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@TheCorruption123
@TheCorruption123 Год назад
It’s annoying how he avoided the question “what if this was Abby”.
@aquariuskudo
@aquariuskudo Год назад
Quality writing right there.
@TheUnseenPath
@TheUnseenPath Год назад
It's annoying she tries to lecture him on what's write knowing what's at stake and not trying to come up with an alternate solution.
@AleksandreoPL
@AleksandreoPL Год назад
@@aquariuskudo Thats what most people would do, beside of lying
@-1707
@-1707 Год назад
@@aquariuskudoactually, yes it is.
@MrJoelMiller
@MrJoelMiller Год назад
Because he’s a massive hypocrite, didn’t want to answer the question, so he made a choice that got himself killed
@joshk9226
@joshk9226 2 года назад
I think Joel stabbing Jerry with the scalpel is the canon death
@TheSuperPsychoKiller
@TheSuperPsychoKiller 2 года назад
No, it’s the flamethrower canon.😊
@SweetZD
@SweetZD 2 года назад
@@TheSuperPsychoKiller nah shooting him in the toe is the canon way
@eddiediaz5518
@eddiediaz5518 2 года назад
@@TheSuperPsychoKiller no, no. The canon death is unloading every bullet/weapon on him until there’s nothing left to attack with
@nesseihtgnay9419
@nesseihtgnay9419 2 года назад
no its the flamethrower
@LongNguyen-pl5hm
@LongNguyen-pl5hm Год назад
No, it's blow up all his limps then his head then tbag him to dead
@johnleonard9102
@johnleonard9102 2 года назад
When I first played the PS4 version long before part 2 was even announced, I shot him in the foot with the lightest pull of my bow, hoping to spare a doctor who I initially believed was just desperate to try and find a cure. But he still fell over dead. Abby's dad chose to die rather than patch up a moderate puncture in his foot.
@_boracic_atreus_23
@_boracic_atreus_23 Год назад
Yeah. He’s just selfish.
@Juneberryknight
@Juneberryknight Год назад
…I immolated him… All I had left was flamethrower ammo. I was in a blind rage, filled with adrenaline. All I left was a trail of burned bodies for Abby to find.
@jacobgonzalez2002
@jacobgonzalez2002 Год назад
How are you gonna cure a fungal disease? It most likely wouldn’t work
@Tadicuslegion78
@Tadicuslegion78 Год назад
I blame Marlene 100% for all of this because if she had just let Joel say Goodbye to Ellie, and or let Jerry talk to Joel and Ellie and explain the situation, and maybe something like Jerry agrees to try alternate non-killing methods on Elle to make a cure ,then everyone need not die.
@Kendorable
@Kendorable Год назад
I kinda blame everyone who didn't think to wait for Ellie to wake up and make a choice. Marlene, Joel, all of them.
@boltsy1395
@boltsy1395 Год назад
Not just that. I blame the doctor and the rest of the fireflies for taking advantage of them in their current condition at the time as well. If you ask me, they should’ve let Ellie decide on whether or not she wants to go through with it. At least they would’ve had an agreement on what she really wanted to do with her immunity because the understanding to it is “it’s her immunity not theres and they had no right to decide for her no matter what Marlene thinks it’s not right. And for Joel being blamed for it all on part 2 is not fair at all especially when they made it look like he had no room to argue about it even though he had every right to argue about it in his defense. Neil drukemen destroyed an awesome character for garbage reason.
@bluecricket6157
@bluecricket6157 Год назад
One of the most annoying things in movies/ shows / books/ plays any form of story telling. Have a conversation to clear up any problems? No. Straight to murder
@Memtma
@Memtma Год назад
True
@Memtma
@Memtma Год назад
I Blame the writters, there is no tlou II
@MrBassem95
@MrBassem95 2 года назад
When I got to this part in Part 1 I unloaded my entire supply of ammo into him. If I’m going to be killed for something I may as well be deserving of it.
@hyperfire1134
@hyperfire1134 2 года назад
lmao
@lardusbirmingham7020
@lardusbirmingham7020 2 года назад
I just blasted him in the mouth with my shotgun and felt pretty satisfied
@jijitheblackcatto
@jijitheblackcatto 2 года назад
this should be canon
@Daditsdeepinmystomach
@Daditsdeepinmystomach 2 года назад
😂😂
@rockycuro7737
@rockycuro7737 Год назад
Idk I think robbing the world of a possible cure is deserving enough but that works too I guess.
