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The left's problem with anti-Semitism, explained | Daniel Finkelstein 

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“He’s got a rather different problem. It may be that he’ll have more candidates in the same position as Mr.Ali.”
Daniel Finkelstein explains why the left is often linked to anti-Semitism, and the problems that poses for Keir Starmer.
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@SarfrazKhan-r4i
@SarfrazKhan-r4i 8 месяцев назад
Questioning why British citizens are committing genocide by fighting in the IDF is not anti semitism
@Henrik578
@Henrik578 8 месяцев назад
The problem in this analysis Mr Finkelstein conveniently omits is Mr Ali does not belong to the left of the Labour Party. If he did he would have been out at the first whiff of this affair, George Galloway or no George Galloway
@chrismichaelchristodoulide4777
@chrismichaelchristodoulide4777 8 месяцев назад
If you are not pro Israeli then you are a left wing anti Semite, don't you get?
@wavecreatures
@wavecreatures 8 месяцев назад
Criticism of Israel is not antisemitism.
@martinportelance138
@martinportelance138 8 месяцев назад
Antisemitism is the IRRATIONAL hatred of Jews. If it isn't irrational, it isn't antisemitism.
@jaialaiwarrior
@jaialaiwarrior 8 месяцев назад
What do you call an obsessive, hateful fixation on it?
@leedowner2249
@leedowner2249 8 месяцев назад
not antisemitism, doesn't matter what you want to call it, criticism of israel is not antisemitism@@jaialaiwarrior
@jaialaiwarrior
@jaialaiwarrior 8 месяцев назад
@@leedowner2249 so a hateful, obsessive fixation on Jews being allowed to own land or govern themselves is not antisemitism, in your esteemed opinion?
@leedowner2249
@leedowner2249 8 месяцев назад
@@jaialaiwarrior you're the only one talking about Jews, I didn't even write the word Anti Israel is not anti Jew
@DavidPatersonPortraits
@DavidPatersonPortraits 8 месяцев назад
Antisemitism and criticism of Israels actions are two different and separate things. My Jewish Mother was antisemitic.
@kanematthews6630
@kanematthews6630 8 месяцев назад
"Daniel Finkelstein explains why the left is often linked to anti-Semitism" linked BY people like himself in the mainstream media... do an explainer on the right's problem with spuriously calling rivals antisemitic as a political strategy: that would be much more informative
@Morning404
@Morning404 8 месяцев назад
You hit the nail of the head 💯
@Charlie_Crown
@Charlie_Crown 8 месяцев назад
Absolutely spot on
@hashtag_thisguy
@hashtag_thisguy 8 месяцев назад
It's not anti semitic to question or criticise Israel's politics.
@808State21
@808State21 8 месяцев назад
No but support for Palestinians who voted for a terrorist group that want to eradicate jews is
@Morning404
@Morning404 8 месяцев назад
No matter how hard the right wing media tries to make us think that.
@logant6490
@logant6490 8 месяцев назад
​@@808State21most Palestinians are too young to have voted for hamas.
@anaroa2842
@anaroa2842 8 месяцев назад
THEY HAVE BEEN TRAINED SINCE 5 YEARS OLD TO HEATED ISRAEL....😮😮...😢...SHAME ON THEM, THIS ONLY BRING COURSE ON THEIR LIVES,
@mattjagger4360
@mattjagger4360 8 месяцев назад
Well. That's a strong comment. Replace that with Islam. And look in the mirror...yes...you would proclaim racist. Its entertaining watching left wing people go level 10 narcissist and dislike the recourse for what they say...applied how they use it on others.
@docastrov9013
@docastrov9013 8 месяцев назад
Amazing the amount of bandwidth such a tiny number of people take up.
@markusd.7409
@markusd.7409 8 месяцев назад
True. I wonder why all those Antisemites have nothing better to do than to focus on the Jews. From Nazis to the far left they’re obsessed with Israel and Jews. Amazing
@williammohan9784
@williammohan9784 8 месяцев назад
if you mean the Jews, well there is only 15 million Jews in the world, but their gene pool must be immense as they are world leaders in all the fields of arts and sciences. Churchill called them, the most remarkable people on the face of the earth.
