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The Lord's Prayer in Gothic, English, German, and Swedish - And Who Were the Goths Anyways? 

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Stephan takes a plunge into the dead language of the erstwhile Gothic people (or peoples), comparing how Gothic probably sounded to how Swedish, German, and English sound. ‪@loquidity4973‬

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@dianekassmann8821
@dianekassmann8821 2 месяца назад
I love language comparisons like this. Thank you!
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 2 месяца назад
Thank you for watching, why I keep making videos.
@EarnestWilliamsGeofferic
@EarnestWilliamsGeofferic 2 месяца назад
𐌰𐌹𐍅𐍃 • (aiws) - From Proto-Germanic *aiwaz, from Proto-Indo-European *h₂óyu. In the Germanic languages this basically becomes a stem. It does come back round to English (from the PIE) by way of Greek, αἰϝών, Anglicised as eon. It also comes back to us via Latin, aeternus, eternity. Ewig(keit), Evig(het), and ever (and forever) are all directly from *aiwaz, with English being the only example that didn't use it as a stem!
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 2 месяца назад
Wow, thank you for the in depth explication!
@popsicle3649
@popsicle3649 2 месяца назад
I had the inkling that garden originally means „enclosed space“ . I checked that on Etymonline:“from Proto-Germanic *gardan- (source also of Old Frisian garda, Old Saxon gardo, Old High German garto, German Garten "a garden," Old English geard, Gothic gards "enclosure"), from PIE root *gher- (1) "to grasp, enclose."“ That would fit nicely with the meaning of realm/kingdom/ Rikke/Reich - a defined and guarded area of land belonging to or overseen by one ruler/leader.
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 2 месяца назад
Yes, very true! And, that would explain the Garden of Eden as a realm more than a place to plant and /or frolic. Thanks for your research and comment! 🙂
@kerrysterll
@kerrysterll 26 дней назад
Thanks!
@kerrysterll
@kerrysterll Месяц назад
I have been recently disappointed which nearly put my german learning to a stop , You’re my only inspiration now 😢😊🎉
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 Месяц назад
Thank you so much! What happened if I may ask?
@kerrysterll
@kerrysterll 26 дней назад
It started with an Instagram chat with this man who lives in Hamburg ,, He was very nice at first , but he said for me to get in touch with him on Telegram ,, then ignored me altogether And he kept asking for my money ,, which he doesn't need ,, because he's a well known singer songwriter ,, his name is Peter Heppner ,, I’m Sorry for getting back to you so late ,, but it has taken me all this time to get over liking a musician that I have listen to, and liked as long as I have been learning German 😊 Thank you for caring Steffen 😊
@kerrysterll
@kerrysterll 26 дней назад
He used to be in a band called Wolfsheim but I read he is worth millions 😮
@jorkasvupp8674
@jorkasvupp8674 2 месяца назад
Nice video! Thanks! From what I have learned, is that the word “þiod” is related to ”tyda” in Swedish and ”deuten” in German (which would mean interpret in English) it was because the common people were speaking ”clearly” in opposition to the church latin. Then the meaning shifted so it became ”people” i.e those who spoke clearly. So it became þjóð in Old Swedish, which also was used in the old name for Sweden, Svíþjóð or Svíþioð, still used in Icelandic.
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 2 месяца назад
That is so interesting!!! Thank you for your insightful commentary!
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 2 месяца назад
In Herman, “deuten” also means “to point.” So, maybe there is a connection there too. With the prefix be- (bedeuten) it becomes more specifically “to mean, signify.’ … Fodder for another video! Tak så myket!
@mattbarbarich3295
@mattbarbarich3295 2 месяца назад
The Ostrogoths ruled greater Croatia and Slovenia also at the same time as Italy. Theoderic the Great left some influences there that last to this day.
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 2 месяца назад
Nice
@richardhalsey3014
@richardhalsey3014 2 месяца назад
I wish I'd had some of this when I was teaching, Stephan! Of course, most of that was pre-internet, and definitely pre-RU-vid! Anyway, thanks!
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 2 месяца назад
Thanks so much! 😌
@EuroDai
@EuroDai 2 месяца назад
A fascinating video Stephan, thank you for your clear explanation and pronunciation. I grew up in the UK and was an adolescent in the 1980s at a time when Goth rock came out following on from the punk era. I always wondered why it was termed 'Goth rock' as I saw no connection with the ancient Germanic tribes that we learned about in school. Maybe the dark, supranatural, mystical elements are just a throw-back to the harsh, pre-Christian dark ages.
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 2 месяца назад
Yes, which is ironic since the Goths were probably among the first to convert, no doubt to seek favor and elevate their own social status vis-a-vis the late Roman Empire which had just recently shed their own pre-Christian beliefs. … I wonder about the same thing … Maybe they should have called themselves Vandal rock, after another East Germanic extinct language group.
