The Making of Rose Quartz! Now We're Only Falling Apart Steven Universe Discussion Part 1 

Hahahaha she wasn’t *cut out* to be a diamond.

I think the seal broke because Steven is technically a diamond

I think either Roses we’re in a different section and everyone thought that Rose just walked off. Or Pink was actually trying to be an Amethyst but then designed a new court of gems later to match her appearance. For Pearl, pearls are decorations and barley noticed and since the Amethysts are new they didn’t really put much thought. For the Famethyst maybe most of them already went to work or maybe they were pooped and changed appearances later probably during the war

I like how this episode really cleared things up a bit. It makes seem Rose/Pink’s decision less selfish. She was trying to scare gems off the planet, but Garnet changed everything.

I see Sapphire's outburst at Ruby as just sudden rage. When someone is that angry they're going to say and do things they don't really mean, I've done that at times.

rly good episode honestly .completely changed the perspective of pink and truly made her more likeable.enslaving people wasnt actually her idea ,it was blues .she actually loved the planet and treated it with respect .and rly ,her actions and selfish rebelious nature is truly nothing but blue and yellows fault . the consequences of bad forced parenting .of being cold and forcing your views and beliefs upon your child .and in the end .because of this bad parenting , rose turned out they way she was .by being cold and ruthless towards her ,pink came to hate them and never realised how truly loved she was.she was disrespected just because she was different,cause she had a hearth . sure pearl had a role too ,but if anything ,pearl matured rose and made her saw the big picture and what truly the work of a diamond can do and the bad effects of it .if anything ,pearl has been a better figure in roses life than both the diamonds .overall ,this episode was great and it rly cemented both pearl and rose as my favourites.pink may have been far from mature and a tad bit selfish ,but hear hearth was in the right place .

Maybe the inconsistencies with the Famethyst are because they've been poofed and reformed since their initial emergence.

Pink referred to herself as an Amethyst to fit in while in the kindergarten. In Yellow's song "What's the Use of Feeling Blue?" There is a line "Why do you want to implore her subjects that destroyed her?" That shows Rose Quartz' we're Pink diamond only. Rose Quartz' only existed after Pink and Pearl visited the colony in disguise.

Re: why aren't there any rose quartzes in the prime kindergarten? My take is that since PD and Pearl warped there on a whim and the disguise was a last-minute sort of thing for PD to fit in with the amethysts, it didn't really occur to them at the time how odd it would look for her to be the only pink "amethyst" around a bunch of purple ones. Maybe they realized later that it would be smarter to create an entire new cut of gems (remember that PD created the rose quartzes) that resembled PD's gemstone more, and then pose as one of THEM instead.

If you think about it, the majority of gems who rebelled with Rose were most likely other quartz gems or maybe Rubies. Think about it. "Rose" preached her message to the masses of gems already on Earth. There were probably very few other types of gems who decided to rebel also, especially elites.

We actually did see some of the Famethyst, you just have to look really close. For example, we can see 8XG, 8XL, and those first two Amethyst guards from “Gem Heist”.

Regarding the thing about Rose calling herself an Amethyst, I get the feeling we’re going to hear or see more of this. Think about it: once Pink realized she looked so different from her Amethysts, even when disguised as a Quartz, she would have the motivation to create the Rose Quartz Gem type officially, and from it, her true Rose Quartz persona. She could come across as a simple soldier protecting her true homeworld, Earth, rather than a foreign invader who changed her mind. It made her cause more personal, but also more believable.

I am shocked how pearls aren't allowed even to imagine without permission, how Rose (and her backstory) was Pearl's idea...and how she was "given", maybe, as a gift from the Diamods (WD?) to PD to make her happy. Also, how PD more than a leader was a follower...

Ruby crying makes me cry

The whole thing is that Safire was the sort of the brains and ruby is the strength so Safire being lied to and not using the future sight to see the lie for what it is, she is more angry at her self than any one else. Because the fact that she let rose tell them that they are not going to be shattered and she trusted rose when rose was not rose but pink diamond was what Safire was really mad about.

