The Many Problematic Relationships of Pretty Little Liars *a deep dive* 

I can't believe you also watch Friendly Space Ninja and Dylan is in Trouble! Collab when?

If I’m correct Samara told Emily she went to a prep school which would make her a teenager.

I connected nordvpn to Canada and still can't see PLL 😭

@@terryberry38 Was it a prep school or a college? And either way she was manipulative af and completely played her.

@@sweeety969 prep school. And honestly Emily played herself.

To be fair, Aria's parents aren't much better. You'd think that if they were truly concerned with their daughter being perved on and groomed by a teacher, they wouldn't react by berating and slut-shaming her. You're right, they had every reason to be angry at Ezra, but their blatant victim-blaming honestly made me hate them even worse when I stumbled across the post-AriaxEzra reveal episodes by accident.

@@MrBookworm01 I completely agree and don't forget how Arias DAD also dated one of his students and that didn't have any consequences either.

@@marymunoz8774 That too. And if I recall, he was just an all-around asshole to Aria

@@MrBookworm01 I haven’t watched the show in a long time but I agree they shouldn’t have victim shamed her but they should have actually done something like have him arrested instead of just telling Aria to never see him again

@@crystalsnow5046 Agreed. And then gotten Aria into counselling so she could finally realize how messed up what Ezra did to her was.

i always wished they would've made him a villian,, but it would've upset fans and the pll writers nvr wanted to do anything that upset fans 😭

Yeah Idk if it was Ian trying to prove who Ezra was or if it was directed that way but it had me shaking in my boots

I find Ezra creepy regardless…

realistically wasn’t ezra a villain

IT WAS SO FUN WHEN THEY THOUGHY HE Was a

What the fuck ??? They pulled advertising for that and there was no one to talk about it, PLL just get worst everytime I learn something about the show/behind the show.

Drop the name i can fight

@Sara Moustamandi you're ignoring the fact that sasha lied about her age to get the part and so at the time that scence was filmed they didn't know she was 12

@@borithban6454 What age did they think she was?

@@borithban6454 so what? Mina Kunis did the same But the problem is not that that lying They knew exactly that she was Lying because they had to make sure her credentials are right starting with the name and that's now they would find out her birth year

Omg fr I loved Aria and Noel in the books 😍 Hated how they made him such a creep in the show!

Honestly this makes me so happy 🥲

exactly

That should've been the case on the show

Aria should have ended up with Jake instead of Ezra

Precisely, I couldn't believe that they had Emily start dating Paige after Paige had tried to drown her. It just never felt believable to me.

@@trinaq 10000 percent

everyday i am reminded of how maya was and always will be a gem for emily. she was so much better for emily than paige and ali.

Yeah they rly left no good options for Emily when Maya died although I did like that blonde girl from H2O and the blonde girl in the last season but Paige?? 🤮 and Alison? EW

I like Alison and Emily together 🌚🌝

same

me with ohshc

me and my adoptive mom ended up bonding together watching pll. much as the plot was convoluted, i fell in love with mona and toby and hanna. it was kinda worth it.

@@randompromises1038 Aw!

Yes, I think it's fine for some shows to be "problematic" as long as those problems are within a certain range and it's made clear it's for entertainment value only

YES OMG

RIGHT. What a straight up loser

that was really messed up, I'd rather have him as A.

Ikr, like he just couldn't make sh!t up... He had to groom one of Ali's friends and stalk her for the book.

Right, I kinda hated that they wrote that bc at LEAST in the beginning it seemed like he didn't know she was underage until he was already "in love" with her, but finding out he pursued her all along and for the sake of book research at that made it so much worse

and the fact she only used that to defend herself meaning she did not care for it until she needed the attention deprived off of her.

@@gissellehehe4289 honestly the way aria's parents were written to blame aria for bring groomed and calling her a slut, they seem more shitty by comparison which is a seriously bad way to write about an issue like pedophilia. aria was a child and ezra was a grown man and literally dated a middle schooler. also the way the teens all look close in age to the adults really doesn't help the situation. if aria had a little bit of chubbiness in her cheeks and a prepubescent voice and was CLEARLY a child and not someone in their twenties then the shit would've been uncomfortable and not romantic in the slightest. i get that laws are placed for children to not work strenuous hours but they literally hired alison's actress who was 12 when she took the job (albeit lied about her age at the time of the audition but a background check by the producers would've easily revealed her actual age) AND had the actor have romantic interaction with shay mitchell's character (emily) who was a fully grown adult on set. not to mention in the later season they hired actual teenagers to be, like, their own version of alison's posse and they blatantly looked like teenagers. i'm just saying, not all teenagers look like grown adults by their junior year. hell, i matured really fast and i'm sixteen and get mistaken for fourteen because of my average height and high-pitched voice and acne.

