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The Man That Hated Lemons | Cave Johnson | Full Portal Lore 

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Having formed Aperture Science, Cave Johnson is arguably one of the most eccentric, egotistical and brilliant people within the Half-Life and Portal universe. With his contribution to science, his ego and blind ambition ultimately led to his decline.
Why does Cave hate lemons? Would he have settled for a simple desk job, and how can his life’s work make a positive change for the future of humanity? In this lore episode, I explore the story and lore behind Cave Johnson in Portal.
Timestamps
00:00 Intro & World
01:28 Early Years & The Rise of Aperture
07:28 Cave's Desperation & The Fall of Aperture
13:31 The Death of Cave & Aperture's Last Stand
18:11 The Multiverse & Legacy
23:49 Closing Thoughts
26:14 LEMONS
26:48 Ending
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@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
If you enjoyed this and would like more Portal lore - then please consider liking, sharing and subscribing! It would be high appreciated. I DONT WANT YOUR DAMN LEMONS
@rockhound3.14
@rockhound3.14 2 года назад
Ill burn your house down. With the lemons!
@rockhound3.14
@rockhound3.14 2 года назад
@Denis 🤣🤣🤣 💀☠💀
@Leefjuice4005
@Leefjuice4005 2 года назад
My brain: So there are other Aurora Borealises?
@rockhound3.14
@rockhound3.14 2 года назад
@@Leefjuice4005 the borealis is decribed as being in all places in all times all the time lol
@Velossitee
@Velossitee 2 года назад
EHEHEHEHEHEHEEEEM...Don't forget Nikola Tesla...Do not forget the man of static electricity and energy reservation.
@peppyrobo7049
@peppyrobo7049 2 года назад
The fact that we do not even see Cave at all but we know everything about him as a character is a testament to how good portals writing is
@LNSO2006
@LNSO2006 2 года назад
It's not nessesary to see someone's appearance at all accually anyways
@Omega-jg4oq
@Omega-jg4oq 2 года назад
And it's does make Aperture look much darker.. cause no human left except Chell.. so all you hear pre-recorded messages
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
It truly was great writing and level design
@fujiwaranovari
@fujiwaranovari 2 года назад
I think it has less to do with that and more to do with the fact Cave is an open book
@rymations1537
@rymations1537 2 года назад
We see cave multiple times?
@matti.8465
@matti.8465 2 года назад
I absolutely love Cave's ridiculous strategy. Just get a bunch of scientist, give them an absurd amount of funds, and tell them to "do science"
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
It seemed to work for the most part haha
@Gremlinne
@Gremlinne 9 месяцев назад
I mean, that was pretty much America and the Soviet Union to their scientists during the Cold War lol
@oofmyguy9807
@oofmyguy9807 8 месяцев назад
​@@Gremlinne and hey, it worked! We have internet because of it.
@fackynaxicht8603
@fackynaxicht8603 4 месяца назад
At this point Musk turned himself into Cave Johnson
@halo_gravemind
@halo_gravemind 3 месяца назад
@@fackynaxicht8603musk is like the complete opposite of cave
@never_meltice9996
@never_meltice9996 2 года назад
"Science isn't about why - it's about why not. Why is so much of our science dangerous? Why not marry safe science if you love it so much? In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired!" Cave, Johnson
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Love this
@219GeorgiaRoseXxX
@219GeorgiaRoseXxX Год назад
I wonder if all the people who where fired founded black mesa
@jacobj3933
@jacobj3933 Год назад
Unironically, why even do something for the sake of it, when at the end of the day pursuit for pursuits sake, or more specifically, scientific "discovery" sake. These sci-fi stories tend to warn all about at least some consequences of this outright pointless pursuit. Doing it, making it happen, for the sake of doing it or making it happen, when typically what's discovered never does anything useful, and is only praised for being discovered or achieved. But again is not useful in practicality.
@jacobj3933
@jacobj3933 Год назад
Take the portal gun. Sure it's neat, but to even make 1 working prototype, undoubtedly costed millions. Attempting to mass produce it would more than likely cause a company to go bankrupt. And that's being generous in assuming that for whatever reason, some other company or maybe a government wanted it to be mass produced. But the literal cost to do so would be far too great. The technology that the gun uses was expensive enough to create. The portal gun itself also an additional expensive cost. What purpose would a portal gun truly be to any other business, let alone say a government, when there's no real use for it practically. Better to invent or discover something that can actually be useful than to pursue an achievement or discovery that is only for it's own sake of being achieved/discovered.
@jacobj3933
@jacobj3933 Год назад
Essentially, just because something can be done or discovered, should it be? What good, or what use would it be to any society on earth if x was achieved or discovered? Why waste valuable resources and time on something that does little to practically nothing for the well being, not even the improvement of people's lives.
@maremaretac4355
@maremaretac4355 2 года назад
The fact that even Cave, as someone without a science background, knows the risks of a resonance cascade shows just how risky Black mesa was being with their exsperiments. He even tells them to "use common sence" and that is rich from Cave Johnson. When life gives ya lemons, make science-aid.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
I hadn't even thought of it that way! If Cave knew, why didn't they?
