@@nathanieldiaz5254 well she was better as a vigilante. But to be honest, I think she was at her most interesting in season 3. That’s really the only reason I even like season 3 at all.
@@jesusstaccato8448 Daredevil'S budget PALES in comparison to any Arrowverse show. That just goes to say more how much better the Arrowverse shows could've been but will never be.
@@nathanieldiaz5254 My guy clearly daredevil isn't that good when you loose 50% viewers lost 😂😂 🤡 and you say never yet those shows never lost viewers like that and have bigger ratings
And when every other character did wrong they were called out on it. But when Felicity did wrong? No way. Everything she did was ignored or portrayed as justified, she got undeserved praise, every character talked about how great and how supposedly good for Oliver she was and so on. Oliver got called out when he did wrong. So did Diggle, Laurel, Thea, Sara, Roy, Curtis, Rene, Dinah, Nyssa, all of them. But not Arrow's resident Mary Sue Felicity oh no.
@@aaravos4371 they dicked the team over many times and never apologized. Oliver was forced to do it and yet apologized multiple times. Fight bn oli and dig was poorly written . It was neither the time or place for it. The writers just wanted them to fight and said hey let em fight for no reason that is valid at the time
S1- Great Start S2- Mind Blowing S3- Mediocre S4- ..... PULL THE TRIGGER, PULL IT MOTHERF*CKER DO IT DO IT!!! S5- Impossibly Fantastic, the finale is pure gold. S6- First half was eh, you know.... but then ep 17 onwards it was pretty great. S7- Prison Arc beats everything.... the rest is trash S8- A Good End.
16:18 I could not possibly agree more with everything you said. Stephen Amell is stupidly talented, dedicated, and he seems like a great guy in real life. I really hope that he doesn't get type cast in the future. I'd love to see him branch out and move on to more successful projects.
Hi, if you haven't yet, go listen to Stephen Amell's episode on 'Inside of You'. It's a podcast by Michael Rosenbaum, yes the guy that played Smallville Lex Luthor. It's Episode 96, it was recorded not long after Arrow had ended. That episode just goes to show how much of a hardworking, humble, professional, and just all-around astounding guy he is.
It was a Rocky Road with Many Highs and SO MANY Lows, but I'd be lying if I said wasn't sad to see the Show End. Goodbye Arrow, thanks for the Memories.
@@WalkmanWillWalkAllOverYou Yeah after all the downs of BW Anime I felt sad I genuinley felt a little depressed for Ash, how in Sinnoh he got to fourth place but ended barely in 8th. I got better in XY
Kingpin from Daredevil season one, is a great example of how you do a "city infiltrate by secret terrorists" storyline. Ricardo Diaz felt like a worse version of him. However, I don't see how the Diaz twist was predictable. The writers kept the audience guessing without making it obvious. With better pacing and trimming the fat though, his reveal easily could have been the mid season finale, instead of waiting until episode 13.
Fisk was a good gangster villain where there was more to him than just "gangster." But Diaz was a generic gangster character who the writers tried to make seem scarier and more dangerous than he actually was with stupid shit like Black Siren saying she was more frightened of Diaz than Zoom. When a serial killer with superspeed is more of a threat than a guy who wants to take over a whole city just because a guy bullied him when they were kids. The bit when he killed his former bully was forced "He's done something really evil. Be scared of him now please."
I don't know if anyone else remembers this but when they announced Diaz's casting, he was stated as the season's main villain (I think his casting was a bigger deal than Emerson as Cayden). I remember when they had Cayden as the main villain I was confused bc every article I saw listed Diaz as the big bad.
@@mjwilliams5496 I think at first they wanted to reveal that Diaz was the main villain straight away but then they decided to make him a twist villain.
Yeah, I kinda felt like he was portrayed as more of a generic goon with maybe the slightest inkling of strategic planning, someone who would probably be a one and done villain in season 1. I thought he could have used some more buildup along the way before they did a 'haha, t'was me all along!' thing and made him the main bad guy.
7:47 Yeah seriously, I always found laughable how Oliver is being called out for killing people when the majority of the team’s powers are “has guns”. Worst thing is, Oliver never calls their bullshit out, he always puts up with it and says nothing.
@@thomasraines1396 Which sucks when you consider his characterization. I kind of tuned out when he was trying to train the new recruits and they were whining about how hard he was going at them, and then he was brought in a position where he had to apologize for going too hard. I was like “what the fuck do you people think you’re signing up for here?” Especially cringy when you consider one of them was a vet.