@OrwellsHousecat
@OrwellsHousecat 8 месяцев назад
😺
@kiranbarrow4648
@kiranbarrow4648 8 месяцев назад
Any one who says any criticism of israel is antisemitism needs to get a reality check...vote george
@airhabairhab
@airhabairhab 8 месяцев назад
Being critical of the Israeli Governments decisions isn’t “anti-Semetic”!
@shangrila448
@shangrila448 8 месяцев назад
no-one says it is. Holding the Israel government and Israel to higher standards than any other government or state usually is.
@swarming1092
@swarming1092 8 месяцев назад
Nobody is saying that it is. We're talking about antisemitism.
@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_
@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ 8 месяцев назад
​@@shangrila448Most states aren't shooting kids with snipers 😂😂
@incurableromantic4006
@incurableromantic4006 8 месяцев назад
There is near 100% overlap between the two groups.
@berniethekiwidragon4382
@berniethekiwidragon4382 8 месяцев назад
​@@shangrila448 Israel is engaged in apartheid. How is calling for an end to that holding Israel to a higher standard than any other country?
@tima4167
@tima4167 8 месяцев назад
Times Radio is propaganda
@Travis_22
@Travis_22 8 месяцев назад
All mainstream media is propaganda.
@TonThonFraisdEau
@TonThonFraisdEau 8 месяцев назад
You have NO definition of antisemitism....how convenient...it can be whatever you want to ...
@jebbo-c1l
@jebbo-c1l 8 месяцев назад
ironically that makes real anti semitism even more dangerous
@TonThonFraisdEau
@TonThonFraisdEau 8 месяцев назад
@@jebbo-c1l Then what is real antisemitism ?
@bethanp3453
@bethanp3453 8 месяцев назад
​@@jebbo-c1l Spot on
@Vitobandito434
@Vitobandito434 8 месяцев назад
I’m a non Jew but a staunch supporter. The criticism against Israel is based on falsehoods that are rooted in ancient hatred of Jews. Those who say “just because I criticize Israel doesn’t mean I am an antisemite” remind me of the Fox News watcher trumper who claims he’s not a racist but hates BLM.
@Geffo555
@Geffo555 8 месяцев назад
Just an over intellectualised sermon. The simple truth is that the left naturally sympathise with the underdog. Which is obviously the Palestinians here. That doesn't mean that I side with Hamas. I have no better opinion of them than I have of Netanyahu. And many Jews are just as critical of his regime. And rightly so.
@berniethekiwidragon4382
@berniethekiwidragon4382 8 месяцев назад
Palestinians ≠ Hamas. Zionists confuse and conflate the two on purpose.
@DaveyMulholland
@DaveyMulholland 8 месяцев назад
Aye. This guy can't see the woods for the trees
@edaleman2758
@edaleman2758 8 месяцев назад
Would you have sided with the French Resistance? 🤔
@Geffo555
@Geffo555 8 месяцев назад
@@edaleman2758 The French didn't raid Germany and take hostages.
@edaleman2758
@edaleman2758 8 месяцев назад
@@Geffo555 they fought their occupiers and oppressors, which is what Hamas are doing
@michaelkimber6203
@michaelkimber6203 8 месяцев назад
The "problem" is leadership. I had high hopes for Starmer but he has failed to unify the Labour party. He flip flops continually and gives right winger opportunities galore. Get a grip.
@fernbracken
@fernbracken 8 месяцев назад
if by antisemitism you mean british disaproval of israeli actions, yes it is very wide spread here in the UK
@swarming1092
@swarming1092 8 месяцев назад
No, antisemitism.
@shangrila448
@shangrila448 8 месяцев назад
no-one says it is antisemitic. . Holding the Israel government and Israel to higher standards than any other government or state usually is
@incurableromantic4006
@incurableromantic4006 8 месяцев назад
Funny how attacks on Jews always spike at the same time as "disapproval of Israeli actions" spikes isn't it? Almost like it's the same people doing both. . . . . . .
@jeremymanson1781
@jeremymanson1781 8 месяцев назад
Your comment lacks nuance. 'Israeli' actions? Or do you mean the Israeli government's actions? For a start, 20 percent of voters in Israel are Israeli Muslims and there is no way they approve of 'Israeli actions'. And then there is a very active Peace Movement in Israel, as well as enormous opposition to the current extremist Israeli government.