8XL is the Amethyst hugged by Rose. Because in the zoo episode, 8XL states "Amethyst under me never popped out. We were all waiting and *pffffft* nothin'." Maybe they changed their hair when they changed their uniform from pink to blue. They could have even been poofed and reformed with longer hair as they most likely fought in the Gem war to avenge their diamond. Its still really early tho and I dont know that much about Gem "biology." For instance, is Skinny the Jasper "Off-Color" because shes a Jasper and was meant to be an Amethyst? Or is she a Jasper because she is an Off-Color Amethyst? Which comes first? Why are they called off color if multiple types of Quartz soldiers exist?? If the minerals of the ground dictate what gem comes flying out of it, should it not be painfully obvious that you wont get purple amethysts from that red sandstone stuff found in the Beta Kindergarten? what color are they supposed to be???? i have so many unanswered questions if someone can help me out that'd be great

I wasn't surprised much by this episode except the fact that Ruby is the one who runs away instead of Sapphire. Like I knew that's how the crewniverse was going to handle Rose Quartz's origins.

What if Steven has diamond pupils but you can't see them because of his eye color?

Steven is pink diamond (he has her gem) and he told pearl she could talk about it and that way the seal was broken. At least that's my opinion.

I think White Diamond considered Pink to be a waste of her time, which is why we've only seen Pink interact with Blue and Yellow.

When you wake up in the middle of the night to watch a SU episode in your timezone.......

The whole Rose quartz being pink diamond scenario and the entire gem war is basically be sums Up By this one phrase "you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs" Translation:it is impossible to achieve something important without there being some bad effect

I Wish SU had 20 minutes long episodes.. This episode just felt rushed :/

Well that episode escalated quickly.....

OMG YASSSS I REALLY WANTED TO HEAR YOUR OPINION ON THIS EPISODE!

I think Ruby was blowing off steam when she left the temple with Amethyst offscreen.

I hate to say it but, considering that they STILL didn't say ONE word about White diamond, I'm seriously putting to debate her existence. I know that there's that scene in Your mother and mine, but.....I'm seriously starting to think that it was just another part of Steven immagination. I really hope that I'm wrong.

This is truly amazing. And to add to the discussion in the beginning of why Peal can now speak openly about Pink Diamond I think it is because Steven knows the truth. He technically is Pink Diamond now as he has her gem so when he finally figures out the truth his will to want to know more would essentially break the preexisting lock/order for Pearl's silence. Well that's what I got from it anyways ^^;

Dude if you think about it, Pink Diamond said "Promise me... We'll never speak of this again." But as soon as Steven popped out of Pearl he spoke about it, and technically he's Pink Diamond now. The seal was broken because Pink Diamond broke it.

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I think ruby was unbothered because she wasn't a high ranking gem like sapphire ; sapphire gave up everything , while ruby didn't really have anything to give up since she was low rank ; so I think ruby sees it from the perspective of " I didn't really lose a place , however even if there was a war without rose quartz but with pink diamond, gems would have been shattered anyways.

You pointed out some things that made me question the continuity of the show myself. Very well put together. I still have a problem with PD/Rose. I just wish she stood up as herself instead of hiding behind this fake persona. I feel like if she continued the rebellion as Pink Diamond, it would show her individuality as a Diamond, and her maturity in a sense. It would have shown that she can take charge for what she stands for as a great leader, and she could be recognized as an individual and probably earn respect from her own colony. I feel like her shattering taints her image, and the Diamond's themselves, making them look weak and vulnerable when they are supposed to be strong and untouchable. It was a coward like move. But I guess that's what makes her character so complicated. You can see the way her mind thinks, and that's what I like about her. Her flaws made her very intriguing, and the fact that she realizes them later on and feels so guilty to the point of venting to Greg (I forget which episode), shows that she grew a lot in that time. Okay I'm done

I think some things don’t need meta-critical analysis as long as it doesn’t completely uproot the plot advancement of the show. Like the Famethyst or how Pearl is now able to tell what happened. I agree it had me thrown-off a little, but nothing to worry about.

8XL is the amethyst that came out above our Amethyst aka 8XM, she appears in the famethyst & this flashback but she looks different, the crew wasnt consistent with her design :(

The reason there are only amethysts are because Pearl specifically says that the new amethysts are about to emerge. All other gems from the kindergarten are likely already assigned elsewhere (as seen when the fresh amethysts leave 8XM behind and immediately head out to be assigned their duties).

Ruby crying broke my heart

SliceofOtaku this has really changed my perspective on this problem and wow I just can’t believe it! This is really a great interpretation!

In the Zoo arc, there were pink Amethysts.

Oh noooo i need part2. Love your videos. You're able to condensate all my thoughts into a great interesting speech. Plus adding more observations... just thank you Slice

omg yes. Yess im so exited for the upcoming vids considering how this one went! Great vid Slice!

No I need a part 2 now. Your videos are always so complete and well done. I love the fact that you always think outside of the box ❤️.

