Balón D’or is about best player for a team, meaning it actually focuses on the numerical and qualitative impact/contributions (goals, assists, chances created, etc) you make for your team and then whether or not that directly led to the team success. Haaland is a strict striker, a machine of goal scoring but he isn’t a playmaker, dribbler, etc. importantly he didn’t score a single goal or assist a goal in ANY of the finals he was in!!!!
@@darknebula455Journalists have more knowledge and credibly that you will ever have. That’s why your opinion is worthless and you are a nobody in sports.
@@darknebula455Coaches and Sports Analysts, players also voted Messi as the FIFA player of the year and they rejected Haaland. Again, there is a reason why you are a nobody in sports since you’re opinion is worthless.
imagine after this conversation a couple of hours later Messi scores a ridiculous vital free kick goal against ECUADOR. Craig should know , Messi will make you eat humble pie. Shaka Hislop ate humble pie lol. Messi is the best ever to put on a pair of football boots mate.
Messi deserves the Ballon d'or. He was so alive and impactful through out the WC. Haaland is a great goal scorer but was was totally out, ghost in the finals/semi. That's not the image of the best footballer this great game needs.
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeingsHaaland did NOT win Player of the Tournament at the Champions League. Why is that? Haaland is just a goal scorer, he is not a great player.
What kind of stupid comment is this? 'That's not the image of the best footballer of this great game needs'... What nonsense? So when Messi was ghost in the semi-final of the CL in 2010 and then went scoreless in the 2010 World Cup, was that the image of the best footballer? He did win the Ballon D'Or that year you know. I swear you guys never think before you talk. You just say what ever stupidity comes to your head. I'm not even saying Messi shouldn't win, but to say Haaland isn't the image of the best footballer is absurd. He's a phenomenal player.
If the balón D’or was just based on goals, Messi would have won wayyyyy more of them. There is also an award for most goals, it is called the golden boot!!!!
Yup give my sheep dwarf ballondor for rigged wc and scoring vs lowest ranked teams in Uber east "the drop out" fell out of top 5 leagues give my fifa boy ballondor fifa!!
@@joeldoe6420don't talk like Shameless Penaldog 🌵🐫 Camel Rider fangirl okk son ,, Messi is the Real FATHER of Allllllllllllllll shameless Penaldogs,, don't CRY like Morocco man or BTS Korean PENDU 🐫 cry7 😆
@@joeldoe6420 Bro, Haaland couldn't make it out of the 1st round of WC Qualifiers. Memphis also outscored him by a mile. Messi scored 18 goals in 14 games with 5 assists in Internationals and 21 goals and 21 assists for Club.
Wait, doesn't Craig have Maradona as the greatest football player of all time and Maradona is mainly known for the World Cup he had. Also, Pele is reveered for alot of things but also is mainly for having won the WC tournaments. And now he's saying that Messi doesn't deserve the Ballon'dor because its only the World Cup. Make it make sense. Messi will win because he had an AMAZING WC.
All of a sudden the World Cup became "a 7-game tournament" and "a 3-week tournament" for these delusional people 😂 The tournament that 2 billion people anticipate with joy every 4 years, the tournament that 170 countries fight to get to for 2, 2,5 years in the qualifiers, a trophy which every kid who has ever kicked a football dreams of lifting, now all of a sudden became a "small tournament" so that some people can justify their hatred for Messi. It just makes me laugh, like actually laugh out loud with how stupid some people can sound 😂😂😂
Why are we still saying that Messi's PSG campaign was bad? 21 goals and 20 assists winning Ligue 1(Top Assister) and French Supercup(MVP)... If you put the World Cup, being the Tournament's Best Player, on top... how can it even be a debate? The person who could take it for him it's Rodri who was Champion, Player of the Tournament and Final MVP for both Champions League and Nation's League. The rest? Haaland ghosted BAD on all the important matches and De Bruyne was horrible at the World Cup. I could se a debate in 2010 because none of Spain or Netherland's squad were the WC Golden Ball(It was Forlan), but here the champion was also the best player...
