For the technology at the time, they did the best they could. Using real babies as the base for the cgi. It’s almost impossible to recreate a mature-thinking baby with a real one as they don’t follow eye cues and all that other stuff that needed to be shown.
@@spaceyjayce uh then why do the wolves look damn good and also uh 2009 avatar did you forget that exists and plants of the apes. Yah stop making excuse it wasn't made in 1990
Valeria Chavez well, he had to bite through Bella’s belly to get renesmee out before she dies since the placenta detached. I believe Nessie was also biting through Bella/
It wasn't supposed to be like that. Since they don't know why imprinting happens, I always thought when I was younger that it was to keep a bit of humanity in wolves so they don't succumb to their instincts. Although Smeyer have hinted about romantic feelings, even when the imprintee is a child, and I hate it
Yea i have to agree. Like WTF would happen if Bella choose Jacob and had his kid? Like ik impriting is like a combination of all the love of every person. Like father brother then lover. So okay Jacob loveing Edward and Bellas baby on that end isend so creepy..... But what if it was HIS baby with Bella bc she chose him??? Did Stephen Myer not think that through
Someone brought this up somewhere (tumblr, I think?) If Jacob was so drawn to Bella because she carried the egg that would one day birth Renesmee; why wasn't he lusting after Edward, as well (as he contained the venom sperm that made the other half of his future child bride?)
Ok I was willing to think Jacob imprinting on renesme the moment she was born and he looked into her eyes was him loving her as a brother and protector and later on in a romantic way only after she was an adult...but the bracelet being given to her her 1st christmas and it being the equivalent of a promise ring is just plain creepy and predator grooming weird. Sorry but cant shake that or accept as ok 😣
It’s explained in the book and movie that when someone imprints on a child it’s more like they feel the need protect them and be a caretaker/friend. It is only when they are older that the wolves develop romantic feelings.
@@patriciasouza4297 again I thought it was foreshadowing for another part of their story. Which you are obviously more versed in than I. Not some creepy grooming technic. As not a fan to a fan I didn't see it as wrong but I understood those who saw it could be wrong.i just don't think the movie portrayed it as wrong. I'm on your side in this.
so if renesmee had a child with Jacob they would have a werewolf, vampire, and human child.... Edit: and if that were to happen the volturi and the native tribes who have conflict with each other 😭 sounds like another movie on its way ;)
No, actually, there is this fan book in which this topic was brought out. If their baby is a girl so genetically mom's genes will be stronger, which means she would be a human half vampire; in case it is a boy, the father's genes will be stronger so it will be a werewolf. In both cases those baby's will be able to have children that will inherit this information, making it possible to continue the lineage from both Reneesme and Jacob. Gutiérrez, Támara (2010) Despertar. Safe creative.
@@Emy8A1 As much as I agree with this, as you said it’s only a fan book. There’s many different things that could be connected with this and have different outcomes.
Well, after seeing Jacob strip down and turn into a wolf right in front of his eyes, I think Charllie just accepted there's some weird shit going down with the Cullens/Blacks and just opted not to question any weird shit he sees (including the amazing aging infant). Charlie has thoroughly embraced the concept of plausible deniability.
So she's fully grown by 7 but has the body of a 17 year old... and Jacob is waiting for her to be of age to be with her... and Bella was ok with it... makes sense 😂😂😂
she matures by 7 years. she grows way faster because she's half vampire. Not that she has the mind of a year old. She's very smart because she's half vampire.
It’s explained in the book and movie that when someone imprints on a child it’s more like they feel the need protect them and be a caretaker/friend. It is only when they are older that the wolves develop romantic feelings.
hopeless heathen ... yeah but why did she put edward and jacob together like that. If she loved jacob like a brother, she should have called it Charlie Jacob, or smth. Calling it Edward Jacob is quite untasteful, after knowing that Jacob and Edward are both in love with her. She is not an idiot nor a child. That is just a dumb name
Alex Chen well not really a werewolf but part shifter. There was some questioning though on whether she could actually reproduce though since vampires can't and she is part vampire.
Renesmee's middle name is Carlie not Carlisle, Bella mixed Charlie and Carlisle's names to make the name Carlie, it's the same as when Bella made up the name Renamee, Reneé and Esme
@@SofiaBerruxSubs She's an "adult" at the age of 7. Jacob is around and doting on her from birth morphing from a brotherly to romantic relationship, Thats called Grooming, gaining a minors trust so they "consent" to a sexual relationship.