@cam.rrrron
@cam.rrrron 2 года назад
Interesting, in the original the doctor, Kari, is voiced by Laura Bailey, but since Laura Bailey plays Abby in Part II they understandably changed her voice actress in Part I
@JacobVonRoker
@JacobVonRoker Год назад
That's neat
@vincevanbro9641
@vincevanbro9641 Год назад
Marlene summed it up perfectly when she said “they had a choice” and that’s what Jerry didn’t give Ellie
@waverunner7063
@waverunner7063 Год назад
Was still worth it. Ellie is a spoiled brat. Think of the lives that could have been saved.
@waverunner7063
@waverunner7063 11 месяцев назад
@Yeo4 When the fuck did I say it was or wasn't her choice? Try reading comprehension.
@Nachullyy
@Nachullyy Месяц назад
​@@waverunner7063 ellie wanted to die, she wanted the cure to be made. but she didn't have an option
@waverunner7063
@waverunner7063 Месяц назад
@@Nachullyy I miss that game.
@Visethelegend
@Visethelegend Год назад
Why does no one ever mention that in the tapes you find in that section, there were other 12 people who where inmune and they operated them and still died without a cure.
@whiteboyeleazar4820
@whiteboyeleazar4820 Год назад
Ppl seem to just overlook it
@Dano_EightyEight
@Dano_EightyEight Год назад
Did it say they were explicitly immune? I thought they just experimented on "infected" people.
@LeoNardo-lb1ij
@LeoNardo-lb1ij Год назад
The recording states that they experimented on other infected. It does not mention other immune people. The recording literally states that Ellie's immunity is "like nothing I've ever seen." It also states that they did indeed test Ellie's blood while she was asleep, doing the brain surgery as a last resort.
@manchild6164
@manchild6164 Год назад
Before part 2,I did the melee kill because I wanted to see if I could just push him out of the way,I could not,and I killed the female surgeon because she called me an animal and that hurt my feelings 😭
@duvoszn
@duvoszn 7 месяцев назад
this was canon my brother 💪🏻
@AprilSunshine
@AprilSunshine 2 года назад
You forgot to include the fact that NOT killing him is not even an option. The game forces you to. Markiplier tried it in his playthrough.
@TheFishman123
@TheFishman123 2 года назад
whos dad? whos abby? bro thats just an npc from the first game what you talking about. not like the game has a sequel
@gwen4557
@gwen4557 2 года назад
Least schizophrenic Tlou fan
@Fighting4Myself
@Fighting4Myself 2 года назад
The sequel doesn’t exist within me
@jokeruiner4481
@jokeruiner4481 2 года назад
Someone's Delusional?
@TheFishman123
@TheFishman123 2 года назад
@@jokeruiner4481 no, why?
@jokeruiner4481
@jokeruiner4481 2 года назад
@@TheFishman123 delusions of grandeur
@Barbarian2625
@Barbarian2625 2 года назад
Still dont like abby at all. Never have, never will. I understand her story, her motives, however that changes absolutely nothing about me disliking her.
@kylewilkins919
@kylewilkins919 2 года назад
Agreed
@TopazBeast
@TopazBeast 2 года назад
They could’ve done a much better job at making us feel empathetic for her. Her motives do make sense, but like you, I still dislike her character, don’t think I’ll ever like her. I still think the sequel was unnecessary, first part ended perfectly.
@ThaKingJay
@ThaKingJay 2 года назад
If you understand her, that's enough. You don't have to like her, just see where she's coming from.
@Barbarian2625
@Barbarian2625 2 года назад
@@ThaKingJay thank you.
@distortedswamper5796
@distortedswamper5796 2 года назад
And that’s okay. As long as you understand her then that’s fine.
@luar215
@luar215 Год назад
Would’ve been nice if they added Jerry properly to the remake since his death is the catalyst that sets off part 2. Adding him to a cutscene or something would be great but really something as simple as taking of the surgical mask so you see his actual face would work too.
@bobwade1686
@bobwade1686 Год назад
I thought that too
@minoo1
@minoo1 Год назад
3:06 The fact that joel just burns the doctor with flamethrower lmao
@ofearghailthefearless6481
@ofearghailthefearless6481 2 года назад
Doctor: I won't let you take her. This is our future. Think of all the lives we'll save. Me: I'm not letting you terrorists become heroes in this story!
