Brother i have to tell you as a primarily high gain junkie / metal head 🤘 that i truly enjoy watching you and listening to your surf riffs . You have one of the best personalities on RU-vid keep doing what you do.
HOLY MOLY! I knew you wouldn't let us down, Ryan. When this product launched, me and many others we're all wondering the same thing. And of course I was hoping you would review it because I knew that you would deliver. Thank you
Best demo of this I've come across so far. Great job. The way your face lights up every time the reverb hits. I love it. Gotta have more 'verb 😅. Thanks for the great demo man. This is making me want one for sure.
Sounds great on my monitors. I watched Ola's video and he used a single mic on the cab some distance away to capture both woofer and tweeter. Like you said, if you want modern metal tones, check the channels that do that on the regular. You do high gain too, but in your own flavor. Your videos are always a breath of fresh air and humor dude, so even a metal guy to the core watches and enjoys. I recently picked up a UA Del-Verb and I need to check your back catalog to see if you found some drippy reverb sounds in the UA reverb unit. I never need a reverb sound like that but it's such a fun sound to play with
Yup sure does. I have an Axe FX3 and a Quad Cortex--they suck for drippy spring stuff (the spring reverbs are meh). Impressed with this review--it seems quite a pragmatic/walk up and use tool.
This is by far the coolest review. All of these guys just pooping on this unit and not making cool sounds like this guy are missing out. You have me SO hyped to get mine. I can't wait to get weird with it haha
@@60CycleHumcastI’m so hyped man. I haven’t really considering playing surf music, but I really dig some of the grooves you are laying down in this video. Any band recommendations to checkout? All I know of is The Beach Boys 😂
First time viewer, and I subscribed to the channel. I’ve watched a ton of Tone Master Pro reviews, and yours was the most thorough and informative yet. Your silliness was fun and your willingness to try settings and signal paths that frankly aren’t particularly useful in real world situations gave a lot of insight into what the unit can do. I really enjoyed the video, and I think you clearly conveyed a vision of where this unit can go over time. Nice job, and thank you.
You should watch John Cordys. He is modeler RU-vidr and as such, fender was smart enough not to send him one. He thought it with his own money and has three in depth videos already.
@@RJasonKlein no problem. None of the people fender sent this to are big modeler users, which is good because if those people like them close enough (whether they are paid or not) it makes fender look great. But if you’re considering a modeler, you def want input from someone who actually models frequently. Before you spend 1700 bucks ya know. Cause if I had the 1700 I’m def buying an FM9 by fractal 😂
@@adamricard9410i own both the fm9 and the fender TMP and im a high gain junkie and in all honesty I'm very impressed with the TMP this thing just Rocks . Im keeping both of course but this fender isn't going anywhere 😁
I think this video shows waiting and not trying to release as soon as the embargo lifts pays dividends when it comes to quality. Best one I have watched so far.
I'm so glad to see we're starting to see convolution reverb in more and more units. It completely ends the search for digital replacements for spring reverb units, and makes all the reverbs vastly better than the algorithmic attempts.
When I saw one of the other Guitubers demo the Two Princes preset I was like, "Uh oh, I know who's gonna love this!" hahahah Great demo, my friend. Made me want one even more!
right? one of the recent TC amp pedals has a drippy convolution reverb but you have to have the amp side on to use it. I just want a stand alone convolution reverb pedal with 3-4 knobs.
@@60CycleHumcast A tone master solid state spring reverb unit…those solid state spring reverb units fender had in the 80s or 90s are pretty cool if you have never checked one out not a bad idea to have that tc pedal. For the reverb and if your amp goes out during a show
This is the only video I'm watching on this damn thing. The RU-vid bombardment has been so thorough I haven't wanted to watch any of the others. But DRIP
Love this, and love your channel. I'm classically a metalhead, but my favorite genre happens to be surf. Your videos are awesome, and you as a person are awesome. Thanks so much for your videos! I look forward to them ☺️
Great video Ryan!! I just love to watch you have so much fun and listen to your jams. You're straight up in your reviews which is appreciated when I'm researching new gear. Tnx dude!!!
I’m not into digital effects, but wow that sounded really good. Maybe I’m so chained to my amps and analog pedals? This is a huge eye opening for me. Pretty cool stuff!!! Thanks for such a great show.
