the life and death of the fashion magazine 

did you see that tiktok video too? the girl saying her childhood dream was to become a writer for a fashion magazine, like in 13 going to 30, and when she was old enough to be one, physical fashion magazines didn't exist anymore

I have a 17 & 19 yo, and the old fashion magazine editor aspiration seems to have morphed into streamers, influencers...or RU-vidrs. Yes, Mina, you are now an aspiration!

As a teenager, I ate fashion magazines for breakfast. My wallpaper was basically torn-out pages. My friends and I collected the most beautiful editorials, with intriguing interviews and glimpses into another world. It was an art form. An inspiring fantasy. We bought the magazines for the dream, the stories. Their attempts to become "relatable" is strangely what caused us to lose interest. Vogue & Glamour have turned into overprized advertorials for H&M, Zara and glamping. It no longer feeds a fantasy. It was always meant to promote consumerism, but the subtlety has gone. And no-one is going to pay for paper advertorials.

Vogue Philippines, despite having previous issues before, had its physical magazines sold out on shelves and on demand at local bookstores when they featured 100-year-old traditional tattoo artist Apo Whang Od (the oldest to be featured on a Vogue cover!). Just goes to show that print publication really need to focus beyond mainstream trends and create something timeless yet relevant - in this case, giving a cultural icon and her community a spotlight. Another informative video Mina! Hope you’re having a wonderful day.

i loved fashion magazines, magazines as a whole actually, idk what is but its was so cool to hold a magazine and read things when i was a kid, the smell, the texture of the paper... the internet is amazing ngl but everything going 100% digital makes me sad

I'm that girl who was obsessed with fashion magazines, cutting out my favourite outfits and doing collages, cutting out my favourite campaign photos to put them on my wall,... I definitely had no idea how the industry really is, and turns out I grew up to be a teacher, but I'm still so fascinated and interested in fashion, it has just become a smaller part of my life now

In Rupauls Drag Race Season 7, Rupaul tells Violet Chachki „You seem like you spend a lot of time alone looking at fashion magazines.“ To which Violet goes „Well, Ru, the internet has happened…“ and I think about that a lot when I see magazines literally anywhere.

I'm a writer for Metal Magazine and asides from the obvious of the majority of the people not caring about magazines anymore, there's such a strong community of press from all around the world that works on keeping this alive, it's like you don't need millions of people's interest, you need the passion of few

Mina with new brows? Start of a new era

Hi there!!! French fashion historian here, I thought I could share my two cents about the earlier part of the video. The Mercure Galant was not a fashion magazine per se, or at least not in the way we understand it. Fashion at the time did not mean only clothes, but rather a package of fashionable activities, mannerisms and topics - and then clothes. That’s also because the Mercure was originally a magazine for enlightened men, and was not really directed towards women only. It included them as a readership because of a growing consciousness of « class », especially among bourgeois women and there was money to be made. The first magazine targeted towards women (in France at least, but there are parallels in Italy, Germany and England around the same time) is the Journal des Dames. Funnily enough, it was highly subversive, especially when directed by women and even censored at some point. It resumed publication in 1797 and became the biggest fashion magazine of Europe until the 1830s and its decline, under the name of Journal des Dames et des Modes. It was literally copied everywhere! There are a few scholarly publications about it out there, like Annemarie Kleinert’s or Nina Rattner Gelbart’s. (Or my master’s thesis, though I’m not sure about sharing my name on the internet ahah) I would also recommend Woodruff Smith’s work on consumption culture and Daniel Roche’s Appearance Culture. Very interesting as always!!

I was obsessed with Nylon magazine and Nylon guys which was the male counterpart. The articles were sharp and funny and their spreads were so eclectic. When I was a teen I would rip out the pages and plaster them all over my bedroom like wallpaper. They went to digital long after I had outgrown them but I’m still nostalgic for that time in the mid 2000s early 2010s when I wasn’t a stressed 30 something with a mortgage and student loans 💀

