The Liberation of Guam with Jon Parshall-Episode 316 

I read a history of the invasion of Guam. As Army troops approached a Japanese stockade holding Guamanian civilians they encountered something strange. Now the people of Guam had never seen the U.S. Army but they knew all about the Marines. So they began signing the Marine Corps hymn to the Army troops who were liberating them and ending their nightmare.

Since you have been so successful in bringing detailed programing to us, I have noticed a number of other channels getting more active and deeper information than they used to be. You have raised the bar and if imitation is the highest form of flattery, these other channels agree. Thanks!

As a military dependent I had the privilege of living on Guam for 3 years (1977-79) and as a 14 year had a blast exploring the island. 2 things come to mind, first having a history of Guam teacher that literally was a young girl who lived thru the occupation was the most riveting experience. Second, with my experiences as a retired Army Officer; you cannot find better Soldiers to serve with than the Guamanians and Samoans. I look forward to your episode on Tinian as my grandfather (Gunnery Sgt James E. Koon, A/1/23 Marines) was KIA there on July 24, 44. Keep up the good work.

Good day Gentlemen. I have been enjoying your various video's of the Pacific War but this particular one reminds me of my Father's participation. He served with the 1st Provisional Marine brigade on Guam. He joined the Navy at the age of 17 and received his boot camp training in upstate New York prior to going to the University of Illinois for training as a signalman. His first assignment to the fleet was to U.S.S. Boyd DD - 544 a brand new Fletcher class Destroyer built in San Francisco, California. His first combat was at the bombardment of Nauru Island where Boyd was in escort for the Battleships. Boyd was assigned to pick up a downed Aviator and while stopped to accomplish this came under fire from a Japanese Shore battery and was hit several times one hit knocking out the forward boiler room. Fortunately for my Dad he was on the port bridge wing when she was hit on the starboard side. Following the damage Boyd returned to Pearl Harbor where most of the crew was disembarked leaving a skeleton crew to take Boyd back to the U.S. for full repairs. My Dad then went on temporary assignment to the Marine Corps as they had need of Navy Signalmen for shore to ship communications for bombardment purposes. This is how he came to be on shore at Guam stringing telephone wire where he and a fellow Signalman ( who was shot by Japanese soldier dug in under a tree stump ). Just thought you Gentlemen would appreciate this little story. My father's name was Clement Bouchard Signalman 3rd Class ( 1943 -1946 , Pacific Fleet ).

1:39:00 Bangalore torpedoes were a standard weapon against Japanese emplacements throughout the war in the Far East - including Australians in New Guinea and Borneo and by the British /Indian forces in Burma. Generally nothing was guaranteed effective against Japanese bunkers, caves and re-enforced dugouts except bangalores, my father was in a battalion reserve in Burma (so re-enforcing infantry battalions with heavy weapons) and to the end of 1944 one of the weapons being considered was an aircraft 3 inch unguided rocket, in a tube on a tripod (called Li-lo) which could fairly accurately put a large explosive warhead into the the gun slit, as some of the bunkers were made with roofs of teak logs could deflect even a 500lb from a strike aircraft, but even to the defeat of the Japanese at Meikta and Mandalay in March /April 1945 bangalores were still a preferred weapon.

"F is not what you want, unless its your draft rating". Both sides of my family was from the Dutch East Indies (now Indonesia). My father was old enough to have fought in that war, but otherwise was in a Japanese prison camp when he became old enough to serve. Most of my uncles on both sides, did serve in the KNIL (Dutch colonial army) and most of those also ended up in prison camps. Two were not in the KNIL. One was still a child, but the other had the Dutch equivalent rating of 4F. Of course the Japanese were suspicious why he was not in uniform. Still put him in prison camp, as all males over 12, that were not "natives". They beat him regularly, but he ended up being the last relative of that generation to survive. Only passed away a little over a year ago, at age 97. Pretty good for someone rated 4F.

My grandpa was a Merchant Mariner in '44-45. He was on Guam a while after the battle and he said he went souvenir hunting in abandoned Japanese emplacements, where instead of flags and Nambus, he found someone's makeshift still, which he liberated the contents of.