@Geffo555
@Geffo555 8 месяцев назад
@@shangrila448 You've said this twice but I still don't get it. Antisemitism in its base form is a toxic doctrine that tries to justify the hatred of all Jews. And it's hard to apply that to critics of Netanyahu's regime when many of the critics are themselves Jewish.
@Sakur1686
@Sakur1686 8 месяцев назад
Any criticism about Israel is considered antisemitism today while everything Israeli government says about Palestinians, even calling them human animals and calling for totale extermination of Palestinians passes as a normal speech. What is going on?
@Travis_22
@Travis_22 8 месяцев назад
What's going on? Your bias apparently.
@glendasharman9852
@glendasharman9852 8 месяцев назад
That's called gaslighting. This is all about the Zionist party calling the shots.@@Travis_22
@carltaylor6452
@carltaylor6452 8 месяцев назад
A hyperbolic and untrue opinion, as Finkelstein clarifies at the start of this interview, which you no doubt did not watch. Ali's 'criticism' of Israel was irrational and unhinged. What *is* going on?
@jmhorange
@jmhorange 8 месяцев назад
@@carltaylor6452 I mean if you leave a terrorist group which calls or the destruction of your country in its charter in power for over a decade, funnel money to the terrorist group, state on multiple RECORDED occasions that having Hamas in power splits Palestinian leadership and furthers your political aim of preventing a state of Palestinian, have a year's worth notice of the Oct 7th attack, see footage of training a few weeks before the Oct 7th attack, lower troop numbers around the border during the time of the Oct 7th attack... Yeah it kind of looks like you are using the attack as a pretext for war. Or at the very least, Israel is profoundly inept and has failed the basic task of protecting its citizens which is the basic requirement of every government. Also Israel said they would win the war in a few weeks, that's all they needed....it's like Russia's Kiev in 3 days all over again. When exactly is Israel's war going to end? Do they even know?
@criticclips1560
@criticclips1560 8 месяцев назад
@@carltaylor6452 and ? It wasn't anti semetic
@TonThonFraisdEau
@TonThonFraisdEau 8 месяцев назад
What is your definition of anti Semitism ?? Do u have one ???
@cindyengel5670
@cindyengel5670 8 месяцев назад
12,000 children killed FFS. And you are offended by name calling?!
@carltaylor6452
@carltaylor6452 8 месяцев назад
And you have Hamas to thank for that, which is why I don't want any MPs in government with Israel-derangement syndrome spouting ridiculous conspiracy theories that lend any legitimacy to them.
@glendasharman9852
@glendasharman9852 8 месяцев назад
Exactly. The bias is unbelievable and Palestinian lives seem to count for nothing. But oh! Such insults against the Zionist regime. It's pathetic especially ol' Finkelstein who apparently was 'terrified' of Jeremy Corbyn getting into power.
@zaidsayed3222
@zaidsayed3222 8 месяцев назад
Starmer gets £280k from Israel so much for being a human rights advocate ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-g9hrdSkNTkE.htmlsi=NgaaXBfEXhrStycJ
@markusd.7409
@markusd.7409 8 месяцев назад
Numbers and claims from a terror organization called Hamas. Most people also subconsciously believe it’s only civilians being killed. Those terrorists should stop hiding behind civilians
@incurableromantic4006
@incurableromantic4006 8 месяцев назад
Half a million British children abused by Muslim gangs. Where was your outrage then?
@mises9954
@mises9954 8 месяцев назад
The islamic imperialistic movements need to be discussed .❤
@Travis_22
@Travis_22 8 месяцев назад
A number of factors I think. White apology being one of them imo.
@garethbelk4065
@garethbelk4065 8 месяцев назад
that seat is lost to labour now, the guy will be its sitting MP for as long as he wants it, its free speach kier, get a grip, what on earth has rochdale got to do with isreal??
@shangrila448
@shangrila448 8 месяцев назад
Ask members of the Muslim community there - they are only too keen to promulgate their views.
@berniethekiwidragon4382
@berniethekiwidragon4382 8 месяцев назад
I wish more MPs would part with Labour over Starmer's Israel apologist stance. It would lead to a sizeable portion of former Labour MPs keeping Starmer in check.
