The Last British Battleship? 

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I think its a national disgrace!

Sadly the British were in no position to preserve anything after the war, as they were broke.

Heh, for what it's worth I too was about to name the very same ship (Warspite) as an obvious candidate for preservation given her acclaimed history! Her scrapping (of which to be fair wasn't exactly conventional in the circumstances) really was/is lamentable. :(

The considered it. But after having won two world wars Britain was broke as a joke, so the decision was made to scrap it :(

@@MarkFeltonProductions Have you seen this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Db6bgu0gs-g.html

Interesting

That is crazy. Let's rename old iron sides while we are at it.

Being from barrow I can confirm this, it is on walney island across the channel from barrow in a place called vickerstown which was built to house the ship builders

You mention the Texas. If it is not dry berthed soon it may sink. The U.S.S. Missouri looks good now but it was relatively recently transferred as a museum ship. I would hate to see it in a 100 years. Eventually it will be realized that these ships need large government maintenance to survive.

I find a shame that the Big E wasent preserved, there would be no better ship to represent the USN in WW2. From defeat to Victory. Through the darkerst days. A floating battlefield.

Sadly, the texas is sinking in harbor. Slowly, but surely. History is dying..

Don't forget BB-64

Atleast North Korea maintains the captured stuff from the war

Warspite lives on in some old car left in a barn somewhere

Well said. Good reminder

I hate this argument, as the long term gain of preservation far outweighs the short term scrap gain. People are just too shortsighted and greedy to see this.

Benters Extremely interesting, I've always wondered what the British people went through after World War II and for how long, is there any book out there that you would recommend reading that I could get a better Insight.?

@@ArenBerberian They aren't greedy, they just want to recover from the war.

Dreadnought def should have been preserved. And at least one aircraft carrier. Madness!

They have preserved HMS Victory at least. A commissioned ship-of-the-line to boot.

hms caroline a c class cruiser that was at jutland is still around shes in Belfast at Harland and wolfs

Dean Fawcett there’s also the Hms trincomalee just down the road from me at Hartlepool, she’s a beautiful ship.

steve08717 coincidentally HMS Belfast is moored up at the embankment by the river Thames as a memorial to older battleships she is a light Cruiser maintained by the Ministry of Defence.

Ya and the Americans had her stripped and turned into a club so what's your point?

At least we saved her.

All the Iowa class are Museums now and so History preserved.

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The Russians didn’t have much juice in occupied Japan. They were peeing up a tree. -Marky

Douglas Lally I’d argue that there were a few British ships that deserved to be saved more then uss enterprise

Unfortunately, the Enterprise was decided to be scrapped just a few years before the movement to turn ships into museum ships. In fact, people could say the Enterprise's scrapping was the spur for people to start pushing for museum ships.

The USS Enterprise, the USS Nevada, USS Pennsylvania...all are examples of ships that should've been saved but were scrapped. I'm glad that we now have a system in place to save such ships.

I was over in America several years ago visiting relations in N Carolina. I managed to get a trip in to see the State Namesake USS N Carolina at Wilmington, and a day later visited the USS Yorktown in Charleston, along with USS Laffey and submarine USS Clamigore. Both were fantastic trips well worth the drives from Raleigh. My boy asked me the same question "why dont they keep the big RN ships as well preserved as these in the UK. Of course I didnt have an answer.

If it is any *small* consolation, the navy did save a porthole from the Big E, and made it part of the nuclear powered CV Enterprise.

Monochromatic Lightsource - Don’t we all from time to time?

In japan it has the same meaning as "The fate of the Empire rests on the outcome of this battle. Let each man do his utmost." and is a symbol of national pride.

The lone Zulu flag IIRC was the signal of the Imperial Japanese Navy until it was broken up after WW2

GET ME OUTTA THIS GODDAMN CONCRETE!!!

Is it wrong?

Well there is HMS Belfast happily sat on the Thames. Granted, she's only a light cruiser, but really quite an attractive ship.

The USA is rich enough to preserve multiple battleships

Martin McClure The MREs are the accurate. -Some random fucker from minnasota

Britain has HMS Victory, Nelson's flagship at Trafalgar and HMS Warrior, the first fully iron hulled warship. But money was too desperate after WW2 to do much saving unfortunately.

I have been inside the U-505 Sub many times over the years. She is inside the Museum of Science and Industry here in Chicago and is well preserved. c1.staticflickr.com/8/7474/15799663217_8a81277cc4_b.jpg

I was on shore duty as a Navy MP in Yokusuka , CFAY Security in 1990 -91. Mikasa Park to the left of the main gate on Yoko Yoko Road . The Ginza ran up the hill from Mikasa Park , Honcho 4 on the left side and Honchos 1through 3 on the right side . Great memories of Yokosuka.