We're in a time now that the digital tech is finally there in my opinion. Im 56 and started out with the DigiTech 21 legend pro rack mount effect processor and these new higher end modelers are light years ahead of those DigiTechs. I recently just bought the fender TMP and i must say its just wow 😮
Hi there Surfy Bear!! (Ryan). From one surf nut to another, thanks for the Tone Master reverb tour! Look's like this rig rocks with all the great tones/sounds and options. Watching your vid, i could tell that you were falling in love with it pre vid and show vid as well. Dam you, as you have managed to seduce me as well! Could be it's time to go through my pedal collection, and sell on pedals that will be now more or less obsolete to help finance the purchase of the Tone Master. In any case, thanks for another great video. Greg from Australia. (born 1956, surf music collector)
The Fender amps and verbs sound awesome. I just wish they could get the fuzz that good too, because the fuzz comparison was clearly better with the real pedal.
I haven’t found a digital fuzz that nails it yet. I think a big part of the allure of fuzz is unpredictability and a “broken” sound. How do you model that with code?
@@60CycleHumcast It can definitely be modeled, but it might take AI/machine learning algorithms to refine it enough that we can’t hear the difference anymore. Even if it has a chaotic component of randomness, that too can be modeled. Random “seeds” are used often in coding and there are a number of different ways to generate them on-demand.
Just finished the whole video and man, you really said the reasons why I bought it. I have always gigged a 65' DRRI. I bought it because it does one thing really well - drippy cleans. I had this massive pedal board that served me well as a pit musician (Rock of Ages and Little Shop of Horrors). It served me well on country shows and a rock band I was in; however, it is heavy, loud, and a lot to carry around. One of my friends sold me an AxeFx3 and it has been an endless time sink trying to understanding modeling. As good as the AxeFx3 is for high gain, it just wasn't doing the Fender thing for me - which is what I love from an amplifier. Call me a fan boi, but I really love the Fender tone - especially when playing a Gibson guitars through them. This just looked cool and familiar, is by the company who makes my favorite amps, AND looks well designed. I've gotten a lot of laughs from my friends in the industry touring the FM9 / QuadCortex / helix, but I just really believe Fender can really have a home run here. If they can continue to make updates to an already kickass product, there's no reason why this can't solve 99% of our needs. The number one complain I've heard about this unit is the price, but I believe for what we're getting, it's reasonable. At Day 1, the biggest issues reported is price. Compare that to a 1st generation product like the QuadCortex, which still doesn't have plugin support, has a known ground issue, AND has a cheaply made power supply unit. I really think Fender stole the best of all designs and put them in an easy to use platform to promote creativity. I'd much rather get weird on some pedals than worry about the ins and outs of my amp (AxeFx3 let me change EVERY parameter of an amp - which is cool in a given context, but I just want to make sounds and fun songs). Bravo man! I'm building out my channel and am going to feature how I use this and where I use it once I get it and learn it. Thanks for the awesome review!
A lot of amp modelers treat clean tones as something boring and flat. Fender really captured the clean personality of their amps with this. Also I didn’t mention it but I love that there’s no external power brick. Just iec straight in. I hate packing one irreplaceable brick around with me.
@@60CycleHumcastDude, you have me so hyped haha. My tonal philosophy is that if it doesn't sound good clean, it's going to be hard to sound good with gain. Do they have a lot of distortion pedals? I've used the Wampler Ratsbane going into an Exotic EP boost hitting channel 2. It's the best distortion I've heard . That Exotic Pedal with DRRI's is heavenly, I hope to replicate it. I heard there's a social aspect to the ecosystem. Is that setup with the latest firmware update or is that a future feature?
Thought you might have been cancelled by Fender for the box reveal earlier in the week. The only demo of this contrabulous fabtraption that anyone needs to watch. I would only consider purchasing this if Two Princetons was a preset, and it played the chip-tune version every time it was loaded, with no option to switch that off.
If you consider everything you're getting at that price, it is worth it. But for most of us with tons of pedals, an amp or two, and a few guitars. Probably not for us.
Why not? I don’t mean to sound standoffish but genuinely curious. Just a few pieces of quality gear easily hits and surpasses 1700 bucks, and this has well, nearly every piece of good gear all in one neat package
Out of all the reviews I've seen for this product, you've seemed to have the most fun with this unit while all the other channels seem more judgemental.
