I am 90% sure Marx being playable in Star Allies is just a case of "villain that wants power realizes there's a bigger fish about to show up and teams up with the hero for pragmatic reasons" rather than a genuine change of heart.
Actually, that's the true reason why he did that. In the japanese version of the game, Marx mentions in his flavor text in the main line of the game how he genuinely felt scared when he sensed Void and the Jambastion cult. So he returned to Kirby, told him what was happening, and indeed teamed up with him to save his butt. Later on, in the Guest Star mode, Marx starts to realize thanks to his adventure with Kirby that he genuinely missed having a connection with someone, and his Guest Star mode story goes around the concept of Marx wanting to rule the galaxy with the new power he learned: friendship. So yeah, Marx only has a somewhat change of heart (perhaps, as I think that Guest Star Mode isn't canon as far as I know) until that very moment. The whole deal of "he was hungry" comes thanks to the US censorship and weird translation choices, which decided to make the game a little lighter. You know, as they also erased the "please die for our god" bit of the Hyness ramble.
Regarding Galacta Knight, he is definitely canon, though the fights with him are not. It's more or less confirmed that he was one of the heroes that originally sealed away Void Termina. Canonically, he is still sealed away. Meanwhile, Morpho Knight seems to be the equivalent of the Grim Reaper, consuming exceptionally powerful souls to temporarily gain or regain a proper body. While it's fun to assume every orange and red butterfly seen in most Kirby openings is Morpho Knight, there are also plenty of cutscenes with more than one (though that doesn't disprove that they may all be Morpho Knights in waiting). A common theory that I've seen is that Morpho Knight intends to consume Kirby but is unable to as Kirby's power is even greater than his own. From the description of the Morpho Knight Sword ability, those who wield his sword can claim his power and take his form. "For Kirby, handling this power is... a breeze." This suggests that Kirby is indeed more powerful than Morpho Knight and can even wield his power without becoming Morpho Knight. There's also the nature of Chaos Elfilis and how it, too, wields Morpho Knight's power after Kirby defeated Morpho Knight who had just consumed Soul Forgo (notably, Soul Forgo requires Morpho Knight to be incapacitated by an outside force to control his power and complete itself). To me, this suggests that there's something else to the whole Dark Matter, Heart Matter, Soul Matter, and Dream Matter thing that I've seen thrown around and that would be Chaos or Chaos Matter, which Morpho Knight either wields or embodies.
The question is where does meta knight come into play if morpho knight seeks out strong beings does meta knight know that??? As he has a long running theme of wanting to be the strongest
Remember kids, GUEST STAR IS CANNON In all seriousness, guest star is the first time galacta knight was CANNONICALLY unsealed. Every other time you fight galacta knight is just a "what if" scenario.
technicaly speaking aen is who is canon,aen is kind of retcon for galacta knight~ so galacta knight isn't canon perse, it just like broly in db. you have movie broly and canon broly xD
Here's something people tend to miss about Astral birth void, when you defeat it, it smiles and when you get back to the main menu, you unlock a another kirby with a different face, not sure if this is cannon but I'm 99% sure that this kirby is void rejuvenated into a form of kindness
the different face is just a reference to kirby's classic design. If you wanna headcanon it as void reincarnated, go for it, I love the thought of void having a happy ending. However, no solid proof on that being the case yet. Pretty sure it smiles in death because, well, its existence knew nothing but agony, hatred, and negativity. If you lived a life like that, wouldn't an incoming death bring a smile to your face too?