@maremaretac4355
@maremaretac4355 2 года назад
@@Skyrionn They did know of the concept and i think that in the lore one of the black mesa scientist wrote the book on cascades but as black mesa is pushing for profit first they ignored it
@Bananappleboy
@Bananappleboy Год назад
@@maremaretac4355 ...stares at Dr. Breen, administrator of Black Mesa staring at GMan who is staring at Alyx Vance 10-30 years into the future who is staring at GORDON FREE-
@minelayer26
@minelayer26 Год назад
@@Skyrionn i believe its because they thought the chance of it actually happening was slim, and it was mainly the gman getting an unstable specimen for the anti mass spectrometer to intentionally cause a resonance cascade
@demonking86420
@demonking86420 Год назад
@@Skyrionn ask Wallace Breen
@EmeraldArchive
@EmeraldArchive 2 года назад
I still can't believe black Mesa and aperture were seriously competing labs
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
I know right. I guess Aperture won in the end... in a sense
@ZigealFaust
@ZigealFaust 2 года назад
Well here's the thing: Black Mesa was controlled sciences with a roadmap. Aperture was chaotic sciences with no direction. Both ways of creating new technologies have their unique ups and downs, they were Yin and Yang to each other.
@mmgaming-pu7zt
@mmgaming-pu7zt 2 года назад
@@ZigealFaust and black mesa gives something goverment want, super weapon, actual alien life. Their technology isn't as advanced as Aperture science but they got sponsored by goverment (big advantage) and did what they ask. meanwhile Aperture science is super advanced, yes. But they would probably make a interdimensional crab generator when the problem is pipe leak
@ZigealFaust
@ZigealFaust 2 года назад
@@mmgaming-pu7zt That's a good point. Mesa is funded, Aperture is basically out of Caves pocket...
@dasirrlicht5415
@dasirrlicht5415 2 года назад
Aperture was so much more advanced on every corner, but Black Mesa did make fancy guns. So fancy that Aperture resorted to sell their turrets to the civilian market. In turn, weirdly, nearly everything made in Aperture is safer or at least more reliable and user friendly then the Black Mesa products.
@Raven
@Raven 2 года назад
Cave will live on in our lemonries.
@gamiezion
@gamiezion 2 года назад
thanks dad :')
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Best comment I've read so far
@CertifiedGrimlockFan
@CertifiedGrimlockFan 2 года назад
@@Skyrionn same.
@cavejohnson7609
@cavejohnson7609 2 года назад
I can not die. I will live forever.
@ArnieMcStranglehold
@ArnieMcStranglehold 2 года назад
Possibly the most underrated comment on RU-vid.
@TheMrsmartass13
@TheMrsmartass13 2 года назад
I heard a theory that; what if the gels needed time to become non toxic, since when Chell deals with the gels she is covered in it during a few puzzles, so either she will be riddled with tumors after her escape, or the gels have become less toxic over the decades it sat their waiting.
@guymanuel4260
@guymanuel4260 2 года назад
If I remember correctly, passing through portals undoes the toxicity in a body EDIT: Theorized. But here's hoping Chell is okay lol.
@Neon-ws8er
@Neon-ws8er 2 года назад
@@guymanuel4260 lol
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
I had the same though tbh! Cave did hope that passing through portals would remove the lunar poisoning from the gels but I don't think it was ever confirmed on if it worked or not. My thinking is no as he still died from lunar poisoning
@TheMrsmartass13
@TheMrsmartass13 2 года назад
@@guymanuel4260 okay then I can see that
@Jeremy-hn4uz
@Jeremy-hn4uz 2 года назад
Portal 2 takes place way in the future after cave Johnson was alive, and the half life (pun intended) could have been within that time, so it could have became less toxic, but I’m not a scientist so idk
@VeryPeeved
@VeryPeeved 2 года назад
you see this portal gun? i spent years facilitating the incredible physics breakthroughs that make it possible. do they call me the man who created the portal gun? no. you see these test chambers? i spent decades building them up, pouring funds and brains into creating the most devilishly challenging test chambers known to man. do they call me the man who created incredible test chambers? no. you see this company, Aperture Science? i spent near enough my whole life building it up from the ground. turning it into something grand, something truly incredible, something that pushed far beyond the bounds of what was thought possible. do they call me the man who created Aperture Science? no. but you rant about lemons *_one time._*
@juiceoverflow
@juiceoverflow Год назад
Too many words
@VeryPeeved
@VeryPeeved Год назад
@@juiceoverflow That's the joke.
@PH0B0PH1L1A
@PH0B0PH1L1A Год назад
i can hear this in his voice lmAO
@pokemata1035
@pokemata1035 Месяц назад
@@juiceoverflow I imagine you writing a Highschool Essay, getting halfway done, and then staring at it and screaming at the top of your lungs. TLDR; u impatient
@TheStrayHALOMAN
@TheStrayHALOMAN 2 года назад
Cave Johnson is what would happen if Ron Burgundy got into science.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
YES!
@TheStrayHALOMAN
@TheStrayHALOMAN 2 года назад
@@Skyrionn "I'm going to have my boys in the lab find a way to turn checkers and caulk into an afternoon snack." -Cave Burgundy
@cavejohnson7609
@cavejohnson7609 2 года назад
@@TheStrayHALOMAN I'm going to drop a combustible lemon down your shorts.
@MHKing03
@MHKing03 2 года назад
Repulsion Gel: 60% of the time it works, every time!
@Someone-wr4ms
@Someone-wr4ms 2 года назад
I like how valve was able to create such a legitimately tragic and morally gray iconic character and make him an absolute doofus without damaging our suspension of disbilief of his arc, in my opinion, the hole underground section from portal 2 has to be the single best written story on gaming history, one of the funniest, and also the only time I've ever cried while playing a video game, I don't think there's another game that has been able to work as well as portal 2
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
I agree with what you've said :) He's perfectly written and flawed. It's what we need in a character.