I worked in a drugstore in the 70s and 80s (why yes, I am old. Very old. LOL), and every Tuesday I waited anxiously for the magazine guy to come in and restock the racks with new ones. Glamour, Mademoiselle (remember that one? I LOVED that one!), Self, all the women's mags like Ladies' Home Journal and Redbook because they had fashion pages and loads of advertising as well, and even 'Teen and Seventeen although I'd aged out of those by the late 70s. Partly, in my case, because working in a drugstore you needed to know about all the new products to keep up with things in the cosmetics and personal care departments. But mostly, to be honest, because I just loved sitting at the soda fountain on my lunch break, avidly flipping through the glossy pages in search of that perfect outfit or hairstyle or makeup product that would change my life forever. Of course, that never happened, but I do miss that little thrill of hope that this shampoo, that perfect pair of jeans, would make it all happen for me. I continued reading a few of the fashion magazines well into the 90s, Glamour and Mademoiselle mostly (until Mademoiselle ceased publication), despite marriage and children, because it was fun to keep up with things and also to have something else to think about besides diapers and laundry! LOL. And then I drifted away from them and discovered a few years ago that they've all disappeared from the newsstands. Broke my heart. No more 'back to school' issues of Seventeen, no more 'Top 10 Women' issues of Glamour, no more December issues of EVERY magazine full of 'Great Gift Ideas For Everyone On Your List!' I love the internet... but it's just not the same as sitting down with a stack of mags and a cup of tea, ready to learn how to give myself a makeover for the umpteenth time!😥

Fashion magazines are responsible for so many early insecurities in girls and long-term insecurities in women that despite offering inspiration to fashion and style lovers, I think generally we're better off without them. At the very least, specialized style mags that don't include dieting tips would be a step in the right direction.

It's worth mentioning the heavy advertising within these magazines that always targets and creates insecurities more than desires in women and girls. Maybe it's different today. I wouldn't know, I haven't bought one in a decade, but the ads I did see as a teen had a lasting impact.

The Bratz tv show made me want to write for a magazine. One of the Lil Bratz activity books I had in the fifth grade was very writing heavy, so I wrote an article about Demi Lovato's acting career inside it. (I used IMDB as a resource.) About a year later, I made my own magazine on the family computer. I even printed it out as a gift for my sister when she graduated from college. I started collecting copies of Seventeen and even got a digital subscription in the eighth grade.

I’m 23 and a hard news journalist. I’ve always loved fashion and lifestyle mags and just got a subscription to Elle. I’m a firm believer print won’t die as we see physical media becoming overwhelming trendy (records, Polaroids, etc) but I do think an up trend needs to start faster

This lip colour on Mina is absolutely *e v e r y t h i n g*

Mina's struggles with random French terms has become one of her signatures I'm obsessed

You hit the nail on the head - there is no longer anything revolutionary about them. They used to set trends and give exclusive insight into the fashion industry that you couldn't get by just watching the news or turning to social media. Those days are just so far behind us.

What a coincidence. Last night I was googling body-positive fashion magazines for my tween stepdaughter. She’s really into fashion, and I remember loving those fashion magazines at her age, but I also remember how damaging they were to my body image.

Fashion magazines were genuinely such a big part of my life as a teen and it’s so sad that they’re just gone.

Fashion wasn't interesting to me till some Mina Le came up with a channel that includes history of fashion 💜

I think kids nowadays switched from wanting to work for a fashion company or a model to being a fashion influencer or creating their own brand online. Honestly a way better aspiration than working for a corporate company

I 100% agreed with everything you said here. I worked as a fashion writer in the Middle East in the 2010s and it's a toxic advertorial industry. I switched to hard news and politics and then to local news in the US (mainly crime) at various digital outlets. Fact checking is a serious issue across the board. I noticed this problem when I was working in Cairo and an international outlet stole my work verbatum (I sourced stories from eyewitnesses and court records I exclusively obtained, so it was impossible for that outlet to have the same information). The editor later admitted to taking my work and laughed about it with my then boss at a public gathering, and then he had the gaul to encourage me to apply to his company. On the application it said the outlet "does not have fact checkers or translators on staff"...while hunting around for other opportunities, I soon learned that most news outlets (FP, FA, Economist, Reuters, and many, many more) do zero fact-checking whether publicly noted or otherwise claimed. Now (mostly) happily covering local news, I dig for court documents, witness statements, and speak to the lawyers and authorities involved on my own because I want my readers to have the quality they deserve-- but I often experience a back lash because traditional TV news websites consistantly are twisting up stories to match the angle of the owners of the station-- then redditors (and sometimes it feels like all of the social media) are convinced I must have it wrong because my information is different and more detailed (which for some reason people think that means you are lying (seriously why would I make up a DUI on a stranger I've never met)). I am the one who did the work ,while ABC/NBC/CBS just stood in front of a house and spoke with a neighbor that had no factual information and then they act surprised when the field reporter shares the charges without the key details (I worked in broadcast for a few years too and walked away from an opportunity at CNN during the height of the pandemic due to some of this BS). The lack of fact-checking and real reporting has unfortunately trained the majority of the public to shoot the messanger, not ask the important questions, and blindly trust major outlets. I love writing and searching for fascinating stories but these issues aren't going away and AI is only complicating things.