@@Rilobster while yeah that would be the case I don't think void is actually dead. I think they just took a little "hiatus" so to speak. I mean if void constantly reincarnates then I don't think they'd really permanently die. I don't know if that was your point but if it was then sorry
@@akirathewildcard9625 its kinda confusing when they name void (character) and void (concept) the same thing, but i meant void (character). he's obviously not permanently dead because he reincarnates, but the void that we specifically fought is dead. Even if he reincarnates, it won't be the exact same void. it probably wont have any memories of what it experienced fighting kirby either. who knows, maybe in the next game we could see it again. but i doubt that lol
@@Rilobster I think void concept and void character are the same thing actually. I'm not entirely sure but let me explain. I think when void explodes and dissapears it doesn't actually die it just vanishes for a bit and the explosion was just the negative emotions being purged from its being. I think there's really only one void with zero kirby and the giant titan void termina being the reincarnations
@@akirathewildcard9625 i mean the character of void does adhere strictly to the same principles of the void concept so i guess you could see them as one in the same, but i see stuff like zero and kirby as offshoots of the void concept and void termina itself as the closest thing to pure void if that makes any sense
And now, with the latest games, it might turn out that the ancients might be extremely modified humans! Also! There's something called "CHAOS" now!? And apparently Morpho knight is getting more and more relevant, and (in my theory) he might be another form of void termina, but this time filled with nothing but the concept of war and death, rather than any actual emotions.
Please Read. I think it's pretty obvious that not everything in this video is completely correct, and a big thank you goes out to those that are correcting some errors I made in the video. Truth be told I wasn't expecting the video to actually get this many views as it was mainly made as joke for my friends after they said I wouldn't actually explain the lore. I had no clue just how much traction it would get and I won't lie, it's kinda been stressing as I'm not used to this much attention- This was my first lore type video so I do apologize for getting things wrong, just didn't expect this much from it. Minus all of this I still am glad you all found my channel and I hope to be more fluid within my later videos and try to do better research with more correct sources. Besides everything, thank you. I've always wanted one of these videos to appeal to an audience, and I hope it grows from here. You're all amazing. Thank you.
Well, I had in my "do to for fun, not a priority" list to leave a friendly comment correcting things in this video. But since you already note that they are mistakes, I have no idea if it's worth it. I know the way things work is that people WILL stay with misinformation from here regardless of that warning and everything else, and that there is little that can be done about it. So, would you make another video pointing out the things others said were wrong and what do you think about it? If so, I can make that comment as I planned to, if not, well, I guess I have to conclude it's not worth it.
Do not worry Tspro, I as a Kirby fan can understand that it is quite easy to make errors, mostly as it is like the entire history of man kind but rapped neatly in a box
I feel kind of sorry for Void Termina. Imagine being born of nothing but anger, pain and sadness, knowing that only your death can lead you to maybe being reborn in a happier life. You see another incarnation of yourself happy, gentle and peaceful. You fight them just so they can end your torment.
Kirby, Kirby, Kirby! That’s a name you should know! Kirby, Kirby, Kirby! He’s the star of the show! He's more than you think! He's got maximum pink! Kirby, Kirby, Kirby's the one! He comes right back at ya! He comes right back at ya! Give it all that you've got! Take your very best shot! He'll send it right back at ya for sure, yeah! [NME Salesman:] "How can I help you, King Dedede?" [Dedede:] "I need a monster to clobber that there Kirby!” [NME Salesman:] "That's what we do best at NME!" [Escargoon] “You'd better get it with a money back guarantee!!" [Singer] Oh, Kirby, Kirby, Kirby, saving the day! Kirby, Kirby, Kirby, he's here to stay! Don't be fooled by his size! You won't believe your eyes! Kirby! (Kirby!) Kirby! (Kirby!) Kirby! (Kirby!) Kirby, Kirby, Kirby’s the one! Right back at ya! YEAH!!
kirby has some of the most horrifying lore, if not THE most horrifying which is very funny people like samus and snake are actual veterans and yet kirby has faced and defeated things 10x more horrifying than they have better yet, kirby doesnt know any of how absolutely terrifying these things are and how many connections they have with each other, he just knows they're making his friends sad and he doesnt take that lying down edit: and you didnt even get into morpho knight (or galacta, who is canon because morpho is also canon) or any of the forgotten land stuff that hadnt released at the time of this video not to mention the mage sisters horrific backstory and how hyness wasnt always so insane or that adeline is literally the only human left in existence
Where was Adventure? I find it weird that Meta Knight‘s grey character introduction and Dedede‘s change of heart weren’t mentioned, I think it’s quite an important game that shapes the ones after it
For the reason Dedede stole all the food in dreamland, there was a manga that was released around superstar ultra called Pupupu Hero. In the first chapter, he explains that his plan was to build a castle made of food so he could snack anytime he wanted……I don’t care if that was the idea in the original games or not, the fact stands that the idea is funny as hell and is whimsical enough to work
i've always belived that Susie wasbrought back to the main dimension kiirby takes place in by one of Haltmann's attempts to get her back with Stardream. but by the time it finnally worked, he was to far gone to reconize his daughter.