@TheRealEnclave
@TheRealEnclave 11 месяцев назад
Cry? But nothing sad happened.
@DevDabs420Official
@DevDabs420Official 10 месяцев назад
​@@TheRealEnclavemy guess is they cried cause the writing, not sad tears.
@Gremlinne
@Gremlinne 9 месяцев назад
SAME! A fellow individual of culture, I see :) Not only one for the writing, but also for the aesthetic of the different eras of Aperture represented. I replay those chapters every once in a while just to ogle the architecture, offices, and graphic designs and logos from each period. It feels SO authentic!
@clockworkNate
@clockworkNate 9 месяцев назад
@DorielM Hearing Cave Johnson go from a happy young charismatic optimistic man to an older moon dust cancer ridden old dying man, was pretty sad.
@Exnem
@Exnem 2 года назад
He is the real villain of Portal if you think about it, but his character is so endearing nobody ever really notices.
@flahoo2807
@flahoo2807 2 года назад
Oh yeah for sure. Cave is completely deranged.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
100%
@bitbreaker_creator
@bitbreaker_creator 2 года назад
I kin him but i agree
@Exnem
@Exnem 2 года назад
@@bitbreaker_creator You what him
@rosykindbunny1313
@rosykindbunny1313 Год назад
I mean, he's kinda the reason why GLaDOS exists
@dasirrlicht5415
@dasirrlicht5415 2 года назад
Its still funny that 'wacky' Aperture keeps creating useful and reliable stuff, while 'professional' Black Mesa struggles at every step of the way with making things useable. I mean, think about it: While Black mesa was struggeling with keeping their computers even running, Aperture had already developed Artificial Intelligence (Personallity Spheres had to exist back when GLaDOS was killed the facility the second time, which was at bring your pets/kids to work day, which means that the 7 hour war can't have happened yet... Except you wanna suggest Aperture survived the apocalypse and was able to keep working with human staff and such a thing as homes to go to afterward. Apertures Portals are instant, reliable, reasonable safe and you actually know where they lead to because you can look trough them! Unlike Black Mesas Teleportation, which does not allow you to see where you are going and is not exactly fast, coming with side effects like the end of the world as well. Its only advantage is that you can do it fully from one side, and don't have to set the exit at least once manually. Apertures turrets are the consumer version, even if still described as military androids. They can identify targets, shoot the full bullet and can hold a conversation. We are unsure if the HECU Sentries are a Black Mesa, Aperture or unaffiliated product. A lot of Aperture technologies work with nearly no power. They can keep most of an AI alive with a potato battery build by a moron. A moron they also invented! They have backup plans and emergency protocols running so far as the extinction of humanity and takeover of another sentient people stumbeling onto the testtrack. Which, even overgrown after the AI in charge of it got turned off, still worked. Mostly. The gels are theoretically rather useful stuff. Especially the orange one. Friction reduction would be useful in a LOT of fields. Anti Gravity Funnels. Bridges and walls made out of daylight. Emanicipation Grills are a really great thing, able to differenciate between You, your Clothes and things it will not allow to pass... Like potentionally your eardrums, but still, the fact that it can even pick out specifically the eardrumms is incredible. So much potential in that alone... What inventions has Black Mesa to show? Guns, a really nice transit system (that is late, assuming it is not just gordon), and interdimensional teleportation... Of course, the Earth Prime version of Aperture did the multiverse travel, but we don't drag them in or this would be totally one-sided. Same for all the side-games which feature Aperture stuff. Black Mesa probably also made some nifty things, but I feel like their stuff is mainly experimental weaponry.
@cypherusuh
@cypherusuh Год назад
Comparing both of them is like comparing oranges and lemon. It similar, but slightly different. Aperture focused on pure science patents alongside day-to-day products, while Black Mesa is pretty much a military company
@dasirrlicht5415
@dasirrlicht5415 Год назад
@@cypherusuh I mean, I would agree, if they did not outright call out ' Training Course for Military Androids' and 'Consumer version of our most popular military grade product'. They started by selling shower curtains to the military, and they never stopped producing and selling things to the military. But yeah, they are certainly not the militaries faveorite child.
@coyoots
@coyoots 2 года назад
Cave is my favorite Portal character. A prequel about him and the origins of Aperture would be cool, but It'd be strange to see an actual character model of Cave. I'm just too used to him as a disembodied voice, I guess. :P
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
I would LOVE a prequel.
@henrik1743
@henrik1743 2 года назад
Cave Johnsson is better at sales pitches and the delivery of them than Billy Mays, whoever did the voice acting of him did a phenomenal job.
@guymanuel4260
@guymanuel4260 2 года назад
JK Simmons
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Our guy J K Simmons. A true hero
@henrik1743
@henrik1743 2 года назад
@@Skyrionn wow that is amazing, had no clue it was him
@tragedyplustime8271
@tragedyplustime8271 2 года назад
J. K. Simmons, J. Jonah himself.
@dragonace119
@dragonace119 2 года назад
@@guymanuel4260 The legend also voiced Nolan in Invincible.
@Hervoo
@Hervoo 2 года назад
*Virgin Black Mesa:* we take care of our workers and scientists, and so about our experiments! (Ends up killing everyone and destroying the world) *Chad Aperture:* We throw science at the wall and see what sticks, no matter of cost! (Creates ground breaking device and facility that still lives centuries on)
@davisdf3064
@davisdf3064 2 года назад
*Gigachad Blaperture Mesa:* We throw money, people, cars and anything you could think of onto Science! And we rotting in money!
