The Lord of the Tides | House of the Dragon Ep 8 Reaction 

IM ACTUALLY IN TEARSSS 😭😭

The Night King sent a scouting force to King's Landing, y'see...

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@@DNotzz personification of the nerd emoji goes to you.

For the Editor: I mean yeah, "milk of the poppy" is basically just an opioid derivative. So even if it's not specifically heroin, it's in that same drug group.

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“If I was will smith I woulda slapped em wit a sticc”

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Lol

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lmaoooo

LOL! You forgot “aunt.” 😅

@Dyl they are distantly related.. Their great grandpa were brothers

@@wraith1701 no aunt wouldn’t apply, she would have to be the sibling of his parents/stepfather/fake father none of which she is. Technically she would be 2nd cousin/stepsister but that doesn’t have the same ring to it

You ain't kidding. He didn't see it coming at all.

Gotta respect it.. homie said it with his CHEST too 😂

Nah man. That's not his chest. That's his WHOLE TORSO

Nah bro was stupid. How you gon call someone's wife a whore and step children bastards and then turn your back to him. Especially when you know that someone is absolutely with the shits when you saw him drag out the top half of Mr. Krabs in episode 3. I would've at least waited till I got on the ship back and a fair distance away from the port before I yelled out that shit.

It's Velaryon cmon man 8 episode already

Same blood, same mother, both brothers, all gangster.

And killing another valerian left after the doom. Really gangster. Velaryon should rebelto this targaryens for all the L bro. They rich

@@reanukeeves3692 the 2nd half of your sentence sent me back to slavery bro. What are you even saying??? I don't even understand. My masters were Vikings bro, I don't want that!

@@reanukeeves3692 Their story is not over. Let's just leave it at that.

They related of course they be all gangster

It is opium. Milk of the poppy is just the liquid form. It was common as a medicinal painkiller for thousands of years and yes, people got addicted to it. Marcus Aurelius, the roman emperor, was a massive poppy fiend. Being as wealthy and powerful as he was though, he never was short of the stuff, so it didn't really show like addiction does these days. Thing is, milk of the poppy isn't as strong as refined opium that is smoked, or heroin, which is even stronger and has a more intense high. In the archaeological record, there are many sites where archaeologists find piles of bones, wood, or some kind ornate stone pipe laced with traces of petrified opium. Not wanting to touch that hot potato, you have to dig to find this information. It's like how when they found Pompeii and discovered all the brothels with their lewd artwork on the walls (so foreigners who couldn't speak Greek or Latin could just point for what they wanted from the prostitutes. They actually avoided taking tours in those sites for quite some time and would just show the architectural beautiful buildings or the preserved bodies. Opium was more popular than marijuana; curiously enough, weed was smoked, inhaled in a kind of incense burner, or put in food and seen as a purely medicinal herb. Opium was where it was at, for recreation or easing the pain of illness or injury. It also shaped a lot of human history in subtle and overt ways. The Opium wars of China still affect the West's relationship with China to this very day and influences a lot of the antagonism that now currently exists between the US and China, with the potential for WWIII. The much more intense and addictive fentanyl is wreaking havoc across the US and elsewhere, causing civil unrest, societal unease, and calls for radical action. Opium still shapes our world to this day. The study of the simple poppy plant leads down a rabbit hole, with stories of healing, madness, indescribable pain, the triumph of the human spirit, and the greed of men.

It is. It's explained in the books that it's created using poppy aka opium and then mixed with milk and honey. I've always gotten the impression it's effects are similar to that of Codeine or Oxy because of how delirious the user gets. Still not as bad/crazy as the psychedelic drink Shade of the Evening, which is the elixir that Dany drank when she visited the House of the Undying and had her visions and in the books, Euron Greyjoy is seemingly addicted to it (from the Euron chapter that was released for Winds of Winter years ago, poor man got absolutely butchered by his TV adaptation)

It’s kind of like heroin which is also made from poppy 😮

that's why growing poppies is prohibited in many countries only poppy seeds are sold the more milk poppy you drink the more you need later you get addicted to it and can't deal with pain without it

That's exactly what it is. Opium is a flower.

