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Isn't this a fun Follow Up to FNaF: Lore Bites - Episode 4, I sure thought so. This video is basically that first one but with a whole lot more information and insight than the first. A lot of the stuff I learned in this video really convinced my of some things and I hope it can do the same for some of you, and if not then please tell me why in the comments.
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@HoneyButter83
@HoneyButter83 Год назад
I like how we pay attention to the details and yet Scott or whoever made the posters gave chica yellow legs on one poster and orange more bird-like legs on the other one (4:09)
@trentandjaketv6669
@trentandjaketv6669 3 года назад
Really cool theory! Never thought of the mini games this way and I am convinced cause this makes a lot of sense.
@mrb5940
@mrb5940 3 года назад
I still don't agree with this theory for the leaps in logic it makes, but I have to admit that this video gives more proof that definitely helps the theory a lot I still think is not a good idea to base theorys around the minigame sprite designs tho, Scott is not consistent with stuff as the models, and he isn't either with the sprites Honestly, I think the buttons stuff is a good point, but saying that this generation of Bonnie had bluish skin that got rid off in favor of a more purple one? I think not mentioning this would have made the theory better, becuse it again relies on something is not even consistent in Even after I said all of that, this video was really good and your theory definitely has some really good points that should probably be more considered in the community, great video ^^ I just don't agree with this theory, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have some really nice evidence and presents a really interesting concept, a "lost" generation of Fnaf Great video!
@NobodyUndefined
@NobodyUndefined 3 года назад
I don't think it's fair to say that Scott isn't consistent with models. If anything he's so consistent it's making me believe it even more. Matpat made theories based off the number of toes on certain animatronics, I agree it's far fetched to base off the color of the sprite but Scott is good with details.
@whoce2821
@whoce2821 3 года назад
Interesting theory, but sprites in this franchise have never been consistent. For example: - William has two completely different sprites in the same game (FNAF 2). - The same happened to Foxybro in FNAF 4. - The Fredbear next to the door has a button on his belly, while the Fredbear suits don't. - There's three different Spring Bonnie designs in the FNAF 4 minigames.
@benjaminnrgaard5266
@benjaminnrgaard5266 3 года назад
1. Purple guy has 2 different spirtes in FNAF 2, to distinguish MCI William with FNAF 2 era William. 2. “Foxybro”, I like to call him Michael Cuz it’s confirmed in the FF books, has most likely changed spirtes Cuz something happent to him between “night 4” and “night 5” in FNAF 4. I think William turned Michael into a humanoid, with the whole FF book theme with swapping bodies and that they made a hint that Michael died in an accedent, and William used the SCOOPER to do it. 3. What are you referring to exactly? 4. There are 3 different Spring Bonnie designs, but they are not the same. We can see the more Brown Spring suit is part of ScrapTrap in FNAF 6. And he used the old Spring bonnie suit from the FNAF 3 minigame “stage 1” to be springlocked in. The third can be seen in Parts and Service but not really used for all we know. But there is in all 3 clear destinations between the 3, there are not the same suit. The FNAF franchise is exactly consistent, you just need to find out how it works together.
@whoce2821
@whoce2821 3 года назад
@@benjaminnrgaard5266 1. Fair enough. 2. No evidence and why would William even do that. 3. In the FNAF 4 minigames, the Fredbear thing that's next to the door of Fredbear's has a button on his belly, meanwhile the suits worn by employees don't. 4. I was talking about the one on stage, the one in the Purple Guy easter egg and the one in P&S room. They all look different, yet they have no reason to. And besides, these aren't even all of the inconsistencies, there are plenty more. These are just a few examples.
@benjaminnrgaard5266
@benjaminnrgaard5266 3 года назад
@@whoce2821 2. Michael needs to become a humanoid at some point. And we see he has no silver eyes in night 2-3, but has silver eyes and different skin in night 5. It indicates that Michael has been chanced to a humaniod. And William is the o ly one with the tech to do so. The evidence is clearly there and also hinted so many times in the FF books. 4. I think they kinda look the same. The suit has just been damaged alot over the years. Like 10-30+ years or so. It would therefore have a different visual appeal.
@frknmtl7832
@frknmtl7832 8 месяцев назад
But if you take a look at the drawings in fazbears fright, you will notice that in these drawings bonnie has buttons and chica lacks her bib, just like in post-night minigames
@IanMooreMedia
@IanMooreMedia 3 года назад
Great video I really enjoy these traditional style FNaF theory videos and the theory that the FNaF 3 mini games happened before FNaF 3 has been around since 2017 in the timeline matpat made and logically this makes more sense but from a story telling stand point it isn't as good but I think this theory has some bone to it and won't be surprised if this theory is true
@OzoneYT
@OzoneYT 3 года назад
It's a good day when you wake up to an Under_Score video
@caldercockatoo2234
@caldercockatoo2234 3 года назад
I actually really like the concept of there being a lost generation of animatronics in the FNaF 3 minigames.
@Under_Score
@Under_Score 3 года назад
Thank You very much I like the idea tooo
@caldercockatoo2234
@caldercockatoo2234 3 года назад
@@Under_Score No problem!