@edrodriguez4822
@edrodriguez4822 2 года назад
You would think if he didn't kill Abby's father the world would rebuild itself and lots of people wouldn't have to die
@otrocomentariomas9852
@otrocomentariomas9852 2 года назад
They were terrorists indeed
@mrrangard
@mrrangard 2 года назад
@@edrodriguez4822 there's no telling whether the vaccine would be a success and the only specimen they have to produce the cure is Ellie. Vaccine are not one attempt successes but need countless trials and tests and with Ellie being the only sample they would need a miracle to produce a vaccine successfully. Penciline took years 20 years to produce and recently we can look at Covid. There no way he would have 100% success rather a 1-3% chance of success and that's still being optimistic
@user-og8gf8xw5h
@user-og8gf8xw5h 2 года назад
@@edrodriguez4822 lol no. It’s never confirmed that his “cure” would even work
@basil8029
@basil8029 Год назад
Based and FEDRApilled
@danielj.anthony3910
@danielj.anthony3910 2 года назад
If there’s one thing Part 1 forgot to improve on, it was the Doorknob
@waverunner7063
@waverunner7063 Год назад
If only the doctor or his useless staff locked the fucking door.
@crypto2633
@crypto2633 2 года назад
0:49 What work my guy you didn’t make Ellie immune
@DUDULALALALALALA
@DUDULALALALALALA 2 года назад
Remember everyone when the original game of that surgeon doctor was nothing more than a random NPC and wasn't whyte?... Yeah Pepperridge Farm Remembers...
@thevideocommenter3061
@thevideocommenter3061 2 года назад
it'S jUsT bAD LigNthninG
@lardusbirmingham7020
@lardusbirmingham7020 2 года назад
He was always white... it's really not that hard to look up the original games scene
@thevideocommenter3061
@thevideocommenter3061 2 года назад
@@lardusbirmingham7020 it's really not that hard to understand that your favorite game did what is known as whitewashing.
@lardusbirmingham7020
@lardusbirmingham7020 2 года назад
@@thevideocommenter3061 I feel like I'm missing an inside joke, there's no way you guys are actually this stupid right? The old model is more aged but he is certainty white, doubt you actually have played the game but pretty much every other white npc has the exact same questionable complexion to people who haven't played the game for more than 5 minutes. It's just the graphics and character design of the game, not very complex.
@makhibarber7213
@makhibarber7213 2 года назад
@@lardusbirmingham7020 they want him to not be white in the old one because it justifies their idiotic hatred of part 2 …. It gives them more to complain about when in reality they’re just mad Joel died and it wasn’t some blaze of glory red dead redemption type thing…. Honestly I’ve seen some of the most idiotic reasons imaginable for hating part 2…..
@DarrenWatson64
@DarrenWatson64 2 года назад
To be honest, Jerry got what he deserved from Joel. He didn’t want to notify him beforehand what they are planning to do with Ellie.
@grimshock6983
@grimshock6983 2 года назад
It’s their fault for not letting us be “creative” with Abby. Seriously I wanted to golf club her. When this comes to PC we’ll get the club and make all enemies Abby with mods
@r.e.z9428
@r.e.z9428 2 года назад
Bruh, if they gave us choice in the game, Abby and her friends would would have died with extreme prejudice and Joel would have lived.
@grimshock6983
@grimshock6983 2 года назад
@@r.e.z9428 Your point?
@r.e.z9428
@r.e.z9428 2 года назад
@@grimshock6983 Thats why they didn’t let us be “creative”. Like imagine if they went sorta like a Tell-Tale route with it?
@grimshock6983
@grimshock6983 2 года назад
@@r.e.z9428 I know I was making a joke. By your point I meant would it be so bad to be able to do that
@Laoyuu
@Laoyuu 2 года назад
yessirrrrrr
@TheSouthsboy14
@TheSouthsboy14 2 года назад
They tried so hard to make us like Jerry. I’m surprised that they didn’t have him holding a puppy to.. He’s a retconned NPC from the 1st game. How could anyone give 2 shits about this garbage.
@regigigas9558
@regigigas9558 2 года назад
In the original "the last of us" , the doctor have a deferens skin color . Like a wise man say "they put Michael Jackson on us "
@jokeruiner4481
@jokeruiner4481 2 года назад
"Like a wise" learn how to speak English said man also
@DUDULALALALALALA
@DUDULALALALALALA 2 года назад
Remember everyone when the original game of that surgeon doctor was nothing more than a random NPC and wasn't whyte?... Yeah Pepperridge Farm Remembers...
@petrwarthursty2011
@petrwarthursty2011 2 года назад
@@jokeruiner4481 grow up grammar police
@easternunit2009
@easternunit2009 2 года назад
@@jokeruiner4481 When you are speaking you’re not really writing are you? I can speak Spanish but not write it and you call that speaking? Use the right words next time
@jokeruiner4481
@jokeruiner4481 2 года назад
@@easternunit2009 huh? Are you stupid? I said learn how to speak.... speaking is a part of typing... for him to type well he would have to know how to speak English... you don't teach someone a language by typing... you do it by speaking the language. Try again. Point is am telling him to learn how to speak English?? Not type ????