@spartacusforlife1508
@spartacusforlife1508 8 месяцев назад
I'm not Muslim, I'm not jewish. When you look up the definition of anti semitism what the Labour candidate said didn't meet that criteria. In fact what he put forward has been voiced in Israeli media, by ex Israeli military and by thousands of Israeli's. The conflation of what is anti semitism, started by the Israeli government to tackle the rise of B.D.M., has ruined our political discourse
@Charlie_Crown
@Charlie_Crown 8 месяцев назад
Being critical of Israel's current genocidal tendencies is not being antisemitic...
@martinportelance138
@martinportelance138 8 месяцев назад
There is, IMO, much more Islamophobia in right-wing circles than there is antisemitism in left-wing ones. Heck, most Jews are left-wing (when they're not in Israel). The ethnoracial element is much more present among zionists argument than among anti-zionists' as well, who tend to see all human being as being equal.
@johnnysheen9615
@johnnysheen9615 8 месяцев назад
The Labour party is right wing. A country isn`t a Religion.
@lapis.lazuli.
@lapis.lazuli. 8 месяцев назад
Any criticism of Israel as a state, the conduct of the IDF, Zionism, extreme lobbying, almost just the mention of anything related. Being empathetic the destruction of Palestine. Even making a negative statement about the Israeli government, or it factions is called racist and anti-Semitic.
@markusd.7409
@markusd.7409 8 месяцев назад
That is simply not true. It’s often being framed like this to legitimize Antisemitism
@airhabairhab
@airhabairhab 8 месяцев назад
@@markusd.7409You’re wrong, this interview proves that his comment is correct. You simply cannot seriously criticize Israel’s Government as a western politician without claims of antisemitism.
@shangrila448
@shangrila448 8 месяцев назад
no-one says it is antisemitic. . Holding the Israel government and Israel to higher standards than any other government or state usually is.. The openly declared genocidal claims of Hamas are unchallenged while the arab population in Israel, the West Bank is growing at a fast rate. All this while massacres of tens of thousands of civilians in muslim countries are left unopposed. One can only assume they are ok as arabs or muslims are doing it.
@jeremymanson1781
@jeremymanson1781 8 месяцев назад
Nonsense. A near majority of Israeli citizens are massively critical of the current Israeli government. Zionism is more problematic, given that it now used as a 'code' word for Judaism.
@johnwright9372
@johnwright9372 8 месяцев назад
Every time anyone speaks up against Israel, the hysterical "anti Semitic" loudspeakers are turned up full volume by the state of Israel and all its useful propagandists.
@yvelaine
@yvelaine 8 месяцев назад
Israel is also undemocratic … enough of this use of the holacaust to justify not letting Palestine have 50 % of the land that used to be Palestine . this is about land not religion .
@petersomthing9508
@petersomthing9508 8 месяцев назад
Maybe The Labour party should move to the middle east will never vote labour again the Labour party is no longer for the working class or our Jewish community .
@filipedias768
@filipedias768 8 месяцев назад
Is the Israel/Palestine debate more important than things that directly affect you? NHS, economy,education, infrastructure, I don’t get it, tories are more extreme in the war matters, and, yet again, are getting an easy ride. People have a very short memory
@zaidsayed3222
@zaidsayed3222 8 месяцев назад
Starmer isn’t for Jewish ppl he is for the Zionist , big difference. Jews got butchered in Europe. Zionist are butchering people in Gaza so sad Zionist hijacked a religion of peace
@hashtag_thisguy
@hashtag_thisguy 8 месяцев назад
Specifically what is it labour party have done that makes them antisemitic?
@DaveyMulholland
@DaveyMulholland 8 месяцев назад
What do you mean by "our jewish community" ? Also, what planet are you on ? People keep being forced out of Labour for (alleged) antisemitism. Yet you're insinuating antisemitism is intrinsic to Labour's values? Surely these (alleged) antisemites would be promoted rathed than expelled were that the case. YOU are the conspiracy theorist in this instance.
