I rambled like this when I was in full ED mode, but I never, ever shamed others for their habits. I just talked, and talked, and was nonsensical because my ability to think clearly was severely hindered.
YESS! As a very thin person who often gets comments about my "thinness." I have really bad IBS and it is largely the reason for it. It would be healthier for me to be not as thin, but I just can't gain weight due to my IBS. Also common for people with crohns or gastritis!
@@Lisianthusbloom I'm a very skinny person and it's just my genetics! Nothing wrong with being skinny, even if it's not for a medical reason etc. Everyone's bodies are made the way they are for what it needs to survive at that time.
@@SwissMissssI follow this lovely creator called Grace (name is Grackle on RU-vid) and her whole family is naturally very “skinny” just purely genetics! She always gets lots of flack for it, she’s a baker also and really loves her food - just naturally tall and slim! X
I’ve been struggling with this. I’m 43 and went through a total hysterectomy 4 yrs ago as well as being disabled due to chronic illness. I’ve gained about 40lbs since my hysterectomy. I sit at about 180. It’s been so hard to even look in the mirror lately. I had two girls that were the size of this girl and about the same age call me Jaba the Hut today at the store. I left my cart and walked out in tears. I’m a size 14 but was made to feel like a monster
@@ammyrobinson9171 I gotta check her out! I rarely see women as slim as I am, and when I do we always get asked about ED's etc. I hope people aren't too harsh on them, it's literally not our fault! Lol
Idk about the coded bit, she just seems like a mean girl. Rude and condescending, which is ironic because she doesn’t really seem knowledgeable about what she’s talking about
My 17 daughter was watching on TT the other day. We had a conversation and after we finished, she blocked her account. There’s no way I am going to allow someone who promotes things like this to influence my daughter. It’s hard enough to instill a positive outlook on their bodies when there are ppl like this chick essentially promoting ED. She knows exactly what her target audience is too. What’s scary is that she is quite insecure and is building a platform off of her insecurities.
Id also go in and block FA's as well. They're insanely delusional and toxic and promote using food as an emotional crutch, as well as falling into creating feeder content and posting it publicly. (Basically posting f=tish content where minors can see it)
Youre right. There’s nothing wrong with being thin but shaming others for not having the same eating habits - she clearly has disordered eating - or the same size is unhealthy and negative. There are many Twitter accounts just like her who promote this kind of mindset. That being thin is the only thing that matters, even putting aside their health to be under a certain weight.
Her obsession with food is VERY telling. If your content revolves around your body, food, and complaining about others' food choices and bodies... you need to get some help.
Maybe this is mean, but I find it even more troubling that she's pushing the idea that you can look like her if you do what she does when she's so clearly had work done..
I`m so glad i`m not on Tik Tok ,and very happy it didn`t exist when i w as a young teen and battling with disordered eating.It`s pretty much remained with my all my life ,though nowadays stress is the trigger for me.Sadly ,this young woman doesn`t know what she`s doing to her body by depriving it of the necessary goodness it needs (and the calories!).When i lost my mum i also lost alot of weight ,and remember getting into the shower one day and being horrified at how bad i looked.So i would definitely have been influenced by her as a young person.I think all these food vloggers need to stop.They`re on a dangerous path and not helping anyone.Time these platforms acted responsibly aswell.:(
I’ve always been very underweight for my height and age. I’ve only ever gained more than 10 pounds when I was pregnant and I can assure you, it doesn’t equate to healthy. Quite frankly, it’s a huge hindrance in so many ways.
I'm in your boat. I'm doing IVF soon and I have always had a hard time putting on weight which has me worried. Especially when the books says your doctor may ask you to put on 35 pounds
@@meggo329 this is a genuinely serious question- how do you get over like,, idk how to phrase it being seen like uncovered. Just with the doctors in general because I want kids [and I don't want to adopt or do surrogacy] but the idea of a random stranger [I literally don't care if they're a doctor] seeing that part of me makes my skin crawl
Honestly I think it is and isn’t. I think she genuinely believes she is unproblematic, but I also think she wants to piss the naysayers off about as much as possible
3:40 she did exactly what I hoped she’d do. 😂 I’m glad she LIVed up to my expectations. (Sorry, I couldn’t help myself with that pun. Lightening the situation so the rest of it doesn’t trigger me.)