I do try!

Mark Felton Productions - you do it well!

Thanks for sharing

Sarah Claydon yeah mikasa is a pre dreadnought tho

WHY DO YOU WANT TO TELL THE WHOLE INTERNET IN WHAT YOUR FATHER SERVED.

Preserving a nuclear submarine is not impossible , but would need effort to cut down the reactor area and replace it with another section HMS Coureagous and FS Redoutable are still open to visit. For Coureagous , it's just the sister ship of HMS Conqueror.

My understanding is that all of our former nuclear subs are still sat with conqueerer as they're still unsure how to dispose of them due to the reactors etc? A lot of history down there

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Mooooohamsalad The Iowa is in LA, And the USS Midway is in San Diego saw both this summer, and the Theodore Roosevelt was there for resupply

USS North Carolina in Wilmington, USS Yorktown a destroyer and submarine in Charleston SC, USS Alabama in Mobile, USS Intrepid in NewYork

Mooooohamsalad we've got the New Jersey in well... New Jersey, Camden nj

Unlike the US which emerged from WW2 unscathed the UK barely survived the war. In the years after WW2 the British Empire was on the ropes. They had no money. War rationing was still in effect ten years after the war had ended in 1955. Even after rationing was lifted the economy remained sluggish throughout the 60s and 70s going in and out of recession. It wasn't until about 1980 one could say the UK had finally gotten over the post war doldrums. By then all the old Battleships had been sold for scrap. Even the luxury liner RMS Queen Mary was sold to the Americans and turned into a Museum in Long Beach California.

There are lots, not a lot of world war era ones though. A lot are ships of the line or late Victorian sloops. And they're mainly docked in major ports, rather than any port town

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I don't think that the United Kingdom was ever bankrupt during the time when the last of its battleships were scrapped. During that time the National Debt increased enormously. You don't lend money to an organisation which is bankrupt. Given the size of government spending at the time, the money needed to save one battleship would have been a relatively small amount of money. And the money gained from scrapping these ship would hardly have financed much public expenditure.

@@mikeryan3701 Do you have any idea how much the preservation/conservation and maintenance of a "museum ship" costs? I suggest you take a gander across the pond at the state of the American museum ships. They are struggling to keep them afloat and in semi safe condition.

Mike Ryan Britain was on its arse after WW2, we had to pay America a vast sum of money which was only finished about a decade ago, Additionally, fighting 2 world wars in less than 35 years put a huge strain on Britain, Britain was struggling after WW1 and WW2 effectively finished the British empire. The loss of the empire led to Britain being financially broke, look at the British armed forces, in the space of 70 years, Britain went from having the biggest and best navy in the world that could fight two world powers navies by ourselves to a modern day navy that struggles to operate about 15 submarines, 6 type 45 destroyers, about 10 - 15 frigates, 2 assault ships and 1 ex helicopter assault ship sold to Brazil as well as 2 incoming aircraft carriers that will never have enough f35s to operate from them. Additionally, the RAF has no maritime patrol aircraft because the Conservative government scrapped them as they left the factory and while they were being built. The harriers were scrapped, Tornados are getting scrapped next year leaving Britain with Typhoons, a few f35s and hawk trainer aircraft that can be used as light attack/ fighter aircraft. The British army has mothballed nearly half of the Challenger 2 tank fleet because of cuts, the warrior ifv mid life program is under threat of being scrapped. The ajax ifv are under threat as we may produce less of them than intended. The brand new wildcat helicopters might get scrapped as a possible option of saving money and the ah64 apache and c130j Hercules might be scrapped to bring down the defense budget as well as cutting some of the Royal marines units. As much as I would love to walk the decks of Warspite, Renown, Nelson, Rodney, KGV class or R class battleships, vanguard or any of the carriers, we just couldn't do it after WW2. HMS Hermes was a possibility of becoming a museum ship as India offered it back to Britain recently and nothing came of it even though it is historically important as being one of the 2 carriers used in the Falklands war. Last I heard was Hermes would become a museum ship in India.

I've seen the U-505, an advantage of living in Illinois, and I had no idea German subs we're that big.