@@alexman378 he had to apologize for “going to hard”? Are you fucking serious? Also like barry in that he inevitably has to apologize regardless of if he’s right or not.
@@thomasraines1396 Yeah, seriously, they seek him out, he keeps telling them this isn’t a life for them, eventually they keep pestering him and he starts training them with the same intensity that would be required if they were fighting hardcore criminals on a nightly basis. The whining is never ending and they act as if he was the one who called them in the first place. The guy spent five years in life or death situations to get to this point and then another 4-5 after he got back. In the meantime he was stabbed, burned, shot, tortured, even nearly killed by the leader of an international assassin organization, and these guys were whining because he was mean during the first day of training and their fweeelings got hurt. After he apologized for it, I was like “yeah, fuck all of you”.
@@thomasraines1396 The final straw was when they had a gun control episode. When half your team’s powers are “shoots guns” and you get into shootouts every day, you don’t get to say anything on that subject. It’s kind of like the irony in this video, where Diggle scolds Oliver for leaving a trail of bodies behind him, when he probably has an equal body count by this point.
man, i hope stephen ammel has a carrer after this, he is a good actor, chill guy, and really passionnate (i still remember he did all his stunts by himself for the tmnt out of the shadows movie, and they cut his scenes with only 1 action scene to make place to Turtles and Krang)
There actually is an explanation for that. The Writers were pretty much outspoken that they hated Laurel. And I mean that quite literally. They openly stated that she would NEVER get a canary cry if they have any say in the matter. To the point where the flash writers had to put it in during a crossover. There are also rumors that the sole reason they brought back Sara was to kill off Laurel. And Guggenheim at one point basically fanned the flames by hinting at him not wanting the Black Canary / GA relationship but preferring the OC Felicity one. And of course they kept telling everybody, even after she became a heroine, that black canary would not be a focus. They hated her.
Arrow had more good seasons than bad and Flash so far has had more bad seasons than good. To be honest Flash has not been good since season 3. Don't get what they are doing with that show.
I love how Rene, Curtis, and Dinah get mad at Oliver for keeping secrets when he knew one of them was going to put him in prison. And then when Oliver gave the other team intel, but they ignored it and found their own intel secret.
I mean they didn’t know that :/ besides they felt like “why should Dig and Felicity get no surveillance?” Bc...they didn’t really get it Idk why ppl hate on Season 6 tho, like sure it’s a little slow but some-SOME-of the Netflix shows are too
I think CW writers and producers have been lied to and had secrets kept from them a lot in their lives because they're obsessed with portraying secrets and lies as worse than actual crimes.
I like how Ra' Al Gul was a meh villain compared to Diaz and Prometheus. Its not like Ra' is a fk all villain in the comic but the show has been shown middle finger to comic readers for years
As a comic book fan I was very annoyed and insulted by the treatment of certain character in the arrow verse. It is why I stopped watching. CW does not give a monkey's abouts comics or comic fans
I‘m always annoyed when people use comic accuracy as a measure of quality. This is a different medium with different creative voices, which can’t just do the same things. These shows can’t just copy the comics and they shouldn’t. And as a result the characters will be different, act different and look different. They should be rated as characters on their own and not just as the counterparts of comic book characters. These characters are loose adaptations and that’s exactly what they’re supposed to be.
Well I am sorry but there is a small part of me that loves the source material and it be nice if CW actually showed some fucking respect to the comics and be a little more faithful to them. And even if I did judge the show as its own thing, I think it sucks. Most of the Arrow shows started well but they have slowly gone downhill. The flash especially is just unbearable ever since S2 and Legends is a fucking joke. As comic book shows they are lacklustre and as their own shows, they are still lacklustre. If you like them that is fine but I just do not give a shit. Sorry for the rant but I needed to get that off my chest.
@@jonasstark7148 @Zemo X2 If they want to do a series based off a beloved comic the least they can do is not shit over the core material. I am not advocating they follow strict comic book accuracy but continuously spitting all over the material is nonsense and shall not be rewarded with blind following. If they wanted to do whatever they please then they should have just created a rip and not use the names or story of The green arrow. Create their own show. The very reason 70-80% people started watching the show and how it grew is thanks to the title and familiarity of the name so they do owe comic gans something. At least not kick them in the balls when they are not looking. Some respect would go a long way
@@zemox2534 yes diaz was a hige huge threat who was beat by olie in a half assed fist fight in jail. I ve seen better fights in an average bar fight lol. Of they wanna build someone up fine. At least deliver. You piss over the source material and then You dont deliver what you promise either then yes you should stand there and take it from the viewers
Arrow, I've loved you, hated you, been lukewarm. And in the end, I liked the finale, it was saccharine and reflective and fitting. Oliver did what he set out to do, he saved the city. Goodbye Arrowverse, Let's not do this again.
