Knights of the Old Republic has the scale and grandeur we need. Especially if it covers the Mandalorian War and Revan and Malak's fall to the dark side first.
Yes please! Delve into the lore of dark and light with a massive star war playing out in the background.... no brainer. Hopefully not like Rings of Power ha.
I wouldn’t mind them covering these events with Revan but I would prefer they do something 100-200 years after KTOR so it would be more of an empty canvas. I just think that no matter what, people would be dissatisfied with their portrayal of Revan, even if they did a good job….
That comes from all the CG work needed. First efforts, reviews, revisions, and approvals. And then all over again when someone in the upper production chain decides they want a different look, or a change in the film editing. Marvel (under Victoria Alonso) became notorious among the CG effects companies for wanting multiple different full renderings to chose from, all before the deadline, and then still wanting revisions (with multiple options) also in full render and all before the deadiine. The experienced workers stopped doing anything for Marvel because they didn't want to deal with the excessive stress, leaving it to the rookies instead (and we see how that turned out with projects like Ant-Man: Quantamania and She-Hulk). By rumor, Lucasfilm is almost as bad. They just tend to have fewer projects going at the same time.
I know you're trying to be funny, but they're totally different situations. If Kennedy is there for three more years yet she'll find the people (writer) to make the film happen. If she's not around there's a good chance her replacement lets the project die. It's that simple.
On that particular issue, it's the overuse/misuse of the Volume that is the problem. There are benefits to the Volume (like giving a group of actors a common off-camera reference point to look at for a scene), but scenes filmed in it still come across feeling confined even when it gives the imagery of an open space. The space for the actors to perform is limited (especially when they add physical props and staging), and that comes across no matter how well someone plans camera angles and edits the footage. There is something intangible about those scenes that reaches the viewer, and it does not work to the benefit of what are supposed to be open spaces.
Potatoes, potatoes! Boil 'em, mash 'em, put 'em in a stew! I would say Coruscant did kind of have an epic feel in Ahsoka. That arial fight over Kalevala did seem masterful. A couple of bright spots in s3, I guess. All though Coruscant in Andor was the Chef's Kiss.
I also doubt the movie exists. I saw the leaked trailer which was removed immediately. It looked weirdly AI or Unreal Engine-like. Pedro Pascal was filming the sequel to Gladiator recently. He couldn´t be on two sets at the same time. I don´t buy the claims they used the stunt double for a full-lenght movie because a stunt man is not an actor. Acting is not just about talking, it is about acting with the body language too. It was obvious the stunt double was in the armor too often for -Mando S3- Bo-Karen S1 because the subtle body language of a real actor was missing. To replace the actor with the stunt man only makes sense if the movie is not about Mando but about Bo-Tox again, and Mando is just a cameo for promotion. Which is exactly what Darth Felonious would do. Pedro is a legit badass who doesn´t even need a stunt double for the fighting scenes, so the excuses how it was too physically demandidng for him to play Mando, so Bo-Tox had to be shoehorned, are ridiculous. He has the skills and he is still in a great shape. And if something was too hard there are stunt doubles. There is zero reason to replace him with the most wooden plank of wood who has ever wooded when it comes to both acting and fight scenes. When I saw some featurete for Gladiator 2 I was like "If only this was Mando with the darksaber going through the enemies like a knife through butter!"
Lucasfilm's biggest mistake concerning the audience is that they dismiss them,as a group that has a short attention span and a limited capacity to appreciate good dialogue,character based storytelling and merging it with the action that comes with their ip..Meanwhile,a show about the Gotham City crime scene is ANOTHER one of many projects from HBO,hitting on all 4 cylinders with critics and audiences alike,the very same audience that is heavy into Star Wars..Need proof??Just lookup Andor/what has Luthen sacrificed? scene.❤
Andor is epic. Unfortunately, the viewer numbers weren't that high, so Lucasfilm probably took the wrong lessons from that. Andor s1 did end with more viewers on the finale, meaning it was slowly building an audience. Seems there might be a lot of pent up demand that will explode out of the gate when s2 drops. We'll see how things develop from here. Lucasfilm's general lack of quality these days could catch up to it. They're positioning Mando & Grogu as their next big event movie, but everything we've seen from it so far looks like a cheap cash-in TBH. Filoni's big upcoming movie will be dependent on people watching the shows (Skeleton Crew, Ahsoka s2, etc), so it could face problems if the shows underperform. Hate to say it, but I'm predicting both these movies bomb, or at least barely break even.
