THE MAGNUS ARCHIVES #80 - The LIbrarian 

We've all been there.

I mean... we've all been there... right?

@@RustyQuill I certainly have

@@RustyQuill It was the other way around for me.

@@RustyQuill I've been on both ends

Same i was so confused. Elias' is slightly... Higher? He sounds less strained than Jon.

And ironically Jurgen Leitner is voiced by Jon's irl dad and Gertrude by his mom

Same lol

@@conandenz8413 Tell what

@@conandenz8413 Does it have to do with skins?

YES _DO_ ADOPT THE GOTH, JON! 😁

"that'll be our gerard" and only several minutes later would he find out that it really **was** Their gerard. the eye

Also im sorry when did he die exactly, cause i think i missed it

@@user-dv6lm9xi1w Brain tumor.

@@user-dv6lm9xi1w 2014

OH MY FUCKING GOF AHAHAHAHAH

LMAOAHABS

The best thing about this fandom is the jokes that the fans make at the expense of the characters suffering and I LOVE IT

I GOT A HEADACHE LAUGHING AT THIS AJDJWKFBS

Dude the comments are so much funnier than the podcast

SAME! I THOUGHT HE WAS DEAD!

SAME I AUDIBLY GASPED

I think that was the point ​@@chips3536

MY JAW DROPPED

Leitner: The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated

OH MY GOD-

n o

Y E S

Lmao

Thanks for this comment.

The Delta institute. You'll never escape. Also high quality reference right there

@@virginiaf4117 honest to g-d i'd rather work for the eye than any airline company. i don't care what's trying to kill me it's better than customer service

@@TheRealEvilkitten3 fair enough. It probably drains your immortal essence but at least not your will to live

@@virginiaf4117 better a pawn to a sexy spider lady than a cog in the great machine that is society lol

BO BURNHAM REFERENCE

I think it says something about jon that they think he would murder a guy and leave him in his office

I mean Sasha got fucking eaten by a changeling so that's one down lol

Me fucking neither

AND THERE WERE ALSO 3

Ya finds out more later...

oh no

What!?

What!?

Alex and Johnny confirmed it

THATS ADORABLE WHAT

THIS

Oh No Jurgen Leitner

JURGEN, NO

OH NO NOW I KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS

I'm confused and concerned

I found him pretty pathetic going through his life story. The guy was an idiot that heralded dangerous things just for keep sake and now half of England is in turmoil because of it, let alone largely other parts of the world already. I mean at least he thought he was making things right but really all he did was run and hide. He didn't track down the books to get them back into the right place or at least a better one, didn't even try to disengage any of them (like how some can be burned), he probably could have spread around manuals just as easily as the books themselves but thats not something that was considered. I'm not saying he deserved to die, getting a beatdown by Gerard was probably enough considering the books weren't actually his making. But he made them his responsibility. And then he abandoned that responsibility and left everyone else to clean it up and die for it. Kind of reminds me of Gravity Falls, yet again. A hubris ridden man, selfish, self absorbed, so caught in his fascination he doesn't even realize that he can't escape it. And when he's gone, everyone else is going in blind and defenseless all because that stupid, selfish man could do nothing but play with extremities that he never should have endeavored in the first place. Damn it, if I don't love this podcast.

There is always time to have a breakdown, librarian

Memento mori

It took Jon 2 and a half minutes to have his breakdown, The lybrerian is dumb

​@omgfiredragon Well, 2 and a half minutes is a lot of time when you're hiding from the supernatural

I mean he was right they didn't and now look what happened

It's his favorite pastime

I hope this is not foreshadowing

@@Companion92 I'm 100% sure it is. xD

@@nanahuatli2144 No no no no no Martin has plot armor

@@amphitritemists4595 Hmmm... Even if he does, I strongly believe Jon isn't going to survive beyond the end of the series, so Martin can look forward to that. XD

@@nanahuatli2144 I decided that if they have to die I want everyone to die together. This is the first time I'm listening to the podcast so I haven't reached season 5 yet and I have no clue what happens but if everyone else dies, especially Martin the cinnamon roll, I don't want Jon living with survivor's guilt knowing that all his assistants died because he failed to protect them that would be too painful :(

yeah the beating to death... took me by surprise. I thought he had a weapon, at least... Fuck, man.

@@megalunalexi5601 I think he had but he still chose to bludgeon him? It was horrible.

@@nanahuatli2144 I think he used the pipe Jon had from before. I just assumed he'd have a gun or something, seems much more his style

@@megalunalexi5601 The transcript mentions a click, and Elias threatened to kill Leitner if he reached for a book (which he couldn't do faster enough with the pipe), so I think he had a gun, but instead went for the bashing. It was probably one more thing that'll fuck with poor Jon. :(

@@nanahuatli2144 Ahh, fair. I didn't know about the transcript back when I was listening, I guess I didn't hear the click

Everything will be fine. He'll get a cosy cabin in the country by the time this is all done, i'm sure.

