I had always wondered just how the show could have so many habitable worlds. A FIVE STAR system is a pretty convenient reason. Seriously this System is a statistical winning lottery ticket to have so many garden worlds.
Tbf, they did terraform (badly) a number of them; that was the Alliance’s whole thing “we put in the time/money/resources to make them habitable, therefore they’re ours” meanwhile the people that actually lived on the “new” planets were mostly like “nuh uh, we actually live here, come and take them” which they did.
Thanks❣️ This was fun. More shows need to refer to in-universe maps like this. It would go a long way toward suspending disbelief and help dispel the sense that an all of a shows outside locations just happens to resemble Southern California, as you mention. 😉
Impossible he meant the edge of the galaxy. All of the ships in Firefly are subluminal (slower than the speed of light). The trip between the Solar System to the Verse alone required sleeper ships over a century long.
@@elitemook4234 even if it were the case, the galactic "edge" as a concept would still be hundreds of light years across. It just wouldn't work at these scales
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Looks like you're taking the sky from them... anyway, a simple (and physically realistic) way to put five stellar bodies in relation is the one described by Luis Wu about the Puppeteers Worlds migration, a Klemperer rosette, I think you mention them on other of your videos... Excellent material, as always, very much appreciated!
OK... Has anyone tried to recreate this system in universe sandbox and tweaked it until it actually works? Maybe increase the orbital distances of the stars by a factor of ten? 20? 100? At some distance, it should start working for really long stretches of time, like for billions of years.
The only way I got it to work is 2 sets of binary stars forming a "tetranary" system with the 5th orbiting nearly a tenth of a light year away. That's just the stars too, I have no idea how to incorporate planets into this
You forgot to mention how the planets themselves violate all aspects of the circumstellar habitable zone around stars (also called the Goldilocks Zone). Too close and the worlds burn, too distant and they freeze, the range is narrow. Add in the laws of planetary motion and the need for sufficient distance between them and other planets (gravitational stability) and there is no way the worlds exist around the White Star, none at all. And then toss in the brown dwarfs that have been "lit", and the gravity from those would have ripped any such system to shred long ago. I never realized the series was so crap with basic science. wow
@@themarlboromandalorian Oh not disputing the fun aspect of the show. And the characters were well written and memorable. I was sad when it was cancelled and happy to at least get the one movie to tie things up. I do love the show. But I can also hate how the science just doesn't work lol.
The show didn't really follow any map other than whether they were flying towards or away from the core of Alliance space. It's the guy who made the map after the fact who didn't do all of the research.
@@walterengler5709 remember humanity had magic terraforming tech, the show mentions their ability to change a planet's gravity along with everything else. with this sort of tech it wouldn't matter where a planet is, just making the 'Verse large enough to be stable would be enough to sustain it probably and lighting up a brown dwarf would not change its gravity, just like turning the sun into a black hole would not change the orbits of anything in the system. We'd still freeze to death of course
Impressive! Most impressive. This multi-star layout really helps me understand how a star-fairing civilization without FTL could hold together. Too bad the gravitational aspects would tear it apart system. In that respect, I still would have preferred that Whedon had given them FTL. But, if you can ignore the practical astrophysics, this arrangement works out pretty well. Thank you!
The Verse never made sense: 1 If you have artificial gravity, you have a reactionless drive faster than a nuclear pulse engine 2 It's easier to fix earth than terraform dozen of worlds and igniting fusion in stars Well done 👍
entirely valid points, though to be fair we don't know exactly why they chose to leave beyond the overpopulation thing. There could be a thousand other variables in play
literally the intro of the movie said why earth was left. there was no "fixing" earth. everything was used up. nothing left. people had to go or die, probably slow deaths of starvation. also, it's one thing to say "oh hey, this thing let's us get a nice comfortable level of gravity for us to live in" and a whole other to say "let's use it to go super fast". Even if that wouldn't turn the crew into pulp, it's likely that it would be *prohibitively* expensive in terms of energy.
I've been playing with a Firefly/Transhuman Space-Traveller crossover idea where a Scout discovers the Verse, and due to the Orion Mandate's (the fusion/equivalent of both the 2nd Imperium and 3rd Imperium of Traveller) policies, has the Scout infiltrate the Verse and gather information... ... though the system wouldn't be able to survive normally, it could if Science Cthuthulu had it as one of his experiment sites. That being loved to pull all sorts of experiments (including trying to recreate _himself_ surprisingly enough) on various species. If the Scout gets to be part of Mal's crew and gets caught up with River's situation, the panic button will be pressed and an entire System Theater (the Orion Mandate has larger units than theaters/commands that we use on Earth, like a Planetary Theater is several theaters large with the attendant space support while a System Theater is the forces to take over an entire star system, and tops out with Star Sector Commands which is all the forces of a star sector (basically provinces in our terminology), to give you an idea, the System Theater for The Verse will be several dozen Planetary Theaters large and have legit hundreds of millions of personnel and enough mass to equiv Luna).
Yeah... the 'verse. I love Firefly - the characters, stories. I ignore 'Verse canon (kinda made up my own) and added FTL capability. You know how it is.
What are your thoughts on The Expanse? Definitely a universe that's fun to explore, but modelling it might take a while if you included all the bases/locations in Sol
What's with the random Singapore hate lol Singapore is a pretty awesome city state. Yeah it's got some strict rules and fines to enforce said rules, but it's hardly fascist. It's a flawed democracy at most, but has always had very transparent, free, and honest elections. Arguably some of the laws in the leader of the free world is far more restrictive and unreasonable.
*possibly*, but extremely unlikely. more likely than not, they'd have to be on exactly opposing sides of the orbital track, or one cluster of rocks would have eventually pulled the other into it and they would become one planet. and even then, their orbits would likely differ slightly, which would eventually lead to some kind of instability in one or both orbits and they'd smack into each other anyway, either maintaining enough momentum around their star to gain a new (probably really weird) orbit, or they'd lose too much (or all) of their momentum and fall into the star.
