In 1993 the Philadelphia Phillies and San Diego Padres once played a double header that was plagued by rain delays. The first game started at 4:45pm but because of multiple lengthy rain delays the first game didn't end until after midnight. Game 2 started at 1:28am the following morning and didn't end until 4:40am as the game went into extra innings.
I remember that as I saw large chunks of that doubleheader, including the entire second game live to the end at 4:40 AM Eastern Time. That second game was actually supposed to be the regional game of the FIRST half of the ESPN Friday night baseball doubleheader. Instead, after watching the Yankees-A's on ESPN (main second game of that doubleheader) where I was, for those of us able to, we watched that infamous second game of this doubleheader, which is on RU-vid. This doubleheader started at 4:30 PM locally, had several lengthy rain delays and the first game did not end until almost 1:00 AM Eastern time. It cleared by the time the second game started with no rain delays. Luckily for the Padres and Phillies, they were scheduled to be the Sunday night game on ESPN that week, so they didn't have to worry about a day game on Sunday. Also, after that game, MLB implemented a rule the second half of a doubleheader can not start after Midnight local time.
@@WaltGekko I don’t know if it’s still the rule but at the time the rule was the umpires had the right to call the game but the home team had the right to decide whether to start the next game. So that first game would’ve never been completed if they hadnt had to play a second game because the Phillies lost three in a row at the time and told the umps there’s no way we’re not starting the second game. Maybe it’s because I was 14 but that ‘93 Phillies was full pf crazy wins/games like that
I wish the NFL would have spontaneous prime time games that are out of the ordinary. Personally, I hate MNF these days and TNF seems pointless, so I wish the NFL would scrap one of those packages. Then I think it would be intriguing to have a small handful of Tuesday night, Wednesday night, and Monday night or Thursday night games if the NFL actually did scrap those packages. To me it would be exciting having a Tuesday night special or a Monday night special just two or three times a year because it would be a shakeup (if a team played a Tuesday or Wednesday night game, then they would get a bye for the next week). I know this would never happen, especially the NFL dumping an already existing primetime package.
@@ohnobro1424 Some can start at 11 p.m. ET if they're on the West Coast. When Hawai'i hosts a game, it could start at midnight ET or slightly later. Hawai'i aside, most games don't start later than 10:30 p.m. ET.
Right! It took me a while to get into the college football being born 48 years ago. I moved to AZ the from DC area decades ago. Yet, just like yourself, I watched some of those late night games back east
The Atlanta Braves played a rain-delayed, 19-inning game on July 4, 1985. The game ended at 3:55 AM, the latest finish in the history of Major League Baseball. And that's when the fireworks started... literally. Rather than give out rain checks for the postgame fireworks display, the Braves decided to set them off right after the game anyway. At 4:01 AM. Neighbors panicked and swarmed the Atlanta PD with calls claiming they were being bombed.
Same here!! I actually just posted about staying up late with a couple buddies cooking out and drinking at midnight Sunday night watching the Raiders because we were all night owls working 2nd shift... lol
In 1987 the 49ers and Falcons had to switch home dates in what was then a divisional series due to the Giants winning the NL West. This resulted in the 49ers playing their final three games at home. In 1989 the Giants won the NL West again, forcing a switch of home dates with the Saints. This resulted in the 49ers having four straight home games between weeks 9-12. This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about a similar baseball/football conflict in Baltimore in 1970 and its unusual resolution. You also made two videos about how Raiders fans on the Eastern time zones would have been affected by potential repeats of the “Heidi Game”.
Then there’s the Jets-Mets situation in the late 60’s-early 70’s when the Mets were good. If the Mets had a playoff run going, and the Jets had a home game during it, even if it wasn’t on a day the Mets were playing, the Jets had to play on the road. And if it was against a team outside their division, they were losing a home game instead of switching home and road games if it fell on a game they played a divisional opponent.
@@hanschristopherson8056 Yes they did. And the Steelers blamed losing both their bye week and mini-bye through no fault of their own for their collapsing late.
@@WaltGekko the NFL could have just canceled the games instead then the team could blame that for finishing one half game out and costing the players a game check.
I remember watching this game for a completely different reason. It was broadcasted in the NFL Network, which had Spanish commentary in my country. Games in the NFL Network were usually called by an ESPN analyst who was really good, but because this game was so late they had to find someone else. They got some dude who didn't even had a name, just a nickname. He was alone and had no idea wtf he was watching. To this date I still don't know who he was but it has been the worst called game I've ever watched, shit was unbearable not only because he was completely ignorant of the game but he was shouting and joking like he was in a comedic radio show. It was a peculiar experience.
The 49ers also had to swap home games with the Saints because the Giants were using Candlestick for the 1989 NLCS against the Cubs. Good thing the Saints and 49ers were in the same division back then. That situation likely would have gotten hairier if they weren't both in the NFC West.
This is why I love living on the west coast. Football starting when you wake up at 10 and going until around 8 PM. Still leaves time to do homework or whatever I have to do.
