Have read the Book Rebel Sultans. Amazed at the in depth research done by young Scholar Manu S Pillai. God give him more strentgh, more power. You have not only written a book, you have sown an idea
This talk given by Manu was so refreshingly engrossing. Manu brought history alive with his excellent talk, studded with factual details , straddling centuries of Indian history, and intelligently condensed in one easy flow . Do we have professors of his calibre in any of our universities today ? Decades back, in LSR , the history hour was so dull, that we skipped it, rather than be forced to concentrate on the insipid drone of the history lecturers. Another point which deserves to be commended, is when Manu drew our attention to the current Government's misplaced sense of cultural loyalty rooted in religious bigotry. Senselessly they have expended crores of rupees, to mulishly erect temples in supposedly historic spots, so as to avenge the destruction done to our temples by past invaders . What a way of making peace with our collective consciences! If we care so deeply about the preservation of our cultural heritage, what have you got to say about the general state of decay of so many priceless heritage monuments all across India, whose architectural grandeur and their sheer scale of magnificence is beyond compare . Today they are crumbling relics of the past. The awe inspiring temples of the South ,are in such a sorry state of neglect, with ugly electirc wires looped spaghetti- -style, in the most irreverent manner around the stunning idols ......what is the archaelogical department of India doing to preserve our much celebrated heritage? Thank you Manu for this brilliant talk.
Poor interviewer ! All she can do is to nod her head mist times and not even gathering enough courage to ask a meaningful question to this genius ! Salute to Manu, he is such an intellect.
Beautifying done Manu.. When you said.. Our national narrative is skewed towards activities of north.. Even now just go through the CBSE textbooks by NCERT.. High time this anomaly is corrected but with BJP and their Hindi.. Nothing is going to change..
We had south Indian history in our books and were taught it but then our school gave lots of importance to the humanities also rather than science and maths which most schools tend to.
So much praise for Matriarchal society. Manu, your narrative about the travancore is so different about keralam and patriarchal society which has been changed.
While I agree that things were not black and white and there were silver linings here and there, it is what the majority of incidents and that the overall drive was religious for the invaders is something we need to acknowledge. Once the fact that these terrible atrocities were committed is acknowledged only we decide how to go ahead in a better way. The problem is the reluctance to acknowledge these.
Factually he would be correct! But the way he finds legitimacy and casts his understanding of syncretic culture and questions the uniformity of cow protection in the 'story' of Thanjavur king and on contrary disregards to give negative potrayal of the Brahmin created legend of 'story' of girl of sultan playing with idol tells a lot about his version of 'syncretic culturism', about his version of history being not so 'black and white'!
Royal Grants. Can you please provide examples of the reverse grants to Hindus for purely Brahminical, or Hindu or Jain, or Sikh purposes. They came with bowls in their hands. That is the truth.
Prior to the British rule in India. India's share of Global GDP was 25% you can verify this by googling and not reading from whatsapp university. So, my point is India was one of the world leaders in trade of spice, muslin, craft etc. So, Trade does not happen with one side obviously they would have been given grants by these foreign nations to trade with them. There is a reason why you find hindu baniyas across the globe they are the descendants of these people.
15.37 min will Muslims be okay to have Islamic Saraswathi ? Let them embrace this idea of a Goddess of knowledge like Jains have done . 37 min Hindus going to Sabarimala visit Muslim shrine, which Muslims go to which non Islamic deities.45.50 min oldest Ramayana in Cambodia, is it because all older Ramayana got burned when Nalanda got burned
Most Hindus don't want to ask these questions because the truth makes them feel uncomfortable. They would rather believe these blissful fake narratives.
Disagree completely with his thoughts on Sabarimala deity - Suggest that he listen to Sinu Joseph's talks to know the real history and reasons behind why entry of mentruating women is restricted only in the Sabarimala temple and not any other ayyappa temples in the country.
