The Last of the Starks [GOT 8x4] GAME OF THRONES 8x4 [REACTION] First Time Watching! 

that was the worst freaking part!

Yeah it sucked! But of all the deaths to make Dany go from “I want to be different…I want to make the world a better place for the people. To I want everyone innocent to die!”

What had she done wrong at that point? I’ve not watched the final season for a while now but from what I can remember, she’s at dragonstone..?

and remember Dany did burn Varys when he conspired against her.

@@Tsunami7964 Nothing. He's lost his marbles.

@@Tsunami7964what has she done wrong? She has always been a conqueror by force. She has been a complete psychopath ever since Drogos death.

And Daenerys LISTENED to him and they did this siege meet-up thing. EVEN AFTER HER DRAGON WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE SKY!!! She STILL listened to Varys. So what’s the problem now?

She's a horrible leader

...but they haven't forgotten about her!

the writers forgot

@@mjq3555 Forgetting about the Iron Fleet doesn't make it invisible lmao. The fact that she didn't notice them from the sky is a joke...

​​@mjq3555 Um, maybe because they obliterated one of her allies fairly recently?? His fleet already wrecked her on two fronts! Plus, she saw his fleet with her own eyes when she went to KL for the meeting with Cersei.

Ghost and all the wolves were done so dirty by the dragons hogging all the CGI budget.

Exactly. Waging wanton war for her reasons is complete lunacy. Jon fights wars to protect others.

she has this like messiah complex. combine that with her obsession for the throne and it's a recipe for disaster

Dany has also done good things just because they’re what’s right….

we totally missed that!

@@TheOctobersReact They went back and edit it out after netizens made them aware of the screw up. 😆

I don’t think that’s true. I just think he slept with Breanne and it just didn’t feel right. I think the guilt was just too heavy and he missed his sister lol I know you’re just being cynical, but I thought his character arch was really good

Agreed. Ultimately, Jaime is a cool guy as long as you're not going against his family. He's complicated, but I don't think there was some great revelation that turned him into a saint.

@@TheOctobersReact he never stopped loving cersei.he didn't intend to sleep with Breanne and run off I'm sure but when they decided to immediately march on cersei he needed to be there.and once again he used what people thought of him to get out of a situation

.........thanks, dad

AGREED.

@@NikoStark1 Not to mention george wrote dragons like almost indestructible tanks. The only one he actually wrote who died by a scorpion bolt was Meraxys and he specifically stated she was shot through the eye. No other large targaryen dragon has died from a scorpion bolt

what, GoT would be awful if every character got the bog-standard literary treatment. ASOIAF reflects real life, lots of people/ characters don't get the "just" death their "arcs" deserve lol

My sentiments exactly.

Makes perfect sense if you ask me. It's the headcanon that people expected for the end that didn't make sense.

@@SerbAtheist lol ok buddy

That is a spoiler though lol we all had to wait til episode 2 to see what the theme was.

A kill from the grave

Right? Either grab her and jump or just jump so Cersei doesn't get to have her killed.

Would have been a better ending than the one that followed.

@@SilverBloodedOne AGREED.

Funny thing is reviewers that had seen the episode days before knew about it, but couldn't say anything due to an NDA.

@@AstroAvenger THAT is a fun fact. The starbucks thing, meh. The idea that somebody knew and COULDN'T say because of NDAs, hilarious

sure, by carriage

@adrianpeart In the book it seemed like a pretty slow-moving procession. There was at least one wheelhouse for Cersei and the children. They brought a bunch of extra people to tend to everyone, plus there were a lot of freeriders that just tagged along. I believe Robert also brought his collection of Targaryan weapons with him. And who knows how much of their clothes and stuff the lot of them brought since we know there was at least one feast.

Which doesn‘t mean its right, and why we prefer living in democracies xD

​@@gintuner4371best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter, to best understand why Greek Philosophers scoffed at the idea

@@thedrinkinggamemaker9749 ok, and yet our entire world revolves around it and thrives more than ever before. Greek philosophers also believed in some pretty ridiculous stuff, its not enough to just say „greek philosophers said a thing and theyre obviously smarter than we are“ if you have a point to make, go ahead, but so far i cant see any in what youre saying

They did waaaaay too much off screen in seasons 6, 7, and 8.

