The LOST Season of Stargate Atlantis 

I miss the entire stargate franchise really much too

Even Stargate Destiny was masterpiece for me but they ended it too early

I'm in the middle of rewatching SG1 now for about the 15th time. Best tv franchise ever.

I really wish that more fans had been willing to give Stargate Universe a chance. It really started to feel like they figured out a proper blend of SG and BSG by the second season and began to feel like Stargate again.

I miss it!

Me too. Atlantis is my favorite Stargate, learning about this lost season made me want to rewatch it. Again lol

lol, i wish there was 10

​@@ferrenbergIn case you don't know, Pluto TV (free streaming service) has an entire channel dedicated to all Star Gate shows. Unfortunately, Atlantis is only on from midnight to 9 am here. I'm either getting ready for work or sleeping! 😂

Not a huge fan of seasons 9 and 10 of SG-1, always felt jarring. And now that I know it was originally slated to be a completely different show, Stargate Command, it makes sense. It feels so different because it is. I’ve always felt SG-1 ended with season 8, and as it turns out, it did.

Stargate was never the same after Rick Anderson left.

MGM was broke.

MGM got cold feet they where going through a lot of financial loss at the time.

@@TitanshieldGaming They bet the bank on SG-U, unfortunately that wasn't the correct play.

​@dffndjdjd This. It was made clear that they had more options than they allowed fans to assume but like so many, felt moving onto bigger and better was best. The whole Sarah Gellar and Buffy type deal or D+D Showrunners of Game of Thrones type deal is how it retrospectively looks now. Then after the failure, it was what it always came down to, no money or investors and too little too late.

cuz WWF was cheaper and ran better ratings. simple as.

absolutely agreed. just the propsect of what if has already brought me back into hype mode for stargate. i think i'll binge rewatch sg-1 again

There's more wine mums out there than us unfortunately

Enjoy all the reality slop that's dominating the current media landscape .... And it's not just shows like these, documentaries aren't even beimg re run...

@@DCG909 Honestly this society uses people and then discards them, and at the same time it Appeases the Wine Karens in name of false progress.

let me agree with the greatest quote from sg-1: "indeed" teal'c / like every episode

Farscape, SG-1, Atlantis, and BSG in the span of a few short years made up for a fitting conclusion of sci-fi TV's golden age. It was a back to back thrill ride for a while.

Since only Ford wasn't actualy seen dying and apparently escaped makes sense, otherise I agree with bringing back Kolya and Michael is overkill just for the fan service of "beloved" characters. Only a "he was a clone" or comes from an alternate timeline would work for Michael, but Kolya was seen being killed and only came back later because of an ancient self-defense feature trying to delay Shepard (like that better)

*Yeah Michael would have been a bit too much. Even though liking the actor especially in Star Trek Enterprise series I was ready to see that character off. Lol* 😂🤣

And Weir.

@@andrewmalinowski6673 Alternate timeline or time travel is also a possibility for putting into a plot. Not that these characters come into the 'real world' but are encountered while the team end up in the alternate reality. You could even have a 2-3 part story arc where they go to an alternate world and Kolya is the antagonist again but it turns out he's actually the good guy in this version. It would be worth having an episode that explores what happens if Shepherd's team don't wake up the wraith or didn't abandon Tyrus (Sora's father) and how that would affect their relationship with the Genii.

If you are in for it, there are 8 books of the SGA legacy series. They are well written. There is also a lot of character development. Can absolutely recommend

@@thirstyfordoctor609 *Curious I didn’t know this, thanks.*

It was just as real off camera. David and Joe were recently in the Jason's series See, and Joe was in a commercial with Jason.

Joe Flanigan (Shepherd) tried to get investors together to continue Atlantis in some form, and even got a level of buy-in from MGM, but ultimately the deal was scuppered by MGM's bankruptcy. Nowadays, alas, I think it's too late. Half the cast are off doing their own bigger things and half of them are retired or not working as actors anymore.

Do you want Amazon to bring it back and bring back Weir or Carter and make them an insufferable girl boss and turn Sheppard and the various males into beta cucks? Because they will do it.

