The Long Con: How Watch Tower Altered the 1950 New World Translation to Support False Doctrine 

Thank you so much for your kind and encouraging words.

Yet, I'm sure that you can understand the emotion of anger that others may feel as they go through the process of dealing with the lies, manipulation, and loss that they have endured. With that said, I agree that his style of presentation is very effective in reaching those that are in the clutches of mind control.

Excellent work indeed. The man is moved by the spirit. The Governing Body of JWs talk too much about the printed pages of watchtower and other publications, which is in fact their Bible. So sick of those men.

@@BeroeanPickets As expected, you were able to clarify this crucial question with the well-founded explanations in your two videos. You have succeeded in helping the reader understand the true meaning of Matthew 11:11. As impressively explained in your two videos, the corresponding statements in the New Testament make it clear that the prophets of pre-Christian times have the same hope as the followers of Christ themselves. Your explanation that Matthew 11:9-12 is primarily aimed at John's special time-bound role as a human prophet is, in my opinion, of paramount importance. In my view, that interpretation is supported or underlined by the following statement. In this context, the following statement in the Bible text seems to me worth mentioning. I would therefore be interested to know the importance you attach to this declaration. According to Matthew 11:11, John's position as one of the prophets born of women is emphasized. Matthew 11,9+11 (NWT Study Edition) "9 Really, then, why did you go out? To see a p r o p h e t ? Yes, I tell you, and far more than a prophet. "11 Truly I say to you, among those b o r n o f w o m e n , there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is." It is revealing that the Watchtower Society has chosen the following formulation in its German translation to underline the future destiny of John as a human being. Matthäus 11,11 (NWT Studien Ausgabe) "Ich versichere euch: Unter den M e n s c h e n * gibt es keinen Größeren als Johạnnes den Täufer. Und doch ist jemand, der im Königreich des Himmels eine geringe Stellung hat, größer als er." According to John 1:11, the rebirth of God, which only became effective after Jesus' sacrificial death and subsequent outpouring of the Holy Spirit, is mentioned as a prerequisite for entering the kingdom of God. John 1,11-13 (NWT Study Edition) "He came to his own home, but his own people did not accept him. 12 However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to become God’s children, because they were exercising faith in his name. 13 And they were born, not from blood or from a fleshly will or from man’s will, but from God." This fact is confirmed in John 7:38-39. John 7,38-39 (NWT Study Edition) "38 Whoever puts faith in me, just as the scripture has said: ‘From deep within him streams of living water will flow.’” 39 However, he said this concerning the spirit, which those who put faith in him were about to receive; for as yet there was no spirit, because Jesus had not yet been glorified." As you mentioned, at the end of his 11th chapter of Hebrews, Paul pointed out this aspect, emphasizing that with this Pentecost event in Jerusalem, the just or faithful prophets of pre-Christian times also achieved their goal. In my opinion, Paul was also referring to this group of people with the term "the righteous who have been made perfect" in connection with the heavenly Jerusalem according to Hebrews 12:23. Hebrews 11,39-40 (NWT Study Edition) "39 And yet all of these, although they received a favorable witness because of t h e i r f a i t h , did not obtain the fulfillment of the promise, 40 because God had foreseen something better for us, so that t h e y m i g h t n o t b e m a d e p e r f e ct a p a r t from us."