Roshi ceo of gaslight

@@matiasgonzalez1360 That... isn't how gaslighting works.

@@theperson8539 you're right... it's how jokes work

​@@theperson8539 yooooo the person tryna gaslight Matias into believing the wrong definition for gaslight😊

@@miketrujillo3677 Maybe you should Google it.

At least that how I took it as well. Ironically enough, the King just undid all his good work at uniting the realm, and put Alicent back on the path of war.

Yup. Alicent wouldn’t recognize details of the song of ice and fire because Viserys never told her. That prophecy is only meant for the current king to pass it on to his heir, so only Rhaenyra ever knew. Alicent just focused on a few key words like Aegon, prince, promised, unite the realm (not against white walkers but the lords of Westeros who will rebel against any female ruler). Earlier this episode she was ready to give up on Aegon because he’s such a disappointment, especially after the *ape, and I think she meant it when she told Rhaenyra she’d make a good queen. But misinterpreting Visery’s last words will now make her think she has the king’s mandate to make Aegon king.

@@somestuff7876 Even in his death, he (in)directly caused another conflict(s).

@@atkim122 Alicent was going to make Aegon king either way lol. Not that I'm about to start spoiling any book details for you, but let's just say the Greens feel strongly enough about Aegon being in charge that they're willing to absolutely rip apart the entire realm lmfao

@@atkim122 why do you think she went full force though? like i wonder why she didn’t question the possibility of the words being wrong. maybe cause it was her first time hearing a prophecy?

So true! And when Daemon came up to help him..🥺🥲

Nothing like the love between a father and daughter.

Untill he turned on her and named his son agon his heir

@@jackhilton4285 i don't think he turned on his daughter.. he thought he was still talking to his daughter and was answering her question from earlier in the episode when she came in to plead for his help. Allicent just misinterpreted it as her son's name is also Aegon

Milk of the Poppy be that medieval oxycotion.

@@Christrulesall2 Nah. It's opium. And it's not medieval, we still get opioids from poppies cultivated in the Golden Triangle and Golden Crescent regions. The flowering portion of the plant is cut and a milk-like sap is collected and dried. The dried, crystalline residue is opium. One of the main components of opium is morphine. The morphine in milk of the poppy can then be converted into more concentrated forms like hydromorphone or oxycodone or whatever.

My son in law shed a few tears too. His grandfather passed recently as well as a cousin. That family dinner speech hit him hard.

He sure does deserve an Emmy

Dude was the sanest person in the show and even he was crazy but not as everybody else they’ll power hungry monsters.

Weak

It's his fault it happened

@@Pacbandit13 Yes, in part. But saying it's only his fault would not be fair either. Everyone made decisions that contributed to getting to that destination.

He's honestly such a good actor, man. You wouldn't know just by looking that he was also the priest in Peaky Blinders.

@@RabidDogma he was great in Hot Fuzz too

Hodoor's death was another 'tear jerker'.

Every episode seems better than the last. I thought ep7 would be tough to beat, but nope next week they did it.

Agree and still is!

@Rick King 22 I'm with Issa, I found this more emotional. Those moments you mentioned were too shocking to make me tear up.

@Rick King 22 Those moments were shocking, sure, but this scene has MUCH more weight to it IMO because we can all identify with Daemon trying to help someone who's very close to us that's very clearly near the end of their life.

@Rick King 22 hodor actually did get me pretty emotional but nope no actual tears shed…except maybe for when season 8 came out

@@issaphae9659 I heard it was improvised too, when the crown fell he came in and helped viserys and put the crown on his head. Originally viserys was just gonna waddle onto the throne

@@funnelingspace9268 yeah i heard that too. matt smith just casually creating the most powerful moment of the series so far.