@camdengonda
@camdengonda 3 года назад
Yeah I initially agreed with the first video but the foxy sprite evidence wasn’t the best. Glad you came back with more. :)
@DSLSUX22
@DSLSUX22 3 года назад
The playlist for this should also be on Spotify as a podcast so Most of us won’t want to have to keep our phone/ computer on
@Under_Score
@Under_Score 3 года назад
That’s a great idea!
@DSLSUX22
@DSLSUX22 3 года назад
I know
@DSLSUX22
@DSLSUX22 3 года назад
Maybe you should put most of your Theory’s on Spotify/ other things
@xander_404
@xander_404 3 года назад
What I think they would look like in animatronic form is a mixture of FNaF's 1 variants and FNaF 2 withered's variants of Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, and Foxy almost like a prototype to imagine it a bit more easier
@IneffableBre
@IneffableBre Год назад
I think this fits much better, honestly! I'm working on my own timeline theory, and this definitely helped!
@giovannifranco-gonzalez9037
@giovannifranco-gonzalez9037 2 года назад
I'm new to this channel but I al-ready like this channel.
@ironwave99
@ironwave99 3 года назад
You're right, you are our favorite fnaf theorist
@sansbehindtheslaughter
@sansbehindtheslaughter 3 года назад
Yes
@WillyExplains
@WillyExplains 3 года назад
@@sansbehindtheslaughter ⬆️
@giovannifranco-gonzalez9037
@giovannifranco-gonzalez9037 2 года назад
I've been thinking this too.
@critzcraig3901
@critzcraig3901 3 года назад
This is a cool idea, and I have 2 things to say about it. First of all i think this is a great thing to think about, and I had been theorising a similar thing for the Fredbear-era, about the Nightmare animatronics being based on (or illusion-disc modified versions of) Spring suits of the main 4 characters (Possibly even the rockstars based on design similarities). Second of all, the main concern I have with this theory, is that William would have HAD to destroy the characters when the location had closed in order for him to melt down the animatronics and use their remnant to bring the Funtimes to life, otherwise they wouldn’t need to form Ennard and escape, and Molten Freddy wouldn’t be a requirement for FNAF6.
@PurpleBirdProductions
@PurpleBirdProductions 3 года назад
Nice theory. That’s a really interesting idea.
@electrobird1232
@electrobird1232 3 года назад
This channel is very underrated
@BOBimusRex
@BOBimusRex Год назад
2:34 Wow, I never noticed how different the fnaf1 animatronics are from the same animatronics from fnaf 2. Supposedly the "withered animatronics" were refurbished into the fnaf1 animatronics, but bonnie is a different color, Freddy's bow tie got rounder, his torso got longer and fatter, and of course they ditched the buttons. That being said, Scott would have had to make significantly larger sprites just to include a second button on the chest, without it just looking like a black line. And theoretically the second button could be there, but we're looking down at the animatronics from a high up angle, and the top button is being covered up by the bow tie. I don't see why it matters if Will died before or after fnaf 1, so long as it happens after Fnaf2 and before Fnaf3, it makes no difference. Foxy having fully brown legs is a bit odd, but not enough to justify the inclusion of a whole other haunted band, mci, etc.
@amandasheperd3899
@amandasheperd3899 3 года назад
You know I like how you actually go in dept in fnaf you need to be the next mat pat keep it up man
@jurassiccustoms8313
@jurassiccustoms8313 2 года назад
I have to say I think your on to something with all these theories
@starry..n0rm4n..___82
@starry..n0rm4n..___82 2 года назад
A detail i noticed, on the bonnie poster chica has orange feet, but on the one where its just her, they are yellow.
@ghostxtbxtbitxtbite9497
@ghostxtbxtbitxtbite9497 3 года назад
Really am glad he uploaded his videos more faster
@gavinfriesen5407
@gavinfriesen5407 Год назад
Love your videos I've binged all of them
@theclassybaryonyx
@theclassybaryonyx 3 года назад
I have a small bit of not evidence but maybe logic for it not being after fnaf 1 It makes more sense for someone coming in to a pizzeria that is work in progress and boarding up the safe room instead of someone coming in after the pizzeria has been closed for long enough for the roof to cave in and board up the room
@benjaminnrgaard5266
@benjaminnrgaard5266 3 года назад
Phone guy in FNAF 3 did say that they will board up the place after the MCI. But maybe that was reopened in 1988, but boarded up again when they found the broken animatronics and Springtrap in 1988.
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 Год назад
​@@benjaminnrgaard5266i always see that willian in 1995 reopened the safe room from 85, like, he knows how to open a safe room, he's the one of the 2 boss from the company
@jjrobotnik
@jjrobotnik 2 года назад
They could also be some prototype form of the rockstar animatronics because Bonnie's color and foxys lack of pants after all the faz facts say the rockstars were made from scraps.
