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Thoughtful? He just listed a bunch of great Hollywood actors and said they ALL (he emphasises "all") wanted to be actors because of Marlon Brando. All of them. None of them NONE OF THEM had any other motivation. It was ALL just seeing Marlon Brando. It took me that long to realise he's an idiot. What's your excuse?
And extremely hard to work with. Fun fact: During shooting of the Incredible Hulk, Edward Made multiple changes to the script and would constantly badger the director to make the changes officially
@@nimbusflamel8844 from what I heard he wanted it to be darker and more grounded a la batman begins which i cant blame him for. I remember an interview w kate beckinsale, who has a high iq, who said she probably got less work because she would point out this or that part of the story or script didnt make sense. I think probably the same with Norton.
It seems like Brando is where being a film actor really departed from being a stage actor. In theatre reality is sacrificed for clarity but in film you can get away with more reality.
@@nickjklol Chaplin is a Vaudeville actor, as well as a silent film star for most of his career, so it’s hard to compare him to Talking pictures actors, since they have to perform completely different.
@@Cheesefist Every one of Chaplin's films from 1940 onwards were talkies. I wouldn't credit him with setting the paradigm for principle monologues, as Orson Welles is probably more appropriate, but he was one of the first to do it in The Great Dictator. Him and Brando even co-starred in a film together later on. I also made no comparisons - I'm strictly speaking on the matter of film becoming a nexus for a different version of acting, which arguably started with Charlie, which I'm open to conceding on. However, I won't concede that it started with Brando. That is an absolutely insane claim.
@@CrazyDiamond75 Not according to the people that have worked with him. Maybe he has become more gracious with age, but I think he takes his craft too seriously.
@@tjemmyhd3894 he takes his craft serious for sure but that’s not the problem. I’d be scared if my surgeon didn’t take his craft seriously.It’s that he takes himself too seriously his time for example on the hulk film, rewriting the script again and again, pushing for different shots, new arcs etc and then not backing down?! That’s a guy who ,at the time, for sure care deeply about his art form but also felt he knew best as he thought of himself in an elevated way. Take the craft seriously, not yourself.
To translate, most movie stars before Brando acted as if they where performing live theater, with overemphasized movements and actions, as a way for the audience in the back of the theater to understand a character. Brando revolutionized modern performing by taking a much more subtle approach, allowing the small movements to portray the character, living in the moment, rather than in the lines. Hope that helped in case anyone was lost
@@Ahmed-bm2jl It's not about "good acting": Cary Grant, Lawrence Olivier, Kirk Douglas, Clark Gable or Jimmy Stewart, to name a few, were great actors. Edward is comparing "stage acting" (everpresent in the golden age of Hollywood) with "modern acting" (popularized by Brando, Hoffman, De Niro, Pacino, etc). Doing "stage acting" is not "bad acting", but the more intimate style of modern acting is more efficient for the cinema medium.
@@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 No, what I meant is that not all actors/actresses before Brando did "stage acting". Brando wasn't the one who started modern acting, he just popularised it. That's what I meant, and sorry for calling "stage acting" bad, but honestly I think that's a fit description for it.
@@Ahmed-bm2jl more theatrical acting IS good acting in live theater. More subtle acting capitalizes on the medium of cinema. You can be more dramatic and voracious when the camera is far away, but when the camera gets up close, even the smallest movement of the jaw muscles speaks even louder
@@ActuallyJamesS Many good actors that can play weird parts don't know how to be normal people in real life, e.g. Jack Nicholson, Elizabeth Taylor, Johnny Depp. Many of them admit this too. If you don't see it, start studying human behavior and actors' real life stories!
@@johnrockyryan quite a lot of guys wanted to be with him too, and he was totally into that - so you saying "all the guys wanted to be him" is a cool admission.
true, even until his late 40s he was pretty darn good looking. It was really in the late 70s when he just completely stopped giving a damn and let himself go
You did a good job. Brando's father was said to have greeted his acting hopes with a remark like, "Who'd pay to see your ugly face..." Growing up with that kind of disregard can switch a person off being aware of what they look like, or the impact they have on others, no matter how beautiful they are.