Here's some quick time stamps for you guys! 0:00 intro 1:11 Part one: Dark Matter Trilogy 5:50 Part two: The Lore Thickens 13:40 Part three: The Sanity Dwindles 47:50 The Finale 1:06:44 outro
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My favorite part of Kirby cannon is that Marx is willing to help you not because he sees Void Termina as a threat or that he wants Kirby on his side since Kirby is god, nah he just hungy
I’m pretty sure the lore behind Galacta Knight with him being the ultimate warrior is canon to the main storyline, it’s just his fights with Meta Knight and Kirby that’s are non-canon
My theorie on Susie Susie was thrown into another dimention, i think this is the forgotten land. She helps the residents (who i think we still have to meet) advance technologically. Much time has passed, since we know time moves diffrently in the forgotten land and she grew up faster then normal. Evantually the scientist from the forgotten land find out about elfilis. They capture and use him to be able to warp. That is how susie was able to return to haltman. That also explains what information she got about life on the 'other world' as she calls it. This would explain every plot hole in both games, and maybe the warriors in the mech suit where the ones from the forgotten land???
wait i love this theory that would explain so much if this indeed correct i'd love a side game where we play as susie and it explains what happened after she got accidentally warped tbh
Except that we see Susie in the parallel dimension from return to dreamland, where she finds out about the sphere doomers, and in kirby clash she can use dimensional warps directly from her suit
@@diamondmemer9754 i dont concider kirby clash canon and i dont know where you found info connecting suzie to dreamland (would love if this is true rttdl is my fav game)
@@Spher0 the new remake of kirby's return to dreamland literally confirms that kirby clash is kirby canon And the holographic defense system from planet robobot contains holograms of the sphere doomers, with their pause description stating they were encoutnered by Susie in her journey
I do disagree with some parts of the video, but it's mostly because the games translate the original japanese lore pretty terribly. I'm just really happy to see more people getting into Kirby lore though! This is also just amazingly well edited
@@DarthMolgy yeah Fl seems real disconnect from all the previously established lore I'm not entirely sure how I feel about it, it all feels very underwhelming
Spoilers There’s Morpho Knight’s canon appearance, the Ancients possibly originating from the Forgotten Land and ID-F86’s possible connection to both the Another Dimension portals and Void.
@@ghengiroo4143 yeah that's what I was thinking too! Spoilers: I'm pretty sure it mentioned somewhere that whoever used to live in that world learned how to create portals by studying ID-F86. I think it's a safe bet to say that this world is tied to the ancients somehow, but it's still not 100% confirmed.
The way you emphasized Star Allies' connections to the previous games was brilliant! It really shows how it was a tribute to the series as a whole. Can't believe this little pink puff ball is on par with gods
Doubt you’ll see this, but the friends in Kirby Star Allies have different pause screen descriptions for Guest Star ????: Star Allies Go! mode than the regular modes. You just have to hop on top of them and pause, or have a second player join and pause for them.
My favorite bit of pause screen lore is that Sectonia had fed off countless hosts over a thousand years. Meaning that all characters pre-Amazing Mirror... Are over 1,000 years old. Even the hamster.
@@PicelBoi Nah, I don't think so. I feel like Kirby, by his species' standards, is still a little baby, and if we're going by game and anime canon combined, one of Kirby's best friends being latched onto by a parasite would be cause for its total destruction.