I think Ruby is gonna sing Escapism.

Yes!! I love your videos and I can’t wait for the next one. Keep up the amazing work!

Loved this vid, I was excited for you to make this video 👌👍

I honestly loved this episode the storyboarding was beautiful

I can’t believe Steven is A P P A R E N T L Y Pink !! Also maybe the different quartz are in different certain parts of the kindergarten?

I always love how thorough your vids are ❤, keep up the fantastic work... I'm going to go watch part 2 now lol

Amethysts, much like Rubies, seem to be not very strong thinkers. In which case, them not questioning why a pink Quartz and PD's Pearl is in their kindergarten may make some sense

I thought you weren't posting for awhile but in reality your videos didn't appear in my sub box. But aleast I get to binge watch your videos now, thats a plus. ^^

"welcome to Earth!" "that's the first and nicest thing any one's ever said to me." that's the Rose Quartz we know and love.

I not really explained but Amethyst are Violet tinted Quartz and the gems are created knowing EVERYTHING they need to know from the injectors coding and are not taught anything. So they know what they are what they need to do and what other gems roles are and the Hierarchy of homeworld along with the orders out of the mould. They would know that other soldiers are being made on the Earth and would help them as well. Although Pearls are a status symbol for their owners they still work for the owners as well so seeing a Rose Quartz guarding a Pearl is not outside the roles of Quartz Soldier (Rubys are Soldiers as well as Guards) and a Pearl doing a task if the Pearl was an owners only servant. Whereas the Diamond Pearls only job is to serve their owners the rest of the tasks where be done by other gems.

Although Pearls aren’t rare, they are programmed to have complete loyalty, which is why Crystal Gem Pearl was praised for rebelling. I doubt many other Pearls would even think about rebelling, especially if they couldn’t even “imagine” things without their owners permission.

We needed this. I was waiting for this all day.

Again, when White Diamond appears (which I’m assuming is going to happen in the final episode of Season 5 idk) it’s gonna get real ❤️. I know how hard it is to resist a good White Diamond theory but you’re going really well SliceOfOtaku!❤️

Why don't you have more subscribers?! I swear! Your channel is so good!💓

AHH!!!!!!! finally it's about time slice took you long enough

I have hearde a theory that The Rose Quartz soldiers do not exist, the ones in the zoo is just lifles stones that Pink made and than said She made new type of stone, and said they rebeled. She hoped that wolde scare everyone of the planet, but that did not work so the event if "The Answer" happend. Thats why there is no Roze Quartz in the kindergarden.

With the kindergarten, I think it can be explained as like what if she was just in the amethyst sector. The kindergarten is huge, but the visits have been mainly focused on amethyst's story so the amethyst sector would make the most sense

I love this video and all the ones you make I don't have time to watch all the shows I love so this is I think the best way to keep up to date thanks for the videos I can't wait to see the rest of them.

This episode made some really good points! Thanks man!

Pearl isn’t a basic type of pearl Movie-so the type pearl you want is the default form

"she is really 'bout that action right now" lmbo. my exact reaction. you're my favorite!

I know this video is older and you'll probably never see this, but, I believe the reason we never SAW any Rose Quartz in the Kindergarten is because they weren't finished "cooking" yet. Pearl states, "The *FIRST* Quartz soldiers are due to emerge soon." The Amethysts were the very FIRST batch of gems to emerge! Rose Quartz's could have been "planted" elsewhere in the Kindergarten and weren't due to "hatch" until a later date.

I'm excited for the new episode today! And the rest of this week.

Here are my theories to your theories. 1. Rose Quartz’s could have been made in another section of the kindergarten. Homeworld is very organised, and may have sectioned it up to better distribute resources or something. 2. Amythests are soldiers. Over the the thousands of years between their ‘birth’ and the Zoo, who knows how many were pooped or, like you said, shattered.

Pink!

My guess is she based the Rose Quartz cut on her Amethyst disguise after the fact. It's been shown before that Gems don't change color when they shapeshift.

Nice vid Slice!

I think there weren't much aristocratic gems rebelling because they didn't need to. They were the closest to the Diamonds, so received better treatment. The lower classes, like Rubies, were common as they are the ones who suffered the most. I don't think there were much Pearls there too as they are usually very loyal.