No, what's problematic and icky is how Jacob used to be in love with her mother and since he can have her, he ends up imprinting on her newborn daughter. I mean his imprint/future love is the daughter of the girl he used to be in love with. Eww!
I am so mad that Reneesme didnt get to have a childhood, IT would have been so cute. Also Like she has No personality which IS really annoying...Like Stephanie wtf ?
While neither pairing bothers me personally, I don’t understand why so many of you are grossed out by Jacob’s imprinting on Renesmee, but you totally accept Bella and Edward. When they met, Edward was 108 while Bella was 17. The only reason you accept it is because Edward looks young. He is not. He has had over a hundred years of life and experiences. Although, Jacob has imprinted on Renesmee he doesn’t see her in a romantic way. Yes, he will as she grows older, but not at the time of the story. And, he is not the first to imprint on a child. Imprinting means that Jacob will be whatever Renesmee needs most appropriate to her age.
This is the comment tbh, also in general stop putting human psychology into the supernatural world. These are vampires and werewolves we're talking about not real people
Tiara Averhart Psychology is a broad and interesting field. It even examines animal behavior, not just humans. The book was written by a real person who created these characters. Why shouldn’t we use it to examine fictional characters? Classes are conducted on it, there are hundreds of videos on RU-vid by actual Psychologists about the psychology of Harry Potter, Twilight, The Hunger Games, Star Wars etc. Besides, it’s not up to you what people can discuss and what they can’t. You can be closed to ideas for sure, but that’s your choice. Don’t impose on others.
It’s just because she is a baby, and that creeps people out. It’s totally understandable. When Edward meets Bella she’s already a young woman, where as imprinting for the tribe can happen as we see, when they are infants. People get protective of children and because it’s impossible to imagine a caregiver becoming a lover- because that’s not how human psychology works- the concept is disturbing. As you say, human logic isn’t compatible with supernatural ideas. So devil’s advocate and all, I can see both arguments as valid.
Both situations are ENTIRELY different. Edward may be centuries old but he stopped aging in his teenage years. He is forever a teenager, frozen in that maturity stage of when he turned. He met Bella when she was also a teenager, so it boils down to two teens being drawn and attracted to each other. Take away the vampire aspect and its pretty normal. Jacob and Renesme are gross because she is GROOMED to become his mate. He meets her when she is a child and they form a sibling-like relationship. To view someone as a baby sister and then want her sexually is a bit disturbing. Think about if in her tweens a random boy her age has a crush on her-would Jacob be protective like a brother or be jealous like a lover? Its yikes.
Elfaro A real life example of a caregiver figure becoming a lover would be the case of Céline Dion and her husband. He was her manager from the age of 9. She was the one who pursued him when she was 18. I’m not exactly sure of their age difference but I’m guessing it was 20+ years. So, it’s not impossible, per se. Human psychology, or psychology in general is very malleable. There are no absolutes where behavior is concerned. It’s what makes the study of psychology so fascinating. It’s rather fascinating to me that people have such strong reactions to something that is entirely explainable within the worldview of Twilight. The thing people don’t seem to get is that Jacob didn’t choose Renesmee, nor is he some kind of child predator. But he’s being painted as one because of something that was out of his control.
Man I would love if Stephanie Myers would ride another twilight book based off of Renesmee point of view or Jacob's or Leia clear waters. Please let me know if I spelled renesmee's name incorrectly.
You spelled Renesmee right ^^. I personally think Nessie's POV would be more interesting, since we know she ends up with Jacob, I want to see how everything would turn out. But what *I* want is Alice and Jasper to have their own story. They're so cute together!
@@mickelypickely26 ooh! Search up on YT The Storytellers: The new Voices of The Twlight Saga. There you will find every persons backstory that’s wasn’t told in the movies, I’m pretty sure it is canon as Stephanie Meyer worked with them :)
THANK YOU! It’s explained in the book and movie that when someone imprints on a child it’s more like they feel the need protect them and be a caretaker/friend. It is only when they are older that the wolves develop romantic feelings.