Manu, when all the donations of Madurai temple are government controlled that too State government, lets understand who gets the money and where does the money go? Do not question for clapping of hands and mis-guide. The money from the Hundi in Madurai Meenakshi temple goes to the state Gov. Tell the state Gov to spend the same money on the temple without dilution. Then you will surely ask them to build a Ram Temple where it existed.
why our state govt. of tamil nadu built ram temple of your state??? why the UP wallas cant even afford to build their own temple? and yeah last year it was bjp allied govt... obviously the money goes to BJP .... then probably you should check with them first
@@ramalingamsambandam7195That's what proselytisers propagate. The seat of Consecrated Deity of Divinity built by Hindu Kingdom. These Devastans are collective wealth of Hindus. It just a matter of time for control of Hindu temples will be in the hand of Hindu trusts.
Father Land? By Savarkar? Wrong Wrong Wrong. He said Pitr Bhumi, translating to Ancestral land. So please Manu, Can you please get the right meanings across.
So Minute 44:47 does say it all, book publishing rights, movie rights, and money making motives. Manu, I get it now, Research, Revise History with stories, Revenue. - R R R - Good going. All the best.
What is wrong with showing history on the big screen? Making stupid videos on facebook instagram is fine abd making money out of that is fine but earning money by providing something valueabe is bad?
Theme of the Talk - History is not Black and White. Can you use other phrases too. You can do better than introducing Arthur Cotton's dream of colonizing the minds of poor with gratitude and him providing canal systems. But what has Arthur Cotton done to History? Why is he being quoted here, in a debate on British writing History?
Qutub shah spent 7 years in vijaynagar lover of mahabhata, patron on telgu literature, wife being a telgu woman Ain-ul-Gilani fighting for Hindu king. Clearly people then had more sense to live for their benifit and could not careless fight and rant for religious bigotry.
This guy interned/worked with Sashi Tharoor - what do u expect. His thinking is biased and Congress leaning ... Preparing ground for quick easy money. Yes, he is brilliant and fast talking
It is frustrating to see how educated people are making amends to wrongs done. Every event in the past, should be in their universe, not in our universe. Where is the basic Human tenets held universal across time and place. DO NOT KILL. NO FORCED CONVERSIONS, these are religious conversions. So please talk about that, rather than justifying what they did during their time is correct and no judgement should be passed...
If an adult wants to convert himself into something else.. What is your problem.. Why dont you enact anti conversion rule then.. You can't because.. It is a given freedom in your constitution.. Reform your religion first....then start wailing..
he never said that, he agreed that they were brutal just like all kings were. only difference is they destroyed temples bcuz they were not hindus whereas the hindu kings just took the main idol from the rival's temple and established it in their main temple
The Vijayanagar emperor was able to absorb and mixed up the imported culture of Persia. Letters, Caps, etc. But did the invaders absorb the local culture? NO a big No.
Ibrahim Adil shah narrative wore a rudraksk, painted nails red son of saraswati; bijapur vidyapur. Islamic saraswati how much more do you want. The constitution just ask you not to be a bigot is even you cannot do this.
@@rohantrivedi9165 SO Everywhere You want to hold the constitution as the sacred Book? I will not accept this yardstick. Since religion and for that matter - Hindus, Christians and Muslims have so many personal Laws which they abide by. Also, just as there was no constitution to the invaders, how did you train the folks from the countryside to abide by the constitution? were they trained formally to abide by the constitution? , never. Were they educated formally as required by the constitution?, never. Were they given their rights as per the constitution?, never. You must watch the opening scene in Manjhi, when the announcement on untouchability was made by the govt. To get past a whole practice and unjust affair, society takes time. All that is being asked here is to go past the Hindu-Muslim narrative and live like Un-Converted Bharatiyas, Like original persian culture from where so rich artistic skills came from. Because of few bigots who rampaged the country, the angst remains.