@ethanlivemere1162
@ethanlivemere1162 2 года назад
"Lives" *everyone in the facility is dead*
@deusexmachina2938
@deusexmachina2938 2 года назад
Considering that the Black Mesa incident even happened because they had decided to eschew safety protocols and began pushing the Anti-Mass Spectrometer beyond capacity, not to mention the constant jokes about the facility being constantly in a state of disrepair with stuff malfunctioning and exploding everywhere, where the intro even starts with a biological/radioactive waste just outside Sector C, they're just slightly more sensible about their science than Aperture is.
@apchistuz
@apchistuz 2 года назад
@@ethanlivemere1162 the facility is fully functional, and cubes are still manufactured
@tragedyplustime8271
@tragedyplustime8271 2 года назад
Black Mesa literally works on tape reels by 1998/2003 lmao, and they had constant toxic spills and computer malfunctions, imagine thinking Breen (The guy who sold out humanity) gives a rat's ass about his workers Also all of Black Mesa's experiments are either stolen from Aperture or planned by the G-Man
@realityveil6151
@realityveil6151 Год назад
26:35 - God, that little crack in his voice. It's so much. A broken man, lashing out at life and everything. It reminds me of homeworld in a way, that line right at the start "All orbital facilities destroyed."
@speedskeleton250
@speedskeleton250 2 года назад
"I am gonna burn your house! With the lemons! I'm gonna get all my engineers to invent a combustible lemon!"
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Love this
@samuelantoniocastillomeza5034
@samuelantoniocastillomeza5034 2 года назад
Cave Johnson comes across toem like someone who knows how to be successful and get the job done but getting obssesed with such things, makes him unhinged and finally turning him into someone full of anger out of frustation that drives into eventual failure. Anyway, great character and the lemons monologue is superb.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
It's probably my favourite monologue.
@ifipaidmybartabtheu.swould9208
@ifipaidmybartabtheu.swould9208 2 года назад
Think it's cool you're re-doing old vids with new info, show's just how much the channel has grown. Great vid
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
I honestly cringe a little when I look back at the older videos 😂 I was so proud of them! It's interesting to see how much I've changed though!
@23AXIS32
@23AXIS32 2 года назад
Yes I love these new longer in depth videos. 10/10
@mattcy6591
@mattcy6591 2 года назад
Jk Simmons voice acting is freaking great.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
He's incredible. This is my favourite role for him. The second being "FIND ME SPIDERMAN!"
@sookendestroy1
@sookendestroy1 2 года назад
The interesting thing with the half life/portal universe is literally anything is possible. Cave could come in and save the day, the combine could be trapped in a universe where portal technology can never be created, alternate universe could show up and affect stalemates etc. Valve leaning really heavy into the multiverse nature of the combine and by proxy the universe leaves literally endless possibilities. Also kinda funny aperture from some universes skipped through the multiverse with no real reprocussions while black mesa makes one big leap into it and instantly alerts the combine. Weve likely never seen the actual combine species, what a twist would it be if the origin of the combine were actually just aperture from another universe.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
This is a storyline I would be happy to see.
@juanletsplay1550
@juanletsplay1550 2 года назад
I love how in the LEMONS part, when Cave says his name, his name appears on screen
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
...I 100% planned that....
@metrocop-191
@metrocop-191 2 года назад
That picture of young cave Johnson really looks like an inspiring figure :)
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
He really does. I loved the portraits of him when navigating the facility showing just how far he fell.
@metrocop-191
@metrocop-191 2 года назад
@@Skyrionn It's sad but very interesting!
@loxodoncyclotis1823
@loxodoncyclotis1823 2 года назад
The more I learn about Elon Musk, the more I realize he's not so much a RL Tony Stark as a RL Cave Johnson.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
100%
@Vly-nn2sv
@Vly-nn2sv 2 года назад
Didn't think of this. Mind you, I'll steal it :D
@rosykindbunny1313
@rosykindbunny1313 Год назад
Pray his assistant doesn't turn into a robot
@Vly-nn2sv
@Vly-nn2sv Год назад
@@rosykindbunny1313 forcing someone into a robot would be a musk thing.
@Bananappleboy
@Bananappleboy Год назад
Oh boy, can't wait for elon musk to make lemons and moon rock portal conductors with no use whatsoever!!!!! Obvious sarcasm
@piotrek5s170
@piotrek5s170 2 года назад
Now that im thinking about it, Cave technically died of pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
That hurt my brain
@mombear2749
@mombear2749 2 года назад
What the heck!?
@keterpatrol7527
@keterpatrol7527 2 года назад
YES! Exactly!!
@d.l.8394
@d.l.8394 2 года назад
What is pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis? noun | A lung disease caused by the inhalation of very fine silicate or quartz dust, causing inflammation in the lungs. The sharp particles lacerate the lining of the lungs, causing the victim to leak air from their lungs while simultaneously bleeding into their lung cavity.
@d.l.8394
@d.l.8394 2 года назад
@LordBob it is apparently
@jasonsamuels3757
@jasonsamuels3757 Год назад
You can sort of interact with Cave in Lego Dimensions. Every level has a bonus character you need to rescue for 100% completion. In the bonus Portal level, you can rescue a personality core with Cave's voice. The core claims that Cave survived long enough to transfer his consciousness into the core. That seems to have worked out better for him than that giant robot head.