@@mimkyodar why do you have to do this to me after mag160 xD

@@markyjanu10 ;)

Yes, I'd like to sign the petition of less trauma for Jon, please. I brought 2 028 pens and I intend to use every one of them until they are dryer than the desert of Elias' dead unfeeling heart.

It Only Gets Worse From Here !

"we have no time for you to have a breakdown, archivist."

Bruh

[& clapping ass cheeks]

Imagine if he decided to collect, like, cards or something. He'd have 3 white lotuses from MTG within weeks

someone please get an MTF in these archives

Yea, that's the difference isn't it. The SCP Foundation actually is an equal player in the supernatural occurences around them. They have the power to face the supernatural and more often than not they can lock it away. The characters in this? They're WAY out of their depth.

@@draochvar9646 One has the power to lock them away or in the case of a certain lizard, allows them to lock it away. The other notices things they miss and fail to mark as supernatural.

If they kill off Martin I'll commit some crimes. (Not listed to avoid lawsuits or jail time)

...might I inquire for details?

@@agnieszkasalach4395 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XqPK3habeMk.html

@@cractor6307 This is wonderful, thank you for enlightening me, kind stranger

@@cractor6307 Holy shit that was amazing

@@cractor6307 YES!!! I have had that stuck in my head for days!

Well, he did use the lighter for it after all...

remember kids, smoking kills

haha oh shit thats a really good point actually

Oh...

Oh my God I didn't even consider that- also isn't addiction a main aspect of the web

Also I think it's funny how much Leitner sucks at explaining things to Jon. Other characters managed to do it far better than he did

I saw a comment on a later episode a while back saying it's like how much humanity/humane actions & thoughts the Archivist maintains. I have to agree tbh

yeah fr. despite everything, jon puts a lot more effort into protecting & making sure his assistants are alive than basically anyone else in a similar position of power.

Jon is a very _humane_ person. He values other people's lives intrinsically and doesn't put others lives above his own. Most other characters show themselves to be selfish in that they value their own happiness or safety over others (usually Jon's) wellbeing. I think the series has a lot to say about the convenience of compassion.

xD LOL ( nice one )

And Gertrude Robinson is his mother... crazy world

@@nzekwueairel1278 it honestly sounds like Jonny Sims comes from a lineage of terrific voice actors

The end of the first season was scary but ultimately there were a lot of badass shenanigans and adventure and shit. This is... just depressing.

Well he was paranoid

dont worry the tape still is there.

Yeah same

I thought we were talking Gabriel from Supernatural at first. He was a great dude, but, same shit: couldn't be trusted. At all.

OH MY GOD THEY SOUND SO MUCH ALIKE

JSHSHSBB YEAH

Big same

i guess it's kinda like the shower scene in Psycho. What gets you is the sound of knife meeting body. Leaves you to imagine what makes it.

@@Fab4Sunrises What I learned watching the modern Doctor Who, contrasted with the old one, is that if you really want to scare your audience (and not have crappy CGI), you have to not show too much. People's imaginations can do better than anything you could- you just have to hint at it. But while you're right, I watched "Psycho", and many other good horror movies, and as I said- nothing has yet filled me with such terror. Of course there were some good scares, but in a movie it's just less impactful, maybe because I'm desensitized to it. Hearing it makes it different.

@@calhanlon5568 Thankfully, I don't live in USA, so not every 1 in 133, but 1 in about 1428 people get murdered. So, also thankfully, I have never seen anyone die. But I'm certain you're right about that. A person is alive, and then the next moment, they aren't. Bizzare.

@@cawareyoudoin7379 Like in the midnight episode, the only cgi was used to set the scene, the rest of it was just banger acting. And the first appearance of the weeping angels too, Good acting and some simple practical effects.

@@tearez13 Practical effects absolutely for the win!

More of a “hm.”

i mean, he didn’t really have a liking for jurgen and on top of that, he’s really paranoid so when they found jurgen’s body in jon’s office,, well u get the idea ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The body was in Jon’s office and Tim already disliked him. Also, why would something that looked and moved like Not!Sasha kill someone with a metal pipe, of all things?

@@alkalimepie well, I don't think they would recognize him as Jurgen right away. Brushing the pipe mutilation aside, I don't think they actually know what Leitner looks like. After all, they've only ever dealt with his name and his books. And even if they were familiar with his appearance, it'd probably still take them a minute to accept that Jurgen Leitner of all things was haunting the Archive's tunnels and is now lying dead in their boss' office after 20 years of incredibly successful hiding.

If you can make sure to not go into any institutes right

Tell us if you come upon fabulous wealth and decide keeping mysterious, occult books is your new passion

on my third listen through. it does not get better

On my, like 8th relisten. It only gets worse each time. Look forward to it!

Wait she's alive?!

Wait what??