This by far is the best exposition about the invasion of Guam. Everything I have read, and there is a complete black out of this subject on the internet, about the invasion of the Marianas stresses upon, quite eloquently, the invasion of Saipan, the battle of the Philippines Sea, and the taking of Tinian as the "Jewel in the Crown" for its strategic importance and relegates Guam to a sideshow with an ensuing lack of coverage for the battle.

I never thought I'd look fwd to 0500 Tuesdays. Great show!👍

After listening to your story about the Japanese soldier who finally surrendered in 1972, reminded me of a story. A Japanese soldier was found hiding on some Pacific Island a few decades after WW2. After he was taken into custody, he inquired as to who won the war. He was told the United States won the war. So, they put him on a jet and flew him back to Japan. After the jet landed and taxied to the terminal, he got off the jet and kind of looked around and said - "We Lost?"

Thank you for your support (and due criticism) of the National Guard. Many of the Army divisions with the most days in combat in WW II were Guard divisions. The 77th Infantry Division is indeed a storied unit. However as a Guardsman I must acknowledge that unfortunately we cannot claim it: it wasn't (and isn't) part of the Guard. It was originally Army of the United States and later the Army Reserve.

Outstanding nuts and bolts presentation. Great history. Thanks so much. You do the participants honor by making certain they are not forgotten.

My mother was on Guam during the Japanese occupation. She was an American citizen who hid the fact so she would not be sent to a Japanese camp in Japan. Her father , my grandfather, was taken & he died there. While the liberation took place, she had to endure a death march. She survived, but many of her friends didn't.

An unnamed Destroyer came in so close at Fox Green 29:45 (Omaha Beach) came in so close and plastered the bluffs that the Air Corps missed, turned around and opened up again. My uncle and his men pinned down and getting picked off, saw sailors with M1s shooting at the German positions that shifted their fire at the now 3 DDs scraping barnacles, attacking Omaha. This allowed the engineers to Bangalore under much lighter fire, and you saw the rest. Without them, he felt they'd all be dead wounded and captured. Guam was a well run operation, all parts worked well together. I love my Destroyers. Can do everything, Not great at anything. Thanks for mentioning Close In.

You guys have become the nightly atmosphere in my house. When I make a few hours every night to exercise and answer emails I always listen to you guys. Thank you so much for msking these vids.

Dascinating information. Usually, the liberation of Guam is an afterthought to the battle of Saipan and the actions in the Philippine Sea. My personal interest, for way too much of my life, has been the history of American armor. Yes, the 706th Tank Battalion on Guam had Shermans, as did the USMC. It sounds like they were used in an intelligent method. By the way, historian Harry Yeide has written several good books on US armor, separate tank battalions and tank destroyers. In one, he quoted a study from the ETO stating that the presence of tanks (or tank destroyers operating as assault guns) made US infantry more confident and aggressive. So it was not only the protected firepower, but the armor probably boosted the morale of the infantry.

Love your content guys. Keep it up. Always nice to see Jon on as well.

I found this Channel a few months after it launched and was quick to realize it was and is a cut above the rest. Not only the depth of knowledge, the level of detail or the special guests they snag to come on... it's they way it's done, it's informal like guys chatting in a Bar. Just refreshing to sit listen and learn so much that in a lot of cases never got the coverage deserved. I started an new Construction Project in Ireland (I live in Alberta, Canada) and today, while in an open plan office going over some stuff.... I hear a familiar tune playing from someone's phone. Yep this video. My head spun round, I stood up and walked over to the guy watching it..... I have a new friend with a shared interest. As always guys, you do amazing work and I offer my most profound respect. Thank you for keeping us educated and entertained.

My father was with 3rd Armored in the ETO. He was at the liberation of Mittelbau-Dora near Nordhausen Germany. He came home "changed" according to his siblings. They meant he had PTSD, but we didn't have the vocabulary for PTSD back then.

One thing that strikes you standing on the shore at Guam is the narrowness of the landing area. Unlike many of the sprawling battlefields of WWI and WWII these island battles take in comprehensible areas that students of the Napoleonic or American Civil War would be comfortable with. They are much deeper, but the width makes visualization pretty easy. Great job guys.

