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The Low G Clarinet - The True Alto Clarinet 

Bret Newton - Composer
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I revisit the low G Clarinet in an all-new video and discuss why it's the true alto member of the clarinet family.

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6 сен 2024

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@Jared_De_Leon
@Jared_De_Leon 6 лет назад
FolkMusic123 makes a Boehm system G clarinet for 800 eur which is just under $1000 usd total with shipping. I've ordered from them and have been very pleased with how their instruments have been set up. It appears to be a copy of the Orsi
@BretNewtonComposer
@BretNewtonComposer 6 лет назад
I'd be interested in hearing more about that G Clarinet. At that price point, it should be affordable to someone interested.
@Jared_De_Leon
@Jared_De_Leon 6 лет назад
Also yes the A and G# are not supposed to be interconnected. Also you can play an F#/C# by fingering a G/D and adding the E/B lever. This is much more convenient that the fingering you are using. I have the exact same instrument and I was able to greatly improve it by reaming out the bore slightly. You can make a simple reamer with fine sandpaper and a wooden dowel. They tend to have bits of plastic stuck on the edges of the toneholes from drilling. If you really want it to play well you can also replace the pads with leather or synthetic as it sounds like you have some leaks. Btw I noticed your embouchure looks much better👍
@BretNewtonComposer
@BretNewtonComposer 6 лет назад
I've been thinking about the wooden dowel technique for widening the bore. I might experiment with that, as I have all the tools to do it. I figured that the two keys were meant to be separate, but I figured they'd be tuned where you could use them in conjunction with each other. Yes, I'm doing some embouchure work.
@wilhelmbeck8498
@wilhelmbeck8498 2 года назад
@@BretNewtonComposer If you widen the bore - you will have a lower pitch on all tones. A clean-up of the bore, using fine grit abrasives, would most likely a improve fast-made cheapo though. Undercutting tone-holes, using fx. a dremel-tool - to raise/lower specific notes, is also worth considering ( undercutting towards the mouthpiece-end on the first open tone-hole below the lowest finger = lowering the tone - / undercutting towards the bell = raising the tone
@chaderickson3212
@chaderickson3212 6 лет назад
Hi Brett, would you have any interest in making a video specifically detailing the differences between French and German clarinet fingering? As a player of French-system clarinets I think it would be nice to know a bit about German fingering so that way if I come across a German clarinet I’ll have some idea of how to play it. Thank you.
@zvonimirtosic6171
@zvonimirtosic6171 2 года назад
Brett is struggling with the German system. To improve on German system fingering, maybe you should go a step back, and get an older Albert system clarinet. If you know Albert system well - which is very easy and allows the greatest flexibility of tone among all the systems- then it's easier to play both Boehm AND German system. In either system, choose a clarinet with fewer keys; more keys add to the complexity.
@obiwan88
@obiwan88 4 года назад
Didn't know Mr Jürgen Klopp plays a clarinet, and speaks with an American accent too!
@edwincancelii2917
@edwincancelii2917 5 лет назад
There’s also an F basset horn and a low C A basset clarinet.
@achimeberle7028
@achimeberle7028 11 месяцев назад
G clarinets with a French key system are now also available, e.g. from Jochen Seggelke Bamberg Germany. The Belgian composer Henri Joseph de Croes worked at the court in Regensburg in the 18th century and wrote a number of works for the clarinet d'amore: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lGlLKo7i4sI.html There is also a modern clarinet d'amore with a basset extension in G. It is available with a French or German key system or even a mixture of both if desired: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fyCo4ERcJHw.html
@bacicinvatteneaca
@bacicinvatteneaca 2 года назад
RU-vid NEEDS to introduce a "report erroneous translation" option, half the time it's impossible to know what one is clicking on. I was hoping this was a bass clarinet in G, and instead it's a mezzo-soprano in G like Turkish ones.
@simplebutcomplicated7312
@simplebutcomplicated7312 5 лет назад
that instrument is poorly tuned like most sol clarinets from china. I've been using amati 640s for 5 years without a problem. those are made in czech republic and tuned very well. for the turkish music micro notes (koma) is very important as it makes the pieces very emotional. many professionals use amati clarinets such as husnu senlendirici, serkan cagri, ismail lumanovski. the german system is hard to play, but if you get a good clarinet it's a lot easier because the design has been slightly revised over the years to make it as easy as possible to play. I do not recommend anyone to buy sol clarinet form china. Buy them either from czech republic or there's other manufacturers in Turkey focusing on making G clarinet only. they're very rarely used thence hard to find good ones.
@zaydaboshala862
@zaydaboshala862 4 года назад
I have a g clarinet , it's pretty good , it's turkish , so the instrument isn't a problem , but the problem is that there isn't any material that could help me learn this instrument , and since you own one , could you help me find some kind of a book or something to learn from
@semirklica
@semirklica 2 года назад
Hi there nice video, I have this kind of Clarinett i have a problem with the other keys on the other side of the chamber They wont play, Have I make some mistake or is it just the clarinett have you Any Idea why they not playing let me know please ❤️