@@perneshiatillman7889 actually yess... She was so happy when Seth came in middle of Bella's spring. She never wanted Jacob hurt and Bella used that line (he was hers and she was possessive).. I really ship Jacob with ADULT OR GROWNUP Renesmee
Yes! Also, if Renesme decides to not return his feelings, he will continue to be there for her as whatever she needs. He might even encourage her to do so to get “other human experiences “ such as Edward did with Bella. But we all know they’ll end up together which is great
@@greciamedero2808 Just imagine half Vamp and Half Wolf Love Story. They gonna write History. And they gonna bring change In past History of Wolves and Vampires. And let's not forget becoz of Imprint becoz of Renecob Wolves and Vampires came together in the end of BD to defend Renesmee infront of Aro.
Did you guys forget that Jacob deadass asked Edward if he should call him "dad"? Regardless of whether it was played off as a joke or not, Jacob was already thinking about the romantic aspect when Renesmee was a literal toddler so no, it's not just a caretaker thing, it's a creepy grooming thing. Just imagine the perspective of a young girl, who has this hot young man devoted to her in every way since her birth. Everybody gets puppy love (no pun intended), it wouldn't be surprising if tween Renesmee had a crush on Jacob and what would Jacob do at that time? Calmly explain to her that her feelings are misguided or enable her because he'll be wHaTevEr sHe WanTs hiM tO bE? As for Edwards situation, it's literally impossible for him not to be affected by the passing years of experience, and him referring to his classmates as children is already a good indication of his mindset so yes, he understands that he's much older than Bella even if he does look like a teen so yes, it's creepy, but it's creepy in a different way from Jacob's situation because he didn't meet Bella as a literal toddler. His situation is more like a 60 y.o man falling in love with a teen, while in Jacob's case, he met Renesmee when she was several hours long and already started to think about his future with her. If you don't believe that, are there cases of imprinting in the book that only involves a platonic relationship between the wolf and somebody they imprinted on?
In human world it's creepy and that's why Bella still thinking like a human, throws him out. But if you know anything about imprinting, it's not by choice. It's a supernatural thing that happens without any warning and the imprinted ones might not even like each other. It's like destiny. Involuntary.
I was _SO SHOCKED_ when I got the notification for this video. I legit thought this was an Avatar themed channel. At first I was confused when I saw the name "Renesmee". I was like, "was there actually a character named 'Renesmee' in Avatar??" Then I saw the last name, 'Cullen' and realized, "Oh wait... Twilight!"
It’s explained in the book and movie that when someone imprints on a child it’s more like they feel the need protect them and be a caretaker/friend. It is only when they are older that the wolves develop romantic feelings.
Guys the imprint isn’t sexual at all NO! Jacob isn’t in love with Esme 💀 he just has a strong desire to protect her just Because you imprint on someone doesn’t always mean your in love stop making it weird-
Honnestly having the whole Bella's pregnancy part in the book be from Jacob's point of view was SOO refreshing. I remember actually cheering when I saw his point of view for the first time. It was definitely the highlight of the 4 novels imo. then the imprinting happened and honnestly it kind of ruined Jacob's character for me. I wish imprinting didn't need to become a romantic relationship in the future, it would make things better. Plus if it didn't Jacob could have ended up with Leah Clearwater which for me should have been his happy ending : A brotherly bound with Renesmee, finally a healthy friendship with Bella, and even one with Edward, a dynamic friendship with Rosalie (even though they would pretend to hate each other), a kinda second family with the Cullen, co-working with the Sam's pack & an even cloder bound with Seth as his brother-in-law. THIS is what Jacob deserved.
But that would make the book have no flavor.The only reason novels like Twilight are popular is because everything doesn't end up great for everyone.If it did the story wouldn't be half as good as it actually is.I do like the idea of Leah clearwater with Jacob tho-I just kinda wish they had there own saga tbh.I Personally don't think in any universe his realtionship with bella or edward would be that healthy if jacob has to be there.Deep down Jacob has a special spot for bella that you can't just get rid of,and renesmee is a whole different story,the fact that imprinted on her which honestly i don't see that weird at all because its a protecter/caregiver thing and they dont always end up devolping feelings.Althought the cullens and Wolfs have been on a good peacful truce for a bit there is absoulutley no way They could be like a second family with each other.There seperated for a reason,and the truce always has a limit.The smell of vampires will never be normal to werewolves,blood will never appeal to werewolves,House dont work for wolfs either.Its just not all that practical.Honestly rosalie and Jacob would be a iconic duo,but rosalie is way to prestigous and polished for that lmao
It doesn’t have to end romantically! It’s just what happens to most imprinted pairs. He will be what ever she needs him to be. Family, Friend or Lover. Only one of the options romantic…
@@br00ke11 I would say Edward Jacob sounds better but considering that she was planning on naming the kid after two guys who she just can make up her mind with who she wants....yeah I have to say that EJ and Renesmee are both pretty terrible baby names.
