The Mangulam Inscriptions 

It is believed Newzealand was once connected to Tamilnadu and part of lost Tamil Kingdom called Kumari Kandam.

Yes, but the Tamil inscription in the bell is written in Grantha or more latter scripts used for Tamil, not in Tamil Brahmi. So that bell is more probably a medieval era artefact.

​@@Nt-nc9ps Or tamils are travellors

@@Nt-nc9pspseudoscience alert😂

@@antiwokehuman "believed"

Yes britishers kept the name brahmi. But now since we have evidence the name should be changed to Tamizhi.

Rigveda written in Brahmi has been dated back to 20th century BCE as it mentions the river Saraswati which dried up in 1500 BCE therefore *Brahmi still stays older than Tamil Brahmi.*

​@@Hitmansharma_pullshot why are you mixing myths with history 😂

@@NaliniS-y2v *Rigveda* is a not a myth but an evident document found in 11th century Gupta rule; it was dated by scientists to be from 1500 BCE but more research revealed it's even older.

@@NaliniS-y2v bunked history classes?

We called it thamili with a same pronounciation I don't know where the name brami came

​@@MSdfangirlMay be, the Aryan migrants incert the word for all aboriginal languages of Indian States

It was originally a script known as Brahmi before discovering its variant for Tamil language. That's why there is this appellation of "Tamil Brahmi". Why Tamilians are to such extant brainwashed with gross and academically uncompatible theories of Dravidianism or Tamil supremacism ?

Dinosaurs also Dravidans

​@@ThiruMSwamy😂 aryan migrants Bro it's not proven yet

@@Dreamer-i1z sanskrit and tamil belong to two different language family. How can they came from same language? Have I said Pali is older than Tamil or sanskrit. I said inscriptions of ashokan brahmi. Tamil inscriptions seeming to be older than ashokan brahmi as well from keezhadi. But in north oldest sanskrit inscription is newer than Pali. But Vedic sanskrit did exist before pali as an oral language.

@@Dreamer-i1z I said Pali and sanskrit didn't said Pali then sanskrit. Both these languages were spoken at some point on vedic culture. Tamil is completely different but both influenced each other.

The amount of destruction the northerner endured at the hands of the invaders leaves no place for speculation about what existed at one point of time, which could not survive the ravages to finally discovered by us today.

yes it's proved after Kezladi excavation, both Indus and kezladi script's are 80% the same

YES, and there are talks to change the name from Brahmi to Tamili. since they are the ones who founded and used the script first and probably taught the mauryans how to use it.

😅 rey sanskrit oldest language

​@@asura2000 Hey do u know Thamizh history Thamizh cultural

@@speakandthink4601 yeah they're tribe's present tamil people not original tamils they mixed with andhra in pallava rule, originally tamils r black with high teeths so don't claim ur self as tamil

@@speakandthink4601 yeah tamils r from kumari kandam present Tamilnadu belongs to andhra, tamil is one of the oldest language we found that's it, in future we will find telugu Or sanskrit

​@@asura2000 Either Sanskrit or Tamil will be one because Kumari Kundum is a hypothesis and Saraswati river mentioned in Rigveda flowed 10,000 years ago

This is a big news. Call archeological survey authority of your government.

Those kinds of scripts are allover sri lanka.. most of them beign early sinhalese.. the pakrit elu or ashoka brahmi.. there are no dravidian inscriptions like that in sri lanka..

there are more than 70000 ancient inscriptions in Sri lankan not a new thing.. Lord Buddha also born in Sri Lanka.. British ruined our whole history.. there is no brahmi text or such thing. magadhi language.. spread from the sri lanka.. we have so many ancient palm manuscripts.. ahh so many Rawan's inscriptions also found...

Sinhala brahmi with Sinhala parkit

@@kalpadesilva438 I think if you check you will find the Buddha was born in India. BtW, I know Sri Lanka very well and you blaming the Brits for the economic and environmental disaster the Sri LanKan people have created since Independence is total nonsence. The Singapore President visiting Lanka shortly after independence expressed his wish the Brits had left Singapore in such good financial health, infrastructure etc and hoped his country could become as prosperous and administratively stable Sri Lanka. The Singapore people did prosper and created a magnificent nation state. Sri Lanka did the exact opposite, taking a magnicent country and turned it Into an environmental and economic disastor. We can blame the Brits and their bloody Empire for a lot but the horrible mess the people of Sri Lanka have created for themselves is solely of their own making.