@jessetorres8738
@jessetorres8738 2 года назад
The Last Of Us franchise has proven that we're all the hero of our own stories, but we either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain.
@sleekittyy
@sleekittyy 2 года назад
thanks batman
@ItsMeSNiPEZ
@ItsMeSNiPEZ 2 года назад
Joel never became a villain
@circujt2860
@circujt2860 2 года назад
@@ItsMeSNiPEZ sort of he killed every person in a hospital because they were trying to make a vaccine but it made sense because he cared for Ellie
@ItsMeSNiPEZ
@ItsMeSNiPEZ 2 года назад
@@circujt2860 yeah but first, he was never a hero to begin with, and in that universe there is no "villain". Just people trying to survive whatever the cost or in this case, save someone that's very important to them
@Death-jl1cv
@Death-jl1cv 2 года назад
That quote is overrated
@AntonioMartinez-gv4ng
@AntonioMartinez-gv4ng 2 года назад
Seems more ideal to kill him with the shotgun since that's Joel's primary and also since Jerry has blood on his chest
@Al0nhf
@Al0nhf Год назад
his canon death is being stabbed by the knife
@AlexanderSnow23
@AlexanderSnow23 2 года назад
Its not his daughter he never was really placed in a position to make the choice. Love these games beautiful stories.
@brookhoney9629
@brookhoney9629 Год назад
But neither was Marlene or the doctors. It should’ve been Ellie’s choice alone
@enenrax
@enenrax 2 года назад
Yes, that's the reason to buy this game, see how Abby's Dad real color skin. Goty
@sean24833
@sean24833 2 года назад
Two years later and I still don't like abby
@DougieYT
@DougieYT 2 года назад
Yep, Abby sucks, Lev & Yara are much more interesting characters.
@lukesoddlife
@lukesoddlife 2 года назад
I think she has redeeming qualities, but obviously the character who kills a beloved character will receive hate. Her actions are justified though.
@yutro213
@yutro213 2 года назад
Abby will ALWAYS be detestable.
@hamadel290
@hamadel290 2 года назад
its ok someday ur consciousness will grow and u will understand her + like her :)
@ultra-chad4951
@ultra-chad4951 2 года назад
@@lukesoddlife her dad was going to operate on a patient and kill them without their consent. He deserved to die.
@salazarxiii9125
@salazarxiii9125 Год назад
5:14 is smooth lovely sound for my ear and soul. By the way, the best way to terminate doctor and nurses is flamethrower - you got singing solo as bonus ;)
@DroolingDrilling
@DroolingDrilling 2 года назад
Alternate Title: All The Ways You Can Kill Gigantor’s Dad Who Saves Zebras Kinda funny they raceswapped the surgeon from the original too. But I mean who cares, it’s not like there’s a sequel anyway. Just a bad dream. In all seriousness the flashback in Part 2 with Marline is interesting to me because it feels like they retconned her position on the surgery a bit. Like when she talks to Joel in Part 1, she’s more on the lines of “I love her but this is for the greater good and I will kill you if you intervene” whereas in Part 2 it’s more suggested that she’s like “you’re a monster for doing this surgery, but I guess there’s no choice, also imma tell Joel cuz he too will be quite displeased with this decision and definitely won’t do anything…” Like I don’t think it matches necessarily, she goes from fully committed to it knowing the potential to save lives with a hard but needed sacrifice to basically against it and more forced to comply begrudgingly out of the desperate to take a slim but potentially only chance for a cure. Which does sound similar, but I guess that what I’m trying to say is in the first game she’s much more cold about it and there’s that nuance of yeah she loves Ellie but she is also very determined in her self interest to survive and achieve this unimaginable goal of saving humanity. To someone who is more objectively loving and caring and ironically very judgmental towards Jerry being like “good luck with your sUrGeRy” and I’m like, errr you gave him the go ahead?!? Like suggesting he’s evil for doing something you had every excuse defending and even encouraging it as being something that has to be done regardless. It’s a weird 180, and I feel like they literally only did it to make Marline less “evil” when she was perfectly ambiguous and grey in her motives and morals, which made her more interesting. As well as make another excuse as to why my man Jerry is the bestest dad ever who saves zebras and wasn’t in any wrong because he’s just so nice and loving right? So to make Abby’s revenge more justifiable.
@homersimpson6428
@homersimpson6428 2 года назад
Lmao considering Joel lot the man on fire , Jackson seems kinda ok now lmao
@vincentshort1988
@vincentshort1988 Год назад
Flamethrower is a bit overkill but had to make sure he was definitely dead.