@agonyremnanttrap6789
@agonyremnanttrap6789 3 года назад
Good Theory, I really like and appreciate it! Your theories are amazing and awesome
@murilog.p.1383
@murilog.p.1383 2 года назад
honestly, this theory explains SO MUCH! why weren't there any murderes in the 88-93 location? why was the saferoom sealed after the place was abandoned? why do the characters look diferent in the sprites? hell, WHY IS FOXY OUT OF ORDER!? we asked ourselfs that multiple times, at first it seemed obvious, he did The Bite of 87, but than fnaf 2 came along and revealed he was in the backroom during the bite, than The Silver Eyes revealed that his endo was defective and would constantly twich and shake, but than comes The Fourth Closet and revealed it wasn't even his endo! not to mention that him being out of order doesen't explain the tears in his cosmetics, but this theory has found a way to explain all of those questions! congradulations!
@freegracetruth77
@freegracetruth77 2 года назад
One thing about this theory is that it would be necessary to consider whether the spirits knew if William was still possessing the suit. If they knew william was still possessing the suit, then the animatronics would have a reason to still be possessed and hostile in fnaf 1. However, if they knew William was still "alive" and in the saferoom locked away, then why do they attempt to kill the player (Mike schmidt or Michael afton). The Animatronics' hostility towards the night guard, in particular, has always been attributed to the childrens' souls mistaking the night guard, or Michael, for William, but if WIlliam is already springtrap in fnaf 1 the animatronics would have no reason to do this because they would know where William is. If the spirits didn't know WIlliam survived (and thought he was dead), their souls would have been freed, and they would have no reason to possess the animatronics in the first place.
@murilog.p.1383
@murilog.p.1383 2 года назад
@@freegracetruth77 The animatronics don't attack the player because he looks like William, The Silver Eyes explained that the spirits forget their killer, all they know is that it was a grown-up that took away their happiest day, it seems that Cassidy and Charlie where the only victims that saw their killer's face.
@freegracetruth77
@freegracetruth77 2 года назад
@@murilog.p.1383 The books aren't necessarily true, and if Cassidy and Charlie cold recognize William, they would implicatively be able to distinguish him from other adults, but this is clearly not true, considering that both golden Freddy and the puppet, who are possessed by Cassidy and charlie respectively, still attack you in the game, which shouldn't happen if they knew you were not William
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 Год назад
In my opinion willian in 1995 KNOWS how to reopen the safe room from 1985
@sensevison1464
@sensevison1464 2 года назад
i find it really hard to believe that scott would throw this "lost generation" of animatronics in the fnaf 3 minigames, and then never mention them ever again, not in any books, not in any games it doesn't make sense
@giovannifranco-gonzalez9037
@giovannifranco-gonzalez9037 2 года назад
I'm thinking FNaF-3 took place in 2013.
@Cubick
@Cubick 3 года назад
MatPat’s lost cousin 😳
@Withered_Freddy
@Withered_Freddy 2 года назад
The Withereds should make a comeback in security breach
@chaysonator0783
@chaysonator0783 3 года назад
These videos are pretty good! I got a sticker of your pfp.
@giovannifranco-gonzalez9037
@giovannifranco-gonzalez9037 2 года назад
I thought that that took place in 1987 hec,k even 1983..
@-nightsky-449
@-nightsky-449 3 года назад
I like your theories but I heavily disagree. One mistake the fandom keeps making is taking the 8bit sprites designes as 100% canon, while most of the time they are heavily stylised. The same game (fnaf 3) has sprites of balloon boy with red and white stripes, mangle with purple eyes and fully white and shadow bonnie being fully purple. The same can be said about other fnaf sprites (fredbears eye color being brown in fnaf 4, mangle being fully pink in fnaf 2s save me minigame, bonnie always being depicted as bright blue...) I know details matter in fnaf games but overanalyzing the 8bit sprites just makes things way more complicated over something that was probably just a design choice to fit the 8bit style.
@danaugg9183
@danaugg9183 3 года назад
But look at those posters
@ThelgreatestRisx
@ThelgreatestRisx 3 года назад
I like the theory but Scott never uses the same sprite in 2 miny Game sprites even for the same characters are the same but hey this is Scott coffin also chica has no bib
@boearls335
@boearls335 2 года назад
Your videos are amazing. Keep ‘em coming. !!
@bobcinematics
@bobcinematics Год назад
My theory not related Also why we don’t see much at fnaf 3 Location is most likely they took most of the Reminders of everything but forgot a lot and not checking the back rooms
@SomeD00D01
@SomeD00D01 3 года назад
Pog I need to watch these series
@chair448
@chair448 3 года назад
Its interesting evidence, and i agree with the idea that it happened before the closure, but dont know if these were actually intetional because i dont take the things that happen in the minigames to be very literal. I think the reason bonnies blue is to make him distinct from purple guys sprite (and because shadow bonnie is later depicted as purple in the good ending minigames). I try to put myself in the mind of scott when examining weird inconsistencies like foxys leg color and i think it may have just been like that because he shared a body and leg sprite between all of them and got a bit lazy on foxy. I always considered the messages from fnaf 3 about them boarding up the room to be after they found williams body, which is why it was immediate and nobody was allowed to go back in to grab anything. So i agree, just not for these reasons lmao
@benjaminnrgaard5266
@benjaminnrgaard5266 3 года назад
1. Do you have evidence that all the minigames should not be taken too literal? Cuz Cuz right now you are just saying without evidence that 50% ish of FNAF lore should not be taken literal. In that logic FNAF can’t be solved. 2. Do you have evidence for that it was exactly what Scott was thinking? There is more evidence supporting that the FNAF 3 minigame is in 1988.
