The Knicks lost in the second round after missing most of their starters to injury. Now they enter the offseason with a brand new plan. Most fans want them to get a superstar and this is a look at how they will approach the summer.
Jalen is not just a star. He is a superstar and he deserves all the recognition and respect. 💪 🔥 Finally, after Ewing, NY has a leader they desperately hope and searched for all these years.
@@jbischmann weird analysis, he plays an old man game, if anything other players will be utilizing his change of pace and using their bodies to protect the ball more. My 40 year old uncle was schooling teenagers on the streets of Brooklyn with this stuff.
@francisbaxter4663 Kids are regularly dunking in 7th grade and hyper-developing in advanced camps. Look at how Jamal Murray struggled against Jaden McDaniels and ANT, and Murray is 6'5". Doncic is 6'7". Def no hater of Brunson, he is great, moreso the league is getting taller and longer on a much accelerated rate than 10 years ago. Also lends crecedence to Brunson trying to get that extension now for less money versus waiting.
Jaden McDaniels is the new prototype 3-D, will be 5-10 more of him in 3 years (i.e. Trey Murph) long, lenky, athletic ... making Brunson life alot more difficult getting shots off. Gotta feeling he smart enough to know that, why he trying to take that extension money (for less) now rather than wait.
The injury play is really hard to blame on Thibs this year when the Majority of the injuries were due to either falling, being landed on, or being held by other players.
Study the effects of fatigue in relation to injury on the human body. We start to come apart at the seems under enough pressure and exhaustion. You cannot think that after all these years, Thibs teams injuries are unrelated to the amount of minutes they log, at the level he plays them at.
Thibs is in Extension talks The Knicks injuries were not due to Thibs playing them 40 + minutes Bojan injured by another player ( SIXERS Players) Robinson injured by another player ( SIXERS Player) Randle injured by another player (HEAT player) Brunson injured going for a steal Hart & OG played heavy minutes because Bojan, Robinson & Randle were injured. Can we stop with the Thibs narrative about how he over plays his players and causes injuries. D Rose got hurt because of his play style
@@ashinyblockreal I watch every Knicks game Randle’s injury was cause by the Heat rookie and his reckless attempt at taking a charge. Rose got hurt because of his play style
Mr Leon Rose is a "Shark" 🦈 with great patient and plan. When he sees something good then "Strikes". That how he made the NY Knicks great again. He is playing it safe. Knicks organization and their fans love ❤ Rose's method. 🤔🧠🏀🗽🍎
We’re literally where we were in 2013 except the roster isn’t old. We lost to the pacers in the second round due to injuries just like we did with Melo
As a knicks fan i think mikal bridges would be a perfect fit. All these media talking heads saying we need some max level guy when thats just down right untrue. Demar derozan, mikal bridges, someone who can take some heat off of brunson and can play defense. thats all we need. Plus some health and its an easy chip
@@Just_another_Euro_dude if we add 2 all stars to a second round team is that not an easy chip? youre forgetting how far we got without 4 of our 8 main players. Did you know who alec burks was before these playoffs? doubt it. We had an all star on the bench and multiple rotation guys miss significant time in both the playoffs and regular season. if you dont know ball just say so
Love it when fans say, just give me this, and its an easy chip. If it was so easy, alot of teams would have won chips. If only names garantied chips, again alot of teams would have won, so no just getting this or that player, garanti you nothing.
Honestly if Randle was back in his Nola size, they have their own “center, forward, guard” set up. Jokic, Robinson/hardenstein, gobert. Gordon/porter jr , Randle/ anunoby, KAT/reid. Murray, Edwards, Brunson
This is the problem with blaming Thibs for the injuries. Randle -- Upper body out since Jan Bogey -- 35 years old OG -- Hurt when he came over Robinson -- Always hurt, misses 30-50 games every season Hart playing so damn much was out of necessity, we had nobody left. Nobody on the knicks was in the top 10 in MPG, and Brunson/Randle played 30 more seconds per game than the 25th highest play, Scottie Barnes. Mins became the issue because we got unlucky with Randle and OG. If both those guys and Bogey are playing in no world is Hart playing 48 and 53 mins. Hell, go back to the Bulls teams. Deng averaged 40MP and played like 144-156 games over two seasons. Rose's injuries had far more to do wih his playstyle than anything else. The minutes blame on Thibgs is iffy at best.
You mention firsts this year but really it’s more like three because we pickup Rokas who may be available from Barcelona. He’s not a serious addition but he could be useful in running the offense when Jalen sits. Also a prize trade target is Mikal Bridges and roll out a lineup of Brunson, Bridges, OG, Randle, and iHart. Then a bench lineup of Rokas, Hart, McBride, Mitch, and Bojan.
Bro Thibs is not at fault for injuries. You saying that ain't watching. -Randle fell on shoulder from a hit in air -Brundon fractured hand hitting a knee -Bogi got hurt by having a player land on him -Mitchy got hurt by Embiid pulling on him, then rolling on him later that game. -OG might be only argument and even then, I blame awkward landing. Yall trippin with this Thibs BS.
