The Killing Grounds | East Cleveland - A Serial Killer Breeding Ground 

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Whatever one on here is saying is good advice. However what they're forgetting is to be a good detective you have to have good instincts. I was an investigator for 6 years, and I'mma tell you I've seen a lot of people who have college education not able to use common sense. Pay attention to details and if something doesn't sound right, always question it. Learn how to read people by their behavior and mannerisms. Have a general knowledge of your demographics and areas of investigation. Study cultures, backgrounds, and psychological profiles. Read up on the FBI's Criminal Behavior Unit in Quantico. I do wonder why all of that would be prevalent to an authentic investigator. Is prevalent because you don't want to be that one guy who causes an innocent person to get incarcerated. Bell very leery of witness testimony. People don't pay attention and they tend to jump to conclusions a lot!

If you are indeed the age you say and you are indeed interested in being a homicide detective you need to be aware of a few things. First and foremost, you will be traumatized and damaged by the things you will see and experience. This will prematurely age you physically. It will also put a tremendous amount of strain on you emotionally and mentally. You should talk to a psychologist who works with law enforcement so you can get some of the stories they hear. The next I would say is if you aren’t already street smart by the age of 14 then you might not have what it takes. In order for anyone in law enforcement to be an investigator they have to be able to think how a criminal would. This can cause damage to your mental health for a multitude of reasons. Also, you will be a professional liar, all cops are allowed to lie in order to extract information. The only problem with this is that you will begin to lie all the time. It happens to everyone. Only a psychopath or sociopath can be a police officer without taking emotional and mental damage from the trauma. EDIT: I worked as a police officer until I became a father.

I kept thinking the same thing. At one point, these homes were someone's dream!

Wouldn't believe it was a sub if someone didnt tell me

Must have been beautiful in the 1950s

I think about that alllll the time . Like it was so beautiful at one point in time , in a way it’s still beautiful

@@apancher until it was all stolen by anti Americans like Bidern

Brave hearted

Better get strapped in these streets🤦🏾‍♂️

Wow yes u are brave I lived all over Cleveland I lived west side off Lorain for awhile

@@abdelmajidahmed1902 wtf is with all these Arabs living of there dad's gas station money thinking there gangster?

@@zd9993 who’s the Arab?

THE POLICE ARE THE BIGGEST MOST VIOLENT EVIL GANG OF HEARTLESS THUGS IN THE ENTIRE WORLD!!! DON'T BE BRAINWASHED!!! PS: I currently live in North Olmsted west side of Cleveland ❤

Unfortunately guns and drugs being brought into these downtown areas completely destroyed them.

Drugs, I hate drugs and drug addicts, people have no morals and just don't care.

This is 100% true

My family moved to a suburb of cle because it was one of the safest and best school systems. 2 decades later and it's one of the worst in the state.

Not to mention St. Louis. Down from a population of 856,796 in 1950 to 308,826 in 2017. Percentage-wise, that's just as bad as Detroit.

That's the first rule, right? Stay strapped or get clapped.

It’s really sad I just moved here and found out my downstairs neighbor is a tier 3 sex offender. Need to get something soon

@@paulblart9230 Yikes, I'm sorry to read that! I'm down in the southwestern part of the state, but I've been really active in the Ohio medical marijuana community for the last few months, and I've made some friends that live around there.

I'm in Cleveland & don't go anywhere without my Glock.

lol no its not that bad. as long you aren't in a gang beef or hang out with serial killers the majority of you do not need a gun. quit acting tough on the internet

I mean you aren’t going to get murdered or robbed there it’s a ghost city. I live there and it’s dead at night, you here gun shots of people shooting up in the air because their bored, but it’s pretty much dead as a bat.

RIP IT DOWN PEOPLE OF TASTE & ARCHITECTURE LOVE BROWNSTONE when i see these places in NY i was shock Those who love them move in its gentrification Really,its man who love the city an willin to fix it up,not aliens I am speakin as canadien in the most expensive place in Vancouver 10-30 million PEOPLE need to clean up own place The world was never meant to be equal it never will

The elderly are targets.

why dont they get tore down?

@@kayamaghan788 Your trippin hard I grew up in E.C 55 and that shii awful most of my cousins dead or in jail u must live in some suburb or sum

Exactly,..keep up the good work,carry and train

Me either one stays in my car on my person I have rifles in my closet

Repent and be baptized every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ and then you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

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Respect, rather get caught with it than without it💯

If you live there it’s a little different. This kid is obviously not living there so yeah that’s risky.

Thank you for your service!