The season Messi had with PSG is only bad for Messi’s standards. Literally anybody else does the numbers he did and creates the amount of chances he does in any league, they’d be hailed as amazing, for example De Bruyne, I get he’s in a way more competitive league but if you look at his numbers alone, they’re not amazing, but he’s obviously a candidate for the award according to everyone, why isn’t he being asked for more assists and goals? Make it make sense..
@@barry2924in 2010, messi won it because that’s the first time since maradona people saw a player scored almost every goal by dribbling the whole team. Ao trophies dont event matter anymore
Messi is the most impactful player and helped his team single Handedly winning the World Cup. He is still dominating the MLS in US and he will continue do so. Just yesterday he scored a winning goal for his national team for Argentina and he is the only one who can do that. Holand couldn't perform well in all the semi and final matches, the trophies he won. Hence obviously Messi is the right choice and deserve the 2023 BELLON D'OR. ❤❤❤
Mr Graig said winning ballon d'or 4 weeks of tournament, he is wrong it's not 4 weeks but 4 years, you need to qualify n to win world cup it takes 4 years n most prestigious trophy in football history that's why every players have desire & dream to lifting the world cup but only few can achieve this dream
not to mention players train for years to get themselves ready for the world cup, it might to 4 weeks but it takes years of preparations for players and teams
35goals, 30Assist, FrenchSuperCup, League-I, Finalisima, WorldCup, Golden Ball, WorldCupSilverBoot, FIFABest, IFFHSplaymaker, LaureusSOTY GIVE THIS MAN THE D'OR ALREADY!!!
When you are talking about Erling Haaland's achivements... You can't ignore Kevin de bruyne, İlkay Gündoğan, Rodri, Bernardo Silva. They were all superb active, super performers in their own positions. They all deserves Ballon d'Or. They were a great team. So everyone of them have 20% chances to get Ballon d'Or. Haaland may have more than 30% chance ratio as a pure goal scorer. It is noticeable, he is PL top scorer. On the otherside when you are talking about Country & Club combined... Messi is the name you will get. MBappe was also great performer but unfortunately he didn't won WC. Leage 1, French cups are not enough when Haaland did same great performance as a Champions league winner. In PSG's last few matches Messi scored match deciding goals to ensure League 1 and French Cup. And He was the Golden Player of Fifa WC. I know all losers always find a way to hide their lacking and blame the winners saying rigged/favoured. But fortune favours the brave, honest, humble. You can keep your thought. For sure Messi is the one winning his 8th Ballon d'Or.
@@dashawnballard52 no way you are comparing de paul and enzo to anyone from city especially kdb, gundogan, silva, and rodri of all players. at least compare them to like foden or someone 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.
@@rockdude1122it's literally a national team which means they speak the same language. It's not that hard to organize whenever it's so. This was Haalands 1st year at City. While crybabies like yourself said give Messi time at PSG to fit in, Haaland came like he belonged and broke records. Get off of Messi meat bro. Champions league is literally teams buying the best stars out there and trying to put a team together to play others that did the exact same thing. National team games are like Sunday league games, unless you're not playing a power house. Which really isn't comparable, unless your France, Spain, Brazil and Argentina.
its about voters and voting. its biased subjectivity by the voters. 99% will give his vote to messi. i cant comprehend if someone said champions league better than wc. or wc just one month tourney. lol seriously look other balon dor winner that recieved the award because of world cup.
I'm astounded at Craig. I've been agreeing with him, about Mbappe and others. I thought he was brave enough to be critical and freely express his opinion. More than that I thought that he knew football. I'm completely disabused. To say that Haaland, as good as he is, with his 52 goals could possibly beat Messi for the Ballon d'or has made me doubt his knowledge of football and his judgment. In the first place, Haaland, who just waits for the ball that the wonderful playmaker Kevin De Bruyne passes to him could possibly equal much less surpass Messi who won the WC, leading his team throughout, governing each game and winning the golden ball for best player of the WC is amazing to me. Messi's goals are screamers, his passes are incomprehensible, his dribbles are magisterial. Almost all of Haaland's goals are in inside the box, only one outside the box. He also didn't come up with anything in the last 7 games of the UCL when the games were toughest. One defender could stop Haaland. Messi eats one defender or three for breakfast. I think KDB or Rodri deserves the Ballon d'or more than Haaland. Vinicius even contributes more. Haaland will probably win the Golden Boot, which is the one for the most goals. Come on, Craig. I thought you were better than that. I'm really really disappointed. The other thing is Messi is the GOAT. The likelihood that he is equalled much less surpassed is very small. So the parade won't stop.