Extended minutes and fatigue contributes to injury. Some of the scenarios you mentioned might not result in injury if they were a bit fresh or if the muscle tissue weren't compromised.
Again yall not thinking. All those injuries are due to contact.... Randle, JB, mitchy could've played half the mins but ultimately would've still been injured with those instances occurring. I do Physical Therapy btw I'm educated and obviously compounded stress leads to injuries but yall ignoring the nature of these injuries
well josh hart injured his abdominal muscle because of heavy minutes. But this is less of a thibs fault because he don't have a choice, but playing heavy minutes takes a toll on your body. Thats why players in the 80s didnt have a long career because they play on heavy minutes and more physical play.
Yup.Thats my worry.Brunson will be 30 after two more seasons.Realistically we have a 3 maybe 4 year window of prime Brunson.The only case you can argue is Brunson played 4 years of college so he doesn’t have as much NBA mileage as the “ one-n-done” guys do.He just finished his sixth NBA season at 28.Time will only tell.
I’m tired of hearing people blame coach Thibs for all the injuries. He’s one of the best coaches in the league, most of the injuries this year were freak incidents.
@@pstratos7 Yeah, that certainly is what every insufferable talking head who needs to sell a story or narrative would say to sell that story or narrative.
Brunson is barely 6 foot. That's why people were doubting him his whole life. Just stop with the 6 foot 2 idiocy. It was a perfect desired height for a PG during the entire history of the NBA. Like for John Stockton, Tony Parker, and huge number of other legendary PGs. Even Steph is 6 foot 3. So in that range, more or less. Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, Kyrie Irving, all are in that range of a classical point guard, 6 foot 2, 6 foot 3. Brunson AIN'T. He is shorter.
I appreciate the vid, however some critique is in order. First off, it's really Luka that's front and center stage regarding 'who all teams should fear' right now, more so than Ant-Man. Knicks have proved that they will in no way be making ANY hasty moves (like they were so notorious for doing), if said move doesn't fit the long term process that they've clearly demonstrated they're now steadfast and patient enough to see through and through. That said, your later point of 'No moves' is the best and likely position they'll end up in this off-season unless the ideal fit for the right price becomes available. Lastly, OF COURSE Giannis is on their and EVERY team's radar. Duh!
DeRozan would need to take a MASSIVE paycut to make that work, as well as a significantly reduced role as the #3/#4 option behind Brunson, Randle, and debatably OG.
The Knicks have 3 draft picks this year- 24 and 25 in the first round and 38 in the second round. Julius Randle is also back with CAA and the Knicks are a CAA house (Brunson, Hart, Anunoby, Tibbs)
If Knicks trade for a star yea Randle is gonna have to go, but I think someone like bridges or Bruce brown doesn’t require Randle, it requires bojan and picks, which the Knicks would gladly give up
I actually think adding Mikel bridges and having randle for the playoffs with Brunson , og , bridges , randle, hart solid team could be enough of play like this year with those additions
Giannis would be the dream acquisition, but I think they should package those picks and move up in the draft to get someone who is ready to play. Re-sign OG and Hartenstein and run it back, we we're almost unbeatable when everyone was healthy.
You're basically right, but I don't understand why you're saying all that in a bad context? The healthy Knicks are a legit contender on the east, but they also have enough assets to go for a disgruntled star. Just run it back, maybe make a few small changes & we are good. We are one step away from becoming a championship contender, we are not in a hurry. Let's go Knicks!
Thibs playing his players heavy minutes didn’t occur until the Knick were hit with a rash of injuries in late January. The Knicks in late January (past the half way point of the season so not a small sample size) had only Brunson and Randle above 30 mpg and their mpg 35 mpg each which for in their prime star players is pretty in line with the league average. As a reference Jayson Tatum averaged 35 mpg, Giannis, Anthony Edwards, Anthony Davis, Jokic, Kyrie and many others were in that 34-35 mpg range. Brunson and Randle finished the year averaging 35.4 mpg which was tied for 15th highest in the league. The Knicks only had two other players averaging over 30 mpg and that was OG who averaged 34 mpg (not too bad for a starter) and Josh Hart who averaged 33 mpg. And before the injuries Josh Hart was well below 30. The Knicks had no other player in the top 100 in mpg even despite having to shorten rotations due to injury. Thibs in past seasons with the Bulls, Wolves and even his first year with the Knicks over played players often having 5 starters all over 33mpg with 2-3 players being in top 10 mpg. But when he’s had depth on the Knicks these past two seasons he’s used it fairly well. So the narrative of Thibs over playing guys is just not matching reality when the team is actually healthy
Absolutely, I concur but, I feel if the Knicks want to throw Randle into the trade mix, Giannis Antetokounmpo is ideal and perfect. If we can't get Giannis keep Randle.
If there is any team that should 100% run it back next season, it’s the Knicks. This squad is so perfect for each other and with two firsts, they can add some depth at no cost. Re-sign OG, re-sign Hartenstein, go for it again next year.
I'm pretty sure there will be a new "next mj" soon like wemby followed by ant in a single season! Like mj's it's a production set every year. There's a reason we're still talking about "next mj" 20 years later...