You need to talk to the elders of your family. My dad was from Cleveland. I still have family in Shaker Heights, Euclid Ave, Collingwood, Cleveland Heights. Serial killers go all the way back to the '30s with the Torso Killer aka Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run "The Flats." Now I'm 45 years old and grew up mostly in Ga, joined the Marines in '97 myself. So idk how you haven't heard about ANY of these killings. Some of those old stories that old people tell are worth listening to.

Woooowwwww

@Rocket Pliance That's not racism, that's stereotyping. "Racism" doesn't fit in this context.

RTA employees were aware of serials stalking in EC. Didn't give a damn.

Serial killers of any race are extremely rare, especially with the advancements in forensic. And the idea "Justice for black women" has been co-opted to justify the prison industrial complex.

@@rayzebbs6614 Well I'm sure it's rare, not rare enough. And solving crimes using forensics isn't as easy as they make it look in TV.

They moved,and took their jobs with them and so the blacks that moved here with no good jobs sunk into poverty and alot of those huge abandoned buildings are from the factories from when it was a white city.

Imagine them being terrified by their own Serial killer on the loose that was more brutal than Anything you've seen in this video. BTW he was never identified or captured. The Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run.

imagine them seeing those homes turned into apartments and becoming the Hood......🤔

Yes, shame on Cleveland for not demolishing those horrible places. And, it is a slap in the face to the victims and the surrounding community. They are a blight and must be removed or the danger will continue. I feel sorry for those that live there and have to see that everyday.

Many of those homes could be considered Mansions - The ones that aren't totally destroyed should be renovated like they used to be! Or allow families to have a house for Free on the condition that it is repaired & painted! - Soo Sad that such a Beautiful City has gone to Hell in less than 70 yrs

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Never fear Black Lives Matter errrrrr ARNT HERE 🤨

Heck ya, they always do a great job. They are killin' it (no pun intended)!

Drugs and trafficking have ruined Cleveland. I read somewhere that Ohio is becoming the capital of human trafficking in the States.

It looks like a lot of Detroit ☹

East Cleveland was very affluent and gorgeous in the 50's-60's.

@@myadorablefosters A lot like Detroit. I'm from Cleveland.

Did you just call east Cleveland a once thriving community? You obviously dont live here

@@batosi3112 No I do not live in east Cleveland however Ive seen pictures of thriving communities after WWII and from this video it looks like east Cleveland was one of them. Im sorry you have lived in such a terrible place assuming you live in/have lived in Cleveland. My old home town is a mess too.

@@batosi3112 it was up through the 1950’s. My family lived there from the 20’s til the early ‘60’s. They all split due to moving away for jobs, getting married, going to college etc. and they never went back. Now it’s a heartbreaking mess and scary.

Also, if you watch the VICE docu which this video shows a few times, the host of it, he *also* resembles a younger, better looking version of these fellows too!! I swear lol

Demonic possession, what You are seeing is a demon behind their face

We got a solid 10 in EC

@Coco_fit haha hells yeah

Where are "YOU" now ?

City council is not killing people

@@CleanMusicLover229 you must not be aware that there are retired sketchy judges who get allowed to retire on the city council boards. It's not a stretch that they are exacerbating issues and allowing the death of their citizens. Did you not watch the video? He even says it "city government was having issues with finances and corruption", it's literally stated. You really need to educate yourself on the goings ons of the US system, because it seems you are unaware enough to say something so trivial. Now, YES you're right that they're are (likely) not apart of the serial killer crew that's plaguing the city but do not think for a SECOND that they don't have blood on their hands from the corruption that took place.

@@CleanMusicLover229 Life is more nuanced than that.

Most likely

I had to stop the video too. Feel so sorry for these poor girls, how scared they had to be and hurt. Feel really creeped out.

documentary....???....more of a montage of news clips......but , to each their own......

...minus the overpowering music... it's a no from me!

The noise is terrible

@@DiamondPearl ya the music is snniy

@Techdeath hippie. Please!!!! "Ya the music is snniy". What on earth is that nonsense your conveying. Is that a special form of English your trying to start as a trend. Please stop, your embarrassing yourself by showing the whole internet your ignorance and your obviously a lack at being able to construct a sentence properly so normal people can understand what your trying to say and not spend ten minutes trying to work out what new language your trying out on the general population !

The punishment should fit the crime

It's different now. You should come visit

Once you go on one of their riverboat gambling trips and have some of their homemade beefy you’ll love

I grew up on a 134th & Argus and left in the mid 90’s and it was bad then. Its sad to hear and see what has become of the place now. In my opinion its done systemically to leave serial killers to continue to kill. Just another form of genocide!

I hear ya and that shitz sad.