Another brilliant podcast. I've learned so much, not just the actual events, but the decision making in planning and execution of the operations

Thanks again, gentlemen. That was sobering. I thought that with a 2 hour presentation for the whole of Operation Stevedore (compared with Saipan) and the quality co-operation between the services, that Guam would see relatively fewer American casualties, particularly with superior use of armour. The fact that I was way off with that might be testament to the better co-ordination of Japanese resistance, combined with the nature of the split landing and terrain. As for the 200,000 servicemen who would be rapidly come to call Guam home, I'm reminded of a quote from (sorry) I can't remember who that "the Americans didn't overcome logistical difficulties, they overwhelmed them". And then that scene towards the end of Band Of Brothers when Webster berates the ranks of surrendered, marching and horse-powered Germans with " ... say hello to Ford and General f****ing Motors ... what were you thinking?" The economic muscle, scaled up from 1941 to 1945, of the USA still astonishes to this day. Just coming out of depression, to fight 2 superbly equipped and trained massive enemies 17,000 km apart beggars belief.

Anyone else seen the movie about Guam, "No Man Is An Island"? About a sailor who evaded capture after the island was occupied by Japan. It's 1962 Hollywood, so I'm curious how accurate it was.

Guam is a 2 hour flight from Tokyo. Today, Japanese take regular trips to Guam, as a weekend get away. When taking a business trip there in 1993, it seems that most of the gift shops, on the "hotel strip", are run by Japanese. There was at least one "shooting range" there, for the Japanese tourist because of strict gun laws in Japan. I didn't patronize it, and went scuba diving, on my off time, there. I could do my own shooting, back home, in Merica, with my own guns.

Great job on Guam. This liberation of Guam was covered in Episode 17 of Victory at Sea - Turkey Shoot. What awed me at the end of the episode was the aerial footage of the huge build-up of the island by the engineers - simply incredible - and the kind treatment by the Americans of the Chamorrons. Thanks for bringing this liberation battle to Unauthorized History. Really well done.

Jippikayei!! New episode!! And with favorite guest star.

Two things I would *love* to see: 1) your channel be officially recognized and “authorized” by the US Armed Forces 2) similar channels for the various European wars through history.

When I came across this show back at episode 103, I had hopes that you guys would cover Guam because it almost always gets skimmed over. With Jon and his wallpaper to boot! I’m so pumped right now. Thanks fellas!

My father was a carpenter on Guam in the Merchant Marines and helped build from June 1945 to Aug 1946. Thank you for a great informative program. I never knew the Marine and Army story on Guam. I also worked with a native woman from Guam for about 15 years till she and her family retired to Guam in 2005. Very nice family.

Holey Smokes!! Another Island Adventure, Bullwinkle!! Your podcast/You Tube is the equivalent of Auditing a Doctoral-level historical analysis. You Tube doesn't treat you Gentlemen right, and several other History offerings have struggled with funding. Happy New Year everyone!! Love, David

Three comments: Years ago I read about the Japanese soldiers who surrendered decades after the end of the war. It so amazed me I wrote the facts on a piece of note paper and put it on my poster board. It is still there years later amazing friends (and still me) who examine all the stuff on the board. Secondly, I received orders to join 3 military doctors and present medical lectures at West Pac hospitals. The plane journey from stateside to Pearl Harbor to Okinawa to mainland Japan then back stateside was indeed very long. Lastly, our country hasn't fallen since WWII. The world is now vastly different, and in response to changes, evaluative criteria are now defined by ever more sophisticated methodologies. I will always argue that we are, and continue to be, a great country.

Just so happens I recently saw a documentary on a holdout in the Philippines that they finally got to come in out of the hills in like the late '60's. He was an incredible pain in the ass for many years, burning crops, stealing supplies and occasionally scaring the shit out of the civilians. The patience and forbearance they showed for him was really impressive .

Thank you for another great episode. I worked on Guam for several months back in the early 2000s and before we left Japan the military folks we worked with told us how the rich Japanese went to Hawaii for vacation, and the "middle class" went to Guam. Seeing the landing beaches was interesting to see the advantage the Japanese had with the high terrain. And as John was saying to see all the Japanese installations that were still there. And - we visited Jeff's Pirate Cove several times - mainly because they had the best burgers on the island.

Another outstanding episode! My first duty station as a young enlisted man in the USN was Guam (84-87), so this one held a bit of a special place for me. I will never forget 'boonie stomping' around Orote Point and coming across the remains of a wrecked Corsair not far from what was the old Orote Airfield. It was a known, mostly undisturbed artifact back then, deep in the jungle. I'd be surprised if it is still there.

just a comment to help with the youtube algorithm and to express my thanks for this excellent series. P.S. I need a sample of that wallpaper pattern lol.