@@BeroeanPickets I wanted to let you know about a recent discussion sparked by an aspect you highlighted in your videos. The findings that can be derived from this aspect are of groundbreaking relevance. However, it is to be feared that this information has not been sufficiently taken note of by viewers. As Jehovah's Witnesses explained to me again, Revelation 21:1-5 is understood to mean that God will preserve the existing heavens and earths forever. Jehovah's Witnesses assume that the separation between heaven, which is considered the seat of government, and today's earth as a habitat for finally redeemed humanity (including the Great Crowd) will continue. The resulting implications are of paramount importance. In this case, the separation between God, the Father of all His creatures, and His creatures as it still exists today would be maintained forever. However, Revelation 21:1-5 says exactly the opposite, namely, that through the literal renewal of heaven and earth, God will forever remove the separation between Him and redeemed mankind. Therefore, it is emphasized in this context that God will dwell with people and not that He will dominate them. In my opinion, therefore, the new world will no longer be comparable to the one we know today, as God denied Adam and Eve access to the tree of life through their transgression in the Garden of Eden, which apparently symbolizes the ultimate goal of finally redeemed mankind (Genesis 3:22-24; Revelation 22:1-2). The approach you have found must therefore be regarded as absolutely groundbreaking. The term "kingdom of God" or "kingdom of heaven" and not "kingdom in heaven" refers to the origin or source of this dominion, but not to its literal seat. ========================== This representation is brilliant. With the parousia of Christ, the multitude of human governments (kingdoms of the earth) is definitively replaced by a single divine government ("kingdom of heaven"). The concept of the Watchtower Society, according to which the divine government will be hundreds of millions of light years away from its actual subjects, is therefore untenable. God's ultimate goal is to eliminate the division caused by the Fall, not to cement this condition. In this case, people would ultimately remain dependent on human government institutions and formal laws. Since Jesus and his brothers will literally fulfill their task as royal priests on earth, the concept of the Watchtower Society also proves misleading, according to which today's elders, who do not belong to the group of the "anointed", will exercise a dominant function as princes on this earth, as a satellite or proxy government, so to speak. (Revelation 5:9-10; 20:7-10) The Watchtower Society must stick to its concept in order to legitimize its teaching of the invisible, i.e. undetectable presence of Jesus since 1914. With this in mind, I would like to thank you once again for your valuable information and explanations.

I did about 20 years behind the WT prison bars. LOL! I have loved Jehovah my whole life and thought the busywork at the KH would show that love. Sadly, the WT, like Satan, wants that love and obedience. They even demote God's only begotten Son to a mere angel, equal to Satan. Do I have regrets? I view my experience as a valuable life lesson that I'll never forget. It enables me to understand the still trapped victims even as Paul did his blind Hebrew relatives.

@@mamajan99 💯% Remarkable!

You are very welcome

@TheBreangelina It's so good to have you with us. I know how hard it can be to give up all one's former associates, friends, and even family. Of course, we do not give them up, but they leave us. Nevertheless, the result is the same and it hurts. But we do it out of love. Love for God first and foremost, but also love for friends, family, and neighbor, because only by acting courageously and setting a good example can we hope to lead them away from the falsehoods of men into the light of God's word.

I really needed these words of encouragement as well. I left every single person in the organization to start over again.

"I had a strong feeling I couldn't ignore" We had to ignore our own cognitive dissonance. But in doing so we also had to ignore the Bible itself! "Beloved, do not believe every spirit [speaking through a self-proclaimed prophet]; instead test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets and teachers have gone out into the world." 1 John 4:1

You didn't leave them. They left us, They were not of our sort.

@@alliemeade2409 I hope you are doing well, Thankfully there are good, non-judgemental people in this world. They often are God's children too. The wheat and the weeds grow together. Christians, shunned by the goats go through their personal Great Tribulation day after day. Christ will always be there for us.

I have some other names..."Man of lawlessness" is a good one too.

@amonekd Thank you, my brother, for your kind words.

Some claim he was a high functioning autistic.

Having known him personally I can agree with that assessment.

"I get so upset thinking about how much time I wasted" Many of us also feel that way. But what a powerful lesson we all learned that we would not know had we not gone thru that tribulation when woke up. Eric uses that same energy in a very powerful way, doing much good for God's wounded sheep.

I'm saving a screenshot of your comment. Well said!

@Keler -- That you so much for your kind words. Well said, "it is a great relief to no longer be in the chains of men!" Enjoy your freedom in Christ to Worship our Father in spirit and truth.

The Bible writers were just men like us, but they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. 2 Peter 1:16-21 says, "16 For we did not follow cleverly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of His majesty. 17 For He received honor and glory from God the Father when the voice came to Him from the Majestic Glory, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” 18 And we ourselves heard this voice from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain. 19 We also have the word of the prophets as confirmed beyond doubt. And you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. 20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture comes from one’s own interpretation. 21 For no such prophecy was ever brought forth by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit." We shouldn't "put on a show" of how pious we are, but our worship isn't supposed to be a secret either. Matthew 10:27 says, "What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the housetops." By the way, Moises received tablets "inscribed by the finger of God", but Moises "shattered them" when he saw the "molten calf". Deuteronomy 9:10-17.

I traced two or possibly three statements/ indications of your beliefs in this unnecessarily longwinded entry. This is not a complement.

My pleasure!