What Brando brought to acting was imperfection. In Streetcar, mid-scene, Brando picks a piece of pillow fluff out of the air. The scene doesn't cut or stop. That fluff embeds the reality of the lines and of the narrative. And other actors would have ignored it. And in pristine Hollywood, such a defect wouldn't not have been tolerated and the scene would be shot again.
there was a story about brando i heard a while back, he was in an acting class and the assignment was to be a husband reading a newspaper on the couch, doorbell rings and it's a salesman and the wife goes to answer and from there they were supposed to improv. in every classmate's scene, the wife and husband are all cheery talking to one another and the salesman rings the doorbell, wife answers and the salesman barges into the house with his sales pitch and the conversation is flowing. marlon is playing the husband and in his scene he and the wife are barely talking, doorbell rings, wife goes to answer and salesman barges in as usual, marlon gets up and physically throws the guy out of the door and slams it, and the director's like 'whoa what was that all about?' and marlon just grumbles something like 'i don't know fuckin know that guy'
@@achannel7553 Marlon was not fond of being called a method actor. It's a common misconception tied to his close proximity to The Actor's Studio and Lee Strasburg. Marlon was, in fact, taught by Stella Adler. Adlers school is embedded in the use of the imagination. For example, the principle: Relaxation = Concentration = Imagination. "Method," acting heavily utilizes Emotional Recall, typically by way of various Sense Memory techniques. It was also mistranslated by Strasburg from its origins in the Russian theatre with Stanislavski. But nevermind all that as I dont even know the ins and outs in such regard.. Would take a dissertations worth from some very old cat, so to speak
@@doctornov7 Does the Director's Cut remove the stupid crap with Orlando Bloom, where he goes to Jerusalem literally to save his beloved wife from the fiery pits of hell, only to bang the first woman he sees when he gets there? Does it leave in that strange final scene where he and his new woman ride over the grave of his easily forgotten and replaced beloved wife? Because that had me spitting. That has me calling at least the original cut the worst piece of shite I've ever intentionally endured. But I've never seen the Director's Cut and my inquiry is genuine.
It would be difficult because he is being labeled as a republican transphobic by woke Hollywood, so he probably is seen as hazardous for the big actors' image.
@@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 I agree with a hell of a lot of his Joe's personal politics and beliefs but either way it's a damned shame that his show is kind of blacklisted because really the JRE is an incredible, free-form, no rules outlet for conversation rather than "pitch your product" conventional interviews.
@PissedPajamas he's not blacklisted he has an enormous following and famous ppl go on there all the time. he just doesn't live in LA anymore so actors can't drive to him
Brando,s childhood was turbulent where his alcoholic father deeply affected him as it should, so he had real pain which poured out the screen, big up for Montgomery Clift too
Brando always gave you the feeling of challenging you, threatening you, confronting you, at all times. He was in your face. Kinda psychotic in a way. Disturbingly unconcerned with your comfort level.
When you look at Brando's acting performance he was very charming, poetic, he mumbles, his sudden outburst that comes out of nowhere. I understand why he was so popular amongst actors. He is a workshop in itself.
@@paulwaltersheherfeministvl521 Paul, was your comment meant to be directed towards me, jamest1681? If it was, I don't have anything to do with this video about Marlon Brando. I am just a fan of Marlon Brando and I liked the video very much. Sorry if I misunderstood your comment.
Edward Norton is so intelligent and articulate when he speaks on the genius of Marlon Brando and how much his acting has influenced a generation of actors who have followed him. Ed Norton did such a great job of holding his own with both Brando and Robert De Niro in "The Score."