I'm so glad you brought up the Refinery29 "Money Diary" articles. When someone in my city did theirs, I was very annoyed because I could tell there was more to the story regarding her budget. And I got a lot of hate in the comments for expressing my concerns. I said her life doesn't reflect on the average persons life in my city. The original subject later admitted to me in the comments that yes her parents paid for her condo and her lifestyle and that the article did not fully reflect her budget. That's when I was done reading them. If you're not going to be truthful, why continue to dupe people into believing they could have a similar experience in whatever city the subject is in? No hate to anyone whose parents help them. I just wanted it to be stated in the article and it wasn't. Just like that one Nina featured.

♥️ I love this subject as a former obsessed magazine purchaser. As everything’s online/digital now. We can now buy and view fashion etc, instantly on our devices. Magazines just seem overpriced even the glossy magazines like Vogue haven’t interested me in years, (literally 85% advertisements and very little “original fashion content”) they feel dated and passé to me now. I can’t remember when I last bought a fashion magazine! I used to be so obsessed with them and spent so much money on them monthly/weekly. Even buying international issues! I don’t even glance at the magazine aisle/section anymore.

as a kid i saw "Almost Famous" on TV and it made me interested in becoming a music magazine writer for the longest time, but just like fashion magazines, they're dying out because of the internet, too :/ niche, specialised music magazines seem to still be able to survive in print form thus far, though, which is very interesting, but i always assume it's because the target audience for those is an older generation that doesn't spend that much time online. plus they can offer specialised knowledge that's harder to come by online if you don't want to do long searches. it's so sad that print is dying in this way though, even just for archival purposes: online articles and their accompanying photos can disappear so quickly, never to be found again, whereas a print magazine might still be lying around in some library or your grandma's house many, many years later. a print magazine issue can be such a valuable time capsule of the zeitgeist of its period. but that's starting to get lost in the ocean of the internet

I think the modern fashion magazine job for me morphed mores into wanting to have my own self published magazine. Magazines in the west have alienated their market by continuing to pump out bad content that's kind of general. I feel like if magazines got as niche as the market for them is now, then they'd be more enjoyable. For example how in Japan there are punk magazines, and magazines dedicated to larme kei, etc etc.

This makes me so sad 😢 My mum and I always read fashion magazines together. It’s a whole experience. Every time we go on a flight, we buy a fashion magazine to read. I hate the death of this tradition

The only fashion mag I ever really bought into was Seventeen in the early 2000s. The editor's name was Atoosa and I could tell she made efforts to really make it more than just a fashion mag. There would be in depth articles from teen girls about their experiences with issues like sexual assault, bullying etc. Then she left and those articles went away. It became so boring cause every page was just a clothes/makeup ad.

When I was a kid the first job I ever wanted was to be a wedding dress designer. This was because my mom liked watching say yes to the dress a lot.

The only "fashion" magazines I buy these days are knitting magazines, and it's as you said - some of these magazines really understand the importance of making the whole experience feel luxurious. The fancy yarns, the chic knitwear designers, the classy serif typeface, the beautiful matte paper stock... I have no intention of knitting every single pattern included in these publications, but I just like buying them and looking at the pretty pictures.

I love the idea of a magazine in a classical sense, featuring real articles, essays, opinions and just generally more substantial work rather than just ads, quizzes and celebrity interviews.

i’ve always wanted to go into magazines whether that’s editing or writing for them but i think it has been sold to me as something unattainable which dampened my desire to work in the industry

i'm a 16 year old and i want to become a graphic designer, so i definetely wouldn't be against working for a fashion magazine... At some point i thought it was the dream job (and i still kind of do) as i not only love fashion and the arts as a whole, but i also love 2000s movies like the devil wears prada and 13 going on 30. These movies definetely made me more fond of the idea of having such a job. I can't imagine anything better than working in an environment full of creative ppl

I work as a writer for an advertising agency and specialize in editorial, print and online. It‘s interesting how fashion magazines have declined in quality, yet every printed magazine I write for a customer has increased the visual quality as well as the fact checking. Print always seems much more serious than digital magazines, since you can’t correct anything after publishing. Sure, I also dreamed about a Carrie-Bradshaw-life when I was a teen. When I entered journalism I quickly became disenchanted. Most publications are relatively cheap nowadays, especially here in Germany. Big brands take footage of their American campaigns and will have texts and claims translated. It‘s a pity.