Its okay tho, some people like thinking out of the box, I love messi he is the goat but I wont be disappointed by either decisions, if messi wins then its because he deserves it, if haaland wins then its bcos he deserves it.
@@ultimategamer8330because iniesta wasn’t spains best player or pott. griezman was also not player of the tournament. they also weren’t competing against a poacher like halaand but rather prime ronaldo and messi
@@ultimategamer8330so why alvarez shouldnt win over haaland bro? He had 4 trophies and also scored a brace in WC semis (unlike Haaland ghosting everywhere). Quadruple is everything, right?
World Cup tournament was the biggest competition among others competition in football sport so World Cup winner deserves to win any awards even when Andre Onana win the World Cup tournament with Cameroon he also deserves to winning the Ballon D'Or and no biased about it. 👌👌👌
Messi with 120 G/A didn't won UEFA the best -no one complained Messi with 58 goals in 2018 was 5th in Ballon D'or -no one complained Ronaldo being trophyless in 2013 won the Ballon D'or -no one complained When Messi is winning it for being the best World Cup player delivering one of the greatest campaigns of all time having most G/A in Europe at 36 age everyone has standards. Unreal obsession Price for being the greatest is unreal
World Cup is just a bigger competition than the EPL or even the CL. So for someone like Messi to win it then he automatically becomes the best player of the year
You people must be jealous a CITY player winning Ballon d'or but you know clearly that Haaland deserves it, you doubt him he can't score many goals as in the Germans league and he did it beyond expectations. Your team is in the PL but come to this of it since when did a PL player won the Ballon d'or, you people should be one minded to support your own but rather to think other ways and always Laliga is getting the fame
Messi has more goal contributions than Haaland and Mbappe. Also did it with less games. Many players have won the balón D’or solely because they won the World Cup….
2010 nobody in the Spanish team was a contender to win it. The Spanish people still cannot come to an agreement themselves between Iniesta or Xavi. And Xavi said it himself.... Messi deserved the Ballon d' Or 2010 he was the best.@@demonempire5963
@@joecordoba2449so you moving the goal post to fit the narrative, iniesta had a great World Cup like Messi . Secondly what about Neuer in 2014 he was great that year so you can’t pull that bs , so what about him then?
@@dashawnballard52 iniesta was great in the WC..But comparing to what Messi did in the last season is not fair..Messi has 64g+a,but Iniesta doesnt..He injured almost half of the season..Even Messi has more assists,chances created ,dribbles than him.. You have to be clear that when Messi won the ballondor he is not just a goalscorer,he is a complete player and clear every player in every individual stats..
La Liga , Copa, World Cup. Do you think Halland can do that in a short span of time. Halland , Mbappe and Ronaldo can control the ball and score many goals if they got lucky, but Messi can control the game , he can change the phase and defense of the opponent team. Thats how great messi is...
Haaland doesn't control the ball. Haaland sits in the box and waits for kdb to deliver it. That is what Haaland does, that is his role in the team. Could he do something more impressive? Perhaps but before that happens he shouldn't win the best player award. If the only stat that he is winning in is goals scored and he wins the best player award the trophy truly loses its meaning.
It might be disgrace to purity of ballandor if it is awarded to tap in goal scorer. World Cup is way more than all other tournaments in this world. Messi deserves this time.
I think Messi will definitely get it this year and after him and Jude Bellingham who's phenomenal in my opinion clears Haaland who can only perform in the presence of KDB 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 which is pretty sad
Let's be honest Messi should have 10 bal on dors by now he's been the best player most years regardless of what he's won, he's a special special player
Messi deserve the Balloon d'or. And in my own opinion I think we should shop comparing Messi with other players who only score goals he is more than a scorer... 2023 Balloon d'or he deserves it more than any other players who scored most goals with just a touch
I'm a Messi die hard fan but tell you what, I feel for Erling. Messi was just out of this world in the world cup, coupled by his achievements at club level. In time, everyone will look back and realise how astonishingly amazing Messi was to deserve the 8th Ballon D'Or. Hope Haaland wins one some day🎉❤️
Messi should win it for winning the World Cup. When I say wining the World Cup, there were 11 players in that team so why Messi? It is his sheer contribution to his team and how he lifted the team again and again in every match after the first initial loss. Imagine Argentina without Messi, you think they would have won the World Cup? Not a chance. His goals and assists and playmaking were crucial. Haaland with his tap-ins are not inspiring and he didn't score in any of the winning matches either. Messi is the greatest there is and as far he is playing, you can't look past him as a contender.