At the start of the Emiko plotline, It looked like she represented Season 1 Oliver, and that she would be used for juxtaposition to show how far he'd come in a positive direction, given that he was at the end of his arc and the show was wrapping up. That, of course, fell apart, but I briefly thought that there was a point.
It's amazing how, not just Arrow, but the Arrowverse as a whole went downhill with their stories and characters. I mean these shows have become unwatchable.
Was there a writer's strike? I think, a while back, I heard that the later seasons had a different staff from the early seasons and they didn't want to touch on the stuff from the early seasons, like the Flash writers apparently totally dropping the whole "FLASH DISAPPEARS IN 2021" article from the future thing. Somewhere along the way, maybe season 4 of Arrow and 2 of Flash or maybe even during season 3 of Arrow it started, the stories got taken over by a much lower quality writing staff that just tried to play into a status quo and used tropes to manage their stories and progression. Which is why every time a character completes their main development arc they kill them off (and yet try to somehow still give a happy ending in following arcs, like Laurel 2 coming to Earth 1 and bonding with the Earth 1 Officer Lance, Oliver's saving his mom in the universe he got dropped off in thing. Heck, Roy's death was faked and then they just patted him on the back and sent him off). They had a great thing going, but maybe they just got stretched too thin when it expanded to multiple shows or something like that, hard to say
The problem with the later seasons was that they saved all the big stuff for the crossovers but the crossovers really only succeeded on the back of the chemistry of Benoist, Amell, and Gustin
Ending this video genuinely was a really cool way to do it. I feel pretty much the exact same way about Arrow. And while I’d never call it a masterpiece at any point, I also owe it a lot. Oliver Queen will always be a character I hold close to my heart.
I got even more finality out of the show because of this video. I remember about 3 years ago i started to watch your resumé’s on these shows and i loved it. You say they are bad now but i find them to be really good and i hope you won’t delete them as they are always a blast to rewatch to me and i think you are right about a lot of stuff. I’m happy you made this video as for me it was the icing on the cake for the Arrow ending.
Especially The Flash Season 3 one. I remember telling my friend to skip out on S3 and to just watch that video. He thanked me afterwards and we had a blast quoting it😂
Yesss!! I was surprised he didn't like his old videos, he has been objective then as he is now and those videos were the reason I have enjoyed his channel.
@@diegoabche Exactly. This video was an improvement, but I can honestly say that they all belong in the same tier. Normally I don't watch videos this long, but he just has such an amazing sense of humor that I get hooked 🤝
The fact that she was only killed off because the Olicity obsessed showrunners thought she was getting in the way of their precious hacker was horrible. The Felicity and Olicity fangirls actually sent death threats to Katie Cassidy probably because her very existence reminded them that their "nerdy girl gets rich, good looking guy who immediately appears out of nowhere and falls into their arms" embodied by Felicity was just that. A fantasy. Katie Cassidy is prettier than the Olicity fans and they hate her for it.
@@harishang1541 Yeah. And not just to her. They threatened Stephen Amell's wife as well. The Olicity fans can't tell the difference between reality and fiction so instead of knowing that Amell and Emily Rickards are actors playing the characters of Oliver and Felicity the fangirls think they actually are them. Just because the characters were together in the show they thought the actor and actress had to get together in real life.
"When a TV Show is with you THAT LONG, eventually you just start hoping for a good ending." Me when The Walking Dead announced its eleventh and final season. Much like Arrow, it was also a show that became a victim of its own success and after so many of years of this TV franchises highest highs, lowest lows, controversies, shocking moments, countless video games and the spin offs it spawned, I'm looking forward to it. Granted, I still haven't seen Season 10 yet so I gotta catch up on it. And while I am aware of how the spin off shows like Fear The Walking Dead and The Walking Dead: World Beyond carry important information that could play into the final season, maybe even go as far as having all of the characters from all three shows come together in one big crossover season, I just don't have any interest or patience in watching them. Maybe I'll see the Rick Grimes movie if it ever gets made, because come on. It's Rick Grimes. Lastly, I'm also aware how it ended in the comics, but I'm hoping the show ends differently with satisfaction whereas in the comics it just stops and immediately jumps forward in time with an epilogue.