@@achaudhari101 I hope I'm wrong about this and the movies are good. But yeah, a lot can change depending on how compelling the trailer is. My concerns about Mando & Grogu are the generic title, generic concept art, and what seems to be them rushing it into production. But we'll see.
@@jimdaniels7531 I mean as far as the title goes, if Marvel can do it with Deadpool and Wolverine, maybe Star Wars can as well, but like you said, we shall see.
I think the critic/fan reception of The Mandalorian and Grogu will be such a bit litmus test to see where the studio is when it comes to Star Wars. I honestly hope it's good, and I imagine everyone else does. I'm not holding out a lot of hope though. I've got a feeling it'll just feel like a glorified episode of the TV show.
Star Wars really need to get it together. I agree HBO is doing some massively good shows now I want to add HBO to my streaming services. I like the slow drama and what a show build up to epic ending. I agree about Andor. I think Disney needs to wakeup and smell the Caff. They need to give people complex shows and not dumb down shows and content.
While I agree that Ahsoka should have been more epic (I think its budget didn't match its ambition), it was still probably the most "epic" thing we've gotten from disney SW outside of Andor and R1. I didn't even get much of an epic feel from the ST, especially 9
Hey Thor... Here's a question to ponder. Do you think that "content" trends, whether it's streaming TV or even RU-vid, is changing to a longer, slower burn, way of doing things? I've noticed that slow burn shows like Andor, or Penguin, are doing really well as opposed to the shows that are faster paced with less substance. A perfect example is a recent trend of RU-vidrs doing 3 and 4 hour compilation videos that seem to be doing really well and receiving lots of views. It also seems to be more popular with binge-watchers as well, lately. Do you think TV shows are headed this direction, and do you think Star Wars should adopt this slow-burn style a bit more?
Well, I disagree that SW hasn't tried to be more serious and deep. They've certainly tried at times but the writers simply haven't been good enough to execute it. Having 30 minute episodes certainly doesn't help as well
On the one hand you have shows that want to build entire new worlds, and tell stories within them. On the other hand you have shows that want to re-tell minor parts of old stories, or worse ... subvert your expectations
Subverting expectations as a general concept is not a bad thing. It's the combination of what you are subverting, how you are doing it, and why you are doing it that make it good or bad.
@@JoRoq1 Intent matters as well; a lot of interviews with creatives who are doing this openly admit to being motivated by spite, as much as or more than they're motivated to produce a well-told story.
I doubt the Mando movie is even real. When was it exactly filmed? Where are some leaked photos from the sets or promo stuff? The leaked trailer looked so AI-generated and/or made in Unreal Engine I still think it´s some bizarre testing of waters to find out if making of that movie could be profitable. Pedro has been filming Gladiator 2 and whatever else recently, so it is obvious even if the movie exists it is not about Mando. It will be Bo-Karen: The Terr0rist Did Nuthing Wrong: The Movie. Mando and Grogu will be used for the trailers and promo pictures but it will be about the villain who keeps failing upwards. The excuses the role of Mando became too hard for Pedro Pascal, so he was replaced by Bo-Tox, was obivously made up because he is totally k!lling it in Gladiator 2 promo featuretes and trailers. He is still in a great shape and he actually can use a sword. He doesn´t need a stunt double. This makes the whole bait-and-switch for Bo-Tox even more absurd because they had the actor who is a legit badass for the role but sidelined him to shoehorn a plank of wood who can´t act or fight her way out of a paperbag. I wasn´t interested in Gladiator 2 that much but I might see it just to witness what Pedro can do in action scenes and what Hissney robbed the fans of when they decided to ruin Mando S3 and turn it into Bo-Karen S1.