Daemon out of pure spite would probably just call him a nigga back 🤣 Then instead of Vaemond being killed it's just an insult match lmao

i heard Dave Chapelle say that in my head XD

Vaemon looked like Dave Chappelle from certain angles 🤣

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@@Crispifordthe3rd515 Bro instead of it being gory, it would just be super uncomfortable for everyone involved lmao

Him in his head be like: "Am I going to risk it? Yeah. Fuck it. BASTARDS"

I think he knew before then, which is why he said it. Bringing the issue up in general when the line of succession was "obviously settled" (because everyone knows those are laenor's sons, right? ☻️) was already basically calling them bastards in an official, legal setting. He likely wasn't getting back to Driftmark once Viserys walked in and his possible maneuver with the Hightowers was thwarted, so he went out with spite.

Bro was gonna have to take orders from that kid I think people forget that part 😂. He was like naw I’m out 😅

Can't blame her. Remember before Viserys told Alicent about his dream he had about his son wearing the Conqueror's Crown so that seed had already kinda been planted. And then he tells her this.

exactly what happened to Rhaenys backing up Lord Corly's support of Luke as heir to driftmark, she can simply say it's her husband's last wishes.

I think you mean "lose"

That's so annoying & dump if the show brign this as an excuse to make you sympathize with alicent more that's soo annoying doesn't make sense for many reasons

@@laza0202 Alicent has been extremely divided into whether support Aegon and Otto or fullfill Visery's wishes, in the dinner after Rhaenyra's toast and Visery's words, she found a reason to choose her, but after hearing Visery's "last wishes", and thanks to the previous comment here, I remembered that he had told her something similar in episode 2, makes sense, it's not just the whole dream thing, that's more like the last drop to fill the cup in Alicent's mind to support her son.

Well no, he did make a good argument but he tried to undermine what his brother initially wanted. He was dumb the way he went about it. Who gives a damn if those are not your nephews. YOU are not the lord of driftmark.

Facts he said what everyone already was thinking lmao 😂

FR, and for that he has my respect.

@@thechangamire3495 Same though. 😂

@@philbobaggins9605 true tbh, he should've just bent the knee and poisoned lucerys down the line, he was just too honorable.

I'm pretty sure they did catch it.

House Hightower might be my favorite house in Westeros. First men lineage, rule a port town with vaguely eldritch origins and a huge fuckin lighthouse, patrons of the arts and sciences, just chillin collecting that tax revenue being generally indispensable to the Tyrells. Leader of their house might be a crock sorcerer/alchemist with a hot witch daughter, plotting how to defend against Euron, another sorcerer.

@@khafaniking1230 House Hightower also has the largest standing army during the time period of GOT.

@@khafaniking1230 Also own the greatest city in Westeros. King's Landing has it beat in some areas but let's be real, that place is a shithole.

@@ajax7140 does George ever explain why they aren't lord paramount of the reach? They seem far more powerful than the Tyrells and even the Gardeners

@@mattyice9535 The reach? Isn't that over in the vale, you mean High Garden right?

Jace and Luke are not velaryons so even if they marry one there is no "true" velaryon blood You're reading wayy into it.....there was no ambition involved in his petition

@@phoenixking9457 ...Baela and Rhaena are trueborn Velaryons. The children of theirs with Jace and Luke would not have had the name Velaryon, but then the Targaryen kings from then on would have Velaryon blood in them; allowing for future plots.

@@odaviing3871 bastards strong boys. They all die anyways

@@odaviing3871why would their names change from valeryon to Targaryen? Please refrain if it’s a game of thrones spoiler because I haven’t seen it

@@Myaccount923 That is the deal Viserys makes with Corlys in the show.

You didn't understand the series....watch it again He is interested in blood not the name and it must be passed down from a true velaryon male....Baela and Rhaena are targaryeans in his eyes so in order for your point to work their husband will have to be a true velaryon....which Jace is not cuz he's a Bastard

That is not how it works. If it was, then any sibling could claim the head of the family. And Any royal could claim to be King. So when Viserys dies, any of his siblings: Rhaenys, Rhaenyra, Daemon, Aegon, Aemond, Daeron, Haleana, Luke, Jace, Joffrey, Aegon(Rhae), Viserys(Rhae) would all claim for Kingship. Also are you forgetting, that the blood will be dirtied by Bastardy. And not even Velaryon Bastardy. Basically an outside family mess up with theirs.