@Alexkabron
@Alexkabron 7 месяцев назад
When abby's dad pull out a scalpel, what joel do? Shoot the scalpel like a rdr2 shit
@SiM0n1755x
@SiM0n1755x Год назад
I love the Remake's effort in maintaining continuity by changing the doctor from Part 1.
@jurassicpark1fan920
@jurassicpark1fan920 Год назад
Not from Part 1 but just The Last of Us and the Remastered.
@eigelgregossweisse9563
@eigelgregossweisse9563 Год назад
1:35 it's even more fucking stupid when she mentions joel, and Jerry's there, and when joel comes in, Jerry's like... I dunno you. He shouldve mention his name.
@lamboempire4599
@lamboempire4599 2 года назад
No cutscene no new dialogue cmon this ain’t no remake
@TheFirstAtom
@TheFirstAtom Год назад
Which filter did you use when you shot him in the head?
@addisoncheddie5485
@addisoncheddie5485 2 года назад
Wow they are trying so hard to make this bullshit canon
@Hunterese123
@Hunterese123 2 года назад
It was canon regardless of this remake, jerry was in the first game, voice and all, his model wasnt as polished, thats it
@TheGoncas2
@TheGoncas2 2 года назад
Cope harder
@Just_Jac0b
@Just_Jac0b 2 года назад
Yeah, they made an entire 2nd fucking game lmao
@DUDULALALALALALA
@DUDULALALALALALA 2 года назад
Remember everyone when the original game of that surgeon doctor was nothing more than a random NPC and wasn't whyte?... Yeah Pepperridge Farm Remembers...
@Hunterese123
@Hunterese123 2 года назад
@@pearlcubs Because we didn't know his name, he was just Surgeon to us
@johnjacobespiritu3681
@johnjacobespiritu3681 2 года назад
Abby's dad?? That's just an NPC! I do not honor TLOU Part 2 as the sequel for TLOU Part 1
@alessiogambino04
@alessiogambino04 Год назад
why i don't get the scenes of the fireflayers leader talking to the doctor and the scene/gameplay of abby going to see her dead father?
@jacksonbear1
@jacksonbear1 2 года назад
It’s a shame you can’t spare him and get an alternate ending
@xCrystal_Wolf
@xCrystal_Wolf 2 года назад
Exactly 😔
@morefilms04
@morefilms04 2 года назад
This could’ve all been avoided if Joel just knocked him out with a punch and then left with Ellie
@cg6176
@cg6176 2 года назад
It's not an RPG.
@jacobgonzalez2002
@jacobgonzalez2002 Год назад
@@morefilms04 I mean the doctor had a knife towards him and at this point Joel ain’t joking around no more so can you really blame Joel?
@Heifer2997
@Heifer2997 Год назад
I know we are supposed to empathize with Jerry but he is an absolute prick. Convincing Marlene that the ends justify the means, keeping the choice from Ellie wanting to hide it from Joel. What a dick, he deserved what he got.
@thepradeepplays3034
@thepradeepplays3034 2 года назад
Excellent video 👌👏
@jennytorres488
@jennytorres488 Год назад
I haven't played this game but why does Marlene look like she's a character in Uncharted 4...
@rawnugget1022
@rawnugget1022 2 года назад
The retcon of us
@ErickPowah
@ErickPowah 2 года назад
2 Years since the release of part 2 and i still dont like Abby and all part 2 :/
@joshuarantoniocorteslopez2041
I'm honestly don't like how Joel act in this part of the history. Excelent Video quality.
@tactical_ghost199
@tactical_ghost199 Год назад
Did they plan for him to be a part of the second game?
@joshuagraham2843
@joshuagraham2843 2 года назад
so what are they goin to do with part 2 will they remake the game or abandon the game?
@mx9226
@mx9226 Год назад
This was suppose to make us feel bad for Abby. Didn’t work for me, how about you?
@codymilmine45
@codymilmine45 Год назад
Someone show this to abby
@rex74t
@rex74t 2 года назад
I still don’t care for Abby, not even one bit
@RaDicAL808
@RaDicAL808 2 года назад
Abby will be in trouble one day and Joel will save her. To repay him, she kills Joel.
@JG09101
@JG09101 2 года назад
Should've just left her to die lol
@mryoung6090
@mryoung6090 2 года назад
Joel tries to be a good person after killing and murdering people well its too late.
@gamerallday33
@gamerallday33 Год назад
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH now I get it.
