The Magnus Protocol 17 - Saved Copy 

"Hey Sam! Sorry I can't make our date, I teleported into the middle of the road in Oxford while I slept ❤"

big, soft looking guy who stumbles over every word, bookish guy with city miles even the ever expanding multiverse of incomprehensible horrors isn't enough to stop queer british love

“Big soft looking guy who stumbles over every word” close enough.Welcome back Martin K Blackwood 🎉🎉

Isn’t it interesting Celia teleported to Oxford and then Chester just HAPPENED to read a statement from Oxford…

“Telling him way more than I meant to” that sounds like Jon pulling a statement out of somebody

TMA was an office comedy, TMP is an office romance

If Colin has been gone for weeks… that REALLY reminds me of season 1 Martin hiding out from the worms…

BOOKISH AND SOFT?!?!?!?! FIRST MENTION OF OUR BOIS?!?!?!?

The way he is insisting at the end about how he is a good person despite everything reminds me of the person from tma who stole people livespam

Sam: Constantly goes looking for horrors even after being told to stop Sam: "I’m not a big horror fan"

"bookish-looking pervert that strokes orchids" is the funniest description of Jon i've ever heard. He just can't catch a break can he?

So that's why patrons were asked to BE NORMAL about this episode.

5:20 Wait… that… the receptionist and the other guy in the waiting room. Those sound a lot like Martin and Jon, right?! Are those our boys?!!! 😭 (Also, Darrien’s little comment of “Thinking back, I almost wonder if the same thing happened to them…” ARE THOSE OUR BOYS?!!!!)

The amount of references to tma in this episode is INSANE

It's a Statement! IT'S A STATEMENT! GUYS GUYS GUYS WE GET AN ACTUAL STATEMENT!

therapy in tmp so good you even get to met your alternative-universe self!!

"That's a nice situation! I don't see the horror here!" Darrien : kills his toturer doppelganger "Hugh... sure"

You know a show is amazing when hearing the word Oxford makes you go “OH Shit!”

girlboss therapy'd so hard he teleported himself to another dimension

Oh Darrien, never trust the rich, even another version of yourself. Damn, he really pulled an uno reverse.

The feeling of the walls being so thin you can hear everyone else makes me think of the eye

What if the other victim, that Darian wouldn’t go see, was A THIRD DARIAN.

HOO BOY! Another episode that sends my theorizing brain into _overdrive!_ 🤩 1. Celia is still sleepwalking, or sleep teleporting or something. And this time she wakes up _on train tracks_ with a train heading towards her! Holy shit, girl! Whatever is happening to you, I really hope you get help for it, because _yikes!_ 😬 (I have several theories forming about her “sleepwalking”, especially after this episode, but none have fully solidified yet.) 2. Celia tells Sam that she was in Oxford. If that’s true, that’s quite far away, which is why I suspect that Celia isn’t simply sleepwalking. Either she’s teleporting somehow, or maybe another consciousness takes over her body from time to time, and fully uses transportation of some kind. 🤔 3. Another statement directly from The Magnus Institute! At the “Oxford Outreach Center”?!! About doppelgängers and alternate dimensions?!!! The details in this statement have me asking _several questions!_ - Is this branch called the “Outreach Center” because it’s near the rift, and it “reaches out” to other dimensions? Or to people who come through from other dimensions? - What is the Welling Mutare Materia research program?! And why does it involve incarceration?! - What made Darrien cross over?! Was it the therapist? The meditation? Everything described about this Dr. Dumfries seems suspicious as hell, so I’m guessing it’s something to do with him… or maybe it’s because (possibly) people fitting the description of Jon and Martin were also in the waiting room?! - What the hell happened to Darrien during the transfer to emaciate his body to such a degree?! Holy shit, dude! Either dimensional travel is not instantaneous, and it actually takes an exceptionally long time but holds your body in stasis or something, or it’s just a particularly rough crossing somehow. 😬 4. Celia talking to FR3-D1 is kinda cute. Although the phrase “Not exactly the same, is it?” has me _thinking._ So, I assume Celia didn’t kill the version of herself from this dimension, but I have a feeling there’s a reason there’s not two of her running around… Is that why she has a son now? The baby is actually from the version of herself from this dimension?! CELIA! I need more information! Tell me your story!!! 5. COLIN GETS MENTIONED!!! Sure, it’s just to say that no one but Celia has seen him around lately, but at least he’s been mentioned!!! I’m so worried about my grumpy paranoid IT boy! I really hope he’s okay, and is just _really_ good at avoiding the cameras and recording devices now. 6. Another .jmj error on Alice’s computer… I wonder if only her computer gets them. I assumed it happens to the other computers, but the two times we’ve heard about it so far, it’s happened on Alice’s computer both times. Coincidence? 🤔 7. Alice was great about opening up to Sam and Celia about her bad experience, last episode, but neither she nor Gwen are good about opening up to each other. I feel like Gwen is isolating herself, trying to shoulder this new job and horrible responsibility alone, and we’ve learned before that that’s not good in this line of work. I worry about her…

celia is still looking for information about parallel universes / alternate dimensions ..... theres no way she isnt the celia from TMA

Trapped-in-a-computer Jon being forced to read a description of his alternate-universe self as “a pervert really into stroking orchids” is savage. In every dimension this poor man gets bullied by everyone who looks at him.