What a relatable video topic. I’m actually a librarian and my supervisor and I have been fascinated by the death of the magazine over the past few years. Especially magazines geared toward women that cover things like fashion and lifestyle topics. We often talk about the possible causes, including, as you mentioned, the fact that a lot of that information is online now. Not only that but the experience of casually flipping through a magazine and reading an article here and there is similar to scrolling. So not only are you getting the information you’re looking for, but it’s also fulfilling another need. Both of us used to be big magazine readers and don’t really touch them anymore.

I'm 17 and I've always wanted to work for a fashion magazine or anything in fashion! Mostly because of Devil Wears Prada and 13 Going On 30💗

I think the concept has now gone into fashion vlogs. For instance, IMO, your content is the now version of what fashion magazines were in that late 90s early 2000s era. Also, love your style in this video!! Hair, make up, dress. All on point! 💝

Ugly Betty made me want to be a fashion assistant and have an egomaniac boss sooo bad lmao

I also like magazines, especially because you can clearly see how much effort it takes to create it. I adore all these printed fashion shootings, creative styling and storytelling. And it’s much more inspiring than just scrolling your feed.

In high school, I would grab the latest issue of Vogue or Bazaar at the library and sit on the aisle floor just devouring everything. This was the mid to late 70s, so there was a lot going on. One time, Vogue ran an issue about different body types (larger sizes not included, sadly) and basic principles of dressing well that has stuck with me all these years. I'm old enough and confident enough to break a lot of their rules now, but the concepts were good; most RU-vid style gurus echo them. These magazines also instilled a love of certain colors, textures, and fabrics that still influences what I wear.

I used to have a subscription to seventeen and teen vogue (early-mid 2010s). I looked forward to getting those and catalogs all the time! Something about having something tangible to read is just so different than just online shopping.

i agree with the final thoughts, it would be so cool to have a magazine to help us ponder, be provoked by ideas and something that’s also fun and beautiful to look at. slow reading because that’s something that doesn’t happen as often anymore

Related to why I used to love fashion magazines. The ads. Each ad was creative and stylish and I loved ripping them up and making scrapbooks of them. I did not mind the ads because I wanted the pictures anyways. Now, the smaller magazines with fewer ads don’t attract me anymore. Ironic, huh?

So fascinating to see the industry grow (and kind of die) with the changing times. On another note, I love Mina's transparency with how the 'trending topic' culture has impacted how she approaches her own content. It's a real struggle that content creators, writers, editors, and even producers/directors face when battling what is popular versus what they really want to create or discuss.

AGHHH I was waiting for someone to talk about this forever. Early 2000’s had the craziest magazines and I feel like to this day it’s one of the many reasons that attributed to my eating disorders in middle school. I’m glad they died

As someone born in 1992, magazines were a huge part of my life growing up. It started when my aunts brought back American Girl magazines from the US. I then loved Candy magazine (a Philippine teen mag from before), Seventeen (both US and PH versions), Vogue, Teen Vogue, Instyle, and even Lucky! Sad to see how much has changed from before. :(

I used to grow up with fashion and teen magazinesーincluding women lifestyle magazines until it's stop producing it around early 2013 in my country. Maybe it's because i'm getting too old but, personally, i feel less awkward reading magazines in a traditional form ( book style one with pages ) rather than online magazines. Every pages make me flips some more, while magazine by scrolling makes me bored quick.

omg, finally someone else acknowledges how amazing the costumes and aesthetic was in “down with love”! i love that movie and i’m always surprised that it doesn’t get more love. it was always my dream to work for a fashion magazine.