That was hilarious! 🍩 🍩 🍩 also, I totally understand, I have an illness that makes me thin but sometimes ED thinking gets into my head & I have to remind myself that there’s no inherent value to thin-ness. I’ve been quite overweight in the past & am trying to just get to healthy, so I cannot allow people like Liv to derail my current good mindset! And tbh, I was way cuter when I was plump! 😂
@@montananerd8244 i can sort of relate due to my own medical issues, but from a different perspective. I have ADHD, so forgetting to eat when I’m in hyperfocus has been a struggle for me ever since I became in charge of feeding myself. There’s a concept called body doubling for ADHD. As long as someone else is physically present, our minds can stay focused. And if someone says it’s lunch time, it’s easy to agree. So Grade school was easy, my mom fed me or school fed me. I could handle college since I lived on campus and had a cafeteria meal plan. But when I started living on my own, remembering to even buy groceries is a weekly struggle. I’ll end up getting Taco Bell at 2am after not eating all day because I finally acknowledge that I am hungry but there’s no food in my house and stores are all closed. (I’m great at caring for others though, my dogs and cats get 2 meals a day and I always get more before they run out!) but myself? Nah, I can do it later. It’ll be fine. And then later happens, and everything is closed. I would absolutely eat a donut with a friend or random internet stranger if they suggested it!! I need to be reminded and given permission to eat! So of course I look thinner than I was when I was younger, and yeah, it does give me more confidence in my appearance. I don’t need validation that my method is inadvertently working to perpetuate both issues. It’s sad. And also probably explains why I tend to end up dating chefs… and gaining weight until we break up and I’m forced to be responsible for feeding myself again. 😅
Holy shi… she would’ve thrived on tumblr back in the day 😬 “I’m so happy!” Sure Liv. (And I know she’s technically in the right in this debate but I really don’t like Abbey Sharp).
She knows exactly what she’s doing and this is mostly ragebait imo. I do think think her content is rooted in what she believes but the way she is acting on the internet is perfectly crafted to piss people off. She reminds me a lot of HRH collection, and I really wouldn’t take her this seriously if I was these creators. Imo it just gives her more attention which is what she wants as a troll
I feel so sorry for this girl. Imagine making your living or being famous by voicing all your negative thoughts about yourself and others. Like an episode of black mirror.
she’s getting worse by the day, it’s just mask off at this point, she’s now using an actual proana tiktok account for video “inspiration” (she’s actually just copy pasting it)
I have a similar frame as this gal, a bit more muscle tone tho… I’ve always been thin and I have a thin bone structure, I’m not dieting and trying hard to stay thin though. I feel lucky and thankful I don’t have the want to do extreme diets and things like that. I do my best to eat a balanced diet and I never cut out “bad foods.”
What’s frustrating is her mom is very svelte and has the same exact body type. It’s likely that genetics play the biggest factor in her being so lean but she makes it seem like it’s just eating small amounts of
I dont see anything wrong with her content. People eating on tik tok as a rebellion of sorts and tagging her name is hilarious bc they make her more popular and viral. Giving no attention is more of a diss. Liv is young and doing whatever it takes to go viral. Some men dress up and pretend to be women and some ppl choose to do this. Wtf cares. If a tik toker is influencing someone to change their life, they have bigger problems.
I dont understand why people dont really talk about the creators who spread the opposite of pro-ana, even though a huge portion of the US is obese. I've lost 5 family members from obesity, so it just confuses me why people tend to be okay with/look past b1nge eating content, but they aren't okay with pro-ana content, even though obesity ends a lot more lives.
@@ammyrobinson9171 oh yeah I didn't mean to imply pro Ana isn't bad, they're both horrible. It just confuses me when some only focus on one side of it (not saying you do that, tbh I'm really talking about abby, just to be clear). I love Michelle, ive been subbed to her for a few years now, I also really like Ilona/Chikara Transformations🫶
@@AKbaby89 i think your looking in the wrong places because people are doing both these things the issue is we are leaning to far ether side and not promoting healthy options not size options. Its also how social media influences conversations we are talking about her instead of talking about a list of health foods that don’t suggest losing or gaining anything.
You do realize this was genius marketing? She intentionally posted content like this for rage bait, and evidently it worked. If it triggers you , move along? Nobody is forcing anyone to listen to her content. We also can't judge a person in real life based on their online personality. Do better, stop being a mean girl.
She’s very narcissistic, narcissist of a tendency to assume everyone thinks like them to justify their own actions her statement about body checking is just that she assumes thats what everyone is doing because she does it so it to her justifies what she is doing. Honestly the only way to fix her is therapy and not platforming ie talking about her watching her commenting or sharing it
Yes!I wish these social media platforms would remove channels like this! They also have a responsibility and are making money from these people.Sadly it won`t be until she`s older and starts having issues that this young woman will possibly regret her actions.
Skinny is a word people use to illustrate how uncomfortable they are with themselves. Don't ever call me skinny. It won't end well for you. I will make you cry and call your therapist.
I don't have an issue with skinny people, none, but I've yoyo'd with weight all my life. I have a condition which is aggravated by weight gain, I lost 34 kilo in 13 weeks through stress in 2022 and I despised being thin, it was physically painful, excruciating to even sit down, bones stuck out everywhere and it's taken until now to get back to 59 kilo, where I was 74 kilo before and it hurt but my issues are better at 59 kilo. I work out, I eat properly and I'm active, I do 50,000 steps a day, I can't keep still so it helps. I don't want my little girl watching someone like this girl. Liv is as bad as Eugenia Clooney.