I actually watched this game as I am already a night owl and love late night college football on the west coast so this was a no brainer for me! I remember watching this game and wishing there were late night west coast games like this more often because I love night games- just seems something fun about playing under the lights to me. Though this was not the latest game I ever saw- one of the latest I ever saw was a college game between Tulsa and Oklahoma State delayed by storms that did not start I think til after 1230am ET!
In 2019 Cal and UW played til almost 2:15 *PT* because of a big ass lightning storm in Seattle, there was even talk (though not much) of moving Hawks/Bengals
The other issue with playing at cal is that after the 74 game the city of Berkeley passed some strict parking rules . Due to the issues of the lack of parking at memorial stadium.
Damn. That's really late. I was in middle school in 2013 so I don't think my parents would've let me stay up to watch this game. I kind of remember the highlights of it too.
Something funny about this game is the TV graphics. The scoreboard uses the NFLN scoreboard bottom bar, but uses the down and distance graphic on the field is the one CBS uses. You can see hints of station change. It was likely the CBS crew and equipment that was already in there, just a different network broadcasting it.
I remember working the coliseum for the oakland as playoffs game before this. If i remember correctly it was the game charles woodson came back and had a clutch pick
I loved the infield dirt on the football field, and I miss it very much. It always gave the games a kind of primal look and feel. Some of my favorite images of NFL games as a kid were NY Jets games in a dusty, windy Shea Stadium, or any late season game at Baltimore's Memorial Stadium.
I have posted before on this channel how cool it was watching the cameras televising a football game pan over and, wow, there's a baseball infield. Kind of like a parallel universe. It also was a sign that we were not stadium overbuilt the way cities are today.
Another precedent for starts this late applies to college football due to the University of Hawaii being five hours behind New York and two hours behind LA, which, in combination with Hawaii not recognizing daylight savings time, results in 6 PM HST games during September and October starting at midnight EDT.
I remember that game as I liked the late night game it reminds me of late night games during college football on Friday and Saturday nights on CBS Sports Network. I wish the NFL would schedule 2-3 a year.
I remember that game...C-Wood's scoop and score had the Coliseum erupting. DJ Hayden with the game ending INT. As a Raiders fan, I remember thinking, we need to schedule every game at 8:30pm!
"...while posting a passer rating of 118.8," which is *exactly* 3 times higher than if you did nothing but spike the ball into the ground on every play. I honestly expected to hear this.
I've watched NFL games at around 3am, but those were preseason games played in Japan, still kind of neat though. I remember this game because I worked 2nd shift at the time so I didn't have to be at work until 3pm Monday (East coast time), so I always stayed up late on Sunday night. A couple buddies of mine are HUGE Raider fans and that game was originally going to be shown here locally. Knowing that I had the Sunday ticket and the NFL Network, they ended up coming over to my place to watch the game. So here we all are cooking out and drinking at midnight on a Sunday night!!!!
There was at least one game with a later start-although it also could be deemed the earliest start. On Saturday, October 23, 1971, the Bills played at San Diego in a game that started at 9 pm Pacific Time and midnight Eastern Time. I’m not sure why that game wasn’t on Sunday afternoon, but the extra-late Saturday start time was to enable the game to be televised live on local TV in Buffalo, to avoid prohibitions on televising NFL games conflicting with local NCAA football games. Since games were shorter back then, the 1971 Buffalo-SD game might have finished earlier than SD-Oakland in 2013.
I suspect it was played on Saturday night because Saturday night games drew higher attendance than Sunday games, and those days TV was not a factor in the home market. The Buccaneers on occasion would play Saturday night games in those days for the same reason as I remember.
Interesting about that game. There was a 9 yard field goal and a 10 yard field goal kicked by the Chargers. Those are impossible in today's NFL. The shortest FG in normal kicking formation today is 18 yards.
@@brooksfire9580 I think it was changed because in 1973, there was a case of a kicker missing an 8-yard field goal that hit the crossbar on it's way UP.
Great video I’m from Oakland and we lost all 3 of those teams basically but man what a time to be alive when all 3 played in the same parking lot brought back great memories
As an east coast sports fan I dont get the big deal. Local teams in the other 3 major sports have west coast trips where every game starts late. (Espically mlb trips that can last almost 2 weeks) so were kind of used to it.
1) If this does happen again, it would be under different circumstances nobody would see coming. Considering the reason for that one is no longer an issue. 2) Curious. What could be considered worse? A game between two west coast teams that start at 8:30PM or the possibility of west coast teams playing away games at 6:30AM? That is, if the NFL gets a wish of theirs done and puts an NFL team in London and all.
I remember Hawaii had games at like 2-3am on ESPN many times too growing up. Then you also had the 24 hour feast marathon around Thanksgiving time for quite a few years from the mid 2000's or so forward, where they had games literally all night from midnight or so and all day the next day. I remember trying so hard to watch them all as a teen/young adult, but inevitably crashing eventually around 7 or 8am lol. Good times.....I miss them.