Since Stephanie Meyer is still working and just released Midnight Sun, I still hoping she writes a new saga based on Rennesme and Jacob, how the quileutes will accept her, the vulturis still watching their steps, how she will develop her gift, etc.
Yeah true, I don’t understand why stephanie won’t expand the twilight universe more even to the point where we can eventually see the vulturies final battle and them falling
Because his blood and organs still work and are technically preserved at the time he was turned so if he ‘ ‘let loose’ she would be pregnant because when she got pregnant she was still human
Actually the vampires in Twilight are ‘frozen’ in time. Not technically dead. So his sperm is essentially frozen inside of him, thus he can get a human female pregnant. It’s Bella’s human gene of growth that sort of “breaks” the genetic make up of vampirism so it has to allow for growth. And since the vampires don’t age -but are extremely fast, a hybrid’s growth is rapid. Hence why Renesmee goes from a newborn to a seven year old in a matter of weeks. And will eventually stop growing all together. She is unique among the vampires because unlike them (their frozen at they age they turn, they can’t learn more than say a 14, 20 or 30 year old ever can) developmentally she won’t stop aging until actually seven years old, when she will be about eighteen, maybe even older. She can learn far more than an eighteen year old ever will because she has the mental clarity and long term memory of a vampire before she even physically becomes like one.
@EMILY TINEO No I’m pretty sure it is blood. Edward tells us it’s used in some inexplicable way, and makes his muscles contract and relaxe for use of motion. So he actually can.
It’s explained in the book and movie that when someone imprints on a child it’s more like they feel the need protect them and be a caretaker/friend. It is only when they are older that the wolves develop romantic feelings.
@@bruhidk3069 HOW LMFAO. its like growing up with a childhood friend? or lets say my best friends older brother. You grow up around them and they feel the need to protect you since you are basically apart of their family yknow? Then you could develop feelings.
That is so sweet when Edward finds out Renesme loves her parents. And Bella only stops moving after her baby's birth. Both because of the injuries and the morphine.
@@adrianawilliams4810 Probably just a sketchy memory. I'm surprised I remember it myself. Probably because I found it so horrifying it was seared into my memory. You know how heartache can be translated into physical pain sometimes? That's the sort of pain Meyer is talking about in her lore. It even further illustrates how disgusting imprinting is for both parties. She apparently didn't get the memo that mutual consent is sexy and healthy and wholesome
I find Jacob's imprint on Renesmee super creepy I mean what the heck can't have the mom go for the daughter. Jacob needs to just leave Edward alone first his wife then his daughter.
Although I don't like Renesme, not, because of like how other people are so sensitive with the whole imprinting thing but because her very existence seems like a cop out to justify the roll out for the rest of the plot. She's literally suppose to add this extra level of "perfection" to Edward and Bella's love story, bring the Cullen's and the wolf pack together and seemingly give the whole love triangle a happy ending for all parties. She just had way to much plot responsibility for such a last minute character. But regardless this was a good video.
I've never watched any of these movies, just stumbled across some of their short random clips that people uploaded to RU-vid. Yet, after watching this video the entire story made complete sense to me. So, yeah, this is definitely a well-made summary. Nice. Thanks.
It’s explained in the book and movie that when someone imprints on a child it’s more like they feel the need protect them and be a caretaker/friend. It is only when they are older that the wolves develop romantic feelings.
Ok so I don’t like it either but apparently she has the maturity of a 17 year old at 7 because of her species and stops aging at that time to and she also has the mentality of one to...
As Nessie and Jacob get older they fall in love but I'm sure that Jacob wasn't in love with her as a baby/child. As for the promise ring bracelet there are lots of things that could mean. I've given a promise ring to my best friend to show that no matter what I'll always be there for her whenever she needs me. Promise rings or other promise items don't have to be romantic.
