I'm still sad that we missed out on Ben Affleck's The Batman. A Batman movie that's Written & Directed by Batman himself, it doesn't get more perfect than that!
The most fascinating part to me is that despite everyone blaming Snyder for his darker vision, almost every other director/writer who left did so because WB wouldn't let them make a dark film. Ffs, even Ezra Miller and Grant Morrison made a darker Flash script... Should be proof enough that Snyder isn't the one who should take all the blame when 90% of the ones who left all felt DC should be darker regardless of who the project was about.
WB's decision making on the DCEU in a nutshell: "Hey, how about a Deathstroke movie from the guy who did the Raid movies? It's like Peanut Butter and Chocolate mixed together! It'll only take $40 million, too." "Nah, let's blow $70 million on a movie that bombed and lost us fans and credibility."
How different DC could've been if they just commit to their original plans that has a definitive ending. Anyway i Love your videos and how deep you dive in all of these cancelled projects
Committing to original plans would have meant sticking with Snyder's vision that would have seen Superman turn evil and Lois Lane have an affair with Batman. Just no.
It would be great if we could get "Animated Versions" of some of these cancelled movies that are and were connected to the "Snyder Verse" or the "DCEU".
They was greenlighting everything bro. Who asked for a wonder twins movie? It was genuinely frustrating seeing so many fluff projects get announced for the sake of it, it legitimately reached a point where I knew which ones weren't actually going to materialize.
I wanted to see the Batman movie the most, I feel like Joe’s Deathstroke had a lot of potential and seeing him and Batman fight in live action was just a must see, hopefully this new dcu movies will give us what we want
In my opinion, Deathstroke is a complete miscast, and he is the enemy of the Titans, not Batman, so let him fight with them, and Batman will be left with Bane and Joker.
@@WarpingFist For real, and the best part is that it won't be another origin story. I am really curious about what has happened in the DCU before Superman Legacy. What I want to see the most is a live action Batman series, similar to Batman the animated series, following his earlier years, how he met his villains for the fist time and also how he built the batfamily.
@@barnabasgalantai4401 Especially since DC and WB will no longer do that stupid Embargo like the old owners did which was not put Batman himself in a live action tv show not counting Gotham and Titans.
I Wish They Would Of Gone With Snyders Original Plan Even Though Some Of His Films Weren’t Great But I Think He Was Planning A Flashpoint Movie To Reset The Universe Which would Of Led Nicely Into The New DCU.
I don’t think WB was on the same page as Snyder that the dead Robin was Dick Grayson. I seem to recall some officials referring to the dead Robin as Jason, tho I wouldn’t be able to cite those instances off the top of my head But the fact that there was a Nightwing film on the slate I think is enough to indicate this- it’s unlikely Nightwing would be a film about resurrection, and it couldn’t really work as a prequel bc he should have died as a Robin not as Nightwing (if he was dead)
I'm vocal about how Snyder handled it his DCEU, some things i liked like Zod and others i hated like MARTHA, handling Dick Grayson dead instead of Jason irks me to no end. It's like that guy who is insistent on changing things not meant to be broken like Grayson should never not be outta Bruce's life, especially when tackling an older Batman. He needs him, he's his greatest success story and Jason is one of his biggest failures. Changing Todd to him seems like change for the sake. And i do remember SS film saying it was Jason Todd dead, but then Zack says it's Dick or was Dick in he original draft.
For as much as Snyder did well, he also needed to take his head of his own arse. His revision of DC would have been garbage. No one wants a dead Grayson.
If they had actually pushed forward with that, particularly if they legitimately tried to do Red Hood with Dick Grayson, whether he's using the Red Hood moniker or using Nightwing while acting like Red Hood the vitriol it would generate, between Nightwing fans who hate the way Dick is being so out of character, and Jason fans enraged that, 'cause Snyder had done Red Hood with Dick, we'd never get the real Red Hood.
You would think they'd be smart enough to use that as a base Or even better, get Paul Dini and Bruce Timm involved & have them in charge of the DCEU. But no...
I'm really Curious about what The Batman 2018 could have been, since apparently Ben Affleck said he wanted to represent Slade Wilson as the Tragic Hero he is instead of just another Marksman, & Also rhe storyboards of the fights look phenomenal
Justice league 1 and 2 sounds like it would have been great. I like Batfleck too and his movie sounds great as well, but for me he just isn't what Batman should be
Honestly the green lantern movie seemed like it could have fit so well with Zach’s view of this dark gritty world and maybe could have related to superman.