@@bigivel my point was the line would continue. I understood his point. But he wasn't on solid ground with the king. The conversation was over.

@@bigivel no. laenor recognized those kids as his. That guy was so wrong. he couldn't accept that his claim was weak. The "dad" the heir recognized those kids, gave them HIS NAME. The "grand father" accepted them. It was his WILL. The "grand mother" accepted them. Its like your brother taking the inheritance you left for your adopted child. That was his fault. Plus those kids are gonna marry the valeryon kids either way. so the next generation all would be fixed. and itsall assumption since there is no dna testing. ' the blood would remain, and the name would remain. plus rhaenery has some valeryon blood so her kids do too. if he had an issue he should have talked to his brother before. his claim was weak af

But the unique Y Chromosome branch passed down father to son will be gone

@@ay5415 and in the end of the day Corlys is the lord of the tides, not Vaemond, and Corlys wanted Lucerys as heir, so his wishes should be respected.

Well everyone keeps forgetting about that conversation by the bonfire in episode 3 where Viserys told her that he had a dream about his firstborn son becoming a great conqueror and being born with a crown and all that, that's definitely what she thinks he's talking about with the "Aegon's Dream" stuff

@@Vincent-gl7bs Curiously, that dream is technically true (SPOILERS FOR THE NEXT EPISODES) Aegon II wear the crown of Aegon I with his valyrian steel sword, Blackfyre

@@Vincent-gl7bs Everyone kept forgetting every Alicent scene by the time the next episode rolled out bc they were too busy seething or something. Like the amount of details - or even fairly obvious character traits - that have been completely discarded makes me think people were simply not paying attention or were busy assuming the worst and mentally rewriting every line of dialogue she had to make her sound more sinister/malicious in their head. There's just no way

Yeah i was dying😂😂

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Technically, they're not legitimate because even though they were raised as Laenor's sons, they were still bastards, and they were obviously so. Coryls and Laenor would've needed to legitimize them, but that would be admitting that they're not biologically Velaryons.

Laenor did not official adopt the boys he pretended to be their father, therefore the boys are still legally illegitimate. Both Vaemond and the Hightowers have the right to be upset with them

Fr. Vaemond, while he _wasn't wrong_ in the slightest, spoke too much with too little protection.

I mean he wasn’t even all that right either. If Luke marries Baela, their children will still be of Velaryon blood, the line won’t end. But I guess he’s all about the “pure blood” business.

@Dyl You’re right. But I guess you can argue about the philosophical view of it. GRRM writes about the unfair treatment of bastards but some are raised alongside trueborn children like a part of the family. If Laenor loved his bastard children as his own and Corlys recognized Luke as heir, then should it even be questioned? But that’s me talking out of my ass lol

@@REChronic54 He just wanted the seat for himself. Yeah, he's right but he's an opportunist. Corlys made it clear he wanted Luke on the throne and if all Vaemond cared about was Velaryon blood he would have shut up after the deal happened. Instead he realized he got outplayed and decided to fall on his own sword.

Rhaenyra is so trash lmao the only people I see defending her are girls 😂

It's not. Heroin is addictive poppy milk isn't. It is used as a painkiller or anesthetic before surgery

@@missrese868 “As with morphine it is possible to become addicted to milk of the poppy if it is over-used.” Direct quote from the wiki page, it’s an opioid hence the poppy part in the name

@@brennanrattenni Citing Wikipedia is a confession of profound ignorance.

@@alphanerd7221 not Wikipedia the wiki for the books. Much different with actual citations

@@brennanrattenni Same thing. You are quoting a bathroom wall.

Great way to put it. I don’t believe this is in the books but it shows who she really is.

Yeah the whole "The house is going to disappear" argument kinda made no sense

You have to learn about feudalism before talking nonsense. Do you know the salic law? The new lord remains a bastard even if he marries a Velaryon it doesn't change anything.

@@ByuntaeOG two words: salic law.

Also, the boys are legally Velaryon. The next generation will have the name and the blood united so there was nothing to be worried about after that deal was announced. Vaemond really just wanted power and when he realized he'd been outplayed he lost it.