@illcomeupwithaname4323
@illcomeupwithaname4323 2 года назад
foxy DOES have normal legs but he doesnt have his pants sooooo i think its just a error by scott
@kaelanimacoes
@kaelanimacoes Год назад
But why then are the FNAF 1 animatronics possed during the game? Did they reuse the parts of the "lost generation" to make the FNAF 1 animatronics?
@zell8873
@zell8873 3 года назад
my only issue here would by why are these suits possed? or is it the idea that theses suits destruction had nothing to do with the spirits retaliation?
@the-wizard-nutTc
@the-wizard-nutTc 3 года назад
But what if thoose acade sprites,posters and boble heads were just prototypes or false advertiesments
@bobcinematics
@bobcinematics Год назад
It’s possible they wanted to reopen so they fixed foxy
@spookyscaryskeleton3513
@spookyscaryskeleton3513 3 года назад
Well, this is an interesting theory, though, there's some parts that I don't exactly agree with, like the Foxy go go go! minigame, almost everyone thinks that the Foxy in the minigame is Withered Foxy , which I disagree with, I believe that's FNAF 1 Foxy before he was out of order (hence him probably having no damaged suit and the suit legs (possibly his suit hand) missing because this location was running on a low budget, and seeing FNAF plus' Chica, I think it makes sense), and, because of these random dead Five children, the employees thought he was a danger, hence him being out of order in the first game, I could even enforce this by the fact that in the second game (while never explained) there were cutscenes with the FNAF 1 animatronics, but Foxy was never in them, there was the question about why he was out of order in the first game, I think the rest is explainable on its own. Second thing would be the 8 bit design in the FNAF 3 minigames and the FNAF 1 animatronic's body parts around Fazbear's fright, first, we could just say that the minigame design shouldn't really matter as literally ever other 8bit design isn't entirely accurate to the 3D design in game, but let's work the other way, FNAF 3 was made in a really short time, it wouldn't be weird to me that Scott would reuse some assets or be a lil bit lazy sometimes, so Foxy being entirely red (no pants or anything) doesn't really make me think that it's a different animatronic, it just shows how quick this game was made (and it ain't bad). We could also take the fact the location looks even more rundown and abandoned than the one in FNAF 1, there are rats running around, there are water leaks everywhere, and doors are boarded up, which isn't the case in FNAF 1, which is open and none of the things mentioned have happened yet (Or they were never shown in game), which still makes me think that this happens after FNAF 1 and not before, there's also the FNAF 1 suit stands in Fazbear's fright, that while Phone dude said that soem of it could be cosplay or just a cheap recreation, if they wanted to be super authentic, they'd go take the parts from the location itself, which makes sense since they got Springtrap from there. This took a while to type out and there's probably a bunch of spelling erros that I didn't find, but ye, these are my points as to why I don't exactly believe the theory, but it could be right tho.
@benjaminnrgaard5266
@benjaminnrgaard5266 3 года назад
To start with: 1. How do you know that the Foxy go go go minigame has anything to do with Foxy being broken at FNAF 1? It’s 2 different years we are talking about. The first year is in 80’s (the minigame) the other is in 90’s (FNAF 1). 2. How do you know that the different kinds of spirtes in FNAF 3 is irrelevant? If we thought of it in that way you can just take out any evidence from the games and say “it’s becuase Scott was busy”. 3. And if we take this in consideraton that the spirtes are made different for a reason, then we can clearly say that the FNAF 3 minigame is in 1988. It would also give a logical reason for why Foxy is out of order in FNAF 1, Cuz he was broken down by William and FE did not have the money to repair him completely. It’s fair that you think that Scott just ruched the FNAF 3 game, but you have no evidence. But there is evidence for the FNAF 3 minigame to be in 1988, and it’s a much stronger evidence than the minigame being post 1993 (just underscore’s Watch the video).