@fernbracken
@fernbracken 8 месяцев назад
swarming - yes you are right there is no antisemitism what there is is anger over israeli crimes and activities
@derektoyne2729
@derektoyne2729 8 месяцев назад
The problem for Mr Ali was that he saw the lack of support for Labour due to Stammers stance over Gaza,so out of stupidity he played the conspiracy card hoping he could repair the situation in Rochdale. This spectacular backfired giving the seat to George Galloway without even contesting it and showing what a Stammer government would be like. One willing to ditch someone who doesn't agree with the leader. We should also remember Mr Ali is of the Stammer wing of the Labour party not the left of the party. Lastly Jewish voice for Labour claim your more likely to be thrown out of Labour for being a Jew than any other ethnic group. Why?
@seekthetruthfindit6879
@seekthetruthfindit6879 8 месяцев назад
Hamas is not a nationalist movement. It wants an Islamic Empire according to its own manifesto. I'm an ex-Muslim woman and believe I have a better understanding of the matter.
@ghazalhaqani8116
@ghazalhaqani8116 8 месяцев назад
'I am an ex Muslim so I know Hamas and everything I say is a fact' 😂
@bahriboy
@bahriboy 8 месяцев назад
Ok clown
@VentureHolly
@VentureHolly 8 месяцев назад
When people are oppressed, there will always be a small percentage who go a little crazy. You might be ex-Muslim but you clearly don’t know a lot about human nature.
@jebbo-c1l
@jebbo-c1l 8 месяцев назад
this video and thumbnail is disgusting. Anti semitism is a very real and dangerous thing. A free Palestinian state from Israeli terror is not anti semitism. Criticising Israel when it is plausibly committing genocide is not anti semitism. Palestinians are a semitic people as well for christ sake
@jmhorange
@jmhorange 8 месяцев назад
Let's look at the facts. Israel left Hamas in power for over a decade, a terrorist group that includes in its charter, the destruction of Israel. Israel funneled money into Hamas. Netanyahu has stated multiple times having Hamas in power prevents any chance of a Palestinian state. Israel knew about the planning of Oct 7th a year in advance and disregarded it. They saw footage of Hamas training weeks in advance and still did nothing. They relaxed security on the border around the time of Oct 7th. Israel is currently trying to get a ground invasion into the last place Palestinians have fled to for safety against even the US's wishes in a war the ICJ is saying could be genocide. But oh my god, a politician suggested that Israel allowed Oct 7th to happen as a pretext to the war in Gaza? Such antisemitism! That's really that far fetched? If it is, we should stop making judgements on Putin's motives and just wait for him to tell us his motives cause how can we form opinions with the evidence at hand?!? This is a not story for the UK that they are blowing out of proportion. It makes the UK look weak to the rest of the world.
@deannoble673
@deannoble673 8 месяцев назад
Absolute conspiracy theory nonsense.
@jmhorange
@jmhorange 8 месяцев назад
@@deannoble673 What's factually incorrect?
@DaveyMulholland
@DaveyMulholland 8 месяцев назад
​@@deannoble673"absolute" eh? Must be nice to be unequivocally in-the-right ALL the time, unlike everyone else. What are the odds... How does it feel ?
@TonThonFraisdEau
@TonThonFraisdEau 8 месяцев назад
Imperialism and colonialism are not the same . WWI was an imperialist war ...
@georgesdelatour
@georgesdelatour 8 месяцев назад
That doesn’t help. The words colony, colonise and de-colonise have undergone radical shifts in meaning. Originally a colony was a place you sent settlers to; so, in the British Empire, Australia and New Zealand were colonies which were colonised by settlers but India was not; that was an imperial possession but not a colony. The concept of a colony was expanded in order to make western imperialism appear unique, and unrelated to the imperialism of non-westerners; the gunpowder empires, the African empires, the Qing Dynasty etc. Imperial possessions which did not experience setter colonisation were therefore re-branded as colonies. The post-WW2 process of bringing imperial possessions to self-government was called “decolonisation”. Yet, according to the previous understanding of colonisation, very few of these territories were decolonised. One territory which was decolonised was Algeria, because independence led to virtually all of its one million French settlers relocating back to France. Logically the settlement of large numbers of Algerians in France is a form of Algerian counter-colonialism. At least during this period, everyone understood that decolonisation meant independence, and that term sort-of worked. But the continued expansion of the term means that people now talk with a straight face about decolonising algebra and astronomy.