Pearl started the war

Above the "where are the other Rose quartz gems", I think it's possible that they emerged in a different section of the kindergarten. Pink went to the section Amethysts are supposed to come out of, but it's very possible that at the same time, a batch of rose quartz soldiers were emerging in a different place. Or they already emerged. Or they didn't emerge yet. I doubt Homeworld would dedicate an entire huge kindergarten only to quartz soldiers of a specific kind. After all, Pink would need a lot of gems to colonise earth. She would need a court of her own, and I doubt she'd be satisfied with gems transferred from another court.

I really loved this episode. I've been waiting for your video discussing it

2.15 I think when she says that's what I'm for, she means that's literally her purpose. That's what sapphires do

The ruby and sapphire reaction reversal is telling because of their traditional occupations: Rubies are basic soldiers that are meant to follow orders, sometimes with commanders that teand to usually withold information from them of greater magnitudes than what could be considered transparent to higher ups: something that Sapphire cannot truly hndle, her powers rely on knowing everything and cannot be allowed to have any flaw in-design.

"Pink diamond decided that she and pink diamond should go to earth"

I love how honest ur being with the ep and the show..

Personally, I saw sapphires whole rant as blaming the whole situation with rose on herself, and not bashing on ruby, though I can see how people can see it that way as maybe she just worded it weird/wrong. But I can't see sapphire bashing on ruby like that, it's not in ber character, as there was no way ruby could have known the truth.

Sapphire making that ice barrier thing at Steven and Pearl, reminded me of that scene from Frozen

It's always the blue gems doing the most. Lapis, Sapphire, Blue Diamond. Like, they're chill most of the time, but when they get messed up emotionally they're reeeeaaally messed up emotionally.

I think that the pillar of ice was like when you're sad and someone tries to come and comfort you, you will sometimes try and swat them away. Also, I just knew Amethyst would react the way she did.

whoo, more su content, love ya slice

Yayyy I love your videos. And you of course ❤️

This episode was basically just a filler episode, but it made so much stuff make so much sense, hopefully the next episodes to more into the diamonds or Steven discovering his diamond gem

I think the reason Pink Diamond said runing a colony was dull is because nothing fun was happening, and she thought that it would be much funner, or something.

I think in this stage PD has reached her preteen stage 13-15.

First time Rose went to the kindergarten she thought she shakeshifted into an amethyst not knowing she didn't look like one

Sweet vid, Slice!

I'm too hyped for this week XD

So happy to finish my Lapis animation before the SU bomb! I REALLY enjoyed Monday's episode 💖

I'm late on this video, but here are my smal thaughts: 1. I think there aren't any Rose Quarz at the Amethyst kindergarden for the same reason that there aren't any Jaspers. I always asumed every kind of gem was made in it's own kindergarden. 2. Maybe the Amethyst changed there apearance? Wouldn't be to much of a suprise concidering how long ago they hatched.

My mom looked at me like I was insane cause when I saw the notification I was like "YES! SLICE JUST DROPPED A VIDEO!"

8XL is the gem that Rose/Pink grabs by the arms and says "Wow, look at you! Welcome to Earth!". You can tell because she has the right shoulder gem. 8XM identifies her in "That Will Be All".

I thought it was ok for everyone to know cause Steven knows, and Steven "is" pink, and "pink" is now fine with everyone knowing

I believe that Rose Quartz gems were mainly made in Pinks Part in the Homeworld Kindergarten. They are also not off colors so they might think that she’s in a higher position than them and that she just got recruited here with pinks pearl because she should simply observe them.

Thank you Slice, very cool!

What if the reasoning for only amethysts emerging is that different gems have different times of emergence, like baking stuff. Like how brownies take a different amount of time to bake than a cake does. Not all pastries and foods take the same time to make. Different things go in them that alter the amount of time they need.

Thank you ;-; for finally covering it

Maybe the kindergarten is split in certain areas like that specific area is Amethysts and a different was Rose Quartz? And yes the Famethysts were waiting for her but maybe that was a different batch of the Famethysts we saw. Just some ideas

IM SO HYPE!!!!

- Sapphire doesn't want to talk, but we've all been in situations where we don't want to talk... but really we do. - Pink being bored was kind of like when you're a kid and want to do a cool job, but find out that job also involves a bunch of paperwork. - I'd say a rose quartz in an amethyst kindergarten is more like a pear being put with the apples -- and we know that the Beta kindergarten produced a few anomalies like Carnelian rather than just Jaspers. - It's quite possible that the name "Rose Quartz", and even the gem type, came later. We know Amethysts can have curly hair, and that slight variations in colour aren't always considered "off colour", it seems to be more of a metaphor for being variant and/or defective.