THE MAGNUS ARCHIVES  

The idea that an instruction manual is a Leitner is hilariously fascinating to me.

Jon: I need to eat Everyone else: You're tearing this family apart!

"ah, john is a monster, lets isolate him and give him no mental support oh no, john is becoming more monstreous and apathetic, clearly this justifies our need to stay away" like, damn. it would almost feel out of character if their boss wasnt literally the avatar of the lonely

It's so unsettling to hear Jon say, that he does not care about follow up and what happened to the people in the statements anymore. And eye statements taste stale. The eye does not want them, because it already got that fear.

“Daisy’s been managing just fine” Daisy had her connection to The Hunt literally severed in the Buried. It’s not a matter of resisting The Hunt for her it’s a matter of not doing anything that will get her reconnected to it. Jon is VERY deep into his connection with The Eye, he can resist it no more than Daisy could’ve before the coffin incident. Their situations right now are not the same.

Jon’s voice changing so drastically when he starts the statement still gets me like 👀👀👀👀

Those first few moments of Elias getting decked is music to my ears.

"I'm gonna get something to eat" Statement begins skfjskfh Jon's just being casually creepy

I love how this starts with Basira beating up Elias

Im honestly surprised that Jon hasnt broken down crying yet because i sure would have if all my friends suddenly treated me like a freak after preventing two apocalypses and spending half a year in a coma (not to mention the survivors guilt and identity crisis)

Elias: hello detective [Basira immediately assaults him]

....getting picky with the food are we now?

2:32 "I've always thought that a man's eating habbits were his own private business" looking at the comments every time Elias appears... I get why one of the reasons to remove him from the main narrative was "oh no this smug evil man is too sexy" *Jon, eat a snickers*

The way the group deals with jons eye thing always annoyed me. His options are either he gives people nightmares or DIES.

Is Elias deserving of a mug that says something along the lines of "World's #1 Evil Smug Boss"? - Yes. Is he still one of my favourite characters? - Absolutely

Basira just telling Jon to stop, but also wanting to use Jon just sounds like it will end badly. Telling him to stop is like telling someone to never eat again while food is right in front of them. Eventually the rational mind wont have the energy to stay in control and it gets messy. Not only that, but treating Jon like he isnt human (lol I know he isn't anymore but still.) will just make it easier for him to stop caring. Heck, do that to a human and you get the same result.

sadder and sadder for jon... i feel like the Lonely is helping along his corruption just as much as the Eye is- separating him further and further from any real support or help or kindness. He's getting double whammied real good.

Daisy and Jon's situation are so different. Daisy was touched by the Hunt, she didn't need to feed on it. Jon is an avatar, I imagine his well-being literally depends on him feeding

what if john had to actually eat the statements? like straight up in the mouth, i think that would be funny as hell

Oh look. Theyre isolating Jon. Calling him a monster. Making him feel like one, more like an Avatar and less like a human. Making him more apathetic. Do you want an apocalypse? BECAUSE THATS HOW YOU GET THE APOCALYPSE

Okay, Basira,s starting to get on my nerves. I didn't really get it when people were saying that under previous episodes, perhaps because she seemed more calm and levelheaded to me (as opposed to Melanie, who's violent outbursts were pretty succesful in making me recoil every time she appeared) but I'm starting now. The way she expects Jon to "just stop, it's not that hard!", like, Basira, darling, baby, sweetheart, would you tell the same to an alcoholic? A drug addict? No, ffs, these kind of things are not something you "just stop doing", they take time, therapy and support that you're unwilling to provide. I NEVER expected myself to like Daisy The ACAB Poster Child, but she's growing on me and she seems the last person who's actually not being shitty to Jon. I think at this point she might actually be his best chance at starting some kind of recovery - like, let them just talk it out, one recovering Avatar to another, she'll understand Though on the other hand, I'm starting to get suspicious about whether Daisy's recovery is really going as well as everyone believes it is. Everyone's telling Jon to be more like her, because if she could do it, he can too, and I'm just sitting here, thinking about how much of a punch in the gut it would be if it turned out that this perfect paragon of mental strenght for Jon to aspire to is not, in fact, so perfect. (I know the plot's moved on a while ago, but I just like writing my ramblings, leave me alone)