@francinemirey1555- It truly is shameless and blasphemous. The Watch Tower has gone too far down the path of deceit to turn back, as it appears, and show repentance. Who does that remind us of?

There is no version that is free of mistakes, so it is best to use many and rely on interlinears as well. However, there is one that is striving to avoid bias as their principle objective and which is not tied to any denomination. Check out 2001translation.org.

Well said Goodbye Babylon!

Now that's an interesting question.

Im guessing it was there for granting and working with human free will in choice. To add perhaps before creation, rule in heaven may have been challenged in some form. So the tree of life was part of creation to answer that challenge. If we obeyed I suppose it would still be with us today but good question

II believe understanding its full meaning is very important to unlock our understanding this whole "144,000, going to live in heaven vs earth, or having the ability to live and travel between heaven and earth? (John 14:15-24) 15  “If you love me, you will observe my commandments. 16 And I will ask the Father and he will give you another helper to be with you forever, 17 the spirit of the truth, which the world cannot receive, because it neither sees it nor knows it. You know it, because it remains with you and is in you. 18 I will not leave you bereaved. I am coming to you. 19 In a little while the world will see me no more, but you will see me, because I live and you will live. 20 In that day you will know that I am in union with my Father and you are in union with me and I am in union with you. 21 Whoever has my commandments and observes them is the one who loves me. In turn, whoever loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will clearly show myself to him.” 22 Judas, not Is·carʹi·ot, said to him: “Lord, what has happened that you intend to show yourself clearly to us and not to the world?” 23 In answer Jesus said to him: “If anyone loves me, he will observe my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our dwelling with him. 24 Whoever does not love me does not observe my words. The word that you are hearing is not mine, but belongs to the Father who sent me. At this point (with death knocking at my door) I will accept whatever Jehovah and Jesus provide for me in the way of my passing in to death. Bible facts on the tree of life: It was a literal tree with fruit that if eaten guaranteed "Everlasting life" to any who ate it!

@@bobpfohl6268 That's the spirit, Bob!

@randallwittman2720 - All Bibles are translated with a vested interest. If you look at the NWT with a critical eye you can see that some things are translated well, but others are meant to deceive. For example, if you look at Ephesians 4:8 in the NWT what does it read? For it says: “When he ascended on high he carried away captives; he gave gifts IN men.” Why does the NWT say that, for example? What do other Bible translations read? They read that "he gave gifts to men" (including women). The idea here is that gifts of the Spirit were given to people in the first century. The context of that verse is in the context of chapter 4 which is about the unity of those in the holy spirit. If you look at many parallel versions on Biblehub.com you can compare them all. Only the NWT, which is not on Biblehub.com says that gifts were given TO men. That misleads people into supporting the Watch Tower agenda devised by men that they must be obeyed, that they are gifts from God. It supports the whole idea that men are spiritually superior, as it is very obvious that they treat women in an inferior way, but they are not. The Bible teaches that women both prayed and prophesied in the first century and a woman named Phoebe was a ministerial servant. (1 Cor 11:5, Ro 16:1). There are many many verses in the NWT that appear to be purposefully misleading and deviate from other Bible translations. You need to look at many Bible translations and study the Bible itself, and not just the NWT. That way you can see how you have been deceived and you can find out the truth for yourself and not follow men, but Jesus Christ who is the only way and truth and channel to God. BTW, have you ever looked at Rev 5:10 in the NWT? What does it say? It says: "and you made them to be a kingdom+ and priests to our God,+ and they are to rule as kings+ OVER the earth.” The word over is misleading. It is used to support the two class Christian system that JF Rutherford established during his rule of the Watch Tower organization. But the word "Over" is incorrect even though it is used to try to support the idea that the "heavenly class" will be far away in the clouds never to return to earth. But what do other translations say? They almost all say that " You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God; and they will reign upon the earth."

Beloved, do not believe every spirit [speaking through a self-proclaimed prophet]; instead test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets and teachers have gone out into the world. 1 John 4:1 1 John 4:1

If you're referring to Raymond Franz, he first left the Organization, then was disfellowshipped on a trumped up rule, and then he wrote Crisis of Conscience.

Original Sue, From Wikipedia: Raymond Franz Death. On May 30, 2010, at age 88, Franz fell and suffered a brain hemorrhage. He died on June 2, 2010.