Mihai Bica That’s pretty untrue, “mate.” I’ve been on the Wisconsin, the North Carolina, the Missouri, the Iowa, the Texas, the Lexington, The Midway, and the Yorktown, and all of those ships are in damn good condition for the most part, especially the Iowa class BB’s because they were retrofitted in the 80’s, to say they are falling apart is a grievous lie. I visited the Norfolk Naval Museum where the Wisconsin is moored, the memorial dedicated to her upkeep is very well funded as was explained to me by one of the guides who was a former captain of the Wisconsin. It costed me about $100 for all three tours that got me through basically the entire ship, and I do t regret spending that at all. Every penny that is made from those tours goes to the upkeep of the ship, and let me tell you, there were probably a couple thousand people in that museum through a 3 hour period, multiply that by the base cost of a tour, which is $35 and that’s more than enough to keep the ship in good repair. That’s how museum ships work in the US bud, they aren’t given money by the government, most are nonprofits that make their own funding, and people here happily fund them trough donations or just visiting. So do research before you make egregious claims.

Sounds great, where is it located at? I want to go to see it.

Must have been cool, eh?

Can't have been to London or Portsmouth or Plymouth then

@@sherrielong6795 haida is a Canadian destroyer that served in ww2 tho it was built in britain it saw a lot of good service and is a naval legend in Canada it is in Hamilton

I didn't know that

PSPaaskyen not a light cruiser but yeah it had quite the history

@@MAAAAAAAAAA123 You got that right.

@@arthurmilmore7685 west germany had the money to save it this was the 70s when the west german economy was doing very well

@@MAAAAAAAAAA123 Yes, ex SMS Goeben (Yavuz Sultan Selim) was scrapped in 1973 after the West German government refused to repurchase it from Turkey. That would have been a good museum ship. You could have bought them for DM 9 million. But the offer was in 1953 and I think Germany had more important things to do during that time. Eight years after the devastating Second World War, there was no interest in buying an old 1909 warship. One would have lynched the politicians to spend so much money. I think that was the case in the UK the same. The post-war era was a new era in all countries, but there was no point in historical affairs, that came later, often too late.

@@nordic5628 The offer to take the ship back was made in 1953 - West German economy took off from 1955 to 1965. Also it would have been hard to explain to the population why the government would spend DM 9 Million+ on something considered useless Militarism just eight years after WW2. Germans back then were done with everything military.

@@arthurmilmore7685 Hopefully, the Germans will get rid of Merkel and restore the Kaiser to the throne.

Nono there making big shit now I'm talking the big one there changing

@@dougie5073 Battleship are primarily Big Gun ships. Today it is Destroyers and Aircraft Carriers. Not the same really. The Japanese T-AKE Class ships (Stores, Ammunition, Fuel) are larger than any WW2 ship including Carriers. US T-AKEs are incredibly massive as well. They can keep fighting ships out to sea for 3 months or resupply a Marine Battalion for months.

HMS Vanguard was, it was built in Clydebank Scotland. commissoned 1946. decomissoned 1960

Exactly. Trying to claim Mikasa as a British battleship is typical of the bullshit British provincialism that defines this historically clueless channel.

@@exexpat11 yes, the advent of the aircraft carrier (and to a degree, the submarine) made the battleship obsolete. The Bismarck was effectively doomed by a torpedo dropped from a biplane. Capital ships such as Hood, Tirpitz etc were massive investments requiring enormous crews and hence became prestigious targets - navies became reluctant to commit them to open battle, preferring to use them for shore bombardment prior to landing an invasion force.

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I'm thinking these will show up in World of Warships. They have the Nueve de Julio.

The current São Paulo didn't exactly have an illustrious history in Brazil, since she was already in such bad shape by the time France sold her to you. Minas Gerais with her four decades of service would've been a much better candidate. But oh well.

Fernando Marques i heard that sao paulo is going to be scrapped

@@RedXlV to be bad that Minas Gerais was scrapped 19 year ago

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Probably insufficient! (Depends how much of your fortune you're willing to invest I suppose!). You'd also have to build the shipyards and the steel rolling mills, armaments factories for all the obsolete tech such as 15" guns etc. However I look forward very much to visiting her. can I be the first guest aboard please? Oh and hurry up, I'm not as young as I once was...

Glad you are enjoying them

Unfortunately, governments tend to look at the immediate payout of scrapping an obsolete ship rather than the long-term payout that might be achieved by preserving it.

what, vanguard was scrapped for 560k

Skreezilla Britain was almost destroyed economically by world war 2 so had to scrap the ships, world war 2 had such a big affect on Britain that Britain hadn’t recovered for decades after

no, they were sold for 560,000. Adjusted to inflation that is £12,250,000

agreed nearly every one would love a real preserved battleship in the UK

The USS Texas is not in much better condition according to current reports.