I feel like the executives at Lucasfilm truly don't think that Star Wars has ever had any depth or ever been more than fun, action, lightsabers, and special effects.
I don't understand why they've written it so that Bo Katan can walk around all the time without a helmet, but the show's star (and best actor) is written as having to keep it on all the time. It seems so arbitrary (both are Mandalorians, why make it different!) and it makes very little sense for good storytelling. I really hope this is changed for the feature film. There should be several scenes where Pedro gets to fully act in the movie.
Part of it was to demonstrate the competing factions within Mandalorian society. After the civil strife with Death Watch, Maul's coup, the takeover by the Empire, and the destruction of Mandalore, it is feasible for a faction to appear that held to an extreme view of Mandalorian culture. In this case, a group that eschewed individual identity for a hardline collective identity symbolized by the helmets.
Because Darth Felonious j***s 0ff to his pet villainous Mary Sue who gets a special treatment and the plot bends around her to always give her what she wants. Meanwhile no character who is not his pet Mary Sue is allowed to outshine her in anything. -Mando S3- Bo-Karen S1 makes no sense because it was deliberately butchered when Darth Felonious was promoted and usurped the show and its spin-offs for himself. It contradicts all the previous plot points, character development, and even basic rules of storytelling because it is not a part of the same story. It is the soy cowboy´s fanfic. In S1 it was established the only Mandos who survived are the helmeted clan living in secrecy bordering on paranoia. Then Darth Felonoius shoehorned Bo-Karen into S2 because she is one of his pet Mary Sues. Favreau and everyone with at least semi-working moral compass saw her as the scheming villain she is, so she was written this way. Then the armorer also called out some of her 🐮💩 in Book of Boba. It all very clearly foreshadowed a conflict between Mando and his followers and Bo-Karen who wants the darksaber + her goons or hired mercs for S3. This was thrown away when Darth Felonious gained power over SW. I highly doubt Bo-Karen was even originally supposed to be in the show because Paz Viszla could work as Mando´s rival well enough and S1 was about new characters only. I bet 🤠 came up with something like "What if Booo appeared in S2?" and Favreau didn´t smell the betrayal yet, so he agreed because why not. Paz doesn´t have to be the rival. It can be a new character or Bo-Tox and her followers. Bo-Karen S1 contradicts the "secrecy is survival" and the whole galaxy believing the only Mandos are the helmeted ones. Bo-Tox and her goons are running around with zero opsec and piling up ships on a developped planet with dense population. But somehow noone knows about them, only about the helmeted ones who live in secrecy. But somehow everyone also knows who Bo-Karen is. LOL! :D
I doubt it. But he is physically in the sequel to Gladiator and he is still a legit badass, which makes the absurd sidelining of Mando in his own story just to shoehorn Bo-Karen into his rightful place even more frustrating. Only 🤠 can push away a good actor who also can fight with a sword and replace him with a plank who can´t act or fight her way out of a paperbag which already has holes in it.
@@achaudhari101 S3's primary problem was that it had to cover for all the Mandoverse production planning that got upended. - Bringing Grogu back early to try to salvage BOBF. - Cancelling the Rangers series, which is where the Coruscant and Captain Teva storylines would have been. - Cramming all that together and still trying to hit the same planned endpoint in the same limited production time so other projects (Skeleton Crew, etc.) could progress with minimal modification. Then they compounded that with bad celebrity cameos (Christopher Lloyd was good as he knows how to not dominate a scene, but Jack Black and Lizzo were terrible), rushed writing, and executive meddling. I give it a lot of grace for the production circumstances, but S3 was plain bad. It was too much, too fast, and not given the breathing room it needed to provide good story and character development.
I find it odd that when SW does do the whole slow investment thing like what HBO does, people complain that it’s word salad jargon mixed with boredom and they want action. I find it hypocritical on the SW fandom to think they want an unrealistic middle ground like that.