Thank you Edward. I really appreciate your sharing about Marlon, and my first awareness of him was sitting by myself in the living room and I was maybe under the age of 10 for sure watching The Wild Ones. It wasn't necessarily my kind of film, especially at that age, even though I loved film. I found myself mesmerized by Brando's acting even at such a young age. I was so into what he was doing that I became one with him. There was all of a sudden a particular fragrance that was intoxicating. That which I now experience as Spirit. There was a great spirit in Brando and that's what really made him as a great actor and a person that didn't pretend to be something he wasn't.
Brando was known for his naturalism, in voice snd manner, but he was surprisingly good at singing, dancing, and accents, the more artificial aspects of the art.
Marlon Brando is the greatest actor because of his unmatched acting range. From 1950-60 he played a paraplegic in THE MEN, Stanley Kowalski in A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE, a Mexican revolutionary in VIVA ZAPATA, Mark Anthony, a Hell's Angel in THE WILD ONE. Terry Malloy in ON THE WATERFRONT, Napoleon in DESIREE, sang and danced in GUYS AND DOLLS, a Japanese man in TEAHOUSE OF THE AUGUST MOON, a contrite nazi in YOUNG LIONS then directed ONE EYED JACKS.
@@infinitejay5659 Daniel Day Lewis is a representation of all the great actors that revolutionized acting in the past, and he himself, has not done that! If you're a fan of his, you also admire those that inspired him.
@@hectormanuel9793 All I said was that DDL's range is very impressive and shouldn't be overlooked. He was never the movie star Brando was and he didn't need to be. He is a star in his own regard for his dedication and pure talent and in his own passion for inhabiting characters. No actor since Brando has done what he (Brando) did, and there will likely never be anyone like him because he brought naturalism to the limelight - perhaps one the most revolutionary things in acting history.
Brando once did an interview with his father in which his father was going on about how he disliked the coarseness of society or something, and Brando is glaring at him with this barely contained hatred, this fury of 10,000 suns. He absolutely wanted to leap across the table and throttle his father in that moment. It seems pretty clear to me that Brando was an abused child when you consider how he was living in NY before he was discovered, he was basically a street person for a time. When you look at how he struggled his whole life with delaying gratification, which is very common among people who were abused as children. The clues are there.
I thought Brando’s turn in Last Tango in Paris was extraordinary. It was brave, shameless, raw and uncompromising and the most unglamorous performance a megastar could deliver.
I’m gonna have to check that movie out. I’ve heard of it but haven’t seen it. It came out the year I was born so it has to be good. An old classic just like me. 😉
I see the comments framing a lot of this in terms of stage vs film acting - but Brando's approach came from a new kind of stage acting that had come from Russia and was establishing itself in the US - his teacher Stella Adler and director Elia Kazan both came out of this, as did Strasberg and the Actor's Studio - Kazan and Brando played a huge role in popularizing this approach onscreen Before that, I think American acting was very influenced by the theatre in Great Britain - and also there was already this new thing going on that came with cinema, this idea of just "being" instead of "acting" - think of figures like Gary Cooper, Louise Brooks, Cary Grant, Robert Mitchum, Greta Garbo, Jimmy Stewart, Humphrey Bogart, Barbara Stanwyck This Stanislavski system from Russia/USSR, and the American Method that emerged from it were something different, though you can see areas of overlap - one distinctive aspect seemed to be a disparity between thought and speech, a kind of counterpoint - like a whole different story was playing out in the character's mind, separate from what they were saying - another is this very particular notion of "truth" - if the other approaches would "present" or "carry out" an action, for the Method it feels like it needs to be "induced" - to somehow actually arrange things to trigger the impulse, so then the action seems to happen organically, almost involuntarily, like a reflex
If you think of Robert De Niro, Al Pacino or even, Johnny Depp, what all of them have in common is that they're Brando's product. Furthermore, some people say that Tom Hardy is the new Marlon Brando of these time. But, you know what? there was one Brando in Hollywood.
