The Malbone Street Wreck | Tales From the Subway 

Only underground when going to CI yard for maintanence.

Wooden cars were banned from the subway in 1915, due to them being a fire hazard.

@@pbatommy And a splintering/shrapnel hazard as well.

For a reasonable account, please read "Under the Sidewalks of New York" by Brian J. Cudahay.

Yikes 😬

wow! they tell wreck stories like this in school car all the time?

@@brianaaaaaa I can only speak about what went on in my particular class, though some of my trainees told me it was brought up in their class as well.

​@@pbatommyBtw, CONGRATULATIONS on becoming a NYC subway train operator (motorman)!! That was one of many MTA jobs I hoped to perform as a youngster, before my "mother" decided to move us kids to LA....

MTA didn't exist yet

@@stevenroshni1228 I’m talking about their past company names, that’s what I mean about the “MTA was”

It was NOT MTA it was a private company at that time - it was taken over years later by the city board of transportation

The mta wouldn’t be included with past company names as its a government agency

@@_selvarajg_it wouldn’t be included with past company names as mta was not a company it was an govt agency

I think Luciano changed his name himself due to the anti-Italian bias at that time.

Checked out ur vid on conquesting pretty good

Thanks

@@johnv339 Wow! I saw the picture of the the R40 car and I'm quite familiar with the R16's. Rode one myself when I was a kid. Thanks for the picture!

@@floydmayo790 My pleasure; the second link is photo of right side. Notice how windows on doors are symmetrical with rest of windows pre-overhaul. They looked so much better back then. I also very much disliked elimination of back-lit advertisement racks--they lost much of their 1960's appearance post-overhaul.

I’ll definitely consider it!

The 9th avenue El; wasn't the dreadful accident there the city's very first "9-11" event?!

This kind of reminded me about that train derailment on the metro north at Spuyten Duyvil a few years back I believe for the reason of a train going too fast

@Geek City I may consider doing some videos on the LIRR/MNR wrecks in the NY area.

Luciano resided in Brooklyn, and it was thought he would get a trial that was more unbiased if it were to be relocated to another county. He resided at, or approximately 7 Street in Redhook ? "Uptown-Downtown" has an essay about it, but locating a copy would be next to impossible--it's a collector's item. "The Malbone Street Wreck" published by Fordham University Press should be easier to obtain, at reasonable cost.

Trials can be moved if the defense convinces that there isn't a locally available jury free of bias. Because this story was big news people already had an opinion before seeing the evidence closely

It might have to do with the fact that the state of NY was taking over the subway system

Government did not take over till about 1953, the State even later.

​@@johnv339How about Brian J. Cudhay's version of the event in his landmark book: "Under the Sidewalks of New York"?!

Yeah, I noticed I hadn't put out a Tales from the Subway video in a while so I was like "why not?"

Actually, BRT substation operators thought union saboteurs were up to sup'm, and cut the power back on, not knowing the severity of the carnage until several minutes later.

The A/B Standards existed at the time of the wreck; they were too heavy for the Brooklyn Bridge.

May they souls return 💫

I'll say around like 2 years. We still need a little bit more info

Not a chance. First, the IRT would reuse the Composites as express trains on the 2nd, 3rd, and 9th Avenue el lines. They were modified, with lighter, mono-motor trucks, and their electrical control equipment was changed out for newer, lighter control and braking equipment. Even with that, those cars could only carry passengers on the express tracks, or extensions built from the1890s onwards. Even if some Composites had been picked up, they could have only operated on newer sections of elevated line. The inner end of the Fulton El, where Brighton trains ran until a subway connection opened at Prospect Park, was NOT a section rebuilt for heavier trains. In fact, the tunnel where the wreck occurred was opened as part of the connection project just a few weeks before the wreck.

The term was motorman.

Evening rush hour--you'd be surprised.

Have you often wondered how a ten-car train of R-10s can move over 2000 passengers?!

Probably in 3 months lol

I just realized

I miss the r179,r160’s

cbtc on the QBL

The Williamsburg Bridge one I believe

Nope. There were a handful of accidents in the 1970/80s which prompted the introduction of timer signals in the system, but the speeds were only really reduced after the Williamsburg Bridge collision.

@@MysticTransit wasn't there one in the 1920s with a irt low V? I think that's the one

I’m not a fan of the proposal. I don’t think that corridor has high enough ridership to warrant a subway line (even a shuttle). It is a good corridor for light rail though.

@@MysticTransit I understand. Light rail can go a long way in NYC especially in Queens which is why I’m excited about the IBX.

@@St4rBoyRailfanning has there been any progress on construction of the IBX?

⁠@@karatekidfahim3 I don’t think so. They have revealed the stations tho……

@@St4rBoyRailfanning ahh ok, its been 7 months tho, hope they add the stations if the TA have the budget

Last time I checked, Jesus NEVER went on strike!!

Wha.

its traumatizing. ☠

Yes, they were called motormen, however, to avoid confusion with some of the younger generations who watch my videos, I referred to the motormen as "Train Operators".

@@MysticTransit I should've taken that into account.

​@@johnv339There couldn't be "motorwomen" back then, I suppose....