@@wawa2001late response, but it’s implied they saw her in the corridors as they were trying to get out, but couldn’t or didn’t help her. In the statement when Michael stabs Jon, Michael didn’t want Helen to leave and when she was leaving after giving her statement on escaping the door hallway, she opened a door that wasn’t there and was put back into it! I love all the little details they put into this podcast

oh fuck

An apt metaphor! 👀

we're gonna need a bigger countermeasure

only 9 minutes in and this comment scares me

oh. that sounds like foreshadowing for sure

wait, Gerard was part of the Institute? I didn't catch that part

@@fluffsnake eh, no. Jurgen was telling about a young man with black hair that almost killed him once and Jon recognised Gerard.

@@grinstrashcan yes, now I know ^^ the way Jon put it though, sounded almost like Gerry was part of the little Institute family xD heh

@@fluffsnake SPOILERS i mean... technically, he WAS in a lot of ways. Keay's son of a man who worked in the institute and (basically) adopted by Gertrude.

Filled with demonic tomes of otherworldly Eldritch evil?

@@JesseColton I mean, I think that goes without saying

But you can't read any of them.

@@nanahuatli2144 No, but they look pretty.

Jesse Colton EXACTLY!!! sign me the fuck up !!!!!

When you can't quit, then the archive got you too

We're fucked, it got to us. _We have been marked_

Also I think it's ironic how people consider Martin to be this sweet little thing when he is yelling at Tim like he has rabies love him

Good catch!

SOME SHIT ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN, HYPOTHETICALLY, HIS LIBRARY.... ( if you weren't referencing the meme, i apologize )

You're absolutely right actually

Oh my gosh! You're right! lol!! That's one of those weird things where if you play it over and over and focus on which word you want to hear, "queer" or "quit", you can perfectly hear either one.

I don't know i hear it as Clear

What do you mean this is only the begining. Nevermind Jon's mental health, I can't take much more of listening to actual cold blooded murder happening. How is it gonna get worse.

@@applesource8261my sweet summer child

I just started listening to the podcast, and this comment scares me like no other 😃 I don't know what rollercoaster I have strapped myself to, but I guess I have no choice but to continue lol

your words remind me of Jon

@@veronica7426 Thank you, if that indeed was a compliment. I stopped listening after season 4, and am now only learning what's going on trough spoilers from the fandom. I might finish it after it ends, when everything is decided and done

@@cawareyoudoin7379 I'm mid season 5 and its pretty great so far, I'd say its worth listening to even if the ending will probably be depressing.

@@williamdavis671 I'll find out what the ending is, and then maybe listen.

@@cawareyoudoin7379 I'm not there yet, but in case you didn't know, the last episode has aired. I hope it's all we could wish! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3-e_eYFPjfU.html

Becomes even funnier if you imagine all of them waiting politely in line, no need to have bad manners

Well, he's certainly not the most innocent person to die on this show

He kinda brought it upon himself, especially in his monumental hubris

Yes he did

He did kill all the assistants

He didn’t deserve to die. I mean sure he got a lot of people killed and probably had it coming for a while now but he didn’t deserve to die like this

Same man

Same!!! I had to do a double check, don't trust that at allll

nvm he seems like he was a bit of an avatar perhaps or marked or whatever

Hi! I just got to Magnus Archives Episode 80 where you were 8 months ago when you noticed that Leitner's voice went evil twice on the words "of course" (18:27) and "'yes" (22:42). PLEASE without any spoilers, can you just tell me if that ended up being important to the plot? Since John didn't react to it and the tape didn't start making weird noises, I thought it might have been an editing mistake by the podcasters...but it seems WAY too obvious and evil and confined to a single word to be a mistake. Could you just tell me a 'yes' or 'no' if it ended up being important to the plot? Thank you!!! :)

@@caseylocke4474 its been a while since i listened to tma but i think no

I know! I had to replay it to make sure i wasnt mis hearing

And now, the weather.

Yeah that’s what I thought too

To the family of Sasha James...

Thats why I looooove Nestle ~Crunch~

Hi! 7 months ago, you posted the time indexes for a "Gore sounds warning" on Episode 80 of Magnus archives which was liked many times. May I ask a silly question? What were your thoughts behind letting people know about that? In other words, are those sound effects something that bother some people and you were just being kind to inform them? Just curious. Thanks!

@@caseylocke4474 This was sort of for me, sort of for others. I have a gore sound trigger, and I will spiral into a panic attack when I hear sounds that are very gorey. I put these times stamps here so 1. If I relisten, I can skip. And 2. If other people need to skip they can. Tma is an awesome series as a whole, and I want other people and myself to be able to enjoy it.

@@inkdragon3455 Oh, I see! That's very cool! Thanks for explaining and sharing with others. Much appreciated. :)

ooo *takes notes*

Agnes didnt like flame actually and she died ?? Wasnt she part of lightless flame cult ? A one more thing to add to note A staff being taken from a great hand out of roof, reminds me of "Free fall" where the guy got eaten by sky itself

Only he keeps contact with the Lukas family and has been in the archives from ~30 years so I did have my doubts with him when he said "what SuPeRnatURal? What prentiss ? " Like he didnt encounter anything of this sort ever

yep : )