Your post was better than the doc!

it was killing going on in EC in the 90' and 00' that was the height there is no rampant killings or crime going on in EC i mean dont get me wrong there is definitely crime but EC is technically a suburb but its only 17,000 people in the city hardly no businesses to speak of the crime rates are higher in others suburbs like mentor,cleve hts.euclid,parma because it's way more people like 35 to 40 thousand more people than EC nobody robs and kills or sell drugs to much in a ghost town sir

@@tonyharden7630 Have u ever looked at the statistics between E.Clev.and Mentor? They go by per capita of every 1,000 people and E.Clev.has 17-18k pop.like u said and still has a higher probably % rate of being a victim of a violent crime then the 50k+ in Mentor. Now the % is close between the 2 but then again one has over double the population.I'll go walk any street any time of the day in Mentor even the so called "ghetto of Mentor the headlands" Ive done it.Your analogy of using Mentor a town that has had 8 murders since 2009.Where as our ghost town with less than half their population had 17-22 last year and at 15 for the year now. E.Cleveland in the top 10 worst cities for crime in Ohio.Mentor is almost 40th.We see enough those white preppy Mentor people out here wit they Cardinal stickers in the windows driving around buying their dope.Now u right most of the time common sense is more people more crime but petty theft and theft holds the biggest % of crime in Mentor.Whats businesses have to do wit the crime out here? I dont understand what that has anything to do wit? Y'all dont have a clue about the $#it going on out here cause they dont put any of the $#it in the news when its coming out of East Cleveland when the last time you heard of a murder coming out of East Cleveland on the news? But they happening.Over the last month in North Collingwood theirs been 9 armed robberies probably more by now been told its the waste 5 n dirty 30's.Over at the courts they jacked 3 buyers for their rides just over the last 2 weeks but you dont u hear bout none of it in the paper, t.v.news anything.Out of sight out of mind dont talk bout it then no one will ever know its happening.Now see an outbreak of armed robberies happen in Mentor or people getting jacked for their rides and see how fast its on the news.You was right about Parma etc.etc but then again its only common sense to know more people more crime thats not difficult to figure out but our ghost town still has a higher probability %rates of becoming a victim of a violent crime per every 1,000 people than a lot of cities in Ohio even with higher populations.Thats a fact sir.

Rebuild? Why?

@@theimmortal4718 clean it up and put hard working people back in a healthy environment so it can thrive again why not attempt to do it just because its a slum now doesn't mean it cant get back to what it once was given the funding and officials that are not corrupt

@@DbDb-pn4fu There have been hundred of thousands of cities that have disappeared from the face of the earth over the millennia. They all disappeared for one reason or another. These midwestern industrial cities were built because river based transportation used to be more important than it is now. They were also built in colder climates before the advent of air conditioning. The production, for the most part, were moved to southern cities in states like South Carolina and georgia 40 years ago. These communities aren't coming back and there's no reason to build up an area that fewer and fewer people want to live. These buildings need to be demolished, but they won't be rebuilt any more than we will begin building model T cars again.

@@DbDb-pn4fu Hard-working people aren't going to move into those areas and risk being victims of violent crime. Even if the areas were built back up, they would be accused of racism. Cries of "gentrification" will drive investment out.

Ain’t nobody wanna rebuild there if the same people who destroyed it will stay there. Then if a big corporation moves in to build it up, people are gonna say it’s gentrification

My cousin stay on Chapman Donnie Anderson

Tell us your story !

Yess

Yup that's Page. It's dead now. But yeah a few years ago that shit was the trenches

Make sure to tell that to any middle class white girl that ends up dead too. Smh. Crime is a choice, yes. But it's getting old victim blaming communities of color while giving shitty policies the go ahead, no police accountability, and no jobs. Gtfoh.

@@queencobra1507 I'm having a hard time understanding how a victim chose to be a criminal.

Oh shut up. Is it a choice to be a victim of crime, too, in your warped little mind?

Don't do drugs.

East Cleveland suffered from "red lining" which led to its demise. spectrumnews1.com/oh/columbus/news/2020/06/17/lasting-impact-of-cleveland-s--redlined--neighborhoods

There will Never be a society of completely equal humans. It just doesn't work that way... everybody can't be rich and famous or it wouldn't mean anything, and there has to be people to mop the floors and take care of the trash. The beauty of America is that your lot in life is largely tied to your ambition, which varies greatly person to person. Unfortunately, parts of the government have convinced a large swath of the population to give them more and more power in exchange for that gov't stealing from everybody else and handing out crumbs in return. "Keep me in power in exchange for project housing, no jobs, and some free food" - modern slavery if you ask me. That's basically the same exchange, they just put the whips away and started pretending to care instead.

First world country with cities that have third world poverty.