@spookyscaryskeleton3513
@spookyscaryskeleton3513 3 года назад
@@benjaminnrgaard5266 1. How do you know that the Foxy go go go! minigame has anything to do with the original Foxy in the 80's? Purple guy being there? He was let go at the time because there was no evidence to really charge him, so him being in the FNAF 1 location can make sense (And knowing how Fazbear ent. was losing employees due to the animatronics' aggresiveness towards them (Phone guy's death and all of that), William could've snuck in and killed more kids), the five kids? There's a good point, though, knowing that in the Original Freddy's and Fnaf 2's locations William killed 5 children (possibly 6 in FNAF 2) on each, it wouldn't be weird to me that he did a third row in FNAF 1. I'll leave it here so I'll go to the second point of yours. 2. I know it's irrelevant because the sprites always change in every game, in the FNAF 2 "SAVE THEM" minigame, we play as withered Freddy following the Puppet around, yet the sprite looks almost nothing like him, in other minigames the same thing happens, the designs don't look entirely accurate to what they're supposed to represent, in FNAF 3 the same thing would happen with the FNAF 1 robots, they don't look like their actual designs. 3. Going back to point 2., and some new stuff, even if we take the sprites into consideration, you need to explain to me why the place looks even worse than FNAF 1 already did. The entrance is boarded up, if they were actively trying to reopen, they woudln't board up the place, nor would there be water leaks and rats everywhere with the animatronics already inside (That would be a fatal error from Fazbear ent.'s part if that was the actual case). There's also the fact that smell in FNAF matters, and there was never anything related to weird smells coming from unknown places (only the robots). And those are my points to fight yours, I do have evidence as to why the sprites are the way they are, the "Foxy go go go!" minigame would be set in 1993, and so would be the FNAF 3 minigames.
@benjaminnrgaard5266
@benjaminnrgaard5266 3 года назад
@@spookyscaryskeleton3513 1. Why would the 5th dead child in Foxy Go Go Go minigame stand up after being killed, if that child was not Cassidy. It clearly states that this child is special. So the Foxy Go Go Go minigame is in the 80's. 2 and 3. Fair, some things in FNAF on the spirtes are unconsistent, but I think some spirtes choses does have a meaning. And the fnaf books are the only ones who can hint what is a random different spirte choice and what is a meaningfull spirte change to the story.
@spookyscaryskeleton3513
@spookyscaryskeleton3513 3 года назад
@@benjaminnrgaard5266 1. No child in the the Foxy go go go! minigame stands up at all, when they're all shown dead (Third time Foxy goes to them), they're all sitting on the ground (or something similar, maybe they're all standig up looking sad, hard to tell), none of the five children in there will ever stand up, so idk what you're talking about here... 2 and 3. It's all speculation, I also think some sprites in the games could matter, but knowing that they always change through the games, I don't really use them to make my points, so I rely on other things instead.
@benjaminnrgaard5266
@benjaminnrgaard5266 3 года назад
@@spookyscaryskeleton3513 1. And this image too i.ytimg.com/vi/4xtUHgZWP4A/maxresdefault.jpg . The child is clearly the only one being sad, meaning again, the kid is out of the norm. Golden Freddy is out of the norm.
@alphawolf8503
@alphawolf8503 2 года назад
Ok let's assume this theory is true then explain to me how the animatronic's are able to come after you in fnaf 1 and why they come after you in fnaf 1 because if this theory is true that would mean the children's souls where freed before fnaf 1 witch means they cannot be active in fnaf 1 I think in order for the timeline to make sense william has to get springlocked after fnaf 1 not before or during fnaf 1 but I do like your video man please do keep it up I do enjoy watching them
@aztopt5632
@aztopt5632 3 года назад
This theory is amazing
@mango9808
@mango9808 3 года назад
I really like your theories, they are so unteresting! But to really succeed and become famous I think you should sound energetic and fun to hear. Don't get me wrong I like your voice it's just the way you speak.
@SuperSega
@SuperSega 3 года назад
love the video, really good. But what if somehow the animatronics died, then a few years later at least then that's when the spring locks happen? would that be possible?
@Under_Score
@Under_Score 3 года назад
I'd say odds are William destroys the Animatronics and dies all in the same night.
@michaelliggett1622
@michaelliggett1622 3 года назад
@@Under_Score literally the souls were pissed as their animatronic were destroyed he was probably not going to risk a multiple night endeavor on this the souls would get wise to what he was doing
@michaelliggett1622
@michaelliggett1622 3 года назад
I will note in what we found and fnaf 3 it basically confirmed springtrap was found in another location maybe it was not the fnaf 1 location they found springtrap but another location that they moved the what would become the originals from to the new location a location we only see in that Minigame maybe those animatronic are what originals were before being redesigned for the fnaf 1 location
@Under_Score
@Under_Score 3 года назад
Springtraps really gotta come from the FNaF 1 location, we don't ever see anywhere else, we know the place was left to rot like in the minigames, and they're the exact same map so there wouldn't be much use for some rando location we've never seen to exist when the probability that it's simply the pre FNaF 1 location is high.
@danmakuSuki
@danmakuSuki 3 года назад
Under_Score! What are your thoughts on freevictim?
@goldenshadow9221
@goldenshadow9221 3 года назад
How come the animatronics are moving in the fnaf 3 mini games if there a different generation? (btw amazing video this is something Scott would DEFINITELY add to throw us off but you find those pieces and put them together great work!)
@stuffedcrustpizza6659
@stuffedcrustpizza6659 3 года назад
They’re moving because they’re possessed.