People will never get this simple knowledge or logic. Their minds cannot be clean at all. Even I have given to one of my frnd that doesn't mean I m in love with him
The problem is Jacob will be romantically involved with renesmee when she's older so the promise ring is grooming. You won't be romantically involved with your best friend and that's the difference
A promise ring from a 16-year-old to a newborn baby, wow just wow. This is the definition of grooming " is when someone builds a relationship, trust and emotional connection with a child or young person so they can manipulate, exploit and abuse them. ... may also build a relationship with the young person's family or friends to make them seem trustworthy or authoritative." hmmmm something seems familiar... weird
A promise ring does not mean romantic,i gave one to my best friend am in love with her? Ofc not.Also imprintation isnt sexual,its a caregiver/protecter role not romantic until she is fully grow which will been when she is 7,but she will look like a 17 year old and have the mind and emotions of a fully grown adult who cna give consent
I hope Stephanie writes about Renesmee and Jacob next! I want to see Renesmees story and personality. With her as the narrator we’ll get to see so much! And honestly, I think it would be nice, once she’s of age, to end up with Jacob. That kid, he deserves a happy ending. Also, why do some people find it creepy with their relationship? Jacob, if he continues to phase, will cease aging and stay at the age of 17 just like Renesmee when she fully matures. Edward said Jacob has no sick intentions with her so the whole grooming Thing is clearly ruled out. So, if Edward and Bella can have a 90 year age gap, why is it so weird for Jacob and Renesmee to have a 17 year age gap? Just my thoughts.
It's not age that I have a problem with, what's my problem is that even though Jacob did imprint, it was on Bella's daughter, which means he is still tied to her, and quite frankly I just wish Stephanie Meyer would've just set Jacob free and have imprint on a normal human girl, like Angela, I liked her and I wished she was Jacob's imprint or the imprint of one of the other wolves.
@@juliemcintyre428 yeah, Angela is such a cute character! Love her. But for me, it wouldnt make sense for a main character like Jacob to imprint on a such a minor character like Angela. Him imprinting on renesmee completes the story and brings it full circle, even if it's the easy way out. Also, if he would have imprinted on a human he would eventually stop phasing so he could die with his imprintee. But since renesmee is immortal, jacob will continue phasing as a wolf and also be immortal. So they get to be together forever just like bella and edward do. Which I love! I dunno that's just me. But love your comment 💜
I think it’s creepy af since he’s known her since she was a baby and he was an adult BUT it’s just a fun book and I think imprinting in general is such a romantic and interesting concept so I’m not like offended by it
Jacob literally looks at Renesmee as child and asks Edward if he should consider him as a father-in-law. Like bruh. And most people who reasonable loathe this don't like Bella and Edward as well for the same reasons. Finally, the 17 year age gap only works if both people were fully fledged adults already, so like a 30 and 47 year old in a relationship would be okay. Renesmee may physically age quickly but her mental state will be that of a preteen and there is no way that is anything but pedophilia if she were to be with Jacob
People keep talking about the weirdness of Jacob imprinting on Rennesmee but most forget the pervy relationship between Edward and Bella. Edward was 107 years old clocking a 17 year old Bella and ultimately boot knocking her when she's 18 or 19 years old. So E-Cully is the R-Kelly of the Twilight zone.
Actually, it's actually true that they were hunting. But Renessme doesn't like their vegetarian diet. So she always tries to play around during that time. It's not explained in the movie, but it is in the book. So, I understand why its confusing
Jacob protecting her was fine to me until he said to Edward “Should I start calling you Dad?” Like he knows they’re gonna end up together that’s sick 😷
Yeah and everyone keeps defending Jacob over that. It would have been totally fine if him imprinting on her would have just ended in a brother/sister relationship, but they end up in a romantic relationship which is disgusting. Everyone says it's fine because he waited till she was older, when that's literally grooming. And is even weirder since she grew up with him and he watched her develop into a young woman. Like just Imagine if one of your parents friends was around and helped raise you your whole life, and ended up dating you by time you became the legal age. That's fuckin nasty. (Sorry I seem so serious, I've been sexually abused and everyone defending this behavior just sets me off)
Why did Stephanie Meyer put that in the book. Jacob is a grown man and Renesmee was an infant. Even the book and the movie was premoting pedophilia without saying it out loud. Obviously, he fell in love with a baby. A BABY. Like 2 hours after it popped out of his crush. “If i can’t have you, i’ll have your daughter” 🤢🤮 Disgusting. How did that get on the movie franchise. Did the director of this movie just “yeah. This doesn’t seem right but we’re gonna put it in the movie anyway and make pedophilia look innocent.” SMH.