@juanfervalencia
@juanfervalencia 2 месяца назад
great video
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 2 месяца назад
Thank you!
@zorrgal
@zorrgal 2 месяца назад
Interesting! Himmelen in swedish is an old spelling, no one says that today in daily speak. We say himmel like the germans. Himmelen is more like "the heaven" but in older swedish, but still used in the prayer. And in Sweden we can say "limpa" a kind of bread which is the same word as loaf, a piece of bread that we slice. En limpa bröd = a loaf of bread. In modern swedish we just say limpa.
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 2 месяца назад
Thanks for sharing! I wonder if Himmelen is a carryover from when Swedish still had noun cases. And, limpa sounds a bit like lump in English. Do you think they might be cognates?
@jc-ui6rb
@jc-ui6rb 2 месяца назад
The case would be 'himlom', which was used in the older version. Compare the -om ending to the -am ending in himinam.
@francisdec1615
@francisdec1615 2 месяца назад
@@jc-ui6rb Yes,there are no cases in this version, but it's dative in the older "Fader Vår, som äst i Himlom".
@JSkitt
@JSkitt 2 месяца назад
It makes sense why germanic language speakers have the highest fluency of English. There's so many similarities among the languages that its easier to learn English.
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 2 месяца назад
Yes, that is one reason. Another is economic necessity as well as opportunity. English is perhaps the most important of the world‘s current linguae francae. Access to education in largely middle-class northern and Central Europe is another important factor.
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 2 месяца назад
Some historians think that the Wulfilas Bible translation was not done by one person but a special committee living in the Byzantine capital of Constantinople which was Greek speaking. The important thing to note is that the Goths and other Germanic peoples converted to Arian Christianity not to Catholic Christianity - this created a lot of problems until later when most Germanic peoples including the Goths converted to Catholic Christianity. "Arian" in this context is not to be confused with the racial/ ethnic term Arian or Aryan.
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 2 месяца назад
Yup, although the schism between the various strands of Christianity (Catholic, Orthodox, Arian, etc.) really happened well after Wulfilas. Thanks for your comment!
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 2 месяца назад
@@loquidity4973 Actually the Arian "heresy" exploded well before the time of Wulfilas and was discussed at the Council of Nicaea under emperor Constantine. But the separation of the Catholic and Orthodox didn't happen until the 11th century. It is also interesting to discuss how other Bible translations and Christian missionary efforts led to the creation of new alphabets and of the writing down of languages as opposed to oral languages. A noted example being Sts Cyril and Methodius who created the Cyrillic alphabet for the Slavs which Russia uses today.Further east the Syriac churches (usually termed Nestorians) dispersed versions of their alphabet throughout the whole of Asia including Mongolia, In more modern times Christian missionaries translated the Bible into virtually every language and dialects and in so doing often created the written versions of these languages for the first time and even codifying their grammar and syntax though almost always they used the Roman alphabet.This positive aspect of Christianity is often not acknowledged as without these translations those languages would have disappeared.
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 2 месяца назад
@@kaloarepo288 Well said!
@EarnestWilliamsGeofferic
@EarnestWilliamsGeofferic 2 месяца назад
Argh! I wanted you to go over 'thana sinteinan'!
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 2 месяца назад
Oh sorry! Let me see if I can include that in another video.
@kerrysterll
@kerrysterll Месяц назад
Ich stecke hier mit Suffixen auf Deutsch fest! Kannst du bitte ein Video über das englische Äquivalent dieser wichtigen Wortenden machen, bitte bitta 😊 Don’t worry I will not judge you 😊
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 Месяц назад
Ich traue mich nicht. I don’t dare to.
@kerrysterll
@kerrysterll 26 дней назад
@@loquidity4973I can’t think of anyone else to explain it better 😊
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 26 дней назад
@@kerrysterllWell, there are many different kinds of endings that serve different purposes. Anglo-Saxon is also highly inflected like that. Let me think about it.
@kerrysterll
@kerrysterll Месяц назад
I love your Latin pronunciation 😅
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 Месяц назад
Oh, thank you!
@kerrysterll
@kerrysterll 26 дней назад
@@loquidity4973sehr viel welcomen
@kerrysterll
@kerrysterll Месяц назад
it looks like swedish uses the English sentence structure 😅
@user-pp6fx7si4g
@user-pp6fx7si4g 2 месяца назад
The "th" sound in some regional Spanish must be from the Goths.
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 2 месяца назад
I suspect the same, but more research would be needed.
@user-pp6fx7si4g
@user-pp6fx7si4g 2 месяца назад
Yup Atta usar....
@kerrysterll
@kerrysterll Месяц назад
What is this word Jah I'm wondering ? Does it mean Jehovah 🎉 l looked it up.
@loquidity4973
@loquidity4973 Месяц назад
I think it is akin to the German particle ”ja” which does not translate easily into English. It‘s kind of like giving a little verbal push.
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