@rinzler4993
@rinzler4993 2 года назад
Are we sure Abby is a woman...? :v
@eurech
@eurech 2 года назад
Virgin found
@ScienceSavvy502
@ScienceSavvy502 2 года назад
I feel Abby aiight? i feel her
@tupacshakur4446
@tupacshakur4446 2 года назад
To anyone who says “the sequel doesn’t exist” just know tlou part 2 is better than the original. Trust me, I didn’t like it the first time i played it, but after playing 3 times more in the last 24 months I can honestly say I way prefer the second game, I like it more every time I play it.
@msaadah1223
@msaadah1223 2 года назад
Yeah I think the internet calmed down a bit. People like to circle-jerk and hate something for a few weeks/months, but they always get bored eventually
@JG09101
@JG09101 2 года назад
Not in a million years lmao
@MrDarksword123
@MrDarksword123 2 года назад
Not even close lol
@tupacshakur4446
@tupacshakur4446 2 года назад
@@MrDarksword123 replay the game and then replay the first one at some point. Guarantee you’re opinion will change.
@MrDarksword123
@MrDarksword123 2 года назад
@@tupacshakur4446 oh I have, several times. Part 2s story is absolute garbage compared to part 1s.
@nefff999
@nefff999 Год назад
Didn't even kill him in every way smh 🤦 😑
@elij4465
@elij4465 2 года назад
Doctor: don’t do anything stupid. Joel: yeah like threatening the guy with the gun
@李欣儒-w7r
@李欣儒-w7r 2 года назад
Abby's dad is a hypocrite......the protagonists were in a coma for only a few hours at the time. The doctor only did a blood test and insisted on performing a craniotomy. In the recorded report, his tone was very excited. There is only one immune person, but he insists on making the riskiest decision. This kind of person is actually very paranoid and terrible, but he will convince himself with noble excuses.
@MalevolentStudios
@MalevolentStudios 2 года назад
Fun fact, this probably wouldn't have even worked anyway. They're dealing with a fungus, and in the real world with all of our modern tech, we still don't have any vaccines available for human fungal infection.
@TheUnseenPath
@TheUnseenPath Год назад
He insists on making the riskiest decision. What if he didn't and thought that was the only decision? He could have seen know other way not that there can't be another but IHD (in his defense) I make the case.
@theannihilator7989
@theannihilator7989 Год назад
Ok now I see why people want him to die so bad I just thought he was a doctor trying to help humanity but seeing this makes me think otherwise
@daffawaffa
@daffawaffa Год назад
Imagine how different things would've turned out if Joel had simply knocked Jerry out. I doubt Abby would've sought revenge for that.
@_.Alec._
@_.Alec._ Год назад
If he only shoots him on the foot or leg...
@TheUnseenPath
@TheUnseenPath Год назад
@@_.Alec._ That's hard to do.
@TheUnseenPath
@TheUnseenPath Год назад
Imagine how different things would have been if Jerry had not tried killing Ellie without her consent.
@ak86db
@ak86db Год назад
@@_.Alec._ i did the dumbass still felt over and died lmao
@-1707
@-1707 Год назад
@@TheUnseenPathimagine if the game had bad writing. that’s what would happen if you got anywhere near the writing staff!
@rye7839
@rye7839 2 года назад
It was a gamble at best. Never assured that ellies death would create a vaccine, joel was right. Not to mention Abby encouraged her dad to kill ellie and not once even ponders the thought that she also bears responsibility for what happened
@Sheriffwoodie860
@Sheriffwoodie860 2 года назад
Delusions
@mrrangard
@mrrangard 2 года назад
@@Sheriffwoodie860 he's right no vaccine is a one hit wonder and takes years to create/perfect and move from animal trials to human trials. Ellie being the only sample would make the chance of success less than 1-3% as it took 20 years to create penciline and 4-5 years to make a covid vaccine
@Sheriffwoodie860
@Sheriffwoodie860 2 года назад
@@mrrangard it took 1 year to make the covid vaccine bro
@mrrangard
@mrrangard 2 года назад
@@Sheriffwoodie860 1 year for the first variant of Covid which was to treat symptoms regarding chest/lung issues and needed a booster shot every 3-6 months They later discovered covid not only attacks the lungs but the heart, brain, stomach and each mutation resulted in a new vaccine variant. Just like the flu that shows up every year (much less complicated) has a new variant which requires a new vaccine The current covid vaccines are a built up due to all these trials and errors resulting in the current 1 year booster which is still not a 100% successful because of how Covid keeps mutating hence new vaccines are needed after identifying the mutation
@brookhoney9629
@brookhoney9629 Год назад
@@Sheriffwoodie860 That’s a big difference when you have the top scientists in the world and an unlimited amount of virus samples to test trial and errors as opposed to them having one sample from Ellie and who knows how many qualified scientists
@redmondpeters6221
@redmondpeters6221 2 года назад
What is making me so angry about this is Abby's father was willing to accept the death of a CHILD to save the human race. DAMNIT the guy's a doctor not a butcher! Whatever happened to 'First do no harm'? EVERY life is worth preserving and should NEVER be sacrificed. Meaning Abby's friends Joel Tommy and Jesse all died for NO reason at all. So in my opinion Abby's father's death was justified if he was willing to take a life to save lives. Doctors should never take lives. It makes them no better than the killers that walk the streets. And in real life doctors have killed people before. Harold Shipman is one example.