@softtracc
@softtracc 2 года назад
cave johnson is one of my favorite video game characters
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
He feels so real. Amazing writing on Valve's part
@softtracc
@softtracc 2 года назад
agreed
@ambrusraul2297
@ambrusraul2297 2 года назад
How is it possible for me to stay focus on video topics im not normally invested/interested in ? You remind me , as story telling of Thomas the Tank Engine and things i dont normally bother to understand it feels like i know them all my life because of how you make your videos . This is a strong channel , to be invested in something i dont normally try to explore myself
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
That means a lot bud. I worked on my speech pattern more in this one too. It was slightly faster than normal. I do recommend playing the Portal games if you haven't. They're so good with fascinating lore
@StevenS757
@StevenS757 2 года назад
I like the Cave/Carolyn is Chel's parents theory because of all the hints. 1. Cave & Carolyn's implied romance 2. Chel having a C name 3. Chel's science project being in that facility for "Bring your daughter to work day." 4. GLaDOS' judgemental comments to Chel about her parents and appearance. 5. GLaDOS' Opera lyrics translation and closing Song to Chel as she escapes the facility, implying care and worry.
@PeanutButterWasTaken
@PeanutButterWasTaken Год назад
I think it’s more likely that her parents were either just random employees, or she is Greg’s daughter. I was listening to a collection off all of the cave Johnson voice lines in the dlc, just your typical portal fan behavior, and there’s one line where Greg’s daughter runs in and talks into the mic. If I remember correctly, it’s something along the lines of, “We are going to test forever and ever.” Also, unless cave and Caroline adopted, glados would know Chell isn’t adopted. I guess here Caroline side and memory’s were pretty suppressed, but if she was cave’s daughter it would definitely be marked on her file which both glados and ratman have access too.
@thefakemcbirdo
@thefakemcbirdo Год назад
I feel like GLaDOS's snark about parents and appearance was more of something to bother Chell, she really pushes the envelope on hating you 60% of the game. plus, those are the two things to set a person off if you think about it. why do you think "yo mama" jokes are/were popular? people just really like making jabs at parents, nothing really to look into. not trying to come off as rude of course. :) ** also, Chell has severe brain damage (we could assume she has amnesia to a degree) and we literally get no backstory about her besides her signature on the overgrown potato on BYDTWD. GLaDOS can lie about anything and we wouldn't even know it unless she outright tells us, she has done it before and most likely will keep doing it lol.
@doggosuki
@doggosuki Год назад
@@PeanutButterWasTaken dont the fat turrets song translate to a song about a mother loving her daughter or something
@cacovonluca
@cacovonluca Год назад
@@doggosuki The translate doesn't say the words like "daughter" or "child". I think it's just a gift from GLaDOS to show the maternal bond she grew by having Chell at her side.
@danielbishop1863
@danielbishop1863 Год назад
The main problem I have with that idea is the timeline. Assuming that Caroline was born around 1930 (to be an adult in time for her first voice recording in 1952), and Chell was born around 1980 (to still be in school after "Take your daughter to work day" was started in 1992), then that's a 50-year age gap between the two. That's rather unusual for a biological mother.
@Rogue_5507
@Rogue_5507 Год назад
I grew up with Gravity Falls and knowing the same voice for Stanford and Cave are Simmons it always makes me think that these two geniuses are the same person
@Cobretsov2022
@Cobretsov2022 2 года назад
Great acting with phenomenal writing, this is my personal way of describing C. Johnson
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
exactly.
@royliber3824
@royliber3824 2 года назад
Great video as always Skyrionn! I also thought about the theory of Chell being the child of Cave and Caroline... However one thing doesn't add up about this theory, if GLaDOS is Caroline's conciousness... How come GLaDOS doesn't really recognize Chell? Infact, why would she try and kill her own daughter? One easter egg that adds to the theory is about Chell's creation in the Aperture Science fair where she basically made a growing potato... We know Chell stuck around Aperture probably more than anyone else, so her parents most likely played a significant rule there. We also know her "brain damage" refers from her of remembering anything that happened, so its not like she could show who her real parents are, or even know where to look... Also GLaDOS laughing about Chell being an orphan... Its funny because if the theory is true she is laughing at her own daughter for not having parents. I don't think this theory is too much far fetched, and im sure Cave and Caroline had some moments between them but I still can't quite make the connection on Chell being their daughter all things considered. We know GLaDOS also kinda lost her memory not knowing she was Caroline untill she was re-introduced to Cave's voice, but I would expect from her to remember her daughter when she did remember who she really was. I hope all of this can be explained in later instalments.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
The way you've phrased that, I guess it just wouldn't make sense haha. If it were in some way, it would be pretty fun for GLaDOS to mock her own daughter for not knowing who her parents are! haha
@platonicpicnic
@platonicpicnic Год назад
I am currently plan on writing my final essay for one of my courses on the environmental storytelling of Portal 2 (specifically). I just wanted to say your work is amazing and insightful. You're awesome.
@suicidalbanananana
@suicidalbanananana 2 года назад
Cave & Caroline being Chell's parents is always a fun one, if you make a video about this please make sure to humor similar theories too (like, why not Ratman & Caroline? or some other people we dont actually know (yet)? or hell, why not some link to certain Black Mesa employees? Kleiner & Caroline? Cave & Mossman? why would Chell's parents be redacted from the spreadsheet if it was Cave & Caroline? Why would Glados hate Chell if it was Carolines daughter? etc etc etc, would make for a interesting video!)