@@blackbird45 Did you miss the part of the show where the King declared his daughter his heir?

That's a great observation and interpretation

Blood doesn't matter. Vaemon just wanted to rule Driftmark. No respect for an uncle trying to take his adopted nephew's inherent due to "blood".

@@robertwalker1001 totally agree with you, just starting that their marriage brings blood and name together. Was all for respecting the wishes of Corlys

@@robertwalker1001 Well, Vaemond wasn't the only one, don't know if the show will adapt it, but there were other Velaryons who made the same claim and got their tongues removed by Viserys' orders

Uh no

Exactly. I don't see how some second son with no stake and no birthright is the aggrieved party when the King and the Lord agreed who the heir is and don't care about bloodlines.

the crown part is true but Daemon was always meant to help him

it made that moment even that much more powerful

The house is not on the precipice of extinction though, there are plenty of Velaryons alive to carry on the lineage. Only the Head of the House would not be true Velaryon and even that would be corrected the following generation since the twins have Velaryon blood.

People vibe with tyranny as long as its sexy

@@ByuntaeOG Notice I said "Male line" of House Velaryon. A fact that's important in this world. And given the fact that I have hindsight since I read the source material, I know for a fact that House Velaryon doesn't last.

@@knivesmillions2913 Pretty sure House Velaryon still exists in ASOIAF. The don't play a major role but they are mentioned.

@@FullmetalPainThey're role is non existent so that's a moot point. My point still stands...Vaemond has every right to be pissed off at Rhaeneyra for effectively eradicating the male line of his family. That's an undeniable fact, he doesn't know Laenor is alive, and even if he did it wouldn't matter it's still partially her fault for not putting her desires aside and performing her duty.

Kinda seems unlikely since the camera also immediately focused on the dropped crown. Unless it was shot multiple times.

Vaemond didn't deserve to lose his inheritance to Rhaenerya's illegitimate sons

@@theawesomeman9821 if it was his inheritance to begin with I could see what you’re saying! It was always Luke’s inheritance.

@@ev2155 by Westrosi law Vaemond was entitled to it but the king was bias for his family and perverted justice

@@theawesomeman9821 seems like you’re biased!

@@ev2155 I'm against ruthless people who take things away from those who deserve it

Hoes won't *truly* be mad until Aegon II feeds his dragon

You spoiling ?

@@roachies4242 Yup Alicent will definitely get crossbowed in the shItter like Tywin 😉

​@@roachies4242 no I'm pretty sure that was a joke bc Tywin used the exact same words to Tyrion before he shot him in GoT 4x10

Lol, better than forcefully putting your daughter in the throne against untold centuries of tradition, putting half the lords of the realm and most of the smallfolk against the ruler and provoking a civil war just so you can feel better about yourself like Viserys did. He got most of his family killed, but at least he's like, feminist and shit, right? right???

nah he's like "damn kid, you sure you ain't mine?"

you have to learn about Salic law and feudal society before talking nonsense. Do you know the salic law? In any case the new lord remains a bastard, he compromises the line no matter that he marries a Velaryon according to Salic law women cannot claim any succession.

Baela will only be wife of the lord of the tides, its still strong bastard who will rule. Their son will be actual velaryon on the throne. So for entire generation an enemy will rule his ancestral home, its not a easy thing to swallow. He should pretend to be ok with it and have the kid assasinated shortly after.

Exactly!

Then Driftmark would pass to the Targaryens, like there would be: House Targaryen of the Iron Throne and House Targaryen of Driftmark

@@hectormiranda1088 It wouldn't. Luke/Lucerys only would be called Targaryen if he sits on the iron throne. His children which would have Velaryon blood would be Velaryons

😂🤣 Daemon swing through their screen

Vaemon is the heir of Corlys because his grandchildren are bastards and cannot claim the succession. When the lord or king has no male children, his next of kin inherits. Feudal society is governed by Salic law, king or lord, there are laws that they themselves cannot supplant as he said, Viserys breaks the law. And he's right. His claims as heir and legal and he has the right to assert it since the heirs are bastards.

He spoke the stupid that got him killed.

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