@eurech
@eurech 2 года назад
Sacrificing one to save millions, is always acceptable.
@DoubleClefFm
@DoubleClefFm Год назад
He is a Doctor in a Post-apocalyptic world and over 20 years into this zombie horror there is finaly a possibility to get out of it. I cant blame him.
@Xxsorafan
@Xxsorafan Год назад
Finding a cure would make his daughter immune to the zombies and much safer in this post apocalyptic world.
@GameJump3RZ
@GameJump3RZ 2 года назад
I don’t get why they decided to make Marlene sympathetic she seemed like she was ready to kill Joel without questioning the cause in the first game
@JG09101
@JG09101 2 года назад
Because part 2 is a massive, inconsistent dumpster fire that should've never happened
@ErickPowah
@ErickPowah 2 года назад
@@JG09101 Agree, part 1 is almost perfect. Speaking of part 2 well...
@videogamesworld01
@videogamesworld01 2 года назад
@@JG09101 Both tlou games are mediocre hollywood oscarbaits and the difference with the 1st one is people fell for it because of the innocent daughter trope and having your mediocre anti hero main character. The only reason the second one is considered worse is because of the PC stuff. If it had none then idiots would love the game and praise it as art like the 1st one.
@connoranderson7432
@connoranderson7432 2 года назад
@@videogamesworld01 what a fucking stupid hot take.
@belordo00
@belordo00 2 года назад
If you played the first game. Towards the end, you actually pick up a recording from Marlene saying she got into “an argument with the head doctor” about Ellie having to die during the surgery.
@levismith5435
@levismith5435 Год назад
Still don't feel bad for Abby
@AyZeD
@AyZeD 2 года назад
Something that annoys me is how abby's hair is the same when she's younger, it's just shorter. I always think she must age like a tree or something and a link gets added to her plait every year, you can count them to see how old she is.
@RafaelMunizYT
@RafaelMunizYT 2 года назад
and who tf keeps braiding her hair
@ShiniRyuga
@ShiniRyuga 2 года назад
"How do we show she's younger? Shorter Braid!!" like what? lmao seems like a lazy Design choice.
@Xxsorafan
@Xxsorafan Год назад
@@RafaelMunizYT if ur gonna keep ur hair long it makes sense to have it braided then cause no strands will get in your face
@Xxsorafan
@Xxsorafan Год назад
Maybe she just likes her hair braided?
@AyZeD
@AyZeD Год назад
@@Xxsorafan I like my aging theory better.
@Outcasteditor.mp45815
@Outcasteditor.mp45815 2 года назад
I just thought of something...so in part two of the last of us we see owen and manny who were there first to find abby's dad body so the flashlights coming into the room is either them or other fireflies? I dont know just a thought...
@WH250398
@WH250398 2 года назад
So no dismemberment like the original??
@esmael_8k
@esmael_8k 2 года назад
W joel
@tasuu_
@tasuu_ 2 года назад
Woel
@ryanpitz
@ryanpitz Год назад
I hope this Marlene talking to Jerry scene should be the opening scene in episode 9 of HBO The last of us
@brianfrisbie8106
@brianfrisbie8106 Год назад
I feel like the explanation Abby's dad gave to Marlene was a lot better than the explanation Marlene gave to Joel, and that maybe if she either had more people skills or let the doctor explain the situation that a lot of things could have been avoided.
@edurmissa
@edurmissa 2 года назад
3:08 is canon for me xD ¿Don´t you remember how grilled up used to look Mr. Generic NPC back in the PS3? Now he looks alike xDD The very least I really wanted this game to keep the same was this part, I was afraid it could be a full cutscene, but the very best part of it is the gameplay.