She stops aging at 25...so older than her parents...ew. I personally think that she is a supervillain. She knew Jacob was going to attack her so she made him believe he imprinted on her, cause a shapeshifter/werewolf wouldn't imprint on a half vampire cause it wouldn't help carry on the line at all so him doing so on her makes no sense/simply ignored the lore involved. And had Renesmee got the chance to touch Aro she would have conquered the Volturi too. Alice 'doesn't learn' to see the 'shapeshifters' in her visions the movie just didn't believe in keeping continuity anymore.
@@emmajohnson6792 well if the internet says so, they never said it in the movie, maybe I'm thinking of the wolves stop at 25. sooo a 17 year old and a 25 year old dude.
@Mahailea Cartwright She HAS to be! I mean she makes you see shit in your head. How can a person with that power be good. It's just too much power for a child/anyone to have. But she is Mary sueing all over that crap.
Bruh..I never looked at Jacob imprinting on her as predator like I feel like it was more he imprinted on her as a guardian..after all you can imprint on someone in other ways than love..as its stated in the book
Well I guess there are many people who didn't got the meaning of Imprinting. Well you all find it weird I find it unique (never heard concept). And btw Jacob never had second or bad thoughts for Renesmee when she was child and even he didn't changed his thought after listening her maturity time (confirmed by Edward). And if Imprintee develop romantic feeling towards wolf than he will change his feelings. If she didn't feel anything romantic than that particular wolf will be Brother , frnd and Protector. There is a big difference between mate and Frnds or Brother. Simply read the books you will get the exact meaning of Imprinting. And the Vision scene is extra but it was Approved by author so may be she had good plans. And btw I will be finding it interesting to read about Renecob becoz their love story will be unique like Bellward. They will considered as the Unique and Amazing couple in Wolf and Vampire History. And for her Jacob is the best choice becoz he will never leave her, cheat on her etc etc. And btw Jacob will never force Renesmee for anything. That how Imprinting work. And from beginning Ness want Jacob and felt and wanted his present. Jacesmee or Renecob are really matchable couple. They are my dream couple , I ship them and want book about their story in Renesmee POV.
She'll write something about Renesmee and Jacob I'm sure of it. Wait till that Twilight $$$ starts dwindling. Isn't this the same woman who said she wouldn't write Midnight Sun? 🤨
She said that because the first draft of midnight sun was leaked and it devastated her so much that she decided not to release it until many years later.
I aint being picky but I swear they only have sex once, the rest is just a dream made up by bella. When she wakes up from the dream Edward thinks she's having a nightmare to which she responds along the lines of "No, it was just a dream... a really good dream"
But he will change his feelings according to Renesmee if she feels romantic. Finding Mate is the first rule of Imprint and than Brother , frnd and Protector relations come according to age of Imprintee
Renesme does not know what she did to her mom or how did her parents meet Welp sad for her Renesme: Mom how did you and dad meet? Bella: well I was a human before I turned into a vampire and we'll me and ur father met in high school and ur father kept holding his breathe and I thought he think I stank and then when ur father left me and said I was not good enough I was having depression and when ur father got worried he thought I was dead then he tried to kill himself so I had to run my way to save him and then we got married and that's all :) Renesme: uh I'll ask dad then- Renesme: Dad how did you and mom meet? Edward: well ur mother was humans and I liked her so much that I couldn't let jake steal her and um- I did some weird things in the past that you can't know till ur older :) Renesme: oh so I'm half mortal and why is a older man imprinted me even though I'm only a kid- isn't that illegal Edward: well I dont know Jake had a crush on ur mom and then he fell in love with u and imprinted on u and I still hate him :)
Idk, Im not trying to cause drama or be rude: but Jacob giving her a promise ring, aka: ring?, is just a little weird to me. Though the ring also might be a symbol of friendship/family love,but im not sure.
I don't know why it's like taboo or seems almost impossible to get a book in Jacobs perspective like come on!!! I mean come on we had Edwards we had Bella's it's J boy time!
Ash Mancheater yeah Ik that, but those were his inner thoughts about the love triangle situation in terms of the book it was kinda necessary for the plot I want a book where we get his perspective on more then just that, past or present.