I'm a straight cis man, and my fiance turned me on to your videos. Never thought I'd find things like this interesting, but I'm really starting to really like learning about fashion and all the topics you cover in your videos! Thanks for all your hard work! Can't wait for the next vid

as a alumni of the NC State Wilson College of Textiles, I started to tear up when you mentioned a quote from them... such an amazing textile school that deserves sooo much more recognition in the fashion atmosphere :')

this just makes me want to buy a magazine from the drugstore and lay on my bed with new nail polish while I pretend to read the articles, I miss the collection I used to have

oh my god i was so obsessed with teen vogue as a young teen…one time the editor in chief at the time amy astley commented on some of my ig pics of my art and said they were beautiful and i literally almost fainted. then when i got into food and cooking, my dream was to be a restaurant editor for bon appetit magazine. the death of the magazine really broke my teenage dreams 😥

bro can we please bring back fashion magazines. Like I know realistically they have no place in the market anymore, but nothing on the internet compares to the little collages of outfits, surprise free posters, fun little activities, styling advice, and cute graphics. Even as an early 2000s kid I remember begging my mom for those campy, brightly colored teen fashion mags and ripping out every page I liked to tape up on my wall. It's such a cathartic experience.

I personally like seeing the public gaining more power in terms of advertising and products but it’s still sad seeing something so traditional slowly die off

omgg a video from you is the best bday gift

Cutting out magazines to make my own collaged magazine was a favorite pastime

havent finished the video yet but im so glad ur tackling this!! also ur hair looks amazing

Love these historical videos so much! Also OBSESSED with you makeup!!

sometimes i feel like the only person who’s ever seen down with love. thank you for talking about such a cute and underrated film!💕

I was so taken aback by the eyebrows, I'm so used to seeing them high and thin that I nearly didn't recognize you

Regarding advertising - back in the 1970's, many times we would rush to get the magazines on the first day they were on sale in stores because those magazines were the only place to learn about new products. Unless you went to lots of different stores very frequently and just browsed and looked at everything on the shelves to find the new products, you weren't aware of everything new. Also, you wouldn't be aware of the details of the products or what benefits it was supposed to give you. While many beauty and grooming products and cosmetics were advertised on tv, there were even more that did not and you found out about them from magazines. Magazines were where you found a new shampoo or foundation or skin cream you wanted to try. We didn't have so much information available at anytime about anything like we do now, so it was exciting to find something new and then find a local store that carried it. Today we find out about new products within days of them being released and can read reviews and article after article before deciding if we want to buy it. If we decide to, then it's a few clicks and three days and it's on the doorstep. If it doesn't work, or we don't like it,then we can find a different product within the hour and start the process over. It's great that we have all this choice and information and ease of buying but I do feel like the excitement and search and just discovery of new things is something valuable that is lost to us now, and most likely doesn't even sound appealing to those that never went through that. The advertisements were one of the major things we bought the magazines for, because we knew they may have what we want and they had a ready made demographic eager to pay $2.95 every month just to see their new products on a half page ad. I also think fast fashion and the huge amount of constantly changing variety of new styles published every single day online also takes away the interest in seeing what the overall styles would be for the season. There are individual pieces of clothing that are popular now, and are copied by many brands, but there really isn't that overall look that is the promoted style for the season anymore. It does seem silly to think that's how it used to be, and maybe it's the nostalgia glasses that make me miss the whole thing, but I think I do. Thanks for this video,I really enjoyed it,and haven't thought about magazines like this in decades.

love the video as always! also I’m french and wanted to say that your prononciation of french is so cute! it’s extremely pleasing to see the effort you put in these words and expressions!

I worked for a major fashion monthly magazine in the late 80s, early 90s. The salary they paid barely covered rent, but as I needed to stay a size 0, not being able to afford food was the Ozempic of the era! I left because I realised that creativity was not exactly being encouraged but stifled to enable the hyper massification of fashion design They were late to the party of internet marketing anyway

Let’s not forget about LC from The Hills when she interned at Teen Vogue. “You’ll always be known as the girl who didn’t go to Paris.”

Mina! This is such a great analysis! You go into so many factors and don't simply rely on "internet bad". I loved it!

thoughtfully structured and incredibly informative as always 🫶🏼 absolutely beautiful episode

As always, Mina, you deliver! My major in College was in Media because I wanted to work in advertising or radio. This is all fascinating to me. Growing up in the 90s, print media / entertainment will always have a special place in my heart.