@ulisesbernales5969 • You are using the NLT according to Bible Hub- and that version does not represent the Greek Interlinear that points out the word in Greek means to forcibly seize, to lay hold of and "not eager to get into." It is not a positive but a negative. If you look at Strong's Concordance and Helps word studies you can get the true sense of the meaning of this Greek word. It is equivalent to the words used in Matthews 11:12. You are right, they are talking about the same thing, and neither support the Organization's interpretation! Strong's Concordance biazó: to force Original Word: βίαζομαι Part of Speech: Verb Transliteration: biazó Phonetic Spelling: (bee-ad'-zo) Definition: to force Usage: (a) mid: I use force, force my way, come forward violently, (b) pass: I am forcibly treated, suffer violence. HELPS Word-studies 971 biázō - properly, to use power to forcibly seize, laying hold of something with positive aggressiveness. 971 /biázō ("to advance forcefully") is only used twice in the NT (both times positively).

@@BeroeanPickets However, Eric, you seem to miss the last paragraph that says: "Laying hold of something with positive aggressiveness. 971 /biázō ("to advance forcefully") is only used twice in the NT (both times positively)." The use of the word is in a positive sense, not in a negative sense. You overlook that the word is in the positive sense. Your citation does not support you.

@@reynaldorey2020 I admit that the meaning of this verse is disputed. It seems that only the NWT gives it a meaning that could apply only to righteous men seeking entry into the kingdom of God, while most Bible Scholars render it negatively. So which scholars do you believe? You don't. What you do is look for harmony in scripture. If the Watch Tower's rendering is correct, then all the prophets before Christ will not get into the kingdom of God and the covenant God made with Israel was an empty promise. Listen Reynaldo. You are trying to justify the doctrine of the Governing Body by focusing on one interpretation of a single verse rather than exegetically allowing all the bible passages we have discussed in this video series to guide you to the truth. Let’s start with what Jesus revealed on the subject: “But he will say to you, ‘I do not know where you are from. Get away from me, all you workers of unrighteousness! There is where your weeping and the gnashing of your teeth will be, when you see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the Kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown outside. Furthermore, people will come from east and west and from north and south, and will recline at the table in the Kingdom of God. And look! there are those last who will be first, and there are those first who will be last.” (Luke 13:27-30 NWT) Who are the people who will come from the east, west, north, and south? These would be anointed Christians which history has shown include Gentiles as well as Jews. These Christians will recline at the table in the Kingdom of God with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as well as all the prophets of old. What more proof do we need to show that faithful people who died before Christ share in the same salvation hope? They all enter the Kingdom of God. By “Kingdom of God” we are not speaking of Watchtower ’s earthly resurrection hope. Here is what the March 15, 1990 issue of The Watchtower has to say about the meaning of Kingdom of God as expressed in this passage of Luke we’ve just read: “Many” refers to people who begged to be let in after a door was shut and locked. These were “workers of unrighteousness” who did not qualify to be with “Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the Kingdom of God.” The “many” had thought they would be first “in the Kingdom of God,” but they actually would be last, evidently meaning that they would not be in it at all.-Luke 13:18-30. The context shows that Jesus was dealing with entry into God’s heavenly Kingdom. Jewish leaders back then had long enjoyed a privileged position, with access to God’s Word. They felt that they were spiritually rich and were righteous in God’s sight, in contrast with the common people, whom they held in low esteem. (John 9:24-34) Yet, Jesus said that tax collectors and harlots who accepted his message and repented could have God’s approval.-Compare Matthew 21:23-32; Luke 16:14-31. Common people who became Jesus’ disciples were in line to be accepted as spiritual sons when the heavenly calling did open up at Pentecost 33 C.E. (Hebrews 10:19, 20) Though vast multitudes heard Jesus, those who accepted him and later gained the heavenly hope were few. (w90 3/15 p. 31 “Questions From Readers”) You might be scratching your head right now, wondering how the Governing Body can say on the one hand that men like Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, along with all the prophets don’t have the heavenly hope, while on the other hand, admitting that Luke 13:28 refers to the heavenly hope when speaking of the Kingdom of God. If the Kingdom of God is the heavenly hope and “Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets [are] in the Kingdom of God,” then “Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets” have the heavenly hope. How can they get around that? It’s obvious! This is where