The liberal international order is dead | Yoram Hazony interview 

Steven Edgington really is a rewarding interviewer to listen too - he’s so far ahead of most of the journalists that seem to be around at the moment. Good searching questions without the confrontational theatrics of many of his peers.

WW2 was not about "fighting racism", that's projecting modern attitudes onto the past.

An interesting q and a. New paths of thought were opened that are worth delving. Will look into Yoram Hazony's books further. Casard, Victoria, B. C., CANADA

The French are not very woke at all. They are known as "francks" for a reason. Also, they LOVE logically reasoned debates. So the idea of simply having to accept some crazy think and not criticize it is crazy. Over 80% want massive changes in immigration. Illegal migrqnts sleep on the streets. There would probably be yet another French revolution if they put the invaders in expensive Parisian hotels. The worst woke is in the Anglosphere, and most want to stop it in its tracks. Leftists in FR are not particularly into mouthing crap about French and France being so horrible. So women I met who would be woke here are basically normal liberals. Even Macron doesn't want le wokeisme.

On the concluding question; Atheism is a religion as much as any other. It is an *absolute* belief in no possible higher power or architect. One key reason this is religious is because we still do not know how and why the universe was created. Most Atheists point to the "big bang theory," which is a theory that fails to explain what existed *before* the "big bang," or what caused it. Many ancient texts describe a similar or the same theory, often referring to this phenomena as "the divine breath of God," which is to imply God existed prior to the "big bang," which is just as "scientific" as Atheists' idea that *nothing* existed prior. There is *no* evidence in either direction. Any absolutist mindset with regard to the existence of a prior entity to the "big bang" is religious.

Informative interview. Thanks for doing it.

So much information 🎉

Great Interview , Thanks !

Fascinating interview, nothing to do with Trump (thank goodness) and actually about the origins of conservatism and relationship with religion. But what is this invention of a new word "conservativism"? Yoram's book is called "Conservatism - a Rediscovery". Is this meant to imply that the UK's Conservative Party represents conservatism (when in fact it doesn't)? Still, this is a really interesting podcast series and thoroughly recommended.

Love and acceptance over darkness division and self-blindness.

Marriage fails due to imposed social/financial pressures, not due to poor training in how to be married.

YOUR GOD IS MONEY AND BLOOD.

Religion? Maybe he should look up the history of the Protestant Ascendancy in Ireland. And he doesn’t even know that evangelicals have the most divorces.

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Did superior English tradition justify the scottish and Irish clearances plus the disenfranchisement of aboriginal Australians mauri or north American Indians not forgetting the enslavement of Africans?

Trumpism and right wing populism has nothing to do with traditional conservatism.

From the side, Hazony looks like Bud Selig, former Commissioner of Baseball. A dead ringer!

Many points well made albeit confusing at times. It does have the feel of advocating conservatism for the sake of well organized public and private life. Organized to the extent that young people are brought into the fold and educated the virtues of current and historical significance with an eye towards moral and ethical efficacy. There are good reasons to revisit formal conservatism not just for the upsides but for it's many downsides as well. If this book is intended to justify Trumpism as the description suggests, it doesn't fly, quite in spite of conservative ideal.

The urss didnt fall, it was inherited by paris

Mr.Dawkins... and Edmund Burke & John Stuart Mill and... most of the mentioned philosophers are like... the unattainable ideals, in terms of their weltanschauuntg, in comparison to Mr.Hazony, the conservative!... ("God is Real"... cannot mean other then - in our heads.) But good interview all in all...

Did anyone catch the title of the book he suggests every American read?

Fascinating...!!! Now if someone could explain how it is that some people think they know what's best for others? Where does that sense of arrogance & entitlement come from? On the other hand, it would be great if someone could really explain where do rights come from? Are we really born with any rights? Not everyone believes in an implausible sky god, and it's not very convincing response either. Why would a pretend sky god give lesser beings any rights?

Fusionism mixed conservative with libertarians, not with liberals. When libertarians mix with liberals, then we have a problem.

This guy was pathetic, as soon as he got a little push-back, he had to whip out his bible ….

Basic human rights are the same everywhere. Why is this so hard to understand?

Too much diversity, nullifies diversity in the end... becomes porridge.

Meh.

What a profoundly confused person.

Nonsense on stilts.

Five minutes into it and he already makes erroneous assumptions for the motivations of conservative politics. Currently, it is mostly fear-based and disingenuous in the quest for power, and beginning to resemble fascism...which leads to the mistaken and false rejection of rules based governing.

"Human flourishing" = international profit

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