@xxwood_windxx-bb4413
@xxwood_windxx-bb4413 6 лет назад
Thank you so much for making this video again I have just one question....how would you play a b natural to c natural on the different fingerings
@ahmetzenginoglu
@ahmetzenginoglu 4 года назад
Some of these keys are shortcuts to make a quick escape or easier as melody would dictate a different finger positions. This is perhaps a chinese rubbish I have one of them too. Amati or Hüsnü Şenlendirici G clarinet are real ones. You can contact Gökhan Demirdöğmez for a better explanation of keys and their roles, I just learner and his student. For real G clarinet sounds, you can search to listen on youtube, Hüsnü Şenlendirici, Gökhan Demirdöğmez, Serkan Çağrı. These are currently popular G clarinet players. Older one who is father :-) is Mustafa Kandıralı. G cLarinet has a huge sound capacity as far as I am learning, such a crazy instrument. Cheers Ahmet
@Denise-tg2ok
@Denise-tg2ok 6 лет назад
Hello again Mr. Newton, I have a similar question to the Alto Flute one on the D-Flat Piccolo video. Do you happen to know any Concert Band or Orchestral pieces that have the E-Flat Clarinet in the score, and do you also happen to know any pieces that feature the Solo E-Flat Clarinet or Chamber group with that size of Clarinet, where this Clarinet plays the main melody regularly? Thank you so much for your assistance in this matter.
@BretNewtonComposer
@BretNewtonComposer 6 лет назад
For Eb Clarinet, look at Mahler Symphonies, Daphnis, Bolero, lots of Shostakovich.
@Denise-tg2ok
@Denise-tg2ok 6 лет назад
I already have two resources which are the Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique, and Ravel Bolero. which I am researching now.
@Denise-tg2ok
@Denise-tg2ok 6 лет назад
Wow that was fast. Thank you so much for your suggestions.
@fartwrangler
@fartwrangler 4 года назад
The G clarinet is an interesting horn, but it't not the "true alto". . In modern array of Bb and Eb instruments, the Eb alto is the true alto. Where the system breaks down is with the Bb bass clarinet, which is really the true _tenor_ of the family. The Eb "contralto" (also called the Eb "contrabass") is the true _bass_ of the family, and the Bb contrabass is the true contrabass. . The G horn stands outside that pitch family, along with the D sopranino, the A soprano, and the Basset horn in F. . G clarinets were quite popular in Turkish and Balkan folk music, and are still used in ensembles dedicated to performing in those genres. (They're also fond of C-sopranos, and favor the Albert fingering system.) . Would be interested to know the source of your information that Mozart originally scored his clarinet concerto for this instrument. As far as I know, no autograph copies of K622 exist.
@djcbeatle
@djcbeatle 3 года назад
Correction: the G clarinet you’re playing is in “Albert” system fingering, not “German” system fingering.
@BretNewtonComposer
@BretNewtonComposer 3 года назад
Albert system is a subset of the German-style clarinet fingering system. German-style incorporates Albert, Oehler, and the more modern German systems.
@leotard2536
@leotard2536 5 лет назад
I see a bunch of brandless G Clarinets with a Böhm System on Ebay. Do you think they're worth $250, or should I hold out and go for a more expensive model?
@BretNewtonComposer
@BretNewtonComposer 5 лет назад
I can't comment on those yet. I have a friend who is supposed to be getting one and I'm waiting to hear back from him.
@leotard2536
@leotard2536 5 лет назад
@@BretNewtonComposer Any news?
@BretNewtonComposer
@BretNewtonComposer 5 лет назад
None that I know of. He decided to build an Octo-Contrabass instead.
@alejandrocarlos5702
@alejandrocarlos5702 4 года назад
Nice video but if you are going to move that much and show a long instrument it would be nicer if you are a little farther back.
@salihpolat7732
@salihpolat7732 2 года назад
Nice video but you must learn G clarinet .. Wrong fingers , wrong mouth , wrong etc. Generally you play # or b especially E
@alexanderbrede5818
@alexanderbrede5818 3 года назад
Hi. Sorry - the part about micro-tones is just wrong. You probably are not fully familiar with the 'German' (better call it 'Oehler') fingering system. I played this for about 20 years and changed in the last 10 years to 'Boehm' system. Your attempt to play a 'B' in altissimo register is simply wrong fingering and thus squeeks, also the attempt to play the 'C' will end up in a C#, using the 'boehm' fingering. In addition, you use a 'boehm' mouthpiece on a 'oehler' bore. This simply will cause bad sound and your very open mouthpiece will not really 'fit' to the more narrow 'oehler' instrument in G. Knowing about both systems, their advantages and disadvantages, I honestly disagree with lost of "German" bashing. At 12:00 you use again a wrong fingering that simply does not exist on that system. Regarding the extra G# lever for the left index finger, this is a regular key you'll find nowadays on professional boehm system clarinets, too. There is simply too much to comment about ... grr, that is - sorry - wrong. Did you try this instrument with a mouthpiece of the correct (inner) bore? With the correct reeds? The mouthpieces of the 'German' system have a different setup, that the 'Boehm' ones (G: convex table vs. B: plain table surface), the reeds (G: smaller, different setup of the heart, core, etc. vs. B: wider, thinner, different cut). The tone is made in the mouthpiece and yes, there is a different breathing style, too between the systems.
@vadimzitsermusicianvlogcha3870
A lot of players play German system clarinets with boehm Vandoren 7jb. And they sound amazing.
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