Your review of Crisis is surprisingly positive. As someone who has enjoyed the arrowverse (except for Supergirl & batwoman) I thought Crisis was awful & full of empty fan service, more along the lines of the rise of skywalker than Endgame
8:36 the CW shows should take a page out of Agents of Shield books and split the Season into distinct pods that flow into eachother. (I.E. The first pod tells a closed story that leads into Pod 2 and they tell a closed story that leads into the last pod of the season
@jockadoobee The number of episodes a season should have is either 10 or 13. Less filler that way. Having an episode count in the 20's just means you have to jam pointless shit into the show just so the main plot doesn't end in just a few episodes.
The 23 episode season format panned out well enough for the first two seasons but after that the Arrow writers should've simply taken a page out of Agent of Shield's playbook, going for the pod structure spanning anywhere from 8-12 episodes per villain/problem/... Also, the island exploding should've taken out several of Ollie's allies, such as Wild Dog, Lance, Thea and even Felicity to shake up the status quo and streamline the bloated roster. Mr. Terrific provides competent tech support and Ollie might've gotten closer to Black Canary.
Currently binging the Arrowverse for the first time and just finished Arrow, my ultimate takeaway: anyone can change. This show portrayed countless stories of redemption: Slade, Malcolm, Sara, Anatoly, Earth-2 Laurel, Dinah, Sebastian Blood, Moira, Roy, Nyssa, Maseo, Oliver, and so many more I’m probably forgetting. But, it also showed the other side of the coin, that anyone can also fall to darkness: Ivo, Cayden James, Andy, John Diggle Jr., Ra’s, and Waller. Ultimately, the show’s main message is that we each have a choice in our lives to rise to the light, or fall to the darkness. This is also present in other shows in the Arrowverse (mainly Flash and Supergirl), but Arrow is where it is most relevant. I will always miss Arrow and the journey that it took me on with Stephen Amell’s Oliver Queen.
I literally skipped Crisis on Infinite Earth cause from the start I had a feeling it would be done poorly, and I'm glad I did cause from what I'm hearing and seeing, all my expectations happened and I miss nothing.
The writing of CW shows might be here and there but one thing I'll say is that one thing they always seem to nail is casting, ALWAYS. Whether it's Barry, Cisco and Caitlin or Oliver, Diggle and Felicity the chemistry between these characters always felt so real and never forced. CW also always manages to develop a great emotional attachment between us and the characters you always care about the main characters no matter how flawed they are. The characters are actually real. The character development sometimes moved in circles and did hurt their shows a little but it was still handled well. All in all, this show left an impact on me and I'm sure it did on countless others as well.
It still kinda gets me that Felicity got over killing thousands of people in a single episode. And then it is never mentioned again. What kind of psychopath do you have to be when that storyline is done for you after 45 minutes.
@@harrambou9468 Yes she did. I can pinpoint the episode they last talk about it... They literally have a conversation that gives her absolution dude. I can give you the timestamp. I know you want to protect this show...But I can tell you for a fact: Given the behind the scenes? These writers do not deserve your loyalty.
Buddy you ever watched season 5 i have major problem with felicity progress in season 3 nd 4 but 5,6,7 felt natural even after 2 nd season i wanted a olicity but it never gave it what it was capable of actors had some majorly good chemistry which toned downed to annoying shit mixed with bad story writing
I think Emiko was originally supposed to be a hero, then halfway through they decided to make her a villain. The Emiko we first meet is not the same as the Emiko we say goodbye to.
RU-vid Algorithm: “here’s an hour long final review about the show Arrow!” Me who hasn’t seen an episode of Arrow: “Man you really suck at recommending me shit; yeah sure I’ll watch it.”
Ironically enough it was actually your original videos on Arrow that got me to watch the show in the first place. It had many flaws, but I came to really enjoy it and it affected my life a lot more than I thought it would. Glad you decided to finish the show and make this video. It feels like everything has come full circle with this show for me.