My father was brought back into the Navy and was Base Commander of the CB base in Guam where all the shot up equipment had been dumped. He had an Engineering Degree and had to figure out what was scrap and what had some value. Served in that position until July 1950. The stories of the conditions, the typhoons that hit and picnics on the beach where they were required to be in parties of at least 5 men, all armed with 45's. My parents throughly enjoyed their time on Guam after the war.

Seth and Bill thank you so much for your channel and most of all for all the histories bringing to light characters and details that we never ever could know without your master piece job. I love history specially WWII and I read, watched a lot about the European theater and I confess that about the Pacific I only learn about the majors events. History is the cheapest way to humanity learn how not to lose the future and built a good present, at least if the humanity understands the history! Thank you guys so much and keep up the good work!

After listening to the experience of liberating the citizens of Guam, I can only wonder about the good that would come if these lessons learned at such a high cost could be taught in the American universities that have lost their way. Losing freedom is hard to watch and will be much harder to live.

Thank you for this great coverage of the Guam campaign. My Dad was stationed there and we lived on Nimitz Hill when I was in 7th and 8th grade. Your history fills in many gaps in my first hand memories formed just 20 years after the campaign when the wounds of the battles were still fresh.

Guam episode. Best one yet. I love you guys. John adds much to the two of you charter members. Can’t wait till next Tuesday. My dad had four battlestars from the Pacific. He refused to speak of it. Staff sergeant in the 7th ID combat engineers.

I am now a member of the TUESDAY MORNING CROWD. You guys were spectacular! I love your insights- especially the native population & logistics. Keep up the great work. You are wise to have the three of you bantering back and forth. 👍👍🚿

The three of you are not only very informative but thoroughly entertaining in the way you present your episodes!! Thank you for bringing the history of the Pacific War alive!! Keep up the great work!!

Either Hideyoshi Obata or Takeshi Takashina (or both) appear to be in overall command of Japanese forces during the battle of Guam 1944. Of course, I consulted the master historian of all time for this information, Admiral Wiki Pedia. You guys mentioned Takashina getting killed in action during the battle, so I would surmise that Hideyoshi was the man missing during the battle. I'm loving the information you gents provide. Very informal, which I really like. My dad flew B-29s off of Guam for the remainder of the war.

Great job guys! My father was stationed to Guam when I was 8 years old that was 54 years ago. I remember him saying that they had the biggest frogs he had ever seen so being 8 that left a memory for years. He also sent me a huge box of beautiful sea shells. Good memories! Thanks guys!!

Well done guys. Another episode packed with great story telling bringing to life the tales of courage and sacrifice exhibited by our armed forces. I learn so much from you guys. Keep up the great work. It is so very much appreciated.

I love listening to the three of you. I even learn stuff sometimes. I may have seen over a hundred of your videos.

In mid- Michigan, 19 year old Owasso native Marine Pfc Harold A. Cooley memorial hwy-M-21. KIA 21 July 1944 at Guam. All I can see is he was from "22 Marines". He was on a landing craft that was hit by a mortar round and died of his wounds before they reached the beach. There's a WWI KSM shipwreck in the harbour as well. I wouldn't be surprised if he was KIA on the northern landing beach with the flanking fire. The last full measure of sacrifice

Another terrific broadcast guys. I await each Tuesday morning in anticipation and am never disappointed. Additionally, pay no mind to the critics. As a wise man once said “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles………Keep up the great work.

Oh i can't wait ty for your hard work ty for your service toti

Another fantastic episode! Good to see Jon back as well. Thanks guys!

Great series. You should consider the Java Sea battle and early days of WW2

Three wonderful storytellers!

An excellent video. Well presented and informative.

Top of the world Ma! Top of the world!!!!

Enjoyed this episode very much. I never knew much detail about the loss and subsequent recapture of Guam. It piqued my interest more because my Dad was stationed at NCS, Guam when I was a child, 3rd - 4th grade. We lived at Dededo before moving to on base housing. I recall the gorgeous Tarague beach and thick jungles. Amazing, the stragglers that hid out for decades in "the boonies." Thanks, guys. Great stuff!