35/40 mil a year for Annouby is nuts if he demands that much the Knicks should let him go. Annanouby is an elite 3 and d wing but he is not worth that kind of money. They should pay him 30 mil a year maximum.
I didn't think it made sense at first. But, it might if the is 2nd apron at 182 mil. They pay Brunson 30-35 mil for next couple/few seasons. OG 40mil & another star 50 mil (George?). Hold onto Hart, Divencinzo, Hartenstein. That's a solid six. Then you'd want to find a couple few players who can give some decent minutes in playoffs. Personally, I think that seems like a legit contending team. I'm just not really sure how the cap & taxes work.
As a Knicks Fan let me tell you what's going happen. OG & I Hart will resign back. We're keeping Randle The only person they'll consider bringing in is Mikal Bridges because he fits on both ends otherwise run it back.
The Knicks don’t need a star, they need to bring back OG and Hartenstein while attempting to build the back end of the bench via the draft. Then if Bridges, Ingram or another “All-Star” caliber player becomes available for a good price then pounce but until then the Knicks with their existing core and some additions on the back end of the roster are good enough to contend as is but flexible enough to make a move if needed.
Striking out on DM while Brunson became a star didn’t “work,” as if this were planned. The Knicks were just as surprised as everyone else. They stumbled into it.
The Knicks are loaded if they can stay healthy. They need to see if this group can go all in. Plus if Thibs can be gone next year why not stay pat and try it again.
The Knicks could definitely force a trade for a star, but I don't think it would make them much better. Unless it is Embiid or Giannis, I don't think they should move Randle, he's already a legitimate star.
They don’t need a big player, and i doubt they want it either. They almost made conference finals with half a roster, theres no reason to blow that up and ruin the depth when that was their whole problem this year. Mikal would be great as he is a great 2nd options, solves some small problems, gels well, and could be gotten for Bogdanovic and picks. The real problem with Mikal is if the Nets would even deal him to the Knicks in the first place
Is a sign and trade with the Heat for Butler giving up OG Anounoby a possibility? The Knicks would obviously have to add some draft compensation, and matching alries may be a little struggle depending on how much the Heat wanted to pay OG. The Heat would then get a couple of years to develop their young guys like Jaime, Jovic, whoever they draft this year and the lottery pick next year (pick goes to OKC, but is lottery protected), alongside the more experienced Herro, Bam and OG. They could also trade Rozier and Robinson for a bad contract like Ben Simmons and get some draft picks back. I think it would make a ton of sense for the heat to do this because at the moment they keep finishing in the middle of a non competitive eastern conference, because as good as Jimmy is in the playoffs, his production goes down in the regular season so that puts too much pressure on guys like Bam and Herro to step up, which they are not comfortable in doing. This would allow the Heat to have a couple losing season to develop their young guys and accumulate assets to then trade for a top 5/10 player in the league. For the Knicks it would be an upgrade on OG who they may lose for nothing, and just like Brunson, Jimmy's production in the playoff's goes up. Jimmy managed to reach the finals twice without a co-star, so having Brunson alongside him might just be the right formula for them to win.
Bridges is plenty big for them. Why gut their depth for Giannis, when their whole playstyle is centered around Brunson? Get rid of Randle, grab Bridges, pay OG and Hartenstein, get one more reliable role player to mitigate their injuries and run it back. Brunson will only be getting better. Brunson, Donte, OG, Bridges and Robinson is a monster starting five and you have Hart, Bogdanovic and Hartenstein off the bench? It's probably the best roster in the NBA. Edit: Forgot Mcbride, amazing back up guard.
Idk why people keep saying dame might get out because he is lonely. He's shut these talks down about how he didn't want to be here. He said if he could play with any nba player he would chose giannis. He's lonely because he wants to be with his family and as he said, "I'm a family guy." So if he goes anywhere but Portland he's going to be sad. Gawd people don't understand.
See I don't even know if they need another star. They finished with half their team on IR, make some minutes adjustments, have some confidence, and run it back! That's a damn good team!
you know, it's all about expectations. The Knicks won only one series in both of the past two seasons. There are reasons why they don't go further, and it's not only injuries. The Knicks should be careful not to fall into the same narrative Knicks fans are using to legitimate both runs. Brunson is a really good player, but not Top 10. Randle is very inconsisten and usualy plays worse in the playoffs. I donÄt see this team going to the finals any time soon. Even reaching the CF (something the Knicks have not done) isn't something outstanding, it happens regularly to non-contending teams (Lakers in '23, Hawks in '21, Blazers in '19...Pacers in '24?): all these teams failed to improve because they thought they were already a contender.
@@lildripnation3462 what does a 16-Game run in the regular season in January mean for the playoffs? Exactly, nothing. I'm not saying, don't run it back. But don't focus too much on the injuries bc it's in easy way of ignoring the flaws this team has
@@hualchr6697 Fair enough, but they were missing all of their best players at points during that pacers series. You obviously watch them more than I do so are you 100% sure this team couldn't do it if they were healthy? Randle alone would have made a huge difference.
Also It looks like Indiana is cooked, I agree, but the series isn't over and they haven't had a home game yet and I haven't heard anything about Hali's injury so I'll reserve judgement on them.