@michaelliggett1622
@michaelliggett1622 3 года назад
Basically the logic is that mci kids souls went from the withered to these and then killed William then went on to fnaf 1 gang
@michaelc.8712
@michaelc.8712 2 года назад
As you pointed out yourself in the previous videos, the minigame designs have never been 100% accurate. The same applies here. These are sprites, so every detail can't really be put in. Now you might say that in that case, why add the buttons at all? And to that I have a somewhat unpopular opinion to say in regards to the Unwithered designs: they ain't a thing. Or, to put it simply, the redesign is canon, the changes were made to allow for the withering to look and fit better with the designs Scott had in mind, and aren't meant to be different things in-universe Fredbear is seen in UCN, and it has the exact same design as Classic Freddy, not Withered Freddy. The FNAF 6 intro uses Unwithered Freddy and FNAF 1 Freddy interchangeably. The Unwithered characters aren't a thing in FNAF World. The FNAF 2 dream sequences, which are seemingly meant to parallel The Puppet giving life to the animatronics, use the FNAF 1 designs. But the main point is: it's well established that for a soul to be in one thing, it has to have a connection to another thing. Whether it be them straight up being the same Endoskeleton, a battery being given from one to another or a bit of melted metal being injected in them. Now, with Withered animatronics, and the Classic animatronics, despite their overall appearance, not a single part from one design to another is fully consistent. There isn't one bit in their costumes or Endos that could be taken from one and put in the other, and still look the same. And that would make them both being possessed by the same souls impossible, even though we know that's the case.
@saladlady8469
@saladlady8469 3 года назад
What if the more complete foxy could be rockstar foxy
@Mitol-7
@Mitol-7 Год назад
Ok I know I am late on this but why does chica have different legs. Ther are different in poster 1 and 3 4:21
@maggieristick2810
@maggieristick2810 2 года назад
Now- I genuinely don’t mean to poke a hole in your Theory- But- your missing one critical detail about these posters. In Fnaf3 there is an Easter egg of a Spring Bonnie poster in the same art style. This means that these posters had to come from a location that used spring Bonnie as a bot- most likely the first Freddy Fazbear’s, unless they were planning to use spring Bonnie again in the 93’ location which is unlikely due to the age of the character, history of said character, and cost of updating the original robot model. I hope this helps explains why I believe this is after the 93’ location.
@manuelrodriguez6864
@manuelrodriguez6864 3 года назад
I wanna see them in their SFM forms
@Under_Score
@Under_Score 3 года назад
Same
@unk9192
@unk9192 3 года назад
waiting for the next game theory video reaction, cmon man he just did a fnaf video
@pepsifilms5474
@pepsifilms5474 3 года назад
But we see the souls fade away after William gets springlocked but the souls are now suddenly possessing the fnaf 1 animatronics who you think are different from the “lost generation”.
@benjaminnrgaard5266
@benjaminnrgaard5266 3 года назад
They are not free, just as you see Golden Freddy fade away in FNAF 2 does not mean they have left. Golden Freddy just appears again. The spirits still all have unfiniched business. Cuz William will still possess the spring bonnie suit. And we see that the spirits still at haunted in FNAF 3 Cuz of the many hallucinations Michael is experiencing.
@freegracetruth77
@freegracetruth77 2 года назад
​@@benjaminnrgaard5266 One thing about this theory is that it would be necessary to consider whether the spirits knew if William was still possessing the suit. If they knew william was still possessing the suit, then the animatronics would have a reason to still be possessed in fnaf 1. However, if they knew William was still "alive" and in the saferoom locked away, then why do they attempt to kill the player (Mike schmidt or Michael afton). The Animatronics' hostility towards the night guard, in particular, has always been attributed to the childrens' souls mistaking the night guard, or Michael, for William, but if WIlliam is already springtrap in fnaf 1 the animatronics don't have a reason to confuse Michael for WIlliam because they would already know where William is.
@saladlady8469
@saladlady8469 3 года назад
If these are different animatronics in a different generation does that mean different souls are possessing them than the ones we thought?
@stuffedcrustpizza6659
@stuffedcrustpizza6659 3 года назад
No, still the same souls, think of it like the Withereds and Classics, same souls, different bodies.