To me Brando was authentic he refused to receive his Oscar because he thought Hollywood didn’t represent native Americans and other minorities in a positive way. I have always admired him for that.
@@helpIthinkmylegsaregone he started observation? He started simply recognizing people who exist? That makes no sense.. but I guess you probably think any empathy and care for others must be "propaganda" or some internet term. Touch grass.
James Gandolfini did a fantastic job of playing/looking like the classic tough guy mafioso but deep down he was this sensitive, emotionally damaged soul. Rip
@@lennonmahoney7302 Im not your friend. Im not your enemy. Im nothing to you, so what. Im in my dreams constantly no life no live, no joy to feel, im just a silent pain writing this. Get a grip on life, boy.
2:29 I think this is the reason he's so good as Marcus Aurelius in Julius Caesar. Not only does he look Roman, he has both the fury and that broken sensitivity as he mourns Caesar in the 'Cry Havoc' speech. Perfectly captures and embodies the rising fire that Aurelius speaks of. Such a shame he didn't do more Shakespeare!
Ironic that part of Brando's authenticity was generated by - for example in On The Waterfront- he read his lines off pieces of paper positioned above him. He was doing it all live. He had not memorized or rehearsed it to death. Just the opposite of all the major actors of the day.
lol that's kinda how I do presentations. I put up a slide then I talk about the slide. No practicing, no rehearsed lines. I've had a lot of compliments on my presentations because it feels more authentic when you don't know the exact words ahead of time, but this only works if you really understand the thing you are presenting. In Brando's case, the idea of method acting is to fully understand the character and then improvise. Don't write down that you will tilt your head one way or other; just do what feels correct at the moment.
From what I heard he detests tobacco, cigarettes atleast. He refused to smoke cigarettes as Worm in rounders like the director wanted. Hence the toothpick
It is interesting hearing someone talk about Brando at his peak, as I pretty much only caught the films near the end of his life; when he was out of shape, did not seem to care about the parts he played, and often getting paid vastly more for his bit part than the actors that carried the film
Same for me. When I think of Brando I think of how he was in films like apocalypse now. Idk what happened in his life but it seems like he was very distraught as he got older. He just seemed over it, like he didn’t want anything to do with this world anymore. Like I’ve read stories about him and how he was on set in some of his later performances and he just seemed indifferent to it at all like he didn’t wanna be there. Like something was always bothering him
All you need to know about Brando if you’re reading this is that he’s the greatest actor Male or Female in the history of motion pictures and that’s that
If you watch and study world cinema , A indian actor DILIP KUMAR did everything long before what Brando did in Hollywood. KUMAR was more intense, more natural even batter then Brando ..Kumar was much more superior in emotions in talent . Sadly he turned Hollywood down . Kumar is the greatest actor to have ever lived , much more greater then Brando .
Loved Brando in Sayonara, On The Waterfront…he had such a vulnerability. There’s another where he gets beaten up as an Army officer and has to recover and like in Streetcar, he conveys so strikingly the sense of loss, the crushing heartfelt experience that connects the audience to him.
I recently saw a video of a guy talking about the best acting he’s ever seen. He said that everyone else felt like they were stage acting and Brando practically created what we think of as film acting.
@@schmule460 As for Brando movies, here's an essential list: - A Streetcar Named Desire - On the Waterfront - The Godfather - Last Tango in Paris If you mean movies in general, I'm happy to give more recommendations!
@@doctornov7 I would take Last Tango off that list , he raped the female lead in that film and only got away with it due to being Brando and blaming it on his eccentricities
Fascinating seeing this now in my life. When I was younger, I tried to seriously study acting, getting accepted into a BFA Acting program. One of my first acting classes, I brought up how acting has evolved, but I couldn’t fully articulate it. The professor disagreed with me, I didn’t argue. This video explains it and why.
@@takejaylor3528 Nah, they're two handsome white guys with full lips, that's about where the similarities end. It's just cause their acting demeanour's alike you think they look the similar.