@@venkatavedula2392 I don’t get the meaning of “old Bharatya”, caz it was collection of kingdoms and culture so which culture you were mentioning I don’t know. Then the Hindu as national religion was formed in 19th century for your reference, before that high status people which was only 17% was considered under hindutva, and again the name itself came from Persians.
Good, You agree, the Srirangam Temple was invaded, the Brahmins did overcome that and Did move on. After the Babri Masjid demolition, did the muslims move on? Can they move on? Will they move on? Where is the evidence? Manu Please do a wholistic and well researched topic on the other side too, if you have already done it, please share it in talks as well. Do not play to galleries...
@Venkata the key point that you are missing is was there any law or constitution at that time that people had to abide. As a hindu even I cannot move past this bigotry let alone the muslims just to get votes out of gullible hindu majority of this country.We as of 1950 have adopted the constitution where we as a nation pledged not to let people freely practise, profess and propagate any religion. PM of a secular country doing this is what is shocking don't get me wrong I would have protested even if a Gurudwara, Church or Mosque had such patronage from PM of a secular nation.
What Babur did was definitely wrong what those people did demolishing the mosque is also equally wrong if not more given they had a constitution to follow.
The structure... ( Not a Mosque ) was disputed but it was under ASI and comes under heritage... What the bloody hell you want to build something else on top of it..this is one of the biggest terrorist activity committed by stupid fools
venkata vedula....your comment shows what you are..... Babri masjid is just an area's dispute but not whole india's dispute.... because at end of the muslims they pray at the mosques which is nearby to them..... FYI i bet not every indian muslims have visited Babri Masjid..... also it was an issue created by So called self proclaimed hindutuva parties... they worry about temples and kings but not about the people who are still dying in Hunger.... and yeah the brahmins never moved on..... The brahmins (so called aryans and descendants of jews they are still ruling us) and not all brahmins like them....
Any statue hurts the taxpayers be it sardar patel, nehru, you, me(if we are foolish enough to make one for ourselves like mayawati). There is a reason Ozymandias is taught to students.
Texts ? Vedic Chants were never written. Songs, ballards they were written. The vedic chants were taught from generation to generation by word of mouth and hearing. Manu please do not play around with basic tenets.
The Vedas (/ˈveɪdəz, ˈviː-/;[4] Sanskrit: वेदः vedaḥ, "knowledge") are a large body of religious texts originating in ancient India. Composed in Vedic Sanskrit, the texts constitute the oldest layer of Sanskrit literature and the oldest scriptures of Hinduism. This is how wikipedia defines it. Initially agreed they were not written but after 500BCE they were written down.
Sivaji Killing vs. Muslim's Taxation policy on the basis of religion, very conveniently ignored fact. Come on Manu, it is Religion that guided the principles.
For your information Akbar removed the Jaziya tax for hindus to visit chaar dham at the same time aurangzeb being a bigit reinstated it. History is full of bigots and good men alike don't use one person to paint picture for entire community.
So Ayyapa devotees worship Vavar. These Hindu God-loving and Sin-fearing fellows who embrace the worship of 'another religion' person. And you seem to be smirking at it and comparing it to Babur. Manu, please understand that Muslims were surely tyrannical. Read that in Full. They taxed Hindus, they converted Hindus. They smirked at the Hindus and they do it now as well. Call it out. Do not brush it off under the carpet, by saying oh a Hindu ruler was captivated by a persian woman and therefore there was no Hindu Muslim divisions.
Please understand you have to clean up your mind of bigotry. Are you saying muslims are not god-loving for their god and sin fearing they pray 5 times a day bruh please don't forget it is a hindu under which mob lynching took place, it was the hindus killing off 2000 sikh families in delhi. Religion has nothing to do with violence if someone does that its his mis interpretation and not the religion preaching that.
Mr Venkat, I would say a Shivasena under B Thackeray behaved more or less like invaders to their own countrymates from South.. When they drove out even ordinary coconut water selling poor guy at nariman point.. Muslims in kerala contributes hansomely to the development of Kerala state and may be in your place You get what you sow..