So sad. I miss the hype during those times. DC was on another level! Sadly destroyed by the biased marvel critique and so many hated Snyder. Glad to have been alive during those times though. What a memory
This could've been so great, but in my, admittedly unpopular opinion, Snyder's style killed what we got. At least for me. Although yes, Snyder cut was better than whedons
I use google to search up the topic of the video and simply read articles from reliable sources. If I need info from a long time ago, I use Googles search filter to get articles from the early 2000’s to early 2010’s
phil lord and chris miller also helmed the flash for a bit, dc fired them and they ended up writing and producing into the spider-verse and its sequel.
WW was one of the better DCEU movies, it would’ve been better if there was no Ares. It would’ve grown her character arc to come to terms with man is just evil but can also be compassionate
I really like your content please consider making a video about Logan and / or The Wolverine. Maybe the X-men. It would be really interesting to see if they considered to make more comic accurate costumes instead of black leather.
The same people who hate the idea of Superman turning evil (even though it would’ve been temporary) are the same people who grovel over him turning evil in Injustice (not hating on Injustice I love it too).
Snyder should’ve been the head of DC & Gunn as a main director. They should’ve gave us the Snyderverse then Flash does a 2ns Flashpoint to reset the DCEU/DCU
I personally love the direction Snyder took the DCEU and I wish we could have seen the whole thing play out the way it was intended to. I think Zack Snyder and David S. Goyer crafted the most interesting version of Superman we've ever had. They made him feel like a real guy and I think that should be the ultimate goal of any comic book adaptations. It was the perfect depiction of a real world Superman. Some people look at him like a god and basically worship him. Other people would fear or hate him just because he's different. They would want him gone just for the simple fact that he's an alien. I mean look how people treat other people just because they're a different race. Imagine how someone from an entirely different plant would be treated. No matter how much good he done, some people would never accept him... I just don't understand why people have such an issue with DC being gritty and dark? Since Marvel has a lock on the PG-13 format, why not let DC go full R rated? People can blow smoke up everyone's ass and say R rated movies wouldn't make as much money, but Joker and Deadpool proved that to be nonsense.
I don't know man, I feel that is better to adapt the comic book characters as they are in the comics. It is good to explore new topics with them and change some things. But you never should forget their essences and their substance. Superman is bright and colorful, full of hope, love, and silliness, these are things that we love of him. -Hey, Superman nice suit. -Thanks my mom made it for me. If you want some gritty, dark, heavy, and metal superhero you are free to watch The Boys, Invincible, Spawn, Hellboy, Watchmen, The Authority, and many of Dark Horse comics. Just remember that many of the best complex and realistic Superman stories have a colorful Superman full of hope and love: All-Star, What Happened to the Man of Tomorrow, Superman Peace on Earth, Superman vs The Elite, and DCAU Superman. All of them have adult and complex issues but have the correct tone for Superman. If you think that Snyder's Superman is better or more realistic than DCAU Superman, well I think that you don't know Superman at all.
I think the Robin we saw in BvS was Jason Todd. So I think the Nightwing film would be about Dick Grayson. (Adam Driver was initially in talks to play Nightwing.)
@@WarpingFist Huh! 😳 OK. Personally, I'm not a fan of how Snyder deviated from the source material. Greek gods being Kryptonians and a Batman and Lois Lane romance are terrible ideas to me as a DC fan. Hopefully Gunn can stick to the foundations of DC while also doing his own thing.