I honestly think that people should give the majority of Arrow a lot more credit. Sure it’s not a perfect or the best written tv show I or many others have ever watched, but it’s a lot more than a “poorly acted and lowly budgeted soap opera.” Some of the actors have real heart in their roles. And when it comes to Arrow as it’s own show, it’s stories are so good that they’ve created some of the newer characters in present day DC comic issues. Sure Felicity could be better in some seasons, and Curtis can be annoying as all hell. But the show is able to communicate some of the better (if lesser known sometimes) characters and their arcs in a well done show. Hell I prefer Oliver in the show to most of the iterations in the comics. In the comics he’s far too close to another Flash much of the time, but in the show he has an added layer of nuance that I feel is complimented very well through some of the more important characters. From John’s lack of emotional control in certain situations, to Felicity’s abundance of emotion in even the mundane, to the Lance family’s views on justice, the show makes for a very good story that I feel stands up to the comics of the same characters (those that are in the comics) Flash and the others can be hit or miss to the point where I haven’t finished any of the others entirely, but Arrow is just a good show. Not the best, but a good one nonetheless
Stephen's performance really made the character. I wish the show didn't get hampered by being stuck in with the other Arrowverse shows, I feel like they did more harm to Arrow than good, but I especially enjoy the early seasons of Arrow, before all of the "every enemy is a martial arts expert that can also shoot a bow and arrow" fatigue hit in. Also before the super powers and melodrama became too prominent. But, overall, a pretty good show. The DCAU Green Arrow is also a really great version of the character. Pretty different, but very well written and performed
@@supersayinwmenify read many actually, been reading DC since I was a kid. That’s why I love Arrow and have mixed feelings on some of the other series. Like, Arrow is great, Legends is pretty great too (except for Savage they ruined him), Flash is good but got stale at points in my opinion, Supergirl was rough but had some good parts or arcs, Batwoman is a hard pass for me cause of how they wrote the characters, and haven’t tried Black Lightning but I’ve heard good things. And I’ve read comics for the main characters of each of the shows except Black Lightning, so I’d say I’m at least a fairly informed opinion
If they insist on the 23 episode structure, then they should just resolve plotlines and start new ones halfway through the season. It’s not like there isn’t enough source material. Remember, when in doubt, steal from Batman.
THE THING IS: *OLICITY FANS WERE NOT ARROW FANS,WERE FLASH FANS WHO JUST WATCH RANDOM EPISODES OF ARROW FOR CONTEXT IN THE CROSSOVERS, & SINCE IN THE TIME OF FLASH OLIVER & FELICITY WERE A TOGETHE THEY THINK THEY 2 WERE A COUPLE IN THE SHOW &START SHIPPING THEM*
I quit this show right at the end of season 5. I just sticked around for crossovers. I wonder what you'd think of agents of shield. Edit I also need to add i watched all of season 8 and loved it.
He should DEFINITELY watch it. Sure, it had a few stumbling blocks here and there, but it was overall solid. That said, Season 4 was where the show REALLY found its footing, and the final season was a perfect way to end the show.
I'm glad I dropped it at the beginning of season 6 the show was great season 1,2,3 was eh 4 was bad and uninteresting I skipped it also the final fight between Green Arrow and Damian was a joke season 5 brought the show back a bit and had an epic finale but that was ruined when season 6 started and we found out that nobody actually died except a character we dont really care about
@@shadowofthenorthstar989 felicity also was so quite in season 5 needs to be stated. But yeah Over all Black Canary is like my top five dc characters. And it pains me how tumbler fans changed the course of the show. The best superhero couple in comic was reduced to a puddle of blood.
I loves this video series, and I'm happy that you stuck with it, it definitely wasn't perfect but overall I still love it and feel the same way as you do about the bad stuff fading away and remembering it as a truly great show Great video :-)
Good job Ross, I still haven't finished the show. Had no desire to do so but you've convinced me to go back and rewatch the final 2 seasons... So thanks for a recap and everything.
great video man and don't be too hard on your old videos either it's kinda an interesting journey since I've felt my own views shift on shows with time. I like hearing what it's personally meant to you and the journey now.
Best quote: "He had one of those personality things." (And, really, bad as season 4 was, the actor made Damien Darhk fun to watch, no matter how tedious the episode.)
Arrow was a unique show in its own way, to the opening monologue in the beginning of every episode(My name is Oliver Queen) to the fights, the action, the acting by Stephen Amell everything is phenomenal.I really enjoyed it at a time when I was struggling the most and starting to watch tv series to escape reality.Yeah its no Daredevil but some of the seasons(1,2,5) are some of the best tv seasons put on screen.Thank you Arrow, U HAVE SAVED ME.