Having issues in childhood can motivate a tremendous amount of creativity as you try to deal with that psychological/moral issue. But once you've gotten creativity, that pain doesn't help, it gets in the way, and it makes your art one-sided. It's like comedians become funny due to anger, but once they're funny, anger gets in the way.
I love Joe and so often I see him hold onto a topic related to fighting or gym etiquette, something close to his wheel house where he dominates the conversation. But Norton had so much to say here, so many great insight and pure thoughts that have clearly been on his mind and reworked for years. And Joe tries to bring in Brando's lack of gym discipline with him being fat. I love Joe but now and then I love to see him humbled
I first saw Marlon in Don Juan de Marco. I was watching tv and saw intro titles. I knew Johnny Depp but only heard of the name of Brando having no idea how he looked. I decided to watch the movie even it was late at night and I was a girl. After a few minutes of erotic scene with Johnny I decided that this film is boring (lol) and wanted to turn off tv but at that second I saw fat old man and for some reason movie became intresting. I watched it with incredible pleasure and cried till sunrise feeling so happy for some reason! I completely forgot about big name of Marlon Brando. I could only think about that marvelous fat guy, believing that I had found very special talent that no one else knew. So it was funny when later turned out he was Marlon Brando. Yeah, boys and girls, fat old guy was version of Brando that made me his fan. That's what I call a true genious!
When i watched American History X, for the first time during my school days kept thinking about the Nortons character for long time, even though i was not from USA , but certainly his acting and the Character on hate crimes of America played was so real .
"Performing boosted his self-confidence as it was the only thing for which he received praise. He developed an idiosyncratic accent because, as a child, he thought having a Canadian accent did not sound "tough". He began to model his accent on that of Marlon Brando." /watch?v=Lur1humI6QQ
@@Fyloeu The term "manufactured" is weird when you're talking about actors in Hollywood. That said, Brando was a great actor for his time and Gosling is for his.
I think the concept of "undisciplined genius" is a vast category waiting to be defined and explored. I have always believed that anyone with an inclination for meticulousness can become very good in any given discipline; yet, that very focus on the meticulous closes many doors to be truly great.
Brando in Streetcar Named Desire is pretty much the prototype or a blueprint of a perfect actor/movie star. To be a great actor, you have to understand emotions and be able to express them the right way so the audience gets them. And understanding emotions and being OK with them is a largely feminine attribute, so basically, in order to be a truly great actor, you have to be slightly feminine and adopt this. But in order to still appeal to men as well, you still have to retain some usually male or masculine characteristics. Brando walked this tightrope perfect. He was everything an actor can aspire or hope to be, in terms of looks, charisma, ability, and appeal to audiences. Interesting thing is that Brando himself didn't like Kowalski in Streetcar as a character, he considered himself the opposite in terms of personality. But he knew exactly how to embody such a person so you wouldn't even guess it wasn't his nature. And that's a great actor. A game changer, all modern actors stand on his shoulders, no doubt about it.
I remember I was a kid watching something on tv ...maybe The Men it was I dont remember .I was so impressed he is so real you could feel his feeling .It was something incredible.
as a cinema historian i tend to disagree that before brando every actor performed as in theater, there were 2 actors who pre-brando changed the game: James cagney and Paul muni. Brando changed the game as far as giving performances a sense of angst wich was translated by him doing the opposite of what was required for each scene, for example he improvised the cab scene, the script specified for him to yell ag his brother and shoot the gun, instead, brando did the opposite wich surprised Rod steiger.
It's great that you mention Cagney or Muni. In every artistic movement, there is always someone getting all the credit for other precursors just before them. Exactly like the Nouvelle Vague who surfed on the Italian Neo realism wave. Cagney, like Muni or Michel Simon, certainly paved the way.
I love it when an expert you know! really IS an expert (aka one of the greatest actors of our time) talks about something you hadnt thought about yet. You can be assured that what he says has merit and you can build on that safely