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
I'm absolutely screenshotting this comment for when I potentially do this video :D
@edoardoconti7162
@edoardoconti7162 2 года назад
now THAT is what i call great content
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Thank you Cave. I offer you a lemon.
@josephleebob3828
@josephleebob3828 2 года назад
@dom_thebestyt dom they found out how to necromance the dead
@bitbreaker_creator
@bitbreaker_creator 2 года назад
@@Skyrionn time to burn your house Down with that lemon
@MaxwellVrooman
@MaxwellVrooman Год назад
Cave Johnson was a dumb ass like seriously he was sitting on millions of dollars of scientific achievements and did nothing with it even when his company was crashing into the ground
@ObligedUniform
@ObligedUniform 2 года назад
"Chariots chariots"-- Cave (PRIME)
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Chariots Chariots Chariots
@CaptainSomethin
@CaptainSomethin Год назад
portal and half life are the only games I can think of that are so drastically different gameplay wise but the stories are intertwined in a way. I love this gaming universe
@alanfitzgerald9026
@alanfitzgerald9026 2 года назад
"Here is some advice from the lab boys in case you get covered in the repulsion gel. *Pages flipping sound... Do not get covered in the repulsion gel. We haven't nailed down what element it is, but it's a lively one, and it does not like the human skeleton"
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Classic Cave.
@JawadAlsmady
@JawadAlsmady 10 месяцев назад
It was so sad to know that cave is living forever, after playing "Aperture desk job"! 23:50 I totally agree that he's one of the best fictional characters right there! Portal was so well written that it still has the potential to make another sequel to this day even after more than a decade! Great videos keep it going!!!
@swankDaboobin
@swankDaboobin 2 года назад
The fact that you update your info is baller moves. Keep it up. Fantastic video
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Appreciate it! Always trying to keep on top of the content
@vnegar4045
@vnegar4045 Год назад
Love the video, man. From how old this game is it is hard to find an original lore video, especially one made so recent. Well done.
@lordmeowsk
@lordmeowsk 2 года назад
I learnt the phrase "When life gives you lemons make lemonade" from Cave Johnson.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
A wise man to learn from.
@TrinityCore60
@TrinityCore60 9 месяцев назад
For the algorithm! I’ve been binging your videos lately, and I’ve got to say, you are VERY good at this. Love it!
@bigtub1101
@bigtub1101 Год назад
When I heard the thing about the army of mantis men, I was like whaat!! One of my favorite books, Grasshopper Jungle by Andrew Smith (and the sequel, Exile from Eden) is about a science company who does some weird testing and there's a bunker that people have to hide in because people started turning into 8 ft tall praying mantises! Wow! Also a wonderfully crafted video
@gesh5849
@gesh5849 2 года назад
Your work is much appreciated my dude!
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
That's kind. I love putting these together and I'm glad that you like them
@Redneck_Hero
@Redneck_Hero 2 года назад
It kind of sounded like Cave Johnson's VA almost laughed when talking about building a combustible lemon at the end lol
@gamingseizure
@gamingseizure Год назад
Cave's lemon rants are on par with Markipliers rants saying that he's not a masochist
@HavingFunTimes
@HavingFunTimes 2 года назад
This video is amazing!!!! great writing with awesome b roll! sharing this with my friends
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Thank you! Too kind. I loved putting this one together.
@toxenzz
@toxenzz 2 года назад
Absolutely stellar video on Cave Johnson, thank you so much for this amazing analysis
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Too kind! I appreciate that! There's more to come. I think GLaDOS will be the next Portal video
@crazywaffle4453
@crazywaffle4453 2 года назад
Only 23,000 views? You were right the algorithm is shit. This is such a good video!
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Algorithm is working against me currently. Maybe it'll be kind soon!
@SteveAdmin
@SteveAdmin 2 года назад
Wait so they are seperate universes? Thats a shame. I thought Desk Job was canon, meaning Cave is still alive.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
It's could be viewed in two ways I guess. It's nice to think that Cave did survive for a bit longer in another universe!
@davisdf3064
@davisdf3064 2 года назад
Well, kinda, the momment that Aperture got access to other universes everything became canon. Anything is possible after all.
@16-bits87
@16-bits87 2 года назад
they are in the same universe, you can read that in the desk job description
@DeepfriedChips
@DeepfriedChips 2 года назад
Most portal related short games are tiny bite sized non-canon jokes usually
@SteveAdmin
@SteveAdmin 2 года назад
@@davisdf3064 I want Cave. THE REAL CAVE JOHNSON
@truckjumperdude
@truckjumperdude Год назад
20:49 I don't know why, but hearing Blaperture Mesa made me laugh so hard.
@tall_prince
@tall_prince 2 года назад
I'm so glad you talked about the multiverse, I never even heard of the money-verse! Great video as usual, keep up the work!
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Thanks! Will do! I appreciate you watching!
@rawrthedinosawr9659
@rawrthedinosawr9659 2 года назад
I feel like it's plausible that a Cave Johnson from another universe started the combine
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
I agree with this completely.
@jamesbryant8087
@jamesbryant8087 Год назад
By God, it's so crazy it just might be canon.
@SerpentNight
@SerpentNight 2 года назад
Its ironic when you think about it that it was his portal technology that created a series of events leading to the resonance cascade and the Combine takeover and now that technology might save the planet.