D & D liked the actress who plays Cersei so much they didn't want to kill her off so they destroyed Dany's army and dragons to level the playing field.

Ships must be made of rocks and the bird shit is the glue

Seriously. Imagine the King died and there was no Euron. Yarra could build the fleet to end all fleets, How did they ever lose. Being on an island and having utter mastery of the sea means they never get invaded, but can invade anwhere near an ocean, or deep enough river with impunity.

Rocks and birdstuff is obviously meant to tell us something true while being stated through a heavily overstated filter. ....They're the boat people. Yeh. They made a lot of boats. If THEY had been the ones employed to *also* build the scorpions, then you would have a point. ...they're the boat people you dork XD

@@Ceractucus ...........Yarra WAS promising to rebuff their armies and make them more - ... god, y'all really just try so hard. How did who ever loose...? The ironborn....? Because - ....... Theon and Yarra....? Because - ...... Dawg what are you talking about XDDDDD

It is known the iron born get what they need from others, it not would be strange if they had obtained the woods the needed it from the closest lands

She didn’t go insane .. smh she was angry and hurt that she lost everything and gave her all to a group of people who did not appreciate that she left everything and gave it all for nothing.

@@shonquesanders4232she went insane , I don’t get how you can deny it

i loved this comment bro, genuinely i was siting here in my head thinking about it then your comment popped up and you nailed it!

@@TheOctobersReact I don't know if y'all have finished watching yet so I'm not gonna say anything but there is a second part to this that I'll post on the last episode video.

we finished, but just don't say anything till its over so people wont get spoiled, I'm surprised how many ppl are watching for the first time with us. that makes me feel happy! some people don't understand we are ahead in real time unlike you so thanks for being considerate!

The script for season 8 is just incredibly bad unfortunately, there is no way to justify the writing for Jamie no matter how hard you try to bend it around to make it fit.

He definitely also “caught feelings.” She brings out the best in him. The attachment just didn’t have long enough to develop enough to ultimately keep him away from his sister who is pretty and clever but has no other redeeming qualities (other than loving a few beings that are 50%+ her DNA). His character development would’ve been solidified if he’d resisted the urge to go back to his sister. Instead, all down the drain. He is not “hateful” like his sister. She’s just his weakness.

Exactly and people are so blind to this because of their feelings towards dany

This...and also the fact that the Mad King lost the throne by right of conquest No Targaryen had claim anymore at least until Dany conquered them again...but in terms of heirs I guess technically since all his kids w Cersei were Jamie's then Stannis should have been on the throne and was the only one with an actual claim on it since none of Robert's bastards were legitimized. ..lol sorry for the ramble but those that claimed that Dany was right to be mad cause her birthright was taken...and it's like nah it was never hers or jons since they were overthrown...anyway cheers

Wouldn't abdication have been a solution? Jon announcing to the north that he refuses the crown?

He is NOT the best, you are welcome to argue that he is the BETTER as compared to Dany, but he is NOT the best he's an ignorant moody dork who has spent his life in isolation he knows NOTHING about the kingdoms, there are literally prolly HUNDREDS of better choices than Jon, and to move to address the dork beneath you, "and people are blind to this because of their feelings towards Jon" He readily explicitly admits he doesn't even know all the houses in the North. Literally wtf are you talking about saying he would be best.......? Tyrion and Varys powercouple, boom, sh4t all over Jon with half a brain cell and one lazy idea. I'd have taken Lady Mormont over Jon easy. Do you really want me to list off people who haven't spent their life in a moody coma ignoring most of the world around them.........? His whole life was shunting himself into a corner, then being at a wall with a hundred criminals, then walking around in the snow for [a long time]. Now he's THE BEST EQUIPPED, with his inability to even keep track of all the houses in his own really rather sparsely populated patch of snow Insane Delusional Self-assured Kookoo talk He's a moody dork. Let him live in peace. A man who tried to, OOPS DID, unalive him, tried [perhaps even literally] to curse Jon right before he got unalived by saying "you'll be doing stuff for them forever", he clearly just wants to live in peace, you're trying to employ him with the single highest position in the land. Literally I don't even believe you like him as a person with how you're trying even so many years later to ruin his life by forcing everything he's fought against upon him. Even I am doing more justice by him, and I'm the one who keeps calling him a moody dork. At least I listen to him. And pay attention to his life and qualifications He is NOT the best equipped I don't care to argue with you about him as compared to Dany, do feel free to make that claim instead next time :D