If you have this in DVD you're missing out. The Bluray set is fantastic and one of my prized collections

@@ijmad Just imagine trying to get Jason back.

@@ijmad Generative AI could help complete the script and then make the video, some bits could be made by filming anyone and using AI to restyle and revoice bits.

Here's how I'd refine those ideas into something more coherent: The returning characters: - Ford survived but was stranded on the planet the hive was attempting to cull (space gate without a ship), the same planet would eventually turn out to be the hidden location of the ZPM factory allowing the team to reuinite with him. - Michael survived because the "Michael" we saw in "The Prodigal" was actually a clone. It would explain why he ended up being so careless and overly emotional. He was psychologically unstable because Michael's cloning process was imperfect due to a lack of resources. - As for Elizabeth, don't bring back an organic Elizabeth, have the Travelers or the Wraith (most likely the former) discover the replicators in deep space and accidentally wake them up and have that be Carl's replicator story. - Kolya, I'm tempted to also bring back as a clone but at this point it would be nigh impossible for Michael (or the renegade Asgard, the only other group I could think of) to clone him. Better not. His death wasn't all that anticlimactic. The story arc: - Have the future scenes in "Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow" be set during the events of the finale. - Have the ZPM mishap be what propels the team to look for the ZPM factory. - Have the city-ship from "The Tower" be captured and restored by the Renegade Asgard rather than Kolya (there is no way the Genii would have the means to fix it or even operate it). - Have the events of Hamster Ball, the Replacements and Michael's mid-season two-part takeover all be a one big storyline with the villains behind the former two being the Renegade Asgard, and have it end with the revelation that Michael is now working with them against Atlantis. - Todd getting captured by the Wraith should be the start of a season-long throughline in which Teyla uses her queen guise to slowly persuade the rest of the Wraith to go along with using Michael's gene therapy so that they no longer need to feed on humans. - After the replicators are accidentally woken up by the Travelers, they split into two camps, one that wants to just disappear and try to ascend and another that wants revenge on Atlantis first, the latter, led by Weir eventually stumble onto the Atlantis team and pass along the information about the Asuran superweapon while the latter join forces with Michael and the Renegade Asgard and help them restore the city-ship. - The Season finale is the Asgard's restored city ship and smaller replicator-controlled Auroras vs. Atlantis and a fleet of Wraith and Traveler warships. - In the end we get a peace treaty between Atlantis and the Pegasus coalition and the remaining Wraith Hives who agree to take the drug and lose their dependency on consumption of humans. Michael is killed off for real, the remaining Renegade Asgard agree to a truce as well and are given a ship with which to leave the Pegasus galaxy, the remaining replicators are persuaded by Weir to stand down. Peace in the Pegasus galaxy at long last. The end.

Yeah, most of these plot sketches feel thematically hollow. It’s just stuff happening. I get they’re just rough brainstorms, but Atlantis S5 also feels a little thematically bankrupt to me, like the show is running on fumes. (Except the finale. The finale slaps.)

@@TheJovian16 I would like that mishap to be a result of McKey attempting to produce a ZPM as opposed to finding the factory. I think it makes more sense for this accident to happen in production. I wouldn't bring any of those characters back, we saw them die. Make room for the new characters. A run-in with other wraith-enzyme takers I'd take.

You know they would ruin it, better to go out on a high note

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Thank you! Wasn't sure how I was going to pull this off, but I'm very proud of the edit.

@@GateWorldDotNet *You should be **#Darren**. Job well done 👍🏼 mate.* 😉 ❤️

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Thank you! Wasn't sure how I was going to pull this off, but I'm very proud of the edit. I've been pondering how to tackle this for a good long while now.

@@GateWorldDotNet *Again excellent work **#Darren**, thanks again mate.* 👍🏼 ❤️ 😉

Joe has posted a good bit about the different ways the SGU cliffhanger might have been resolved in a third season opener. I'd like to do a video on that at some point!

I disliked the decisions to write off both Carson and Weir. But I do think they were done well overall, dramatically. They wanted to have the option to keep bringing Weir back, but unfortunately the result was that they left her fate vague and the character never really got a proper conclusion. The one that really still bugs me is Kolya. His death is such an unnecessary choice that seems like an afterthought that was tacked onto the episode for behind-the-scenes reasons we aren't privy to.