@MarcosAlexandre-no3qx
@MarcosAlexandre-no3qx 2 года назад
nope, yeah they both were researching teletransport, but black mesa was testing with dimensional teleportation if i'm not wrong, to the point they found the xen crystal. if they had theorized about another dimensions i won't doubt that black mesa would caused the resonance cascade, the thing is the only way for them to not cause the end of the world is them losing to aperture with the governement fund or cave buying them as he did in a universe
@evdestroy5304
@evdestroy5304 2 года назад
It was Black Mesa's fault the Combine invaded, not Aperture's
@SerpentNight
@SerpentNight 2 года назад
@@evdestroy5304 Could be, or it could be that Black Mesa's inter dimensional teleportation was developed out of Aperture's localized teleportation. Who knows.
@evdestroy5304
@evdestroy5304 2 года назад
@@SerpentNight They were entirely seperate, this is pretty well known
@arthurwiebusch9292
@arthurwiebusch9292 2 года назад
Love your content bro, it really helps me to relax, always watch before bed with my dog :) keep it up, I always watch your videos about half life!
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
I've heard that quite a bit. I have video essays planned for the future so I hope they'll suit you even better! Anything to please a doggo!
@cavejohnson4842
@cavejohnson4842 2 года назад
All right, I've been thinking when life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade! Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons! What am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down- with the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns down your house down! - Me
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Full of wisdom Cave.
@Fragmentsinfractals488
@Fragmentsinfractals488 2 года назад
"Burning People! He says what we're all thinking!"
@albertojuan4856
@albertojuan4856 Год назад
8:07 is basically Valve nowadays. Interesting.
@crowatacomputer428
@crowatacomputer428 2 года назад
the moral of the story: don't develop high tech shower curtains
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
A very strong point
@SouIlIl
@SouIlIl 2 года назад
Thanks for making videos, always interesting.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Thanks for watching! I appreciate it
@MINISCULE2
@MINISCULE2 2 года назад
The fact that this also contains Aperture Desk Job lore is realy impressive
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
To be honest. This whole video was an excuse to explore Aperture Desk Job and go behind the scenes.
@MINISCULE2
@MINISCULE2 2 года назад
@@Skyrionn Then why didnt you just make it normally?
@shinyshark2247
@shinyshark2247 2 года назад
@@MINISCULE2 he is joking.
@cmclaren7
@cmclaren7 Год назад
This game is excellent on so many levels. Thank you for this piece on Cave Johnson. If you haven't done so already, please take on The Talos Principle.
@OldJerzyDevil
@OldJerzyDevil 2 года назад
Love the video! I had completely forgotten about his multiverse adventures, damn! Never really got far into Portal 2, but I have heard and seen videos. Much in the same way, the ending of Alex (as I understand.) may lead back to Cave making a triumpant return... If a certain company can stop dancing the Two Step!
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it
@andrijamitic3434
@andrijamitic3434 2 года назад
I don't think the shower curtains had anything special about them, but were invented by Cave in Valve's universe. Cave sold them in 1943, while in the real world shower curtains were invented in 1953 by a man named Janus Wittrup
@NovaBoi7
@NovaBoi7 Год назад
Turns out the curtains were very damn strong
@JackSmith-fv5iw
@JackSmith-fv5iw Год назад
After being in a portal mood for awhile I decided to listen to his lemon rant again, and now I’m actually working on a combustible lemon and have all the instructions down
@joezephyr
@joezephyr Год назад
Fabulous thank you!
@mattcy6591
@mattcy6591 Год назад
Cave and Aperture is an allegory for Gabe and Valve. Actual valves and apertures function similarly. And Gabe starting in games, moving to technology, becoming a billionaire and now focusing on BCI and eventually downloading brains. Aperture also constantly tests prototypes and never gets around to completing/releasing them.
@mattcy6591
@mattcy6591 Год назад
Oh I guess we can retcon a bit more: teleportation technology is like how VR transports you into a different world. Aperture and Black mesa are rivals in developing teleportation technology. Valve and Facebook/meta rivalry and valves frustration at Meta dominating the VR market.
@HgFin
@HgFin 2 года назад
Always love to hear about portal lore
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
There's more to come :)
@andyfriederichsen
@andyfriederichsen 2 года назад
That pre-Combine coast at the start of the video looks amazing.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
It's stunning! There's so many pre-combine maps on the G-Mod workshop
@RoleyVideos
@RoleyVideos 2 года назад
It must have took ages putting this video together. Well done.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
It took a while but I'm so happy with how it turned out
@rayn7904
@rayn7904 Год назад
The lemon monologue is my ring tone. I thought someone was calling me but the realized it was the video 😂
@das_mp5
@das_mp5 6 месяцев назад
“Well that’s a corner cutting machine, we obliviously cut them there.”
@rosykindbunny1313
@rosykindbunny1313 Год назад
The funny thing is, this isn't the first time J.K. Simmons has voiced a scientist who has something to do with portals, with an assistant that goes (somewhat) insane.
@FackYouTube
@FackYouTube Год назад
Wait really? What are you referring too?
@rosykindbunny1313
@rosykindbunny1313 Год назад
@@FackRU-vid Ford from Gravity Falls
@FackYouTube
@FackYouTube Год назад
@@rosykindbunny1313 ohhhhhhhhhh ╰⁠(⁠^⁠3⁠^⁠)⁠╯
@muggrootbeer
@muggrootbeer 2 года назад
This and all other Valve games is the only game where I sit down and watch the lore videos / icebergs. Partly because the games are interesting and mind-blowing.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
I'm glad I can provide them for you!