So does that mean that Kirby is the Kratos of the Kirby universe? I mean if Kirby was void termina at some point that means Kirby is a god of some sort
Honestly I take issue with Void being evidence for Kirby and Dark Matter being the same. In a snippet of infamously lost in translation lore, we have the following. "There exists as many “Nil” flying about freely as there are different skies. Seeing him shine like a star, people of ancient times left behind a book of mysteries. Dream, Dark, Soul, Heart… All of chaos and potential gathered in these types of matter, the creator of the origin is born. The being that will be left behind in a new book, is it a destroyer god, or a star ally?" This to me tell us this. Void is the source of dark matter, of everything in the Kirby-verse. He was essentially its big bang, and when this happened, many pieces of the original void broke off along with the four matters, being blank canvases to be imprinted on by whatever they come across in their journeys across the cosmos. In the case of the Void we fight, this was one heavily corrupted by dark matter, and after Hyness threw himself into it, pretty much imprinted his will on it additionally for Void to become a god of destruction. Once they are ejected out, Void sees Kirby, and feels something for him, and starts mimicking, now having more room to be imprinted on with Hyness gone. So it's less to me that Kirby is Dark Matter and more Dark Matter came from Void and Kirby is one of many Voids that was imprinted on with friendship and shit. Potentially the same for Meta and Galacta, but tbh they as a whole make Void even more of a headache.
I like to think that Void is basically the Christian God: it's nothing, but everything at the same time. This would explain stuff like Meta and Galacta Knight.
i love all of the insanity this video offers and all of the editing, it makes the video fun to watch and doesn’t feel like i’m just listening to a lecture against my will
Mario : A plumber who saves a princess Kirby : created by void Termina by a lot of positive emotions and dark matter was created by a bunch of negative emotions dark matter trilogy the ancients A giant star clock that gives you one wish a flipping demon clown a mirror to a different world that was stolen by A spider and giving to his friend and turned her into a wasp or bee and the damage was unrepairable four Kirbys A star rod that gives dreams to the people in dreamland but also keeps nightmare away Void Termina being sealed away by Galactic knight the magic Ancients sailing away galactic knight then getting betrayed by the scientists ancient Stardream a crown that took over somebody made by the ancients which must have had a part of dark matter inside of it gooey is also a part of dark matter but somehow broke away from zeros control zero coming back as zero 2 in Kirby 64 crystal shards planet robot Susie is not remembered by her father after being sent to a different dimension and losing his memory Edit : I can’t deal with this any more kirby lore is just Y E S now ok? Ok
He is the stoner friend that needs his hungry to satiated, if not his full power will come out. And by full power I mean something stupid but not harmful to anyone but himself.
OH SHIET you forgot to mention something that goes along with the whole gooey thing! it was that KIRBY is also, in a sense, a dark matter! because you can't have light without darkness, and you can't have darkness without light (not technically true but it is in terms of Kirby and its lore)! Kirby got touched by the seal of void termina because he (is the main protagonist, yes, but also) because he's the shining beacon of positivity, opposite to dark matter! and they are a spawn of Dark Matters' entrance to the universe, from what I recall, and that's why he is the one to defeat the evil of the worlds! because he is the entire opposite of dark matter! just to let you know! (this comment has been rendered pointless by later commentary, forgive me)
Here's something random for you.. the blue void, who's pause screen states a hope for it to become a friend, looks a bit like the most recent final boss. I wonder if this was intentional..?
@@baimhakani Yes, but the similarities between the two sure make a person think. Perhaps this says something about Fecto Elfilis - and who, maybe WHAT, they are.
if i was super into kirby the whole way through and like 100%ed every single game i know for a fact i wouldve cried hearing the chiptune green greens part of that void song
Is it possible that each member of the dark matter species??? is made of a different negative emotion, like the dark matter swordsman is made of loneliness and zero is made of the hate of everything...