Mina I am binge watching your videos and they just bring me such peace. I keep them on while doing things. Your analysis is insightful without being overly dramatic or hyped up, and your voice is soothing to hear. Thank you for your vids and the work you put into them!

I’m loving this editing style!

Love that you brought up down with love!! The costumes, early Sarah Paulson, Niles, the levity. It's such an easy watch.

this is such an interesting topic bcs i always forget about how much print magazines use to have an impact on my life when i was a kid. when i was like 10 and younger i couldn't wait to get my american girl doll magazine or my hi-5 magazine which had fun puzzles and quizzes. i also remember being in the grocery store and looking at the tabloids on the shelf. tbh i think the only in print magazine i'd be willing to buy now these days is Time bcs I feel like they actually put in the work to make a good print issue! Wonderful video as always!

Social media occupies so much of the space that magazines used to. I used to love opening up a teen vougue or nylon magazine but with the rise of fast changing aesthetics amplified by social media it seems that fashion magazines are no longer as useful. You can curate your own fashion experience through the internet and instantly know what’s trending. magazines were already not very useful when I was in highschool years ago so i’m not surprised to see them further declining.

your videos bring so much joy into my life thank you!!!

this is my favorite vid of yours so far !!

I wonder about magazines that feature kpop idols on the cover. A lot of fans buy the magazines to collect if they have their favorites featured.

I didn't know that Seventeen magazine stopped being published on paper. I collected both the US and my country's local edition for a few years in my twenties, and loved the editorial fashion sprees with diverse girls.

how perfect that i was just thinking abt watching one of ur videos and i open youtube to see you’ve posted one and it showed up on my fyp

so happy you mentioned down with love!!! one of my absolute favorite films ever!!!!! ❤

I LOVE Down with Love! I love the early 60's fashion sense! And the actors totally fit their roles!

oh my god, yes!! i wanted to become a fashion editor ever since i saw 13 going on 30 when i was 15 😿 this was on point!!

OMG Im soooo glad you mentioned Down with Love! I love that movie!

So excited for your podcast! Tbh I’m not rly a fashion girlie but I love listening to you and your takes. like idc what the topic is, I’m sat. Happy to see you exploring stuff outside RU-vid

I'm 17 and i love your videos... Major inspiration.. and yes i want to become a fashion editor and fashion journalist

I’m almost 29, a millennial, and I remember wanting to be an editor at a magazine when I was younger 🥰

you look especially gorgeous here oml

this new look is so gorgeous on you! and great content as always but i just had to say the new eyebrows are just angelic

never been so earlyy! slayed as always Mina!!!

magazine editor was my dream job as a kid! i loved the art and would cut out clippings to use as poster or keep them in my journal and even now i prefer the tactility of it to digital magazines. i'm currently a college sophomore studying communication and definitely have to pivot to focus more on digital content (learning html, ui/ux) or even other mediums like podcasts since that where the industry is at now

the video was great as always I loved learning about the history of fashion magazines, but also was very randomly thrilled to hear you mention down with love. no one EVER talks about that movie and it's so much fun!! I'm always surprised at how few people know about it

Literally can’t wait to listen to the podcast episode that goes with this!

Mina I LOVE your makeup so much today it looks SOOO good🤎

Freeform used to do a series called "The Bold Type" (2017), about 3 girls who work in a fashion magazine, and I think it really is a modernized version of the idea of the fashion editor. They do talk about their roll in bigger issues, and how the internet changes the industry. Highly recommend.

I absolutely love the way you drew your brows in this video! It looks stunning on you!

Just came here to say your podcast is such a joy to listen! 💖

Fashion and other women oriented magazines amongst other media were and are still instrumental in promoting Eurocentric beauty standards, unattainable beauty, eating disorders, low self esteem and body dysmorphia. The war of attrition against women is so widespread, unfortunately.

i’m early gen z and i definitely thought being something along the lines of fashion editor was super cool when i was younger. i still think magazines are cool (i currently work for one as a designer but it’s art and culture as opposed to fashion). i’ve talked to some younger gen z and kids and i swear the most common career goal i hear is “youtuber” “influencer” and “gamer” 😭

I very much appreciate the nuance you're bringing to this discussion I can remember as a young person thumbing through fashion magazines, and it was a safe way to explore my personal style, so thank you for for talking about this. It's unfortunate that they won't change with their audience

Your eye makeup looks gorgeous!!!