@@morpheusjones4753 ............he already did that.......................... can I direct your attention backwards a few episodes.......? To be clear I love your idea personally, don't mean to be rude. But the North sucks. He came back and said "naah she got it" and they all caused a scene

That came out wrong

Would you say that if you were one of the innocent ppl engulf in flames, would you say as you are burning to death, it's OK, she is honoring her best friend last words.

@@shootingreal5945 No, i say in Daenerys state of mind, lost dragons, lost missandei, lost her kind of power she had before.....losing Jon.....She can snap

I think the moment he slept with Breanne, he just fell in his heart It wasn’t right. And I think in that moment, he just wanted to run back to Cersei out of guilt she really ruined him.

@@TheOctobersReact jamie's arc is still a Great arc. it's a "falling" arc, he's come a long way, but Cersei is his poison, his desease. one can redeem himself (and he did) but there are things impossible to defeat. Cersei is a good metaphore for cancer. when you think you've healed, it kicks back and wins the flight. I love Jamie, he is one of my favorite characters.

not all arcs must be "positive" arcs. as I said in my other comment, a "falling" arc (or "negative" arc) can still be a good arc.

@@raistlinmcfly7535 totally agree. And we’ve seen Jaimie go back to his sis a few times even though now she’s totally reprehensible and he knows it. It’s just a tougher one to swallow because he did so well. He was even happy after that battle at Winterfell. Actually enjoying himself. Something we’ve rarely seen him get to do

The month to travel is a bit odd. An army can march about 20-24 miles per day (in good conditions). Winterfell is about 1600 miles away from KL. That would mean about two months and a bit marching pace. That would mean the King's party traveled at about 50 miles/day. But a good horse can only cover about 35 miles a day (they're not as enduring as people. Faster, yes, but the tire faster too), and that only sustainable with small teams, not a whole court following. Provided they have horse-outposts to change horses, they could push it a bit, but not that much. In times of war, small parties at high pace/bursts of gallop and outposts for fresh horses, let's say we get to 50 miles/day. It would still be a month for a couple dudes. The king would have needed about a month and a half.

@@k.v.7681 I agree. It probably would take me 6 months to complete that journey lol

This. One month with the whole royal procession and tents and carriages. Quicker without all that but still not to the teleporting extent we see in the last two seasons.

@@k.v.7681 Good grief, it's a fantasy TV show with dragons, zombies, witches that can resurrect the dead, giants & a crippled boy who can see through the eyes of animals plus time and space. It's not real life

@@adrianpeartyeah but you cant really justify breaking the rules and metrics of your own story with contradictions. They had to because they wanted to abruptly end the show, even though a boatload of things would have actually happened in the world during the duration of their trip back to kings landing.

Has the creator said that?

He's not Jon Snow anymore. He's Aegon "The Simp" Targaryen.

@@dero2430 queen slayer

Truth. Starting with dabbling with blood magic to try to keep Drogo alive and also using blood magic ritual to hatch the dragons.

Or way before that when Drogo promises to Rape westerosi women and Danny looks at him like Yes Daddy lol.

And guys, make no mistake... that is a legit quote from the creators. The same guys who said "themes are for eighth-grade book reports." They both did a great job of hiding just how big of a hack they each were.

word.

Read the book. It's pretty damn good.

@@edmunddantes7097 I have read the book I've even read The Count of Monte Cristo ☺

@@alexflorea4879 Never heard of it....