Had they made Man of Steel 2 like originally planned I think that would have been good. Either before or after the Man of Steel sequel, there could have been a Batman film set in that universe as well, since it was established by that point Christian Bale wouldn’t play Bruce Wayne/Batman without Christopher Nolan as the director and Nolan is happy with how his trilogy turned out and that his trilogy is it’s own thing and he wanted to do other films after The Dark Knight Rises concluded his trilogy, then focus on other characters for the universe such as a Wonder Woman film, a Flash film, a Green Lantern film, an Aquaman film and then a Justice League film after all the major players had at least one film of their own before coming together at which point those characters could have their own franchises within a bigger franchise and Justice League could be the jumping off point for the Martian Manhunter, who could have been teased in earlier films in cameos as well as perhaps being like the Nick Fury character that brings them all together to form the Justice League rather than what we’ve got now which seems to have had all the essential characters basically introduced in the second film, even if many are in cameo form, just so they could compete with Marvel. It’s sad to think how this could have been a great franchise that could have rivaled the MCU and yet there wasn’t much of a solid foundation given in the first place regarding the direction the universe should go in. Many ideas, yet nobody was there to really be at the helm who had a firm established idea of how everything should be in a first wave of films to get to Justice League.
2:54 this is why Ben Affleck's Batman movie must Happen with The Entire Bat-Family Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne/ Batman Jeremy Irons as Alfred J Pennyworth J.K Simmons as G.C.P.D Commissioner James Gordon Denzel Washington as Lucius Fox Theo James as Dick Grayson/Robin I/Nightwing Leo Howard as Tim Drake/ Robin III/ Red Robin Matthew Daddario as Jason Todd/ Robin II/ Red Hood David Mazouz as Damian Wayne/ Robin Mary Elizabeth Winstead as Helena Bertinelli/Huntress Leslie Grace as Barbara Gordon/ Batgirl Kristen Stewart as Batwoman/ Kate Kane Emily Skinner as Stephanie Brown/Spoiler John Boyega as Duke Thomas/ Signal Freida Pinto as Talia Al Ghul Aubrey Plaza as Selina Kyle/Catwoman Rebecca Ferguson as Andrea Beaumont/ The Phantasm Jared Leto as Jack Napier/Joe Kerr/ The Joker Margot Robbie as Dr. Harleen Quinzel/ Harley Quinn Olivia Wilde as Dr. Pamela Isley/Poison Ivy Samuel Witwer as Harvey Dent/ Two-Face Samuel Barnett as Edward Naston/ Edward Nygma/ The Riddler Jared Harris as Professor Hugo Strange Josh Gad as Oswald J. Cobblepot/ The Penguin Sharlto Copley as Jonathan Crane/ The Scarecrow Eric Stonestreet as Julian Gregory Day/ Calendar Man Michael Sheen as Jervis Tetch/ Mad Hatter Mads Mikkelsen as Jim Craddock/ Gentleman Ghost Michael C. Hall as Thomas Elliot/ Hush Jason Isaacs as Dr. Victor Freeze/ Mr. Freeze Javier Botet as Kirk Langstrom/ Man-Bat Joe Manganiello as Slade Wilson/ Deathstroke Logan Marshall Green as Floyd Lawton/Deadshot Chazz Palminteri as Roman Sionis/ Black Mask Jung Yu-mi as Sandra Wu-San/ Lady Shiva José Alberto Rodríguez as Antonio Diego Lopez Dorrance/ Bane Ghassan Massoud as Henri Ducard/ Ra's Al Ghul
It was doomed from the start, Snyder wanted it too dark, the studio course corrected and tried to make it too much like The Avengers and cancelled anything that looked like it might be as dark as Snyder. Just got off on the wrong foot and never got back on the right foot. The mistake was letting Snyder run things from the start, Superman wasn't Superman, Batman wasn't Batman and now you have a whole cinematic universe running off the foundation of a depressed Superman and a Batman that brands people. Just fucked from the start.
I would have loved Ben Affleck's Batman movie. It's a shame it never got made but the ideas is something I would have loved infinitely more than Matt Reeves Batman movie. Not saying Reeves Batman movie is bad it's good I liked it.
So many DCEU movies & others were financial successes but still “flopped” bc of some dumb bs. And scheduling conflicts shelve a movie of a universe? Then push it back a year & keep working on the story.
To this day i thank god they didn't make a movie where Deathstroke is Batman's life long nemesis. I dunno why Hollywood looks at Batman's legendary rogues gallery and goes "Let's use none of that and instead use this Teen Titans villain that none of the general public knows about, and better yet, let's make him a fundamental part of Batman's life" it would've made more sense if a Nightwing movie was made starring Deathstroke as the main antagonist than a Batman movie. Hollywood is and always will be ashamed of comic books, it doesn't matter how many millions of dollars it makes them. This would've been a bad movie, i don't care if Affleck's Hollywood buddies that know nothing of comics and are ashamed of them say on twitter "it would've been good! Pinky swear!"