@@randompromises1038 I never got the feeling that Aria’s parents blamed Aria for being groomed. They seemed pretty clear on the fact that Ezra, the adult in the relationship, was the problem.

@@tcc17301 byron kinda called aria a slut. ella was more on aria's side and angry at ezra more but it was mostly byron who was really stupid.

@@randompromises1038 when did he imply that. I remember him wanting to call the cops. Yes he told her to change her clothes, which was definitely an emotional over correction. But I don’t remember anything else. Not trying to say you’re wrong I just haven’t rewatched that season in awhile so I might be forgetting some scenes.

Likewise, the power of being young can make you immune to iffy, problematic aspects.

@@trinaq we must have the same subscriptions because I see you quite often. Lol

And pigs

I did noticed immediately BUT kept watching

It still has a high entertainment value and let's not forget there's a lot of unrealistic things done in the show that are solely there to spice up the show, not a reflection of real life

Yeah I guess they placed it in high school because that seems to be the more popular age range for these kinds of shows AND because that way they have to sneak around and tell more lies, which is part of the show's entertainment value

Please it really would! But they wanted the "mean girls, highschool girls are mean" angle too much

Alison was already doing a lot of "grown up" stuff and she was only 15 😩

Too bad he didn't stay in jail

they're arguably the most problematic couple though

He should’ve gone to jail like-

When I realized that Ezra knew Aria was underage from the beginning but still decided to groom her and stalk her and her friends for completing his book I wanted to push him off a cliff

Why didn't they add that to the show 😭😭😭

He came to town, not only to find out what happened to her, but also so he could WRITE A BOOK ABOUT IT!! This is also a repeated offence of his cuz he did the *exact same thing* when his age appropriate girlfriend got *kidnapped* overseas!!!

alsooo they got a happy ever after at the end with him marrying aria, with no repercussions

@@miraaaa2223 It was the *GRAND FINALE* of the ENTIRE show!!! 🤦🏾‍♀️

ugh my point exactly

I hate how super normal they tried to make it seem, like when the girl's partner's were all wearing sexy santa costumes and the writers were like yeah it's super normal for a teacher to be here half naked in front of his other half naked students.

still to this day i can’t stand paige

@@NerdyWhatup same she is so annoying.

worst couple in PLL tbh

@@Dash120z what abt ezra and aria-

@@shreyabaset2651 should have ended as soon as it started

They could've just written about adults and it would've been entertaining either way. I've heard about relationship between employers not being allowed in America, they could've done that with Ezra and Aria.

I don’t think that was even the only problem. Real adults have responsibilities, bills to pay, jobs to do. The liars just always seemed to have free time for the sole purpose of being harassed by a mystery stalker and trying to figure out who that is. They never showed to have any set schedules for things, even Spencer who was supposed to be the golden student. The show just never had any sense of reality in general, which tied into its inability to keep up with storylines and build an actual mystery. It’s just that NOTHING MADE SENSE most of the time after season 2. Yeah, it’s a show and it’s gonna bend reality no matter what, and since its for entertainment maybe it doesn’t really matter if it’s believable or not, but some things just get ridiculous after a certain point. That being said tho, i still totally LOVE the concept of the dollhouse. Completely unrealistic for somebody to build all that in a bunker without anybody noticing, and then kidnap 5 girls being transported to prison, but the episodes were cool.

by the time season 4 premiered all the actresses already looked old enough to be in college and they were still in high school.

the perfect solution would’ve been to have the first two seasons take place in high school and then later season at college

omg yes spencer and toby and emily and maya were so cute together

I liked Alex the best, the only one with common sense

wasnt he also too old?

@@sethuzothe6372 yeah but aria didn't really have many age appropriate choices 😭😭

jason came back as jesus

please Aria should have ended up with Noel just like in the books..

I wish she ended up with Noel like she did in the books. I’m so mad that they made him creepy and a bad guy in the show because he was an age appropriate love interest for her!

thanks for this correction!