@user-bu9nb8wr6e
@user-bu9nb8wr6e 8 месяцев назад
Racism is racism
@TheSupahJaws
@TheSupahJaws 8 месяцев назад
Questioning a country's politics (and various war crimes) is not racism
@davidjma7226
@davidjma7226 8 месяцев назад
Are there no Jewish Labour MPs? Why the silence from them?
@Oxnaforda
@Oxnaforda 8 месяцев назад
They kicked them out of the party for speaking out against Israel.
@incurableromantic4006
@incurableromantic4006 8 месяцев назад
I think Jews were more or less drummed out of the party under Corbyn.
@alastairwallace6153
@alastairwallace6153 8 месяцев назад
​@@Oxnafordano they kicked out everyone else.. stop lying tory party is full of racists
@TonThonFraisdEau
@TonThonFraisdEau 8 месяцев назад
Pogroms are a Russian invention ...
@cookiejar01
@cookiejar01 8 месяцев назад
Great interview 👍 👏
@sbwlearning1372
@sbwlearning1372 8 месяцев назад
love of islam is the problem
@coraldyecoraldye7083
@coraldyecoraldye7083 8 месяцев назад
I can now see that I used to be antisemitic. I definitely considered myself more on the left. Of course I never considered myself antisemitic. Now I recognise what my antisemitism was: The go-to method if I was a lazy thinker, lazy joker, and lazy bully.
@3000_d_bomb
@3000_d_bomb 8 месяцев назад
A lot of wind. Not much said
@wow47
@wow47 8 месяцев назад
Hate hate hate No politician should accept any such in the political party and the community that does not integrate or accept country's law
@coraldyecoraldye7083
@coraldyecoraldye7083 8 месяцев назад
Sometimes unpleasant ideologies emerge not only because of some 'positive' reasoning, but the lack of the normal moral processes that identify and limit that unpleasantness. The Neo-atheist perspective of the hard left, and the left's frustration with jews (as they represent a block to utopia) creates blind spots which allow the individual to withdraw protection to jews, even for the right of jews to protect themselves, and thereby misunderstand their own antisemitism. I agree one can look at the imperialism debate as one aspect, but the issue is very complex and interesting. It is possible definitely to criticise Israel (and the entire project) purely as a political criticism (and I have done previously myself) , however for any person to do so should be aware of their own blindspots informed by their basic spiritual and historical outlook.
@bobscholey8312
@bobscholey8312 8 месяцев назад
But the left are not frustrated by Jews. Zionists, yes.
@coraldyecoraldye7083
@coraldyecoraldye7083 8 месяцев назад
​@@bobscholey8312I think there is some latent frustration with Jews both from hard left and hard right. The 'Jewish question' has simply been moved from the domestic arena to the international one. We are now in the situation where Jews, in their political manifestation of Israel, are subject to unusually high negative judgement. Even by people calling themselves proponents of real politik.
@mylittledaddy9137
@mylittledaddy9137 8 месяцев назад
Israel?😂
@auldflyer
@auldflyer 8 месяцев назад
Starmer is doing exactly what his wife tells him to do...........
@shangrila448
@shangrila448 8 месяцев назад
How do you know and what's wrong with what he's doing in this case. Could you contemplate her not intervenening or giving good advice - do you accuse other MPs wives of malevolent control - if not, you're probably singling her out for some reason.........
@Geffo555
@Geffo555 8 месяцев назад
And who is telling you to write this nonsense?
@percival74898
@percival74898 8 месяцев назад
VOTE REFORM UK PARTY
@berniethekiwidragon4382
@berniethekiwidragon4382 8 месяцев назад
NO FASCISTS! 👎🏽
@alastairwallace6153
@alastairwallace6153 8 месяцев назад
No more fascists in charge thank you.
@robhughes645
@robhughes645 8 месяцев назад
If you have half a brain and think that these idiots are a remotely credible choice it's best you go back to your colouring books....
@abdulsufi7894
@abdulsufi7894 8 месяцев назад
Explain the right problem with supporting zionism, genocide, colonialism, occupation, apartheid, and racism next 😅☕️
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