@saladlady8469
@saladlady8469 3 года назад
@@stuffedcrustpizza6659 ahhh okay
@ark_awaits3367
@ark_awaits3367 2 года назад
I am sorry but I (respectfully) disagree that we should even consider that these animatronics are not the animatronics from fnaf1. I don't think we should be using differences in the designs of the animatronics in mini game form as proof to support any theory. It's like using Evan's (C.C.'s) sprite from FNAF4 as supporting evidence for Mike being the bite victim. Or using different Purple guy sprites as evidence that their is 2 killers in the lore. So basically ( in my opinion) this is not even worth starting a conversation over. The map of the fnaf3 bad ending mini games perfectly matches the map of the FNAF1 location. Therefore we can at least confirm that these mini games take place within the FNAF1 location. You might be able to say, "maybe they swapped animatronics?" Or "Maybe the los gen animatronics were the temporary animatronics until the withered's were fully repaired to go back in usage?" After all, you do say that you speculate that these fnaf3 bad ending mini games take place early 1988. This would mean that William Afton was spring locked early 1988. However the idea of William getting spring locked in early '88 creates a couple of plot holes and loose threads within the lore. If William dies a spring lock failure in '88 he also must have disassembled the animatronics in 1988 however the evidence for that pales when In comparison to the concept of William getting spring locked after FNAF1. Notice that William disassembled the animatronics, while, you may think that this can be used as proof for the 'lost gen spring lock 1988' theory as they were disassembled, it makes total sense to replace them, right? Yes but actually no. Notice in FNAF3 at the Fazbear's Fright the FNAF1 animatronics are left broken in peices disassembled. Scattered around the map. To me the logical conclusion seems to be that the FNAF3 bad ending mini games take place sometime after FNAF1 and around the same time as SL. Oh, speaking of SL, this theory would imply SL takes place before FNAF1. This must be false. Yes, there are proof supporting the concept of SL taking place pre-FNAF1 however that proof is...well, quite limited. And my limited, we are talking limited to a joke at the end of the game. While, yes evidence of FNAF1 being before SL is the same, logically I think it makes the most sense in the lore for SL to be after FNAF1 because SL and onward Michael goes on a mission to find and end his farther once and for all, and to free the souls of those that fell into his father's wicked touch. If SL (like your theory must imply takes place around early-mid 1988) is before FNAF1 taking place 1988 this would mean that Michael starts his mission of freeing the souls of his father's victims and to end his farther sending him off to hell, goes to the 1995 Fazbear's location for this reason, gets fired for tampering with the animatronics and 'oder', then does nothing about it for 20 years. I don't think I need to explain what is wrong with this. Then you mention the FNAF3 posters. For all we know it could just be the art style or something because I doubt we'll find something from overanalyzing friendly looking marketable posters that we can see throughout the full game. All in all I think your just overanalyzing details in an safari type 8 bit in between nights mini games, from FNAF3. Thank you for reading my little TED talk.
@stuffedcrustpizza6659
@stuffedcrustpizza6659 3 года назад
Interesting theory, I actually don’t mind if this ends up becoming true I just have one question. Why is the building still so damaged, wouldn’t they repair the building before repairing the animatronics?
@Under_Score
@Under_Score 3 года назад
That's still a big problem, though if that's the only evidence against it then I don't feel too phased. Sometimes it comes down to which theory has more evidence and less plotholes under the assumption that both have plotholes. I don't exactly know why they'd fix the Animatronics and leave them their before fixing the building, though I'd assume it was just some sort of corporate choice, unfortunately there isn't a good answer.
@stuffedcrustpizza6659
@stuffedcrustpizza6659 3 года назад
@oliver I mean wouldn’t it be better to fix the building first so the Animatronics don’t get wet or stolen or whatever.
@SubZero-hs9xc
@SubZero-hs9xc 3 года назад
Yeaaaah new video!!!
@gongas0431
@gongas0431 3 года назад
Really liked the vid but how does this work with Goldenduo(since you believe it) if william has taken remnant from gf how does he show in the gameplay or is it just cassidy, i dunno it seems wierd . And why do i have a feeling your next lore bite's will be about fnaf 6
@IanMooreMedia
@IanMooreMedia 3 года назад
It was never shown that golden freddy was dismantled
@gongas0431
@gongas0431 3 года назад
@@IanMooreMedia yeah but every MoltenMci evidence is with 5 things not 4
@michaelliggett1622
@michaelliggett1622 3 года назад
@@gongas0431 molten mci is highly unlikely in the game timeline or it remement from another set of souls as it confirmed that the funtimes were some of the first animatronics confirmed in a fazfact plus due to the vengeful spirit using the mediocre melodys shows that golden freddy is not part of molten mci
@gongas0431
@gongas0431 3 года назад
@@michaelliggett1622i dont know why are you bringing the faz facts because william only built the funtimes making it his firat and CBPW lilely opened in 83 and the whole new set of kid doesnt really have much evidence its really just they are supossesed to kill and even then why havent we see them in a minigame or something
@michaelliggett1622
@michaelliggett1622 3 года назад
@@gongas0431 the point is for molten mci to work in game timeline the remement as it confirmed the funtimes had remement built into them from their blueprints this mean the remement would had to already be in the funtime despite the fact the souls are still in the other during animatronics fnaf 1 and we have seen one other set the dci but those wernt stuffed in suits in fnaf 2 their kids dead on the ground in the Minigames
@ayuubabdi9053
@ayuubabdi9053 3 года назад
I love the video but I disagree with this video, since for 1. The minigames design aren't accurate, for example, foxybro from FNAF 4, William afton, and foxy from foxy go go go minigame, since his legs are different, so the minigames design aren't accurate, and literal. 2. How does the poster proves that William die in 1988, since there is a spring Bonnie poster in FNAF 3 which implies that the posters were probably created in 1983. But hey I still love your videos anyways.