Why's that

​@@anaesthete5592Coz CG don't want Tamil to prove it's evidence

​@anaesthete5592 because that would give supprtt to the theory that there was more than one dominant civilisation in India. They decided that everything came from sanskrit. If you close your mind you'll look for no further evidence. Why does ASI not dedicate more resources to keeladi?

​@@agentK1896Because they are simply scared

True, once Jain's was at it peak in whole india Jainism is older than anything

Without warrior class Religion cant sustain Both Buddhism and Jainsism against to warrior class

@@Agnostic7773 the concept of king is originated in Jainism

@@Agnostic7773 do you know, who were jain kings??, no right!!!! Then dont write non-sense, Pandya, hoysala, chedi, ganga, amoghavarsha, mahameghavahaa kharavela, samprati and many more were born jains Even chandragupta later became jain Do you even know how powerful they were😂😂 Ahimsa is the main principle of jain dharm but is only limited to jain munis, Jain shravaks like me only follow vegetarianism, like others we can also blow anyone who troubles is (virodhi hinsa) is also main principle of jain dharm

@@esotericwanderer6473 Dont confuse Jains rejected varna system or not ?

Brahmi term available much earlier in dhamlipi. Buddu

@@aniruddhbahuguna5462 so what's the time period for the "brahmi"s presence as first, before Ashoka's script or after?

@@suriyakumarp Hold it book and read it According to a popular Jain legend, Rishabhanatha is believed to have taught eighteen writing scripts to Brahmi, one of which came to be known as the Brahmi script.

@@aniruddhbahuguna5462 that's a new information for me. Thanks for the same. As per recent research, Ashoka's script was termed as Dhamma Lipi rather than the Brahmi.

@@suriyakumarp No dude Radhakumud Mukherjee first pointed word Dhamalipi and he even justified why It should it call brahmi.

Superior is not your religion but the most civilized Tamil rulers who were so broad minded to welcome and provide shelter to Aryan Jain monks...

@@rohannova8268 they are itself jain so they have to example hoysala dynasty ganga dynasty and even some rulers of cholas and pandyas even workship jain gods so pls there is no sense pf your comment 🙏

Every indian religion is supreme Respect every religion. Not only own religion

@@rohannova8268 lol, there were many original jain kings like:- pandya, chedi, ganda, hoysala, mahamegavahana kharavela, samprati mourya and later maurya dynasty. jain dharm is thousands of years older than brahmanism

@@esotericwanderer6473 Pandya seriously, I'm from a Pandya clan man, I'm not a Jain, how shamelessly you can say that Pandya kingdom is part of Jain, Pandyas are Shatriyas not a lower caste as Jain you are Vaishyas, understand that.

both tamilnad and kerala was called tamilakam and spoke the same language. which explains why the tamizhi script is used to write tamil. they are the ones who found it and taught the mauryans.

Other languages are also in Nepal

​@@Sudhirkumar-xv8cy even Latin is from Nepali

see let me explain u in detail brahmi ,usually they refer is the asokan brahmi and there is a script which different in grammar and syllabel but somewhat similar to brahmi ,and more close to cureent tamil interms of grammar,syllabus,structure,writing so they called it as tamil brahmi before once believed brahmi is older than tamil brahmi.. but now... many proofs had given tamil brahmi is older than brahmi..from which brahmi is evolved eg: only ka in tamil no extra syllabel from ka ... for our convience can ka,kha,ga ,gha.. we use this sound but had no letter for this.. so... from ka.. ka kha ga gha letters evolved so conclusion tamil brahmi is older than brahmi from tamilbrahmi is current version is tamil brahmi or asokan brahmi current version is prakrit by mix of tamil brahmi and asokan brahmi evolved southern brahmi(which pallavas improved it) so southern brahmi now become telugu and kannanda.. by mix of percentage of words from tamil brahmi... is current tamil and malayalam.. at some point malayalam mixed with sanskrit thats it tamil brahmi(old tamil) brahmi,asokan brahmi prakrit dont ask about sanskrit pls... because sanskrit is of hotha script which is of modern day iran and syria in india ,the oldest sanskrit script we have is of 100 AD not older than that...