The phrase “The Vicious” was capitalized like a proper noun in the CC when Darion referred to his father as “the vicious bastard”. That plus clean stainless steel mixed with a love of torture. New Slaughter iteration?

Wait is the mansion reminding anyone else about Hill Top Road ?? It would make sense that different dimension people would meet there because of the breach right ???

Before the statement actually begins, something called the "Welling Mutare Materia research program" is mentioned. Mutare materia is Latin for "change material", another link between the Magnus Institute and alchemy.

I hadn't been hearing the glitches but BUT OH BOY DID IT GLITCH WHEN SHE SAID IT WAS OKAY

Those HAVE to be our boys right? They can’t NOT have been Martin and Jon, RIGHT?? At any rate, Alex and Jonny really FED US this episode, the tma stuff is abundant and scrumptious. (Also Darrien is a slay, if I found a version of myself that was super rich I would also not feel too bad about taking over his life and locking him up in his torture basement 😊♥️)

1:33 Pre-case 3:39 Case (Web, Eye) [Statement: Chester] 20:30 Post-case

A "JMJ Error", huh. Wow, I wonder what that could POSSIBLY stand for.

I love that Alice and Gwen are becoming friends very slowly. Slowburn ftw

It's interesting that when CELIA gets teleported to Oxford we don't only get a report in Oxford but we get a Report about DOPPELGANGERS, Alternate Universe's as well as possible mention of the universes special little guys.

Ah yes! Meeting another version of yourself who is just better in every way.. The true horror!

just what I needed right before being hospitalized to a mental asylum!!! thank you, rusty quill, I'm telling about you to my therapist though!!!

The best ad-lib I've ever heard. ❤

After my hyperfocus on tma and tmap ended - i listened to it all in two weeks - i pulled out my guitar and realized i have free time again. Literally a minute after this episode came out.

You know what this series could use? A kaiju. Not like Godzilla, no. No no no. Something more Lovecraftian, narratively. Something VAST that lurks “down there” in the deep. And we’d best not disturb it. It’s horrible enough when it just moves in its sleep. Humanity might not be able to survive what it could do if it actually woke up and started acting purposefully….

So was the other Darian aligned with one or more of the powers or was he just a run-of-the-mill serial killer? The only obviously supernatural part of this statement was the first Darian’s crossing over into another world and the Magnus Outreach Center. If the other Darian wasn’t an avatar then kudos to Rusty Quill for making him sound just as scary as one. There’s something uniquely terrifying about the idea that an alternate version of yourself wouldn’t need to be possessed by any paranormal forces to become the villain in a horror story and instead would just have to go down a different path in life.

WOM WOM WOM!!!!!! While listening Edit: 5:21 why does that remind me of Martin and Jon?? It’s kind of scary! Love it! 9:22 sounds like a guest for mr. Spider… 14:45 Oxford..? Like the place Celia teleported to?! Also! This sounds like that character from Jonathan Sims book 13 Stories from that one chapter! 18:21 Annabel Caine said the power would be moved and hidden back to the corners of the world(s) they were sent to. She never said the eye would stop ruling… 20:16 that one guy from TMA who said he was good and had to live so he’d take others lives to keep living and keep giving to charity! That what this sounds like! BEAUTIFUL WORK!!!! I LOVE THIS!!!!!!

"Thanks, I guess?" SHE'S TALKING TO FR3DI ! And FR3D1 gave her a case related to falling into another world ! Cool. ^^ Reminds me of Martin talking to the tape recorder, only this time the tape recorder is kinda talking BACK! Yeeeeee!

Alice and Gwen being best friend is what i'm rooting for ! They would take over the world by lunch if they decided to work together !