The game: cute and light platformer The lore: God is dead and everything has been tried and failed against the ravages of time, greed and the void. Weep for the end is nigh and is only held back by the spawn of an elder god who only knows hunger and pray in thanks to what gods are left that he wants to befriend all
1:04:54 I'd say void is the starting point, the origin of all that is round and unnecessarily powerful, Dark matter is the opposite of kirby, but yeah nice :)
also, the flame ladies name is pronounced like Flam-Ber-je because of Flambe-ing is her thing, and her eldest is pronounced Zan Partisan, because she's the leader of the group.
Im a big Kirby lore guy and I’m gonna put everything in here I think you got wrong or that I just wanna talk about and yes Kirby lore is overcomplicated……..and I have to deal with it every fricking day of the week •well dark matter and Zero and all that….they kinda ARE bad emotions but they are not MADE of them….but I also think you’re gonna get into that so let’s see •it’s still so weird to me that Dark Meta Knight just says „let me just split you into 4 because why not“ like huh ? You made you’re enemy……well you made 4 of them •Nova can make any ducking wish true and the ancients STILL died of…..that’s just….wow. HOW TF can you fuck up that hard ? •Same thing with the mastercrown…..wtf ancients have a fucking brain (and yes I know kinda….how they killed each other and stuff but still wtf how can you die after making stuff like that) •I have my own theory on why the mastercrown looks so much like dark matter: The Master Crown has probably Copied power from Void because the ancients worshiped him and therefore can be used for good or evil by those who wear it and the emotions of those who wear it and should the wearer become weak only the emotion remains and the crown intervenes, controlled by Emotions (This is supported by looking at the eye in the mouth of Magolor's soul) (Landia is seen controlling the Dark Side of the Crown in the Landia EX bossfight) •nightmare is in the main timeline…he’s in adventure
I’m only 3 minutes in the video and read a few comments. I just want to know all there is about Kirby lore for no reason, it reminds me of adventure time a little (also a story I know little of). A bunch of goofy characters who are actually extremely powerful with deep and dark lore
So if the side games and galacta knight and morpho knight weren't canon before, now that morpho knight IS canon.... what would that mean...... (i'm left to wonder because i'm sort of avoiding spoilers for forgotten land lmao)
I love how Kirby has no Idea about anything that’s going on with the lore, he just sees an evil doer attacking his friends/planet and goes “oh shit, gotta go kill that guy”
I have a small theory about void, after you defeat him, he smiles as he explodes, because you gave him the power of friendship, *the positive energy,* and afterwards, you unlock an old kirby, *how kirby was in the beggining,* so, after you defeat void, he absorbs the positive energy and creates a new kirby, thats why this new kirby is old school kirby, because he is kirby newborn/from the beggining
14:01 *EVERYTIME I SEE THAT DARN BUTTERFLY I GET PTSD CUZ THAT BOSS FIGHT IS INSANE IN ANY GAME* *EXCEPT FOR STAR ALLIES, YOU CAN RUSH HIM IN ANY DIFFICULTY EXCEPT THE LAST ONE WHICH ITS HELL* *FEAR MORPHO KNIGHT HE IS ONE BOSS YOU DO NOT WANT TO SEE ITS LIKE SANS UNDERTALE* *THAT BUTTERFLY HAS BEEN THERE SINCE THE FIRST GAME, IT EVAPORATES GALACTA KNIGHT WHO IS A LITERAL WARRIOR SEALED AWAY CUZ HE IS OP AF AND TURNS INTO A DEATH GOD* *SO THAT'S WHY I HAVE PTSD THANKS KIRBY! I WILL STILL PAT THE PINK BLOB ON THE HEAD ANYWAY FOR ITS STILL A INNOCENT CHILD EVEN IF ITS A PART OF VOID TERMINA*
A theory I've heard is that there is a huge giant God that is essentially just void, however depending on how much positivity or negativity he receives he will create a different form. my theory is that Kirby was created from all of that positivity and then the dark matter was created from all the negativity highness had been making to reseurect void termina
The yin yang this is good but not completely actuate how u said it. Kirby is ying, Zero/Zero2 (the father of ALL DARK MATTER IN EVERY DIMENSION) is yang. Void is the pure balance of both a True Neutral GOD with no sence of right and wrong. And as u said its a child (in mind i mean).