Former artillery officer here: If the slope from the high ground to the beach/beachhead is steep enough, and it might be the case here, a reverse slope deployment of artillery would result in a blind spots near the slope that might be better covered by low angle fire. Large mortars would be effective (with enormous flight times), but howitzers generally can't elevate that high to hit the lower parts of the slopes. That's my professional explanation for the Japanese artillery deployment on the forward slopes where they are vulnerable to naval gunfire.

My late father was Air Force, based at Andersen AB in the early/mid sixties. I could see B-52s taxiing from our back yard. My schoolmates at the time insisted that there were still Japanese soldiers hiding out in the jungle - of course, I never believed such ridiculous stories...

Excellent channel--I have come to enjoy a program or two in lieu of TV every evening. Great material and presentation. I can't believe you don't have more subscribers for this quality content. Thx!!!

Great Torpedo Tuesday guys. I am fascinated with the story of the holdouts, stragglers, the Onadas of the war. Had to have been a strange existence.

Thank you. 9 years living on the most beautiful island, where into the 80's the war was still a topic I really enjoyed this episode. Its is interesting because for many years per capita Guam sent more people to the US military than any for the other states and territories. Never again.

Thank you Bill Seth and Jon y'all are amazing.

Good morning guys.Thanks for another one.

Gentlemen, my hearty congratulations and profound appreciation for your excellent presentations. You have set an admirable standard that I judge to be superior to rival YT channels. Long may you continue.

Heeeeey!! 2am on Tuesdays is best time!

I was hoping you would mention Tweed! As a kid on Guam in the late 70's, we hiked to Tweed's Cave in the interior of the island. It was decades ago, but I can still remember the incredibly hard walk it was to get to the cave. The terrain was uphill, and was thick with vines and foliage. Our guides had to use machetes to blaze a trail. You are not joking about the density of the vegetation on Guam. As elementary schoolers, my friends and I were out "boonie-stomping" on a near daily basis. We would regularly develop ulcers on our legs and the rest of our bodies, we called them "Guam sores". We had the luxury of bathing every day, but the jungle must have taken a heavy toll on those engaged in sustained combat on the island, or in Tweed's case, in hiding in the jungle.

Bill I hope others also caught your reference to the 1937 film “Shall We Dance” and the Gershwins’ song “Let’s call the whole thing off.” (Potato, potahto, Tomato, tomahto etc.) Very apt given the various pronunciations suggested to you by the viewing public. A great show. Thank you

Great show gentlemen.

Amazing how well things go when commanders command!

It feels like Christmas because the Three Wise Men have returned!

Thank you so much For all the Hard work I have Learned so much

You 3 guys are awesome. Ya'll are doing great work. Thanks. God bless you always 🙏❤

Admiral Nimitz recipe for the Old Fashioned Mix which he calls “CINCPAC SPECIAL” 1 clean one gallon jug. 3 quarts Bourbon. 1/4 of a fifth of gold label rum. Add sugar cautiously until you can just detect the presence of sugar. Fill remainder of jug with tap water.

Time well spent as usual. Thank you three for the education.

I really enjoy the history you present. Thank you for these interesting, educational and pleasant presentations.

The seminar and Nimitz panel mentioned at the beginning can be viewed on RU-vid. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_kStYkVO5_I.htmlfeature=shared

I love this channel! From all the great info, which have dispelled a lot of the myths that permeated a great deal of the historical record, to the opening videos and music which reminds me of watching “Victory at Sea” with my long gone Father…

Best show ever love you guys!

Another brilliant and detailed analysis by three excellent historians (well according to Bill he would say two excellent historians and a submariner) all three at the very top of their game!

The people on Guam were American nationals and the Japanese punished them every way they could.

I think is worth mentioning that the Pan Am Clipper facilities on Midway, Wake and Guam were also part of the story .

Great Job guys and glad to see Jon onboard.

I ran around Guam years ago, and it was so damn tropical hot it felt like my hair would catch fire just walking across a street. The idea of battling around that jungle for days, let alone weeks or months is just too insane to contemplate. Great scuba diving though.

Thank you men for bringing this history back to life...and I enjoy the three perspectives you all take turns sharing

Thanks gentlemen. Great work Seth, Jon & Captain Toti. You're appreciated.