Basira, about what is very much becoming not just an addiction but actually a necessary food source: just stop getting statements from people Basira, not even a _minute_ later when Jon says he gets hungry using his powers: well find a statement then and get eating, creep Basira what the fuck Let's say avatar powers worked like drug addictions, yeah? Because they kind of do. Daisy is "managing" bc her link to the hunt was literally torn out of her, and then severed completely in the buried. Jon is being shoved left and right into using the powers that ultimately make him crave statements even more. Daisy is trying not to fall back into an addiction, while Jon is literally being told to just stop it, while also being told to just get more when he craves it. What the fuck. Comparing someone who's been sober and trying not to start drinking again to someone that's currently addicted to heroin is not at all a fair comparison, especially not when you hand them the needle all the damn time.

Basira is EXACTLY the kind of person you wouldn't want in your life if you were dealing with mental health issues Jon: "During moments of low willpower when I'm very hungry I sometimes make people tell me their stories" Basira: "Well just D O N ' T. Also do this thing for me that makes you hungry" Honestly I want Jon to feed on Basira next, maybe then she'll stop intentionally using and treating him like a monster then acting surprised when he behaves like one

Hearing Elias in pain makes me smile

I love how both the meta reason and in story reason for Elias calling Busira detective is just that it sounds cool

“I’m going to get something to eat.” Oof

She knocked that smug look off his face but luckily he was wearing a second smaller smug look underneath

Basira! Why didnt I think of that! Im no longer depressed or anxious since I decided to just... stop...

heheheh what if john eats the physical copies of the statements

Turning into a monster? All hail the watcher!

The fact that Basira's acting like she's on a high horse when she's actually making things worse is really pissing me off.

Jon: help I'm addicted to hearing the stories of other people's trauma Basira: what if you just ✨stopped✨ It's reasonable for them to be mad at him, but geez. This isn't helpful.

THEY THEM PRONOUNS IN A STATEMENT???? HELLO???

Jon isn’t the only one addicted to the statements… he’s got me hooked too 😔

you can't see me behind the screen i'm half human and half machine

What got me (along with everything else, obv), was that after I had to take a 10 minute break after John’s talk with Basira, I was immediately thrust back in to Jonny’s UTTERLY HEARTBREAKING way of saying “The Archivist”. No one’s talked about it, so either it’s subtle or unintentional, but “Archivist” just sounds so tiredly annoyed, almost a sob. Jesus RQ are damn good at this, huh? Love you all

So you mean to tell me I've been watching Jon making meok-bang statements this whole time?

"my mind is already wandering to the next statement" binging this podcast as a first time listener, this line hits too close for comfort :' chills man

Permission to hug the sad Archivist. )":

martin you better ditch the lonely and come help jon or im scared something really, really bad will happen

I had to listen to the beginning twice in a row. Listening to Elias get smacked is SO satisfying

Basira freaked out by the idea that Elias calling her "Detective" might have implied meanings (maybe she's not as human as she thought) is the real shit. She had to watch every single one of her work mates turn into some level of an Entity's avatar. I'd be freaked out, too, and quite honestly, feeling very skeptical about my own humanity. If EVERYONE is turning into an Entity-linked monster, what makes ME so special I'm not turning into one without noticing either?

I am both incredibly attracted to Elias AND genuinely happy to hear him get the crap beat out of him

Jon asking about Martin 🥺🥺

First he needed a week to recover from the statements, now he always needs more. Maybe it's because there is nothing new under the sun anymore? He said that when he was young, 2 books from the same author were too much alike and he felt bored. Maybe that's it ?

By now I want to slap Basira more than Elias but that's maybe because this has just been done

Jon and his need for more statements is exactly me with these episodes

“Honestly? I just like the way it soundss!” Lmao 😂

You know Melanie did say Basira wasn't good with people on an emotional level. Now I see what she means. 7:20 Yeah. What a fine job you did too.

how the hell did this podcast make me like DAISY more than basira basira was my favourite character

God I didn't realize how much I had missed Elias's sass

Elias being beaten down is indeed music to my ears.