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@@GateWorldDotNet*#Darren** I thought you said in your last email that you was too busy to make these posts anymore buddy.* 🎉

Yea, I didn't like returning Fort and Kolya and Micheal. Also, it has been a while, but I thought the other city was out of drones and worse of then Atlantis. There is no way Kolya and co would have the ability to fix it and bring it in a better state as Atlantis. (They could have found a third city perhaps. Though that seems unlikely as well. I would have preferred that the Vanir Asgards filled the end threat) But like you, I think there are a bunch of episodes I really would have liked to see.

@@MarijnvdSterre No, it wasn't that city, it was another like it, in other words there were at least 3 Atlantis's (besides the ones that Galaxies replicators made).

@@jonathanberry1111 Conclusion: I really need to watch the show again ^^

Agree 100%.

@@MarijnvdSterre Sure, that's a given but just clarifying that they only have 2 "Atlantis's" in the show (not counting the ones the Pegasus galaxy replicators made) but in this video they said this was "another Atlantis like the one in that episode". So not the same one. But yes rewatching is the best we have for now.

Thank you! Wasn't sure how I was going to pull this off, but I'm very proud of the edit.

@@GateWorldDotNet *You did another great job **#Darren** and I thank you for this production.* ❤ 😊

No, no it doesn't. If it happened today it would be all about pronouns Feminism and LGBTQ+ greatness. Just buy the DVDS & Blu-rays and revisit those good times, you can never go back but you can always rewatch.

@@loslobos786 *Please don’t be so bloody cold and negative FFS* 💁🏼‍♂️ 🤦🏼‍♂️ ☠️ 🌪🌪🌪

@@jamesfcarlton6890 it's not negative it's the truth, no one, NO ONE wants more Star Gate than Myself however we all know what it would be. Hollyweird has to lose a lot more money before it starts making good non agenda driven shows again, I give it five more years, hopefully.

Yeah, I mean CGI has gotten so much better since SG-1 that the tech wouldn’t have been hard to portray. It would be cool to have earth finally not be the underdog. Be on the offensive.

Absolutely we were robbed I was very disappointed when they took Atlantis off especially with such a wild ending

@@Sonic110a it took the story in a new different direction, however I did wonder if that was the original ending? or something to just give it somewhat of a happy ending. Bit fan fiction to me but don't mind it. What's wild is would Jason Mamoa still stayed for a few more seasons of SGA knowing he would blow up from GoT?

One of us! One of us!

@@GateWorldDotNet *hahahaha* 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@GateWorldDotNet *Huh **#GateWorldDotNet** **#Darren**, I like 👍🏼 it.*

⁠@@jamesfcarlton6890 *Think that’s funny huh **#JamesCarlton**⁉️* 🤷🏼‍♂️ 🤭 😆😂🤣🤣

Immense potential if they hadn't alienated the fans by having it kill SGA and had kept the tone more fitting with Stargate, you can be a bit more serious without making everyone an a-hole.

Agree with your first paragraph, I think that was emblematic of SGA, it felt utterly unable to move on narratively from around Season 3. It often introduced really interesting things but never developed them and continually circled back to plots that had been concluded.

Thanks so much! I appreciate the support.

He returned multiple times

Well...

Its said he met up with larrin and the travelers

@@jackphillips4305 No, that was never said in any episode

@@PathsUnwritten It said, its said that he ended up with the travellers

Don't worry there's a woke remake on the way full of LGBTQ characters!

@@callumbush1 I hope there will be no remakes/reboots/sequels in the next 5 years at least

@@nothingness863 I've seen rumors that they're considering making a reboot for modern audiences a long the lines of Star Trek.

@@callumbush1 Don't even joke about that. As for SGU, I found that abortion completely incomprehensible

I heard they were thinking of a sixth season except that Ben Bower and Claudia Black were getting too old

Generative AI, Sora, so many other versions and I'm sure some will be able to make stuff based on copyrighted content.