eisegetical Bible study makes a mockery of itself and of all those who have naively trusted in the men teaching them “The Truth.” The foregoing “Questions From Readers” continues with: “But the little flock of spirit-begotten humans receiving that reward could be compared to Jacob reclining at a table in heaven with Jehovah (the Greater Abraham) and his Son (pictured by Isaac).” (w90 3/15 p. 31) Hey, boys, you forgot something. You haven’t accounted for all the prophets. And you’ve run out of antitypes. I know, you can make Jacob represent the Governing Body, and then you have room to have all the prophets represent the rest of the anointed. There you go. All fixed. The lengths to which they will go to protect their teachings. I mean, I’ve heard and seen many examples of twisting scripture, but here they’re twisting it to the breaking point. I wondered to myself why I didn’t notice this piece of stupid, stupid reasoning back when I was a Witness in 1990. Then I remembered that I’d pretty much stopped reading The Watchtower by then except for the study articles, because they were just so boring and repetitive. There was never anything new to learn. Do you think that the Jews hearing Jesus’ words would have not taken them literally? Of course, they would have. Those Jews had a salvation hope that involved being in the Kingdom of God. They believed the scripture that promised that the forefathers of the nation of Israel would make it into the Kingdom of God as would the faithful prophets. That Kingdom was promised to them for keeping the covenant that God made with them through Moses: “And Moses went up to the [true] God, and Jehovah began to call to him out of the mountain, saying: “This is what you are to say to the house of Jacob and to tell the sons of Israel, ‘YOU yourselves have seen what I did to the Egyptians, that I might carry YOU on wings of eagles and bring YOU to myself. And now if YOU will strictly obey my voice and will indeed keep my covenant, then YOU will certainly become my special property out of all [other] peoples, because the whole earth belongs to me. And YOU yourselves will become to me a Kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words that you are to say to the sons of Israel.” (Exodus 19:3-6) If they kept the covenant, they would have become a holy nation and a Kingdom of priests. Isn’t that what is promised to us in the new covenant that Jesus instituted? So the first covenant promised those keeping it entry into the Kingdom of God to rule as kings and priests. They could have kept that covenant. It wasn’t beyond reach. “Now this commandment that I am commanding you today is not too difficult for you, nor is it beyond your reach. It is not in the heavens, so that you have to say, ‘Who will ascend to the heavens and get it for us, so that we may hear it and observe it?’ Nor is it on the other side of the sea, so that you have to say, ‘Who will cross over to the other side of the sea and get it for us, so that we may hear it and observe it?’ For the word is very near you, in your own mouth and in your own heart, so that you may do it. (Deuteronomy 30:11-14) You might be wondering, “I thought that no one could keep the law of Moses perfectly.” Not true. Granted, no one could keep the law without sinning, without breaking at least one of the ten commandments, but remember that the law included a provision for forgiveness of sin. If you, as an Israelite, were to sin, you could have your sin wiped clean if you followed the other stipulations of the law involving sacrifices for the expiation of sins. The nation of Israel didn’t do this and so it broke the covenant, but there were many individuals, like Samuel and Daniel who did keep the covenant and so won the prize. Or are we saying that God would not keep his word with individuals because of the sins of others? That could never happen. Jehovah God is just and keeps his word. Evidence of his purpose to keep his word to faithful servants is seen in the transfiguration account: “Truly I say to you that there are some of those standing here who will not taste death at all until first they see the Son of man coming in his Kingdom.” Six days later Jesus took Peter and James and his brother John along and led them up into a lofty mountain by themselves. And he was transfigured before them; his face shone as the sun, and his outer garments became brilliant as the light. And look! there appeared to them Moses and E·liʹjah conversing with him.” (Matthew 16:28-17:3)

@@LosBereanos Luke 13:27-30 is not categorical, Eric. It can be validly interpreted in another way that harmonizes with the texts I have presented to you. Hebrews 10:19, 20; Psalms 45:16; Isaiah 32:1, 2 I am not defending the NWT, it has its bias like all translations. Jehovah's Witness interpretations are unreliable, and you know it. The question arises: what did the unbelieving Jews understand by the kingdom of God? For Jews in general, the kingdom of God was an earthly government headquartered in literal Jerusalem, with a human Messiah who they hope will free them from the Roman yoke. The OT does not teach a heavenly kingdom of God. That is done in the NT, under the new covenant. It is not possible for the faithful of old to be anointed Christians who are under the new covenant. That is a major brand heresy.