Very true, they were absolute pish v Mexico till he scored and settled everything, he's an incredible talent but alot must be said for his leadership in last few years with Argentina
Imagine some other player having the season Messi has at the age of 36yrs. The kind of performances he delivers is still insane. Not just about goals but the overall impacts he has in the game is still far ahead beyond any younger players in their prime. 42 goals, 26 assists. And we all know he's not only about stats. His style of play, dribbling, vision, everything is still great. Also having won the worldcup being the best player of the tournament is mind boggling. And people think he does not deserve the ballon d'or? We're just taking him for granted for being too good all the time.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he does. He won’t it in 2010 even though he crashed out in the group stage of the World Cup that same year. Now that he won the World Cup, no other talent on the planet could be considered beyond Messi. That 30 men short list came up with those responsible already aware that it’s Messi’s.
GANAR UN MUNDIAL ES MÉRITO DE LOS JUGADORES Y SU TÉCNICO QUE REPRESENTAN UN PAÍS , UN CAMPEÓN DE CHAMPIONS TIENE MUCHAS VECES LOS MEJORES ELEMENTOS DE DISTINTAS NACIONALIDADES .
If anytime Messi deserve to win Ballon D’or more than ever before, it is this year! And if he doesn’t win, it has to be fixed! There was no FIFA World Cup ever, that tested any individual player as 2022 Qatar tested Messi and he came out successful! Let us talk about next year, this year is done and dusted! Messi did a favor by moving out of Europe to allow others to have a chance to win in future, that is a great favor indeed. And R7 retired that paved way for others… We are enjoying him in MLS!
That's why Craig Burley remained an average player just like his punditry. Haaland is a clone of Inzaghi who is at the right position at the right time when ball is passed to him. He can never create chances when it matters like in the important knockout phases. He will be a goal machine when chances were given to him. He can't even dream what Messi did in the world cup by carrying the weight and expectations of not only Argentina but pretty much the whole world. It is inhuman to achieve what he did at that world cup under such an enormous pressure of this day and age! Messi will win the Ballon d'Or else it loses the credibility!
But that is the fact... they're going to pick Lionel Messi just because of pure fandom, it's not about sportivity anymore.. that's why it's meaningless now
@@viverepericoloso7627 Cause... we don't have to enlight any brainless people anymore with football knowledge. Brainless people have no abilities to acknowledge it. 😐 We are just ignoring you guys. I know you are thinking whole world is brainless without few of you. Its what it is.
If it's just about numbers, Messi would win it in 2018. If anyone else had a historical World cup run(messi's wc performance is top 3 in my book) , in a world cup year, then there would be no doubt who the winner should be. And its not like messi is doing poor individually besides the world cup- dude has 60+ G/A contribution and is the highest average rated player in the top 5 league! what are we even debating about?
I saw someone say this on another video: Imagine if Haaland and Messi switched places, Messi achieved and broken all records that Haaland did - Champions League, FA Cup, Premier League, golden boots, player of the year, top scoring record, won everything you could win, and Haaland did everything Messi did - win the World Cup ( which Haaland didn’t even get a chance with Norway) Who would you say is the winner? Clearly Messi right?
The year modric won the World Cup, Messi was the best player across Europe by far, statistically and evidently. Yet Modric won because of 1 World Cup………. So if Messi doesn’t mean that’s another balon d or he got cheated out of. They just keep raising the bar and changing the rules but Messi is pound for pound the Goat 🐐💯
@@tonyhuerta8964I assume this is a typo because Modric didn’t win the World Cup, he was instrumental in getting Croatia to the final but they lost to France.