It sounds great in your hands, certainly better than in a few other clips I've watched, but then I just like the way you play. :D This certainly has some scope, but I kind of feel like their launch amp list is a little odd - I'm sure if they'd followed what I'd want, they'd be getting stick from other people - but for their calls to "do Fender amps better than anyone", their list is weird - There's a lot of "'65" in here but very little before, and not much after. There isn't a single brown panel amp on here, right? Nor is there a tweed twin, tweed champ, or a woodie amp - and there's no silver panel, but it does have the Bassbreaker and Blues Junior - just in case you really need to spend $1800 to simulate a $400 amp. Someone else in the comments said "I'll check back in 3 years", and I kind of think that's the best approach. I saw this in your use as well as elsewhere, the touchscreen isn't brilliantly reliable. The amp list is pretty miserable, unless you REALLY only care about 1965 Combos on the Fender front, and we all know that Fender's track record in supporting digital technology is pretty abysmal. The first two can be fixed in time by the third, so we're in the weird irony where a lot of people are going to wait to see how the longevity turns out, but waiting to see how the longevity will turn out will kill the product. Fender could fend that off by saying upfront "We will support this for x years", but unless I've missed it they haven't said such. Which for comparable money to a Kemper, is a bit rough.
Not sure if I have posted this before (apologies if I have), but the Mission SP1-TMP (co branded and custom paint) unlocks things like volume control, wah and a lot of cool creativity/control. Fender also made it reeeeally easy to set up the expression and the toe switch. Control up to 5 parameters at once and use the toe switch to turn off one or all effects. Be great to see a video covering this :-)
Oh wow, this was pretty good! But I'm still happy with the drip in my line 6 pod go, and these fender units are too expensive for me and I won't be able to afford one at all. Edit: OMG the singing part I'm dying lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooo XDDDDDDDDDDD my life was definitely enriched, I'm still laughing XD
I watch these modelers demos, and then I switch to a video where a skilled guy is playing a real Fender amp, like that frenchman Verdier or Toullag, and the difference is so profound, I honestly can't comprehend how some people dare compare these things.
Curious about running this into a Roland JC-40 or maybe even a 120 for output. No really need to I guess other than that was the direction I was heading until I found out about the TMP yesterday. I don’t have any gear other than guitars on order. Instead of using the Fender cab, I’d rather run it into the JC-40 as they’re close to the same price. That way I’d still have a clean amp to play by itself and maybe later buy the TMP. Any reason why it wouldn’t work other than duplication and other ways to get sound out from the TMP? I see that the TMP case the JC amp as part of the list but haven’t seen a video yet where chorus is used. Thanks.
How does the ToneMaster match up against Helix LT for sound and features. I can still return mine for a ToneMaster Pro. I might miss the tap and adjust for settings in Helix it is much faster than using a touchscreen but that seems to be the only negative. Sounds a lot better than helix effects I have to admit it.
I dunno. I’m going close, but no cigar. If you’re going for a trad surf sound, do a tank and a big old Fender tube amp. This might have application for bands doing a contemporary take on surf. Part of the appeal is having that back line of vintage piggybacks.
I agree in a purist sense as a surf guitarist/fan but it sounds just close enough that the gremmies in the audience (as long as they aren’t also surf purists) probably wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.
Sure the purists will drop $$$$$ on vintage dual showmen but we should celebrate the fact that fender and other brands are making modern options available. The surf reverb sound is becoming more and more accessible to a wide variety of players and I think that’s a good thing.
@@kurtcobainenstein3831 Look at it this way: Who do you want to see, the rockabilly band with the standup bass, or the rockabilly band with an electric bass? That said, I know this thing is useful beyond the surf world or, for that matter, any sort of roots music. Still, at $1700….
Hey man, can you make a comparison shootout with another drip reverbs compared with the Fender Tone Master Pro one? I have a surf band and very interested in this new Fender algorithm. Is it a real all in one solution for surfers?
I think the loudness comes from the eq being more wide open, digital fuzz always sounds more narrow to me. The levels were very similar as far as my audio meter said while editing.
Ryan, I don't really care and this product at this point, becuase it is too expensive for me to jump on it too early in the life. I'll wait and see how the support goes and try to test one. I love though that you're doing a fun demo with your thing going and that made me want to watch!
@@60CycleHumcast well I'm intrigued for sure, after seeing all your video. The preset with all the momentary switches has me interested, you're video really made turn a corner on it. I'm going to watch this product for a good while and see what happens. Thanks Ryan!