Once again I thank you guys great work very informative and entertaining

Once again Thanks so much for your Candid conversation as we learn so much of History.

Thanks for digging up the map, Bill. The two prong landing strategy makes sense when you see the Orote peninsula also had an airstrip. But here's what I don't understand, "As Guam was American territory, and located south of Saipan, why was Saipan attacked first? Wouldn't the logistics be easier if the US invasion forces worked their way up the Marianas taking Guam first, rather than hopscotch back to Tinian later? The B-29 which came out in May 1944, could fly a round trip between Guam and Tokyo. Maybe your mini discussions on WW2 will provide an answer.

And with us today is Jon Parshall's wallpaper.....😂

My father was in the First Provisional Brigade on Guam, 22nd Marines. He fought that whole battle with filariasis and he said nothing would heal, pure misery. He was proud they liberated the Marine Barracks on the Orote peninsula. He died in 1997, was a Chicago cop after the war.

1:10:19 FYI. Louis H. Wilson was the Commandant of the US Marine Corps when I joined in 1977.

I want a link to that bilge pump video! At last some push-back against all this unauthorized history! 🧐😆

Shout out to Bill with the Dave Holland call regarding Guam. He would have to be one big brain of knowledge to get close to Dave ! Great show boys

I think it's fine that Bill Toti mention Turner's alcoholism without subterfuge or faking a cough. It's a fault he had and it should be acknowledged. I wouldn't mind them expanding more on interesting personality traits the Admirals had. Makes them seem more human and real.

I'm sorry you guys didn't mention Mrs. Vicenta Chargualaf Peredo . I was lucky enough to be deployed to Guam five times out out my fourteen deployments. Her infectious welcoming attitude really brought the American military community into the mainstream of Guam's daily life. When She passed in 2003 America lost a great citizen, The Naval personnel on Guam lost a good friend and the Seabees lost our beloved "Auntie". She is sadly missed. Great job otherwise. B/Z T/Y the Old Seabee Chief

I was on Guam 🇬🇺 in the Air Force. Was so cool to take tours and see the tunnels,bunkers, etc…

Hey guys, just found this channel looking for documentaries about the battle of Guam. Hoping to get to the Mississippi Armed Forces Museum next time I'm on the mainland, as we live down in Gautier when not on island. I have always been fascinated with the history of the war in the Pacific, as my Grandpa served in the USNR from 1942-44, in the PTO. My wife and I have lived on Guam for two years now and I'm still trying to get to all the various sites associated with the battle here. One thing that this episode touched on that I wish would receive more attention is the atrocious way that the Japanese treated the Chamorros. The concentration camp mentioned was only a small part of the cruelty they showed toward the good people of the island. There were several occasions of massacres, escalating as liberation grew closer. It is amazing to me how quickly the Chamorros forgave the Japanese. By the way, the falls where Shoichi Yokoi was found is Talofofo Falls, which is just under 3 miles from our house. And Jon, how can you come to Guam and not go to Jeff's Pirates Cove? Come on man! Next time any of you visit the island, look us up, we're a mile south of Jeff's. Oh, and Liberation Day is still a big thing here. This will be the 80th.

Excellent show gentleman, that you, cant wait for the 8th air force short discussions you have planned

My dad was stationed on Guam after the war. He served aboard the converted seaplane tender USS Norton Sound. She was one of the first platforms for guided missiles with the Viking 4 program.

Im sure the US decided not to heavily reinforce Guam out of a fear that the island might capsize with all that men and materiel coming ashore....😂😂😂 Ha! Bill spoiled the punch line. I never knew that was an old joke before Hank Johnson brought it up in Congress.

To this day, the highest honor that a Chammoro family can feel is to have children enter the military. Until fairly recently, military members had an open invitation to come to fiesta. Eventually it became too much of a hardship for islanders. BTW, The Japanese have built Guam’s hotel industry and there are high end retail and Duty Free shopping areas in Tumon where tourists (Korean and Japanese mostly but also smart statesiders) go to shop. The gratitude and celebration of Guam’s liberation is commemorated every July 21 with a big parade. The occupation is memorialized by a huge religious procession every Dec. 8 which is also Our Lady of Kamalin’s feast day. This is the day that a statue of Our Lady was brought to Guam on the backs of two turtles some time in previous times after the Spanish took over.