Was listening to this when I learned that my grandmother had a hallucinations about webs and spiders and looked at her like 😃👁👁 would you like to record a STATEMENT granny

I'll admit that the first bit with Elias was hilarious 😂 On a serious note, I worry for Jon now I hope there's some way for him to actually control it. I mean with all the statements Gertrude was in she didn't sound like she was about to lose it, so maybe there is some kind of way. Hopefully.

I want to scream with the tension of Jon's situation. MY ANXIETY CANNOT TAKE THIS.

welp. I think I asked for a Watcher statement in a comment and... I got what I wanted and it was terrifying!

I had the hugest smiles on my face from hearing Elias get the crap beat out of him... And he's one of my favourite characters!

what happened to the reasonable basira who got out of the unknowing through pure logic, I don't want this Basira, I don't like her :(

I never knew I wanted hear Elias being scared but it's nice to hear. Poor Jon, he wants to stop but it's hard. :(

2 bots? This early? One of them even underwent comment mitosis! Anyway. Onto cryptic episode conjecture. Basira whooping Elias' butt is a mood. I believe Basira's title... "Detective" is similar to Jon's "Archivist" title. Patronage to multiple fears is established already. Daisy is police so she fits the criteria for "Hunter" and now that she is part of the Eye... "Detective" is a fitting title. Now... About surveillance... Eye is about "being watched". To integrate yourself into a surveillance network so you can be *always watching* (Mr Wazowski) fits the Eye's MO. Also... The whole line about "wires wrapping over each other" gives me Web vibes.

The phrase, "We don't know what to do with his face," made me laugh with joy and terror

Oh i had MISSED ben meredith. It's such a delight to hear him again. I know it's the whole point of him being away and peter isolating the others but i miss the dynamic he created within all the characters in s3. In a way, he really was the beating heart holding everyone together, even if it was against him. And im growing unfond of basira, which is.... surprising. Not liking that police brutality vibes from her. Maybe the hunt has a new poster girl?

Am I the only one absolutely effing done with Basira at this point?

Elias reminds me of Lucifer with the "Detective" thing lmao

"surprised you didn't foresee it" oh but he did judging by his quiet "here we go" right at the beginning and the fact that he denied a couple of Basira's attempts to visit him to give her time to cool down a bit and even had to ask for "no more violence", oh the rat man turns out to be so easily intimidated

With the way everyone is treating Jon, I hope he gets his own little villain arc, at least for a little bit

I just finished Ep 170 and it's fun to rewatch the updates on RU-vid. Eyes. Eyes everywhere. Love it.

Oof that image of a cracked eye behind sunglasses is very cool well done😊

WHAT IF THE MANUAL IS A LEITNER

Man I've been binge watching the series and- I know people have voiced it afew times now but honestly. Barsara(?) Really do be getting on my nerves with the way she treats Jon. Especially (again others have said this already) how shes find and dandy with forgiving Daisy for her stuff and just "it's fine, doesnt matter". When she was literally abusing and killing people. Like seems abit weird but aite girl.

really glad i listened to this one _after_ i got home from my security job you ever hyperfocus on work so hard you _become_ the system?

"Daisy's managing" um you call her dead weight. So....

Foaming at the mouth with how Barisa's been acting recently

Of course Daisy is managing she never was an avatar. Yes she was influeced by the hunt but she did not encarnated nor did she stop being human, she is more alike Elias than John. John is another level of consumed by the fears, he is like Agnes or that Guy who predicted Gertrude death. Both Agnes and End Guy can't control if they see the dead or if they burn you by touching you, plus need feeding of the supernatural kind. John can't control if he sees something in other people's brains and need to feed on others trauma. So please archive gang, treat him as such and give him a hug. Honestly Basira is a complete badass, but if she keeps treating John like that I don't think she is gonna last much longer. Well at least the eye won't be on her side. She survived the undoing by sheer force of will, so she will probably won't go down easly.