Well damn, this episode has a lot to cover so let's get started! First, we get some more of Celia and her whole situation. Seems like she's experiencing some sort of paranormal sleepwalking as she was unconscious and woken up by the sound of the train. It's also worth noting that she was in Oxford (if she's telling Sam the truth) and the case was from the Magnus Institute's Oxford Outreach Centre, plus she seems to talk to Freddy after finishing it. She said "Thanks, I guess. Not exactly the same though is it?" and said the case wasn't very useful to Alice. The first part is alluding to how Celia is also probably from a different world like the case subject, but seems like she didn't slip through the crack in reality like they did. The second part is what sticks out to me though as Celia previously asked whether it was possible to search through the cases based on their keywords, so it could be she wants to find more cases that are similar to her own. This one was but it didn't really tell her anything besides what she probably already knows: that people can just fall through the crack in reality into a different world. I also think its an odd detail in the transcript that Alice was wearing earbuds while Celia was listening to this case and that she returned the earbuds (presumably to Celia) after it was finished. This makes me think that Celia doesn't want the others to listen to cases about people crossing into different worlds to keep suspicion off herself. Next, let's talk about Alice's computer problems. A "jmj error" doesn't seem to be a real thing in our world, so either its just a random term for an error to add to the otherness of the Protocol world or its referencing something specific. I've seen people say it could stand for Jon-Martin-Jonah but I'm still not convinced Augustus is Jonah's voice. I'm guessing it has something to do with Alice's encounter with the tape recorder lady who drowned, though what exactly I'm not sure. Finally, the case itself. Poor Darrien definitely fell through a crack in reality like the one in Hill Top Road, based on the fact he ended up somewhere in Oxford (Hill Top Road is somewhere in Oxford and we know from TMA that people who fall through the crack end up in roughly the same place in space). It also seems like he ran into an alternate version of Jon and Martin in his old world (the new receptionist matches Martin's description while the new patient sounds a bit like Jon, albeit an unflattering description of him). I don't think its OUR Jon and Martin, that'd be a pretty cruel joke for Jonny to play on us. Poor Darrien also mentions the weird time discrepancies we've heard before in TMA, where the "present" isn't always the same across worlds. The last thing to talk about is actually the start of the case: Poor Darrien is labelled "candidate PD553" which if this is the same thing as the codes associated with the children from the Institute's Enrichment program, he must've crossed over quite a while ago since those codes are in the thousands. His viability as subject, agent and catalyst are all low which makes sense since it doesn't seem like there's any Fear that's particularly present in this case. He is instead recommended for the Welling Mutare Materia research program. Mutare Materia is Italian for Change Matter, which almost certainly means this program is dedicated to researching things that fall through cracks in reality, which would explain why the Institute has an Outreach Centre in Oxford: to keep an eye on the crack.

Annoyances to lovers? In MY horror podcast?

COLIN MENTIONED!!!! When is he coming back I need Colin's grand return.

best thing to listen to in the middle of a tornado

I’m a simple guy I see Rusty Quill post I watch and like

Wait wait wait a gosh darn minute...he told the person interview him that they would benefit from anger management..... Wdf is that alt universe Daisy?? My gosh i think it is

I just yelled "ITS MAGNUS THURSDAY!" and I am only slightly disappointed in myself Edit: why are we ignoring the fact that a statement is here??

This episode reminds me of the stranger who was trapped in the table. It could take people's likeness and voice. It happened to sasha.

Those people in the waiting room sounded a lot like Jon and Martin

VERY NORMAL EPISODE TODAY HUH PROTOCOLHEADS

I think one of the entities might have to deal with torture and anguish. Needles might be an avatar of this one I wonder if the entities grow more refined with each world they escape into. Maybe at some point, they may become actual eldritch gods with a will and mind of their own. The dreaded apotheosis

And I'm going to say this while I'm thinking about it, as long as multiversal travel is cannon I will be expecting a very odd encounter with Norris' batshit crazy steampunk variant and his space faring crew.

Gotta be one of the most chilling ones in Protocol for me so far.

I know someone who shares a full name with a reoccuring character from TMA yet I managed to go 5 whole seasons of it without a single person having my name and now here 17 episodes into TMP this is the SECOND episode with someone with my name and there's 2 of them!!!

I love the episodes structured like statements, you can really hear Jonny sink his teeth into them. Like he just settles right back into it

This one reminds me of the Daphne Du Maurier novel “The Scapegoat”, which was also about a man living the life of his double.

It can't be a coïncidence that the guys from the statement were also named Darrien, like the guy from TMagP 13; Futures

Putting aside the computers they use are buggy, Colin hurry back you knew something was wrong and then disappeared, if Alice is constantly getting this repeating error could this mean something is wrong with her or something bad is attached to her? NotSasha also had repeated computer problems in TMA. Have we heard TMP universe Celia, or is everything from Celia been the version from another universe (TMA possibly)

What a great way to end a thursday ! Thank you rusty quill :D

Isnt it suspicious that Celia commented on the statement about a dimension hopper killing an alternate universe version of themselves and taking over their life? isnt it strange how we all freaked out when hearing about a random son she apperantly has here despite clearly being from somewhere else(tm)....Very very interesting that she was in Oxford too...not like there's a tear in space-time there.....