Actually she's gonna end up with osteoporosis and anemia and a host of other delightful issues says a fat chicken WHO is housebound most days of the month due to chronic pain
One nutrionist my mom saw told her to eat eggs pretty much nothing but eggs. My mom is diabetic and has trouble eating. My mom took her advice and gor sick and never wants to see eggs ever again. Not all nutrionists are good. That women was eventually let go geee i wonder why. Some nutritionists actually get kick backs from promoting products
Actually I find you funny, like really funny, because all that fixation on your body that will just either be maggot food or ashes. But also, it's just so sad, really.
They don`t realise that they ,or someone watching them could take on board what she`s saying and doing and end up very ill ,or worse.Why are these platforms allowing this to be shown to the young and vunerable?? Beggars belief.
@@Joy-qw3wm because these kind of people don't have enough brain cells to spare for other people's welfare. Irritating that the platforms are promoting them, though. RU-vid is problematic enough, never getting TikTok. I just don't need that in my life.
Eugenia 2.0. If people stop watching and reacting to her, like they should for ⬆️ she might quit before she gets started. But ofc, and I’m not saying any of you watching Amy are like this cuz y’all have common sense lol, no one will just stop giving the toxicity attention. I guess it’s the whole train wreck effect.
She seems so young... reminds me of how I would talk at 14 and was into ProAna and ProMia tumblr and blogs (30y/o here). She will cringe when she grows up, heals her ED and looks back at these old videos. I feel sad for her.
Your body is amazing in that it works to to maintain your weight so under eating or over eating for 3 days won’t actually affect your weight like your body accounts for this. You have to under or over eat for long period of time for there to be a change. It has to be a pattern of behavior so calories don’t count on holidays is what I’m saying lol
14:07 admitting that she is seemingly emotionally stunted and therefore does not show her emotions (kinda sounds like she might outright avoid them but who knows) is so NOT a flex imo. Maybe it’s just me but I thought for the most part we understood that toxic people often have an issue feeling and expressing their emotions and tend to remain toxic till their emotional IQ becomes something they choose to work on proactively. Just thought it was interesting that she said it like it was a badge of honor to be tone-deaf and potentially, extremely, emotionally stunted 🥲
She is so triggering. I developed bulimia partially because of content like this 10+ years ago. Im mostly recovered but I still have to try every day to not go back.
Personally I really dislike the “a lot of people have covered this, so I will now too” mentality, from one person to another if you just own your channel instead of talking about how you guess you’ll talk about it cause other people are it’s less enjoyable to watch. Please just own your content instead of focusing on what’s being covered and what isn’t COVER WHAT YOU WANT TO AND WHAT MAKES YOU PASSIONATE, That’s how you’ll make good videos that are enjoyable..
They are all after her for being skinny yet the fat girls are celebrated and if you say anything you get canceled... Being skinnier is healty... Period...she is far from being anorexic... Leave her alone
But that’s not the reason why people are upset 🧐 most people aren’t after her for being skinny 😂 nor did I say she was anorexic, I said that the content she posts falls in line with a lot of the pro Ana content at the time {back years ago}
11:13 looking a bit too thin there IMO... skinny doesnt mean healthy. She is literally saying how her doctor daddy believes tomatoes causes cancer. People clearly aren't attacking her because she's skinny. She is claiming safe, healthy foods are dangerous. Your comment about "fat girls" makes me think you feel personally offended by all of this.
"Being skinnier is healty... Period" Very wrong. Skinny does not mean healthy. Fat does not mean unhealthy. There are a lot more factors that go into health and someone who is skinny can be significantly less healthy than someone who is fat depending on their life style. The language that she uses and what she promotes is very problematic and does not encourage healthy body images or habits. Some of the views she has are also the kinds of things that would align with an eating disorder such as arbitrarily assigning certain foods as bad or equating her happiness to her size. I don't think you actually watched this video to see the issues and the way you're talking about "fat girls" really sounds like you have a personal experience or issue with the situation that is causing you to have a bias.
Being skinny doesn’t necessarily equal healthy. Being anorexic (not implying this girl is) is far more damaging to a person than being obese. Anorexia causes more damaging health issues and they happen much quicker than the health issues that come with being obese. In fact, anorexia has a higher death rate than obesity. The stats are skewed because more people are obese. Also, people aren’t praising others for being fat. The praise is the ability to to feel ok, indifferent or confident about yourself when most people look down on or are mean to fat people.
For me a 6in subway a oJ and a cookie is brunch that's gonna carry me from 6am to 8pm cause I am a fat person with chronic health issues and disordered eating