@@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511 todo mundo que é fã de histórias em quadrinhos conhece o Deathstroke. Pessoas que só vêem filme de herói de vez em quando não sabe quem é mas nem de longe
It’s a shame we’re stuck with James Gunn’s trash DCU now. It’s like multiple GotG movies with diminishing box office returns. It’s going to be like a kid in his sandbox doing whatever he wants and ignoring common sense. Kind of like say, not finishing Snyder’s universe and firing the best Superman. Even Affleck was disgusted in the direction everything was going and dipped out.
I doubt that the dceu version of batman is stronger than the arkham batman. I played through four of the video games, and it would be impossible for any hand to hand fighters, brawlers, meta humans, aliens, and gods to take him down.
Wasted potential and missed opportunities because anything that resembled a coherent vision was buried by the studio, the biggest enemy of DCU is WB (not Darkside). After setting the tone you cannot change suddenly the plan (even if the praise isn't as huge or all encompassing as you would want). With JL they obviously knew that the fault was theirs, their meddling have brought only harm but they continued to do it anyway. I mean who in their right mind would say that people want to see Blue Beetle instead of another Superman movie?
Even though it seemed promising, having Ben Affleck direct a Batman film felt like a pretty short-sighted choice. Cos it seems like his solo film would've been a one-and-done. Even if he'd have had an amazing time making Justice League it never felt like he was gonna direct more than one Batman film. He doesn't seem like a franchise director, and WB always want their Batman directors to make a bunch of films. Burton, Schumacher, Nolan and now Reeves. With Affleck it never felt like he had a big multi-film plan.
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They took the concept art from Ben Affleck's Batman movie and made it into Matt Reeves Batman suit, and the story was originally written before they went with Christian Bale's Batman, including the Batmobile design and the Batcave in the abandoned Wayne Subway tunnel but they skipped the elements that were based off of The Year One with him as a vigilante with a fake scar before the paint smear and even the final outfit that Selina Kyle is wearing it was the only other reference to Year One.
Bro DC fell off hard the minute they made Justice League,Suicide squad the non canon one and Shazam Hopefully James Gunn will Make all the movies W's Like with Marvel
😂0:07 really? You could’ve use a actual picture of Walter Hamada instead 😂 you use baldi so that means baldi is now the head dceu and we might get a live action baldi because it’s been 2 years ever since they released a video game movie and I think they never made a horror video game movies except they were originally released a fans movie but the creator Scott did not the script so Scott went to blumhouse.
Ben affleck batman movie should have been made and his antagonist will be deathstroke i did see their fight storyboard video and it was awesome 👏 too bad it had cancelled by WB losers
@@WL1264 As much as I enjoy many parts of BvS, it was the reason the DCEU ultimately died before it really began. It was overstuffed and blew its load too early, eating up numerous comic book story lines, doing an awful job of introducing other future JL members (besides Diana…probably the one great part of the film, in addition to the warehouse fight). As much as I don’t need Joker in everything, it would have made a heck of a lot of sense to have Joker and Lex team up. Even though that would probably mean we wouldn’t get WW’s ridiculously iconic entrance
Just imagine if DC wasn't owned by WB. I mean WB could be way bigger than Disney by a landslide with all these characters but no they are just massive fuckups.
Well, I'd argue that Disney would still be bigger even if WB nailed DC. Disney already owns Marvel which is pretty huge, but they also own stuff like Star Wars. Not to mention all their theme parks, other IPs, and just general brand.
the whole idea was just bullshit, for me, okay they were not going do from origin stories, then why man of steel origin, okay fine, if they did that they should have set it in past, and included green lantern movie despite its backdrops. i dont like justice league without hal jordan and martian manhunter and thats it, founding members.
I don’t understand how what I said was false or inaccurate. I always make sure that my information is as up to date as possible so it always bothers me if I somehow got something wrong. Maybe you can inform me about how I was being inaccurate or shared false info? Maybe there’s an interview I missed?
Thank god no more snyder crap movies. He did man of steel which was awesome to crap like bvs that was pure garbage at best and the rest ahh rather watch paint dry as that is being the nicest thing i can say about his movie's