@@basicgorl Thanks for hearing my POV! Your channel popped up in my recommended. Glad it did. :-)

Yess! Amazing points

I think a lot of people gloss over Wilden and Ali because I’m not sure if Ali confirmed it… it was introduced as a theory and then dropped so I didn’t even know that like it was 100% true

@@anonymousbread7672 That's fair, though it wasn't just a theory. They showed a flashback to Ali being in Cape May with Cece talking about her pregnancy scare and she wrote about it being an older boy in her journal, aka Beach Hottie, so from a narrative standpoint it's canon. She was with "Beach Hottie" that summer, who turned out to be Wilden. The proof of him being involved was the photo Emily and Hanna found at the police station. They never went back to say otherwise, so I took it to be narratively true. Then again, this show wasn't great when it came to explaining things.

most high school shows are not tenager age. Look at Riverdale that slow walk with cheryl. No teenager looks like that

Hanna was drinking at school and had bottles falling out of her locker. And Caleb was cutting school and sleeping in the middle of the day. It was BAD. It was early season 5

The way I don’t remember that

@@kaledoublescope try season 5. It was horrifying how the rest of the group were her friends but never thought to think “Well Hanna has been looking REALLL Sluggish lately && she smells like A hint of Bourbon, (show reference 😼) Maybe it’s jus A trying to frame one of us, cause that’s the ONLY main problems in OUR lives rn *Blissful Laughter* . I get yu have a psycho stalker trying to ruin y’all lives && probably kill yu but Hanna could’ve killed herself with the amount she was drinking . Yu would think she would die from overdose. That would’ve been a great plot twist actually if she wasn’t a fan favourite

@@kaledoublescope sorry it’s a lil long 💀💀💀

@@kadyg8041 REALLY BAD. && what even worse (AND KINDA BAD WRITING) no ONE noticed could yu realllly be that dense, it really irritated me

Went through the exact same thing. Exact same. And I really detest this show for feeding into that. I look back on my freshmen year with a bit of disgust because of the way that show let me think I could get with a teacher withought it being wrong.

yeah, I first watched this show when i was 14 and also liked it (in degrassi and PLL), but now it is really messed up. I am in my early 20s, but I view teenagers like babies now lol

THIS!!! like you shouldn’t be surprised

@@basicgorl exactly! Like make it make sense 😂

this supports my theory that the writers only added this in to take away aria's blame

@@randompromises1038 that's probably what happened. They couldn't possibly have one their main characters cast in a bad light. Nah shift the blame elsewhere.

@@rahbeeuh which takes too much intrigue away from aria. it would be interesting to talk about whether she has any sort of blame because she deliberately lied about her age and flirted with an adult. it would be interesting to talk about how teenage girls like to appear mature because it makes them feel more respected. but nope, had to just make ezra horrible and her parents useless. should add that i don't think the situation is aria's fault. she got dealt a really shitty hands by the writers. tbh she's my least favorite due to the fact she contributes to literally nothing.

100% even when i was like 11 i thought he was so cute

True he did everything right and still got left in the dust for Caleb. Caleb belonged with Spencer in so many ways

I loved Travis too. Hanna deserved better than Caleb. His ass shouldn't have come back after season one, let alone again after Ravenswood.

Travis deserved so much better omg, Hannah's best love interest :(

Me to but so many kids were ok with their relationship bc the show made them seem like a good couple

Lucky. I thought it was weirdly hot, unfortunately

😂😂😂😂

@@lindaakoto1549 so so so many girls I knew in highschool thought that shit was okay. It really worried me.

YES??? I remember all of my friends literally LOVING their relationship and saying it was the best one on the show, we were like..... 12/13 yrs old. It was so weird to me back then and now is even more.

her parents too like they did not give a single shit

Literally. God how are you not trying to protect your baby sister from *grown* men

oh god..

That’s why she wasn’t in the show until season 4

@@smbbetter bruh the damage was already done wth did they tought this was gonna solve....

@@alinamorcov1332 yea Ik I was just adding that but it seems like she had consent tho

@@smbbetter yeah but that doesnt mean its okay...

She was so annoying😭

She was literally the one of the worst characters 😭 and I will stand by that.

Please and she was my favorite ✋😭. So problematic. I was continually disappointed in her

notice how most of the problematic relationships involved an adult and a minor, and between the two in those couples, Aria was the minor

Putting myself through s7 was torture

@@kaledoublescope s7 was a shit show

that makes sense! I see your point!

There seems to be a misunderstanding among the fandom that Samara was in college. She wasn't. Prep schools are high schools, and she came to Emily's school and Emily asked if she'd transferred there. I'm of the mind that she was in high school. Plus, I highly doubt uptight Pam Fields would let her daughter date someone in college. She bonded with the girl. Samara may have been older than Emily, but she was still in high school, canon-wise/writing-wise.