@deemoallday
@deemoallday Год назад
Lmao😂 he use the flame thrower fuxking epic
@hieunguyenrileygekko
@hieunguyenrileygekko 2 года назад
one of the biggest miss oppotunities is making Abby feels Jerry's death was her fault too due to encouraging him but Part 2, they tried so hard to make Abby looks nice and forced us to like her without making her a complex charactet (i dont hate her but shes really bland)
@Xxsorafan
@Xxsorafan Год назад
Abby doesn’t show survivors guilt that’s Ellie’s while character.
@faranaksoltani5648
@faranaksoltani5648 2 года назад
I hate that we can't ONLY knock him out and escape. its really unfair and ruthlessly😥. if i get to the surgery room, i WON'T do anything!
@Laoyuu
@Laoyuu 2 года назад
then you WON'T progress to the ending lol
@DUDULALALALALALA
@DUDULALALALALALA 2 года назад
Remember everyone when the original game of that surgeon doctor was nothing more than a random NPC and wasn't whyte?... Yeah Pepperridge Farm Remembers...
@makhibarber7213
@makhibarber7213 2 года назад
@@DUDULALALALALALA he was white stop being stupid 🫤
@Xxsorafan
@Xxsorafan Год назад
It’s not a rpg. U play joel and joel decides to kill him
@teguhf.2084
@teguhf.2084 Год назад
Abby look already older
@BRNardy
@BRNardy 2 года назад
What's the name of the intro song?
@bobwade1686
@bobwade1686 Год назад
Would have been cool if we saw abby walk in in this game or if we saw jerrys face
@yarimo
@yarimo 2 года назад
Last of Us 2 makes a better Last of Us 1. It enhances it like crazy.
@r.e.z9428
@r.e.z9428 2 года назад
I’d disagree, with how bad narratively TLOU2 was, if anything, the remake is just a retcon to make up for the writing of the second one.
@ciaranmurphy1912
@ciaranmurphy1912 2 года назад
@@r.e.z9428 I agree with you there you literally go on a killing spree in the last of us part 2 and at the end of the game you don't kill abbey o watched the ending and I was like what the fuck is going on here for fuck sake and that is why the last of us part II was terrible folks the ending was shit plus it was very fucking dark is well
@DougieYT
@DougieYT 2 года назад
@@KazaiTV Basically they made this shit as an apology for whatever tf that awful sequel was.
@Laoyuu
@Laoyuu 2 года назад
no way, TLOU 2's narrative was terribly written. I let my childish hate for what happened to Joel die out.. Now I can't help but look at the plot and be like.. they took a somewhat bittersweet beautiful story and made an acidic & sour like sequel that left me feeling like "i will NEVER purchase a TLOU 3 if it happens.". I couldn't come up with an excuse for the writing other than to say mayyybe it was just some shit artistic expression? It left my mental so bad that when i heard they were making this remake, I was in fear that they were going to re-write it.. instead it thankfully turned out to be a next gen remaster 2.0... lol and that's not a bad thing, and YES i know there was much more tuned up than a remaster, that's why it's called a remake. I was just saying remaster to say it's the same game I fell in love with and will happily purchase to re-experience it's improved setting and well loved story.
@Hunterese123
@Hunterese123 2 года назад
@@KazaiTV You mean a group tryna find a cure, right, but Joel slaughtering a whole hospital and a doctor for Ellie, thats all good though, you not see the hypocrisy here lol
@eurech
@eurech 2 года назад
Villain vs villain. Joel was not a good guy, in fact he did worse things than Abby.
@MrDarksword123
@MrDarksword123 2 года назад
Well that's a lie.
@BiggerBossN313
@BiggerBossN313 2 года назад
@@MrDarksword123 nope he killed innocent people as a hunter
@MrDarksword123
@MrDarksword123 2 года назад
@@BiggerBossN313 Joel killed to survive. Millions of others in their world did the same. He on the other hand showed that he still had morals and redeemed himself by helping Ellie. Something he didn’t have to do but he still did because deep down he knew it was the right thing to do. Abby killed innocent “trespassers” and tortured seraphites being the top soldier for the WLF. She also tortured a man after he saved her life in front of his daughter begging her to stop. She also turned against her own group who she’s known for years for a kid that she just met that was a seraphite. And finally, she slept with her ex boyfriend while he has a pregnant girlfriend behind her back. She is a despicable character who I will never like.
@mryoung6090
@mryoung6090 2 года назад
@@MrDarksword123 He killed people for his own personal gain. It's pretty easy to see why Abby antagonizes and hates Joel.
@MrDarksword123
@MrDarksword123 2 года назад
@@mryoung6090 same can be said about Abby tenfold.
@ALaz502
@ALaz502 Год назад
All of this shit could have been avoided if they just told Ellie and got her to consent.
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