@@RU-vidBank-bp5js Thank you.But what is the connection btn Grammer and a script? A script should be capable of bringing the sounds and speech forms specific to that language in to writing. (Tamil script is OK for Tamil but becomes inadequate to write sanskrit)

@@gangadharhiremath7306 Grammar and script is evidence to proof,that this script belongs to that particular language For example Language have some characteristic feature Like In sanskrit and indo european language ,words usually use prefix words and not suffix words Similary some other group of language use infix words Tamil and dravidian language use suffix words Tamil brahmi uses suffix words If it is non known..indian aracheo some group claimed it as north indian family of languages like pali.. After find outing this difference only we came to know this is tamil Or else... They will disguise it as pali.. Important to note. Whenever ,for tamil ,we have to show proper proof,evidence to claim that it is ours.. Even for that ,they wont accept the fact But on other hand..sanskrit and other north langugae.. Without any evidence they claim it as theirs.. But govt accepts these.. and printing in ncert book This is somewhat... Blind games or cheat play played towards tamil language from the period of post british era... But how hard they try... Truth speaks with hard core facts.. Example For tamil to claim oldest language we need to show proof..even after proof they wont accept But for sanskrit to be old.. no proof Oldest sanskrit manuscript is about 100 AD... Not more than that.. And they usually claim 1500bc which is not in current sanskrit script..rather in hotha script which is syria,syriac origin(iran)etc.. And.. horse mentioned in rigveda hymns ,those burials are found in syria.. If sanskrit is 1500 bc old,then accept sanskrit is from out of india( non indian) Or if sanskrit is indian( then it is only 100 AD only) They some group will Come nd bark..before that we used oral language.. Then we can also claim we also used oral langugae + At the time of sanskrit is in oral format Tamil is in its grammatical peak in written format How script is connected with grammar. Now lets talk about it In jain caves tamil brahmi is wriiten along with prakrit For example- writing RAM( in tamil) by grammar we write it as (iiram) According to tamil grammar Words in tamil wont start with ra but always start with iiraa.. I think u got the point.. Similarly.. Another tamil brahmi script which we got that is older than asokan brahmi script Uses the word aaa-gol This word is not even used in sangam literature also.. It is pure form of tamil word Mentioned in tamil grammar book (tholkaapiyam) So we easilg found that this tamil brahmi,we found is tamil) And it is pure non mix tamil Written by pot makers at that time Where people around tamilakam dont have any script for their languages

​@@RU-vidBank-bp5js noy agree The words of ancient sanskrit can be found in iranian texts which is 800 year older than the evidences of tamil script

​@@Dreamer-i1z and it is 100% possible brahmi script is from aramaic which is a foreign script.. so no this is not a tamil born script but a borrowed one which evolvetp become the modern tamil script.. same with devanagari and most of the indic scripts..

Dhammili pi we called it tamili. some one create name brami for it for changing history😕

britishers kept this name when they found ashoka's inscription. but recent evidence has shows that tamil is written way before in this script and they have called it thamizhi.

Hi. This was written by tamils. And they called the script as tamizhi. They are the ones who taught mauryans how to write.

No Vedic it's Jain saints

Lol

Why do you people have so much ego?

@@amodmishra3030 it's not ego It's truth Speaking truth is very important to spread knowledge

@@investmentmentortamil Do you know where homo spaiens originated? Modern humans arose around 3 lakh years ago. Look, I agree that Tamil is a beautiful language and one of the oldest language in the world but you can't name it as oldest ever! Anyways, proof of oldest written language is of Sumerian language. Let's wait for more excavation for Tamil to dethrone that. Bro, there is a difference between spoken and written language.