"DaIsY HaS bEinG reSisTinG" DAISY IS NOT AN AVATAR, DAISY IS NOT GONNA DIE IF SHE DOESN'T CHASE PEOPLE. Ughh, I swear this people are su damn cought up in their own "morality" that can't see more than a few inches away of it. And of course Jon doesn't say a thing, the guy thinks that he should be dead.

Basira putting Jon through the wringer about his connection to the eye and the use of his powers is really frustrating but I understand shes trying her best considering she's basically become the unofficial manager, considering Jon is pretty out of it, Melanie and Daisy are still dealing with their connections with other avatars being severed and both Martin and both of their actual bosses being impossible to actually get a hold of. She's trying to manage so much but definitely going the wrong way about it, I feel sorry for both her and Jon in this situation

I'm legit starting to have to take a few breaths to calm myself down at this insanity. It's so infuriating but i understand why it has to be like that so it's not all bad. My God I just want everyone to lay off of jon and to maybe support him for once.

Basira is,,, really hateful huh

1:47 someone (I think Elias) says "here we go" at the very start of the recording. So I'm guessing she had this little confrontation in mind, vividly, prior to actually visiting him. I find that almost hilarious

This is a deeply satisfying episode. Hearing Basira take out our anger and frustration with Elias' gaming and scheming scratches that brain itch Elias caused way back.

maybe daisy only survived getting cut off from her fear because you can't die in the coffin. addicts frequently die if theyre cut off all at once, and i imagine jon could get hurt if he "just stopped" under normal circumstances. what youre supposed to do is gradually decrease, and yes, its hard

If there was ever a character I wish I could poltergeist punch, it would be Basira.

oh god the food metaphors in the end....this is gonna blow up sooner or later

Elias is such an amazing character! And I'm on my second listen now, and wow - Elias is an ABSOLUTELY BLOODY AMAZING CHARACTER *sobs*

Coming back to this episode to listen to my favourite character get clocked

Ok im really late to the comments here, but cant help but add this one since no seems to have observed it: Jon ended his conversation with Basira with a carefully thought-out neutral question: "Can I ask what it said?" Because even with his powers Basira could answer 'No' truthfully and leave it at that. Just another sign of how Jon is genuinely trying to be better while no one seems to notice...

When Jon said he was going to "get something to eat" and started recording a statement I thought of the idea that Jon records the statement then just eats it after recording and I find that hilarious.

As we don't have a follow-up I choose to consider the man turned out fine and was never bothered again by the Eye

I know this was supposed to be serious, but I imagined Sampson to look like Paul Blart. And the image of Paul Blart staring at CCTV cameras FNAF style is too funny to make me feel scared.

“The web usually wins”... my theory, the Web does!! Shifting between dimensions, unleashes all the horrors to our world or worse, banished them to a dimension far far away.

Basera is becoming the hunts new avatar, and still bagging on Jon smh

POV: you are Jon listening to people praise Daisies strength and endurance from this magical entity after you sacrificed a rib and blood for said person to even be in the same room as the rest of them and NOT be a mindless killing machine or dead. it’s not great to be Jon right now

If jon went full monster on everyone it would be well deserved like jesus...its not even about having to be besties with him but it kills me how strategically stupid Ms. Oh-so-cold-and-logical Hussain is being, like you think this guy is going to turn on you any second and start eating your brains and you think the best course of action is to antagonize and isolate him any chance you get? Everyone there knows what the stakes are and that they're trapped but they're all too much up their own asses to pull themselves together, like this will NOT end well

Ah, Elias. Everyone's (?) favourite piece of questionably human garbage. I must admit I kinda missed him.

I think that people forget that Basira reasoned her way of The Unknowing - she’s exacly the type of person who would forget about empathy towards addicted person and say „just stop”

GET HIM BASIRA

It was very weird to hear a statement caused by the Ceaseless Watcher itself. It was equally disquieting to hear Jon talk about the statements like “I’m hungry…” followed immediately by a statement reading, and saying that this statement was stale and that he already needs more. Well written stuff, really. Wow.

what I still don't understand from the beginning till now is why is everyone else always so pissed off at jon for everything he's literally in as much shit as they are if not more

i want to give jon a hug so bad

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