@@reynaldorey2020 You write: "The question arises: what did the unbelieving Jews understand by the kingdom of God?" Do you think that what they understood it to mean would change what it really is? It was called a sacred secret, a holy mystery. They imagined what it would be like, but it wasn't God's time to reveal the fullness of his method for saving humanity. You write: "It is not possible for the faithful of old to be anointed Christians who are under the new covenant. That is a major brand heresy." Where is your evidence? Would you have us believe you because you say so? Do you want that responsibility on your shoulders?

I don't believe it was Samuel, because the evidence is that all the faithful men and women of old are still in the grave awaiting a resurrection. There is also the fact that the apparition came not through one of God's prophets, but through a spirit medium. On Matthew 25:46, we know that the second death is reserved for the Devil and his demons. There is no resurrection from that death, so it refers to eternal death. That is the punishment meted out to the goats in Matthew 25:46.

Although the problem of the verse seems to remain if I understand you well. If all the prechristian righteous men will make it to heaven, how then could the lesser one IN that kingdom be greater than he is? In other words if we say; Abraham, Moses, Peter, Paul are in the kingdom. Now we then say that the lesser one IN that kingdom is greater than he is. We see that the problem is not solved. Your point can only make sense, if you ask me, if those that will make it to heaven are only CHRISTIANS. Because only christians have the credentials John lacked. But if the prechristians make it to heaven, the problem remains. I don't know if I make sense anyway.

Who is Francis?

@@bourbon_sketcher Matt 22:14

@@bourbon_sketcher There is none! But by deduction, after learning the parables, and looking at the reasoning, that the earth was made for humans. The heavens was made primarily for Spirit Creatures. You realize that Jehovah God has set a exact number (144,000) on those that will inherit the Kingdom of the heavens along with Christ. And they will reign over those on earth as benefactors of a promise to make all things new. You must have a burning desire in your heart to serve Jehovah God, and that then is when the Holy Spirit suddenly one day comes in concert with that desire and changes your complete deep understanding of scripture. But if you do not remain faithful it just fades away.And you are never told you have lost God's favor. That's why we have so many false Christs!

I don't deal with human opinion.

I trying to make sense of what your saying. BOREAN IS easier to follow, make sound advice.

The Greek word being used here in Matt 11:12 is “being pressed forward” or “pressers forward.” (Kingdom Interlinear) As German Scholar Heinrich Meyer states in his “Meyer’s Critical and Exegetical Hand-Book to the Gospel of Matthew, 1884, p. 225” states, it is no longer a calm or expectant interest, but an eager and energetic interest; hence they are believers, not attackers, struggling hard to get its possession. Your thoughts?

@waylonobsessed -- see the Interlinear for Matthew 11:12 on Biblehub.com. It does not state it the way you propose, but shows that violent men are trying to seize the kingdom. That is what my video explains with scriptural support.

You seem to think that the KJV is "the Bible". Don't you realize that KJV stands for King James Version. That means it's a version of the manuscripts from which it was translated. Do your own research on the internet about the true origin of the KJV's version of 1 John 5:7.

@@BeroeanPickets I did NOT say the KJV IS the bible . I was talking ABOUT versions! I know exactly the origin of that version! I was trying to show that all this opposition to the JW bible is too subjective and based on a doctrinal difference mainly to do with John 1:1. I own MANY versions of the bible and they ALL have some merit but also have flaws! We dont have the originals but rely on past scholars to tell us the truth! So in your view, which is the best bible to use?

@@kiwihans100 You write: " You are using false information to criticise another religion!", but you do not state what the false information is. If you are telling the truth, and not making a false accusation, then make your case.

@@BeroeanPickets I am showing you that its wrong to isolate ONE bible translation because of your antipathy to the JW org which I suspect is principally due to your 'trinitarian' beliefs! I believe that so many OTHER translations have been tainted by THEIR doctrines.

@@kiwihans100 Oh, that is just too funny. I'm about as anti-trinitarian as they come. Here, let me show you: ru-vid.com/group/PLyyw76AUJTT0y9sIX820dQrtAIC1nbuLu

My pleasure.

Most welcome

Is the "overlapping generations" one of those "updates on understanding" to which you refer?

“and they said to the woman: “We no longer believe just because of what you said; for we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this man really is the savior of the world.”” (John 4:42)

@@BeroeanPickets 'The Christ And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world. '

Let what go?

@@BeroeanPickets the old dusty book.