And it's all over the USA.

I can't stand people taking advantage of the vulnerable for their own greed or lust, from Portsmouth.

Agreed. From Yorkshire!

@@carolinerowles5951 love your football team

Yes, it's brutal very sad. Hard to believe in the 1960's it was still nice. Drugs in the 80's totally destroyed it.

It is absolutely is extremely scary. I grew up in this area and moved in the 90’s to Canada. I was always spiteful as I always missed everyone but seeing this I know it was the best decision my mother couldve made.

For real...and they be sayin only white guys are serial killers...lol sheeeeeeeet

How scary ? From 10 being the scariest to one being the least scariest ?

It’s obvious that no one in the neighborhood knew who the serial killers were. No one was protecting or hiding the serial killers.

@@realpilBMF hahahahaha

The cops don't give a shit until they're told to. That's how it was when I lived up there 20 years ago.

You was in Hoochieville

@@trinibagowaynecaribbean1611 it was angry ass mother fucker ville to me. Everybody stomps around staring hard, everybody honks their horn for no apparent reason, people just randomly get mad in traffic and start blowing red lights and cutting people off. Nobody would sell my white ass weed either. Met some nice people too though. I love all the people who work at that gas station right by the train bridge, gas USA or some shit. Everybody who went there seemed more friendly.

@@AdaptiveApeHybrid I got a few lil homies over there. I'm from the other end of East Cleveland on Noble.

@@trinibagowaynecaribbean1611 I moved to Cleveland for a couple years with my girlfriend. The first place was between Superior and Euclid on Delmont, then we were able to get a nicer place on E 118. I don't know where Nobel is. We stayed less than 3 years, had to move during COVID because we couldn't get hours. Tough city imo. I'm not sheltered or anything; I've lived in very bad parts of Rochester and Reading PA. Cleveland is way bigger and busier than both though and the whole thing just sprawls on and on. I really didn't like it, no offense . I do like the state though. In nature, it can be very beautiful. I've had great times driving out to parks and nature reserves and just fucking around out there.

@Mario Calabrese OH I understand. I'm about a 7 minute drive from Superior and Euclid.

Jazmine Trotter?

Jasmine Trotter

That must call you gorgeous

Gardens

Yes, the one he was living in when he killed those women, not the one he grew up in in East Cleveland

I wouldn’t say demonic city. I would say demonic people.

@@88Worthy I wouldn’t say demonic people, I would say demonic people in local & federal government.

@@88Worthy nailed it

What brought you to Cleveland? Where are you from?

@@kiaj.d.5855 idk not really sure lol. Im from AZ. The weather is really nice here. I enjoy the cold. I hated the weather in AZ. Way 2 hot. Plus people are really nice here and I love the vibe of the city. Are you from CLE?

@@tylergullion9787 oh wow. Yes I'm from Cleveland. I don't there anymore though. I don't miss the cold at all.

@@kiaj.d.5855 everyone here hates the cold but i love it. This city is amazing though. The people are awesome, food is great. What more could u ask for? Lol plus the summers are not bad and changing of seasons is GORGEOUS

@@tylergullion9787 where do you live exactly? Where you live in the city determines your experience. In the late 80s and yearly 90s I lived in East Cleveland. Then we moved to the Milverton area between Van Aken and Kinsman. lived in Willowick, Mayfield and Shaker as an adult. I moved in 2013.

An absence of jobs to fund taxes to fund police.

Absence of Fathers

Absence of everything.

Lovely words Kathy just like your name

@@shaundavenport621 thank you ms Davenport could we be related

@@kathydavenport4422 haha possibly imB ritish with Welsh origins.All the best to u you Kathy. 1😁👍👍👍

This is what we get for not picking our own crops when the country was founded

They still sometimes still harm in prison but also get harmed while locked up

Any idea why?

@@taylorj6177 GREED.

It really is. You've described this to a T. I just came back from Cleveland. And I swear I truly agree with your words..I've said the same thing.."Cleveland is wicked and dark". The streets are dark, lack of lighting.. I can see why it's so many kids behind kidnapped there's hardly any light on the streets. And also the weather plays apart on ppls behavior. It being so cloudy and depressing I can how that can play on ppls minds. It's different. I come from the Cincinnati area. And Cincinnati is a ignorance town..but Cleveland is another a whole another level..it's one of the most ugliest, slumiest, run down cities I've been to. And I get around

It's just creepy! I loved going to Tower City and the Jake, but beyond that, NOPE!!! There were times I had to go to the BSA headquarters near Tri-C's main campus, and that freaked me out! Just keep me as close to 77 as possible so when shit goes down, I can gtfo!!!