@alyssonpinheiromelo451
@alyssonpinheiromelo451 3 года назад
Welp more killer robots on my list😀🔫
@pickleboi934
@pickleboi934 3 года назад
Great video. However there is one thing that is being overlooked with this theory. William afton's death has to happen after fnaf 1 because in fnaf 1 the animatronics are still possesed. Yet in the final minigame we see the spirits dissapear after william dies. And after this we never see the spirits of the orginal animatronics ever again within the story. It cannot take place before fnaf 1 because why would the animatronics still be possesed if the spirits already left? And about the 8bit sprites. When it comes to fnaf 8 bit sprites they are very simple and kinda crude representations of the characters i dont think we should look at them this deeply. I mean all the characters are copies of themselfs with differend colors and a differend head. I cant help to think that you might be looking a bit to deep into something that prob doesnt mean anything. But yeah thats my counter argument to this theory. Williams death just cant take place before fnaf 1 because the spirits left yet in fnaf 1 they are still possesed
@benjaminnrgaard5266
@benjaminnrgaard5266 3 года назад
They are not really free, just as you see Golden Freddy fade away in FNAF 2 does not mean they have left. Golden Freddy just appears again. The spirits still all have unfiniched business. Cuz William will still possess the spring bonnie suit. And we see that the spirits still at haunted in FNAF 3 Cuz of the many hallucinations Michael is experiencing.
@MrDino606
@MrDino606 3 года назад
hi under_score how was your day?
@Under_Score
@Under_Score 3 года назад
twas epic
@willodell1984
@willodell1984 3 года назад
This is an interesting idea, however this theory suffers from a couple flaws. Number one is that sprites are always inconsistent in coloring and design, such as foxy not having pants despite every other iteration having pants and why would Fazbear Entertainment change that, then change it back after Foxy was taken apart? Heck even the posters in FNaF 3 are inconsistent, as in some of them Chica has yellow legs similar to Freddy and Bonnie, but in others Chica has orange chicken legs. Number 2 is that the design of the FNaF 1 building itself. While the FNaF 1 location is an overhaul of the original Freddy Fazbears, the original Freddy Fazbears had no security office, as is shown in both Foxy Go Go Go minigame and the Take Cake to the Children minigame. So there's no way the office in Follow Me existed in the state it is in during 1988, as the office was an addition made during the overhaul of first Freddy Fazbears.
@benjaminnrgaard5266
@benjaminnrgaard5266 3 года назад
1.Foxy did not have any legs and was out of order in FNAF 1 cuz William destroyed Foxy in 1988. FE did not have the budget to repair him fully. The only way Foxy can move is because of the spirit’s agony, Cuz in FF books agony can be used to power objects up like electricity. 2. If the light is different from poster to poster it could be something to do with the poster being old or Cuz the the angle of light pointing at it. But else yeah, if it really is a different color code, like really in the code, then it’s most likely a incossistensy. 3. What is your evidence that there is no office in the original FFP? Cuz for starters phone guy says in FNAF 2 that people in the former location (original FFP) has been stuffed inside a suit. And since the animatronics would be cut at the day, they need to do it at night. Whitch means that there is someone working at night, whitch therefore is a nightguard, kinda in the definition. So therefore the original FFP needs to have an office.
@willodell1984
@willodell1984 3 года назад
@@benjaminnrgaard5266 1. My point wasn't about his legs my point was about his pants, your argument about budget actually works against you because if budget were an issue why would they add pants. I made this point to illustrate that designs are always inconsistent across the minigames as Foxy has no lack of pants elsewhere. And the line of reasoning that Foxy is out of order in FNaF 1 is very weak as Foxy is clearly finished enough in design to function as a normal animatronic in FNaF 1, as Foxy function in an almost identical state in Foxy Go Go Go and we see him run around in FNaF 1, so why he would be out of order is either coding errors or just some problematic issue. Your point about agony again also makes no sense because clearly Foxys servos work so he can move, so why repair Foxy to a state where he can move then just, not give him a power source so he can move? 2. Go to 3:13 look at the far left poster and then look at the other poster with chica. They have different legs. 3. Foxy Go Go Go and Take Cake to the Children happened at the first FFP, and there is no nightguard office in either. Phone Guy never states people were stuffed into suits in FNaF 2. What are you on about? The one time Phone Guy mentions a suit that someone used it, not that someone was stuffed into it. Also I cannot tell quite what you mean by "cut at the day" but if you mean servos being locked up during the day that was only a feature post FNaF 2 as it was added after the bite of 87.
@benjaminnrgaard5266
@benjaminnrgaard5266 3 года назад
@@willodell1984 1. That’s fair 2. The colors are different yeah, there is something about that. 3. In fnaf 2 night 1 phone call: ”You see, there may be a minor glitch in the system, something about robots seeing you as an exoskeleton without his costume on, and wanting to stuff you in a suit, so hey, we've given you an empty Freddy Fazbear head, problem solved!” Phone guy could be talking about the original FFP. Plus, what are the evidence that there is not an office in the original FFP?
@willodell1984
@willodell1984 3 года назад
@@benjaminnrgaard5266 Ah I see what you mean with the phone calls. While I don't necessarily agree with that interpretation, it is certainly plausible. My evidence for the office not existing in the first FFP is that in both Foxy Go Go Go, and Take Cake to the Children, there is no security office, just walls, and both happened at the first FFP.