My main qualm with Samara isn't that she might have been a little older but that she was clearly manipulating Emily. Their whole relationship she was always tricking her into doing things she wasn't comfortable with because she wanted to bone her and it was gross and I hated that nobody called her out on it.

I hated her so so much, never understood why she’s been thete

@@mariakaufmann8024 I feel like if she was more consistent and had character development it’d be different but she just comes out randomly and is weird af about it so it doesn’t make any sense lmao

Me too! Maya was my favourite character and I wished she lived

@@sunettas9738 yeah and her and may was such a pure relationship compared to the others (and Emily was too good for addis*n) 🥺

Yess I’m still not over the writers killing her 😐

maya was fucking beautiful and so goddamn supportive of emily, she shouldn't have been killed off. she was amazing.

They were the best and Maya was so freaking funny

Like you know what I appreciate wren?? Age of consent laws.

What! They are?

oh god oh fuck

I was hyped but anything with Rivderdale needs to gtfo!

THEY'RE WHAT NOW

he's gonna be one of the people there, but there is also The Umbrella Academy writer in charge, which is good. but the story is absolutely different

This is the most fucked up comment. So because she added more weight she lost her allure. Wow, like people are so fatphobic

@@ayomidetejuoso3455 I didn't say I agree to any of it. But that's what it felt like to me back when I was watching it. They didn't give Ali the feel of a legend that she had before... The industry is fatphobic and we all know that.

@@naomikimbokimi9015 Totally agree. She was what? Thirteen? Somehow it was fine for to be this goddess like girl character but once she was a woman they just put her to a corner and totally ruined her character ? We shouldn't be surprised with the amount of underage relationships on the but still doesn't add up you know?

@@naomikimbokimi9015 the costume design dressed her like an old lady... the were awful to her and everything you said honestly couldn't have said it better myself

I’ve seen other people point this out before and ever since then i’ve been seriously side eyeing the people who had a big hand in character direction in this show (well, for that and many other reasons, you know what i mean, looking at you marlene king)

Fr I was obsessed with Diego boneta!!

i still really loved maya and emily together. it was so pure.

i agree with all of this but caleb and hanna were also great together, asides from his wack shit in the beginning, he really loved her and was so dedicated to her

I literally forgot than wren was fully grown oml

Idfk how but pretty little liars made this relationship seem normal 💀

@@DevilAndCat I was rooting for them for so long when I was younger untill I realised how actually disgusting it was.

@@Black_pearl_adrift right it took me so long. I had the same thing with family guy (brian and the girls)

@@Black_pearl_adrift SAMEEE I was rooting for them so much when I was like 12 and now Im rewatching it and their relationship is so gross. Idk how I never thought of it before

real parents would be extremely angry with the actual PEDOPHILE rather than their child. it gets to me that aria engaged with a lot of older men.

I agree, aria being a minor her brain isn’t fully formed, so she wouldn’t know how wrong it is, but Ezra knows dang well how wrong it is and is seen as a victim with aria like NO

Not “Aria and Ezra’s side”, you mean Aria’s side. Ezra is not on the same side as her, if he was he would’ve treated her her age and he wouldn’t have been a creepy predator who groomed her. He’s her enemy but he uses manipulation to make her believe he’s her biggest ally and the only one she can rely on.

@@-Theo- Yeah, that is more accurate. I think the issue at the time was that Byron was so much more of an overt asshole that Ezra's more subtle forms of abuse against Aria didn't seem as bad.

Aria and Jake were my favorite couple

For real! Jenna abuses Toby and their whole relationship was so effed up

Literally

exactly

It’s a toxic love hate relationship

Agreed! I always shipped Spencer and Hanna

Finally someone who hate Caleb, I don't get the hype around this dude.

Agreed that would have amazing if that happened tbh

Oof. I'm rewatching pll - I first started watching it when I was 12, up to 17 with the last season. I'm currently in S4 and I've always loved Caleb so much 😭 I don't remember what happens with him so now I'm scared I'm gonna star hating him

@@1cheness He had alot in common with spencer him and hanna not so much

We don't talk about him.

I loved them more before I rewatched it and realized how crappy he was when he became a cop. Also, I had a hard time with Keegan Allen’s acting for some reason. Still one of the better pairings though

Lmao que

they going to hell for this