I completely agree with this take on the show. It reached a point where the storytelling was incredibly predictable. Blackstar shows up as a new mysterious character except she’s a tiny blonde like felicity, shes participating in an underground fight club like Oliver, her first scene is literally a transition from Oliver & Felicity having sex to William seeing Mia for the first time and look at that, Oliver, William & Mia all like to drink scotch. Oh my gosh! Who could she possibly be?🙃 This show definitely wasn’t known for being subtle. That said, even with its ups and many, many downs they still managed to make me care about the main characters. I wanted to see how the story played out for Dig, Oliver, Felicity, Quinten, etc and I’m glad I did. For all its flaws Arrow introduced countless characters, launched numerous shows and created an entire universe which is incredibly admirable. Most shows dont make it 100 episodes much less 170. And strangely this silly show about a guy with a bow and arrows inspired a rampant online community, spawned some real and lasting friendships and raised hundreds of thousands for charity.
Really love your videos Ross. I struggle to find critical content on RU-vid that is intelligent and balanced. Your videos are both those things and more. For the record, I loved Season 6 of Arrow and found it surprisingly in-tone. But I still enjoyed hearing your opinions on it regardless. Keep up the amazing work man
This show is the reason I found your channel, and how you got your subscribe from me :D You have inspired me to go back and watch it all again. I had forgotten how much I missed this show.
From S6-8, it was a just a constant mix of sub-par villains and the constant need to rake Oliver over the coals. The rest of the characters, good and bad, could do as they pleased and Oliver is the only one punished or judged by himself or others. CW hero shows have really lost steam the last few years. I came to resent every character for their words, actions, and lack of admitting their mistakes, and that included Diggle. A character I never thought I'd dislike. They were never forced to learn a lesson for their actions either. S6 was the end for me.
Great video, Ross. I share a similar outlook on this series. Will always appreciate Arrow for starting out and attempting to maintain a sense of realism before Superhero media exploded into what it is today. I enjoyed the series even though it isn't the kind of media I would consume today. The OST is brilliant and one of my favorites from a superhero show.
I think it says something that I've watched all of this show and still remembered none of the things you brought up in this video I didn't even remember Oliver had a child
I did not start watching this until 2020 and was very grateful for my remote control. I certainly agree with most if not all of your critique. Absolutely loved the prison arc and found the intrusions of the other story lines, well .. intrusive. Was not crazy about the flash forwards but enjoyed William’s involvement. Steven Amell is such a treat to watch that I tend to skim over the hokey or repetitive or unbelievable bits of Arrow. I have searched the internet trying to find other examples of his acting and have come up with very few. I fear that with Covid and it’s impact on the film and tv industry we may not get much more from him. Thanks for a quite long but nonetheless enjoyable ramble through the final bits of Arrow.
We had Zoe . A child we saw for 2 seasons as a grown up in S7 for a couple of episodes Just to kill her off for no reason in S8. If someone deserved to be a main character in the new season it was her than 'Conner who' , who had no reason to be there. He was Just put there for cheap attempts at romance.
As someone who dropped out of the Arrowverse after season 4, these videos saved me hundreds of hours. And that's not even an exaggeration, surprisingly.
Splendid! It's been super interesting watching your experience with this series so closely match my own. I don't know how you find the patience to make such entertaining long-form videos but it's incredibly impressive. Well done, dude. Question, what mic and input system do you use?
sidenote for if you're reading this, ross, i highly recommend watching at least the first half of season 6 of the flash. the bloodwork story was fantastic.
Even though I fell off of Arrow around season 5 (as well as most superhero shows, that long form cw mandate is an absolute blight) i still have to respect them for managing to bring a conclusion to their first real universe kickstarter series that Im sure amassed a rather large and satisfied fanbase
I will never forget Willam’s line at the start of season 6: *”they were 8th graders”* And one thing that bugs me about these TV shows, or any in general, is that they leave a season on a cliffhanger and pick it up next season with an interesting character plot point. But that interesting character plot point that I would have loved to see fleshed out is turned away and changed before the end of the first episode. The only show I can think that doesn’t do this is Avatar and Scooby-Doo: Mystery Incorporated (but Daphne’s was solved three episodes in, but hey, it’s more than one) Also, I would like to hear your opinion on Legends of Tomorrow (the best Arrowverse show) and Supergirl season 4. Just season 4.
That was a really nice video discussing your final opinions on Arrow...................... now I'll see you in like, 3 years when you give your final thoughts on The Flash
Supernatural is one of my favorite shows. I like that it was only supposed to have 5 seasons but instead went on for 15. The world and menagerie of monsters and lore made up for a lot of the cheesy dialogue and over emphasis on feelings for me. Plus, Charlie. I mean, she was a great reappearing character.