@muggrootbeer
@muggrootbeer 2 года назад
@@Skyrionn :)
@adambarbosa4179
@adambarbosa4179 2 года назад
rly love ur vids man
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Thank you! I really appreciate that ☺
@DeezNuts-yq6qf
@DeezNuts-yq6qf Год назад
Aperture kinda reminds me of Valve. Doing great in there earlier years but slowed down as the years went on after being on top.
@thomasmundy9398
@thomasmundy9398 2 года назад
Great info!
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
I hope you enjoyed it!
@giftedfox4748
@giftedfox4748 Год назад
Nice video, well done on all the information that most people wouldn't have known. However, just a personal thought of just me, I would have enjoyed it better if you did played some of the audio of Cave Johnson recordings and/or statements when you did mention them. Reason for that is because it has been awhile since I played those games and I felt like your statements about Cave recordings would have hit harder by hearing him arguing about Lemons.
@NovaJR9
@NovaJR9 Год назад
Underrated channel
@doufmech4323
@doufmech4323 2 года назад
Great video
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Thank ye! I really appreciate you watching
@plushworldfriends9521
@plushworldfriends9521 2 года назад
In another universe cave saves humanity!
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
I guess he had to in one...
@TOBAPNW_
@TOBAPNW_ Год назад
I for one would love to see a video done about Cave and Caroline's potential relationship!
@K_J_Coleman_Composer
@K_J_Coleman_Composer 10 месяцев назад
Good video! I've never heard a word about the CaveVerse. That's hilarious, someone needs to tell me where I can find that stuff
@TheCasualWendigo
@TheCasualWendigo 2 года назад
I don't think that C-AI-ve Johnson (see what I did there?) happens in a multiverse. I think Cave was put into an actual AI shell, we just don't see him in either of the current portal games.
@GarbajeCan
@GarbajeCan 2 года назад
There was scraped content in portal 2, one of these was cave Johnson having his contitiousness in a cube plugged in the wall, youd have to unplug and use him to get out of a hole, it kills him
@davisdf3064
@davisdf3064 2 года назад
Someone theorized that Cave became the Animal King giant turret
@Katie-xd1nt
@Katie-xd1nt 2 года назад
Caves an AI in the latest steam deck demo
@ApertureLabs
@ApertureLabs 2 года назад
The timeline of Aperture Desk job directly conflicts with the timeline of Aperture that was set in the Portal 2 universe, and Erik Wolpaw, the writer of Portal, Portal 2, and Aperture Desk Job, has said that side-projects like desk job are non canon, and that only the mainline games are canon when he was specifically asked if desk job was canon. So at best it's a different universe.
@Katie-xd1nt
@Katie-xd1nt 2 года назад
@@ApertureLabs nah its canon.
@StoneBaller1
@StoneBaller1 2 года назад
uh, fine. I've seen like thousand johnson lores. 1 more won't hurt, especialy fresh one
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
I hope you enjoyed it
@Zemboy01
@Zemboy01 2 года назад
Awesome video
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Thank you. That's too kind!
@drawamations3689
@drawamations3689 2 года назад
This could be the ultimate portal lore! The lore behind...... ......Chell
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
YES
@agdgdgwngo
@agdgdgwngo 2 года назад
I've always liked the name Cave, I'm guessing it's because Aperture science was Cave's cave.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Maybe.. it's a good name
@ignacionevarez3254
@ignacionevarez3254 6 месяцев назад
It would be great if you explored more about the theory that Cave Johnson was based on Steve Jobs, including the topic of wanting to immortalize himself in AI and the regret of not having explored that technology in time.
@mks5345
@mks5345 Год назад
Thanks very much!
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Год назад
No worries!
@chickendrawsdogs3343
@chickendrawsdogs3343 Год назад
I wouldn't be surprised if some of Cave's work become instrumental in Gordon and friends' effort to bring down the Combine.
@onqr
@onqr 2 года назад
wow this is really good!
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Thank you! That's too kind!
@LKLM138
@LKLM138 2 года назад
great video.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Thank ye :)
@AngryTrafficCone
@AngryTrafficCone 2 года назад
chain: when life gives you lemons, make life take the lemons back
@adelite
@adelite 2 года назад
GET MAD!
@speedskeleton250
@speedskeleton250 2 года назад
'I don't want your damn lemons, what am i supposed to do with these?'
@AngryTrafficCone
@AngryTrafficCone 2 года назад
I DEMAND TO SEE LIFE'S MANAGER!
@InventorZahran
@InventorZahran 2 года назад
Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson LEMONS!
@galwhoroams
@galwhoroams 2 года назад
DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!
@definitlyblack7600
@definitlyblack7600 2 года назад
“Brought all the greatest minds together to make shower curtains” I refuse to believe that you didnt burst out laughing.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
I may have laughed a little.
@A-Z-U-R-E
@A-Z-U-R-E Год назад
I just now realized that cave Johnson was voiced by J.K Simmons XD that’s awesome
@voxlvalyx
@voxlvalyx 2 года назад
Aperture Fixtures We sell shower curtains because we can For the good of all of us Except the ones who take baths
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Maybe in one universe they developed bath mats :)
@tobios89p13
@tobios89p13 2 года назад
Nice Video
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 2 года назад
Thank ye!
@TacticaLLR
@TacticaLLR 10 месяцев назад
I love this character so much
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