@investmentmentortamil Indha bandha dhaan namla alikutha podhu Tamil pazhamaiyana mozhi dhaan But adhoda 33 older languages iruku first being sumerian and egyptian. Example ku indha tamil brahmi 300 bce, egypt la first pyramid 2480 bce la build pannanga

bro the ashoka inscription is way after this. so that's not possible.

Bro you dropped this 🧠

@anograham9827 no one agrees this are origin of Tamil scripts.

coz its a variant of brahmi .

​@@sohamshinde7978 you are wrong. Actually in 18th and 19th century they thought it was a variant of ashoka's bhrami but later in 20 and 21th century they found graffiti in keezhadi and palani with old tamil script and this concluded that tamil script tamizhi is older than ashoka's because their was no evidence found in north india how that perfect script was evolved but in south india particularly in madurai their are alot of pot with graffiti, caves script etc to show the evidence for the evolving for a complete script.

@@chithambararajanr219 the keeladi one which is dated to 6th century bce hasnt been proved by evidence . No detail of its strata is given so this remains a question . For grafitti i would say harappan people came from Indus valley to south india . If keeladi dating proof is given then it could be 6th century bce .

@@sohamshinde7978 lol, Keezhadi excavation remains were carbon dated at beta analytic center USA. Don't spread fails statement you pro-ariyan outfit buddy.

MUST GIVE SPACE TO BARBARIANS OUR OWN HALF BASTARDS WON,T LET,LIVE TO SEE IT..UNFORTUNATELY IT,S A MONEY EARNER..IF NOT ALL WILL BE IN RUMBLES LIKE LORD RAM IN AYOTAYA..

Tamil had a own script before Jainism came into being...thats called #Thamizhi

@@xavier9476 Tamil grammar writer was Jain .. Jain gave script to Tamils

@@Agnostic7773 Which script was given by the Jains? because Tamil language has so many scripts system. Thamizhi script Thamil brahmi Vattezhutthu Pallava script Grandha Kolezhuththu Modern tamil....

@@xavier9476 When you created this Dhamizhi or Thamizhi script ? Sounds like Ashokan Dhammi script !! Tamil Brahmi script introduced by Jain saints Even Tamil Grammar created by Jain saint Thiruvallavar A language only need one script to get progress and to wide spread knowledge Why you have different scripts with only minimal knowledge that too only useless poems and songs Not anything on science !!

@@Agnostic7773 One point is correct thiruvalluvar is jain monk... but how did you know thiruvalluvar 😱

Exactly..

no one is claiming that.

@@sohamshinde7978 yes he is in the video

@@rallyworld3417 oh yeah he first said variant of tamil brahmi and then says it maybe older than ashokan brahmi , contradicted his own statement .

Nope, in 18th and 19th century they thought that it was a variant of ashoka bhrami but later they found it is older than ashoka's because in madurai and surrounding you can find the earlier structure of scripts like graffiti in pots, caves etc which were belongs to 6BC to 9th 9BC.

TAMILLI..WHAT,S THAT BRAMAY..?

no

Samanam is a tamil word of Jainism 😅

@@Wackadoodle but you said it was not jainism but rather it is samanam so thatswhy i said no .

@@sohamshinde7978 sorry my reply was for Naren Selva who initiated this conversation.

@@Wackadoodle nope. It's a completely different religion. Even I thought the same

lol there is no language named pali.. english people made this language.. only magadhi language..

@@kalpadesilva438 pali & prakritik language... Check ancient history book... Ncert Rs sharma book will be good ... I dont trust RU-vidr for information...i always relay on books.. I think u should check once then comment here... More specifically check for jain and buddist text ...

Tamil is also spoken by Ancient North Indians, your ancestors spoke Tamil. Sadly today you people speak Hindi.

​@@vat513that was not tamil That was mother of tamil and sankrit

​@@exmuslimhumaid786wait,did u write RS sharma and ncert Lmao 😂 We can not debate with legends like u

Vedic sanskrit is derived from other languages.

@@Dreamer-i1z Sanskrit means refined one. Refined from what? Obviously it is an artificial language developed from other languages.

What's the use of learning a dirty language like Hindi?

No learning that over cooked language

Learn Tamil