@@viv4943yeah but u got his point right. Modric had 10 G+A. But he was the best player of world Cup. Messi won in every stat over Modric, most goals, most assists, most Motm, most trophies (even if less prestigious ones) most chances created, most dribbles, etc. But Modric won it. Or compare it to Cr7, who was second in everything that year, but still had a much bigger gap over Modric in goals and assists than Messi and Haaland now (Messi even has more ga, but anyways.) Still Modric won. Why? Cause world Cup is more prestigious, a much bigger and difficult stage, and preforming in world Cup matters way more. Plus Haaland didn't even perform in ucl knockouts. Had 1 goal in his last 8 games, the most crucial games of the season. Like Haaland, but he doesn't deserve the ballon d or this year. Not after what Messi did.
@@kunalsingh4418 yeah I fully understand the point. I’m not advocating for Haaland to win, I think Messi will win it and it would be deserved if he does… but the typo bugged me so I had to point it out lol
Julian Alvarez should win the award. He won the world cup and the treble with Manchester City. He is a great player that people sometimes forgets about.
He did contribute to the WC but he wasn't the most important, and let's all be completely honest Man City could've won the treble without him. Alvarez just happens to be at the right team at the right time
The reason Haaland should not win the award is simply because of his no show in the biggest games. Everyone else would've bean beaten by City with or without Haaland. Simple.
The reason why Haaland should not win is because his main stat of goal scoring is dominated by goals that are incredibly easy to score and awarding the best player trophy for being assisted by kdb would be insane
When you’re 80 years old. And look back at the good ol days of football. You won’t care about the best team. You will only remember the great players who showed us magic. That’s why the ballon d’or matters.
That’s why it’s called World Cup not club cup. WORLD 🌎 CUP = Battle of countries Elite FOOTBALLERS representing their pride, race their roots their ethnicity, family, clan, bloodlines CLUB LEAGUE 🏘️ = battle or tournament with in the city or country representing club where you registered. See the difference? 7continents tournaments vs 1 country tournaments
Yup give my sheep dwarf ballondor for rigged wc and scoring vs lowest ranked teams in Uber east "the drop out" fell out of top 5 leagues give my fifa boy ballondor fifa!!
@@joeldoe6420 oh my oh my that’s full of hatred and insecurities at the same time! Can’t accept that someone is gifted than you! Accept and respect you’ll see your feelings will be lighter and you will avoid heart attack too. You will become healthy. Try I really will help you. Just concern about your health. I want to be kind at least to those are not.
There is no words that can explained what this LAMC human means for the game of football...It's no longer even the geniosity...it's something totally unexplainable&unreasonable to football mankind...
Messi was always best except maybe year or two wgen iniesta i thought was incredible 2010 in particular. Messi has lost out to ronaldo , modtic, and benzema all i agree with because thise players lef their team to best individual prize and were most instrumental players in those years for real. Messi has won cooa, finalissima, now wirld cup in as stylish as any performance weve seen. The goals the assists the possession. Passes yo molina against dutch, abd Alvarez against croatia were plays of tournament and all time level plays in most important tournament sport has. All aftervan absolute beauty against mexico with all pressure of workd abd all eyes on him. Haaland is unique striker who will change thst position if healthy he reminds me of big powerful firward in hickey like jagr just in front of net putting everything away one timer style in hovkey just using left foot for slap shots its unbelievable. What messi did was an all time cenenting achievement and season for arguably greatest weve seen. Haalsnd got golden boot. He will get ballon d'or i think a healthy marco van basten might break messis 91 calender goals that city side is so deep and fluent. Haaland will add ballon d'or next year 🤙hes so fascinating to watch
Look, I also think it should be Haaland but some pundits and fans are making it sound like Messi's case is weak. In the 2022-23 Season Messi won Ligue 1, the French Super Cup and the World Cup whilst having arguably (with '86 Maradona's) the greatest WC Performance in HISTORY whilst being not just a goal scorer but the PRIMARY PLAYMAKER for both Club & Country with 38 Goals and 25 Assists, meaning 63G&A Involvements total. As a 35-36 year old... That's insane. That is 100% a Ballon d'Or winning level of performance & achievement. Haaland vs Messi comes down to personal preferences. UCL VS WC. Goals vs Assists/Playmaking. Big game performances vs Season long excellence. Carrying a team vs maximising potential. It's subjective, not at all clear cut.