I remember watching that game living in the Eastern Timze Zone in Indy....I was working night shift at that time of ym life and was use to staying up and was one of my 3 nights off
I remember the NFL used to schedule doubleheaders on Monday nights on opening weeks of each regular season---- 7PM (EST)/4PM (PST) and 10PM (EST)/7 (PST). After the Covid era, they switched to only one game. (8:30 EST/5:30 PST).
this reminds me of the giants vs nationals game 2 of the nlds in 2014, which went for almost 6 and a half hours, 18 innings, and ended around 1 am est.
I remember really enjoying that football Sunday, having four games in a row is awesome. If the league ever plays an international game in Asia, I could see a game taking place in the middle of the night here in the States and still getting good ratings (as an example, Tokyo is 18 hrs ahead of the East Coast)
Tokyo is 18 hrs ahead. Because you have to add in The international date line. If it's Monday here it's Tuesday there. My boss is From Okinawa and his wife Used to travel to Japan every so often
I remember watching this game in college. I explained to the RA's at the time about the game being on this late and they had to walk around to make sure no one is violating rules. Midway through the third/fourth quarter they turned off the TV saying nothing at all. Proceeded to go to my dorm and watch the rest there but really was a damper as I get doing your "job" but they didn't give a reason why other than violating "quiet hours".
I remember this game I was cool with it cause I was gonna be working at 3pm and got off at 10pm and that was right when the pregame (central time) started. Good times.
The other baseball game that ended so late was 5AM in the morning back on July 4th into July 5th 1985 when the New York Mets played against the Atlanta Braves and the fireworks show cane after the game at 4:30AM. It was so late back in 1985.
It's interesting you pointed out the parking lot conflict with the Warriors. Didn't that same thing happen to the Ravens at the beginning of the 2013 season? They had to open the season on the road as SB champs because of a parking lot conflict with the Orioles. Or have you already done a video on that?
If you think about it, baseball games played on the west coast start at 10 or 1030 pm eastern all the time. Conversely, I miss the first half of Monday and Thursday night football on a routine basis. So living out west does have its drawbacks.
The only way I could see a game happening like that now is if it took place in Japan or Australia. Midnight Eastern would be 2 or 4 pm there respectively. But that would have been scheduled in advance
I wouldn't mind if they did this on Columbus Day weekend, Veterans Day weekend when it falls on a Monday, or if Festivus was on a Sunday when on Monday, most people have work and school off.
Oklahoma State and Tulsa played a college football game that was supposed to start at 9PM local time, which is atypical for a start time in the Central Time Zone, but was delayed about 3 hours by a thunderstorm. It didn't end until about 4AM Sunday morning.
Then there was the unintentional conflict in 1986-while it was not a stadium conflict as Giants Stadium and Shea Stadium are about 18 miles apart, the dramatic Game 6 rally by the Mets and a rainout put Game 7 of the World Series against a Monday Night game between long time NFC East rivals.
I really wish the NFL would have a late late game like this several times during the season. Maybe on the days we have a game in London we could also have this on the west coast between west coast teams. I would love to see 5 games in a row a couple of times a year. Plus, so many people don't work the standard 9-5 anymore so really I don't think that would be a big factor. What does anyone else think?
"And the league likes to avoid stretches of three whenever possible, especially that late in the season, when homefield advantage Is magnified." Unless it's the Patriots, of course.
The Atlanta Braves had this scenario but Game 4 of the national league championship series in 1991was there while the falcons vs 49ers was moved to San Francisco and the November 3rd meeting was moved to Atlanta
that means the game started at 1:05am my time and ended at 4:09am my time, we all stay up late in Newfoundland. we are 90 minutes ahead of eastern time and four and a half hours ahead of pacific time.
I call this game the K. Allen game. This was my first year playing FF and I was following the game on the ESPN app. Every other play was a K. Allen catch.
Its not been done before that I recall... But they could have broadcast this game a second time at a proper time slot for the East coast.. and possibly gave that replay to NBC
I don't get why the option of moving it to Tuesday wasn't taken, it would have been much better for TV broadcast (in that it would be at a time that most people could actually watch it) and probably still been OK for fans going to the game as well. I guess the reason why they didn't do it was that it would have left the teams with smaller gap between that game and whatever the next game they were playing would have been and the players said NO to that.
I went to a Yankees@Tigers game that started at 11:06 after a rain delay. Of course then it went into extra innings and ended with a walkoff at 3:30am!
I remember that. Carlos Guillen won it as I recall. Great memory, miss those awesome Tiger teams of that period. They were a huge part of my late teens/early to mid 20's. Shame they never won a World Series title though.
You forgot to mention another time that two divisional opponents switched venues. It happened because of the Pope visiting the US back in '78 or '79. The Eagles and Redskins switched their home games that year because of the scheduling conflict involving where he was going to be.
I remember this game but there was also a game that was at 7/10 pm and it lasted until like 2/5 am I was like damn and people were like asleep or getting sleepy cuz the game dragged out past its original end time
In 1986, the Giants hosted Washington on Monday Night Football on the same night the Mets won Game 7 of the World Series that season. It’s possible to have two sporting events go on at the same time at home.
Not to mention that game 7 of the 1986 World Series that the Mets won was I think the most watched(or close to)in MLB History. While that MNF Giants vs Washington got the lowest ratings in it's history. Maybe someone here can post the exact numbers.