I wonder: why is Celia a fully fleshed human with, apparently, her memories intact, when Chester, Norris and Augustus are (for now) only voices trapped in an old-fashioned software? Was she the real Eye's special little girl?

Does anyone know what the term Stroking Orchids means at 5:45 Sounds like a enthusiasm for something bad but I feel like it's britsh.

He found the version of himself that did live with his dad and became him. Crossing multiverses starved him

This reminds me of an amazing Webtoon called Parallel City, where the main antagonist is the protagonist's double.

Was he emaciated because he was being eaten by a spider 🕷️🕸️ 7:24 In this world like on hilltop road there maybe a basement to fees the spider and John and Martin are stuck there as she pulls people from different people from the multiverse Falling through the cracks 10:40

Okay, this was fantastic!

. . . . . WE FUCKING KNEW IT WAS YOU CELIA YES

Por fin pude ponerme al día con esto, literalmente no podía escucharlo por tres semanas por una muela de juicio que me inflamaba el oído que se mezclo con una gripe que me dejó afónico y me hacía sentir muy muy mal (Si, tuve el Bingo completo). TMA/TMagP es una de las pocas cosas que realmente disfrutaba invertir tiempo por lo que esas tres semanas fueron muy estresantes estando en cama. Estoy muy feliz de poder escucharlos otra vez y poder inundar a mis pobres amigos con muchos mensajes de teorías que no entienden en lo más mínimo JASHDJASHDA

i liked this one! also i want the two of them to be friends…or more perhaps??

The boyfriends are back, ladies theydies and gentlefreaks!

my guess for why the Fears aren't quite the same is that they were wounded by dimension-hopping, just like Darrien

I finally caught up! I'm listening to a Magnus episode on the day(ish) it came out!

Darren is a big mystery here. It appears he teleported to another version of him and after what happened it reminds me of how the Not-Them would take over, except it appears we see it from another perspective. There is a lot of weird shit going on, and I love it!

@RustyQuillPodcasts This needs to be moved into the The Magnus Protocol Playlist please.

Did Celia get teleported, or did she just wake up next to a train station and was woken up by the passing train? Being a victim of the stranger, she may be prone to unusual behavior post-post-apocalypse. Possible one of the powers “puppeting” her while she sleeps, or inducing dissociative episodes resulting in amnesia when she wakes up.

WHY do characters in horror stories go to the basement?! It’s rule number ONE to NEVER go to the basement.

Hello, Jon. Apologies for the goon session, but I rather wanted to make sure you started rizzing, so I thought it best not to announce myself. I’m assuming you’re solo queueing; you always did prefer to rizz your statements in private. I wouldn’t try too hard to stop mewing; there’s every likelihood you’ll just edge yourself. So just lock in.

HEY GUYS?!?!?! CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT CELIA SAYING "not again!" RIGHT AT THE START?!?!?!!?! LIKE HAS SHE HAD THIS HAPPEN BEFORE!?!?! CEILA , YOU AINT BEATING THE UNIVERSE HOPPING ALLIGATIONS

The last time I was this early, I lost myself in a crowd...

This reminds me of a Moffat story in Dr Who - behold the terror of meditation!

Man, I love the Winter King episode of Fionna & Cake

The implication of this are huge. Really makes me wonder if a certain someone ever meet their dublicate 🤔

The Magnus Institute got mentioned again

I'm supposed to be studying for my test later but I think this is more important🙏

“Felt good to talk” “telling him more than I meant to” “only interrupted to ask for times and dates” EYE AVATAR ALERT

Best part of my week!!!!

what time are new episodes usually released ?

THE BOYS? UN E-BOYED?

SPOOKY! THURSDAY! TIME! NOW!

Hmmm. Okay there's Slaughter for sure, but maybe Annihilation? The fear of a better, or worse, alternate timeline either imposing itself upon your or rendering everything you value moot is part of the Annihilation. Tapping into or indulging one's emotions is Slaughter.

it appears youve added a link to the website used to shorten links, and not to the episode transcript

Welling-Yutaria, Weyland-Yutani reference possibly?

DR DUNPHREY??? IS THAT YOU DR DAVID????

I really hope colin is ok... 😫 Where has he gone to...

If the two guys in thr waiting room really *are* jon and martin, that would mean that this guy's frist impression if Jon is that he's a pervert 💀

transcript link is broken

Twin, where have you been?!