At PSG the team does not gel at all. MBAPPE wants everything. He wants the ball, he wants to take penalty. Messi was brought there to assist MBappe and he as he was told. If PSG had play their game through Messi they have a better chance of winning it all.
HAALAND IS NO WAY COMPARE TO LIONEL MESSI ! MESSI IS the BEST in HUMAN Football , GOOD LEADER for a TEAM , And GOOD HUMAN RELATION to HIs TEAMMATES , To Friends and FAMILY ! BEST SKILL Football Players of the WORLD ! MESSI " CONQUER " the HEARTS of The PEOPLE of The WHOLE WORLD to LOVE HIM AND THE FOOTBALL !
World cup played 4 years long, qualifying played for 3 years long plus a year for world cup tournament! That's why it is the most difficult sport to win in the world.
When it's Messi the standards change. You remember when modric won it for simply reaching the finals of world cup? Now Messi phenomenal performance at world cup and winning it and PSG individualism with which is the ballon D'or for is washed away because he did not score as much goals as Harland. Pathetic pundits
Bruh, Ballon d'Or is already meaningless unless we have the 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix scenario. All we need is Michael Masi (either in the football version or himself).
Messi alone scoring in the WC final after winning it would grant him the ballon d oro let alone all the contributions he had during the WC. Had France won the WC we would be talking about Mbappe deserving it just d/t the stunning performance he had in the WC final. It is what it is
some of you are downplaying Messi's performances the past year as though he was free agent sleeping in his father's house in Rosario and the AFA president woke him up in December 2022 went to the world cup, won it and went back home. For Christ sake Messi was the top rated player in Europe prior to the world, he won the French cup as the best player, won the World cup as the best player, he has over 38 goals and 25 assists in all competition, Halland deserves all the accolades, but he was not even the best player in the champions league. The Ballon d'Or is for the best player and not for the highest goal scorer. if it is for the highest goal score, the the likes of Nedved, Zidane, Modric, Cannavaro e.t. c should return their awards to the rightful owners.
🐐 CR7 🐐 🏆 TOP GOAL SCORER IN THE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL (850+ total goals) 🏆 MOST WINS IN HISTORY (760+) 🏆 MOST CLUB WINS IN HISTORY (650+) 🏆 MOST UCL GOALS IN HISTORY 🏆 MOST INTERNATIONAL GOALS IN HISTORY 🏆 MOST UCL ASSISTS IN HISTORY 🏆 5 UCL titles 🏆 Proven across three leagues: (3) EPL titles, (2) La Liga titles, (2) Serie A titles 🏆 Highest goal ratio in La Liga history 🏆 Highest goal ratio in UCL history 🌍 Most charitable athlete in history of all sports! 🔥 UCL hattrick vs Atleti at 35 (not mls) 🔥 41 EPL goals at 36 (not mls) 🇧🇷 Pele said CR7 is the best 🇦🇷 Maradona said CR7 is the best
Dude!!! between 2010 & 2015, the ballon d'or was called FIFA ballon as it was conjointly awarded by both parties and it was only coaches, captains who voted. Journalists were not consulted. In 2016, france football went back the previous format of the ballon d'or and FIFA created FIFA the best award. That is why Modric was able to win it in 2018 over Ronaldo thanks to his stellar performance in the WC. Before 2010, in the WC years, the player who won it or greatly impressed always ended up winning the ballon d'or. One or Two click will help your knowledge because making irrational comments
Xavi 09/10 53 games played: 7 goals 20 assists Iniesta 09/10 42 games played: 1 goal 9 assists Messi 09/10 53 games played: 47 goals, 12 assists. Now do you realize how terrible your argument is when the comparison to today is when Haaland and Messi are virtually identical in G/A? The stats are from transfermarkt so take it with a grain of salt but I doubt they are wrong by enough of a margin to matter here.
Messi without winning the world cup in 2010 he won the ballon d'or , now this season he won the world cup and some people think that he will lose it , really? Lol
