The Massive ship larger than any Super Star Destroyer 

I get a real tickle out of daydreaming up the kind of fleet tender and convoy escort craft, along with proper Aggressive Reconnaissance Craft that could plausibly conduct days-long missions and patrols in the broader orbit of their assigned fleet. A favorite is turning the ARC-170 into a modestly higher tonnage craft with a similar size profile (a little longer but most of the hull widening replaces the radiators and wings with more, stubbier fins) a respectable enough crew cabin and a little cargo bay/airlock to allow them to carry specialized equipment for long range missions or to simply have the space to actually retrieve survivors and sensitive items from wrecked ships or operational areas. Oh and the rear gun position becomes a better, more capable turret that can cover the entire rear and top half sightlines, giving the now slower ship a much better forward anti-fighter armament. Usually I just consider it to be a couple of potent and fast firing midweight laser cannon with a matching ion cannon so that the gunner has the ability to threaten a significant variety of craft and outright destroy the fighters their position is intended to ward off. The ARC-170 is kinda horrible at its stated role, and as a fighter it really lacks purpose. It's a solid competitor to the Y-Wing and B-Wing role, but it could be a really cool scout and patrol craft like the name on the box implies if only there were space for the crew to survive on a three-day mission. Oh my modifications widen the hull enough to allow a side-by-side cockpit with a pair of stations behind and just outboard of the pilot seats, to allow for again mission-specific crew such as command staff to coordinate flights of fighters without sending a whole capital ship, sensor specialists for recon or simple deep space patrols that can oversee larger areas with an appropriate equipment load, intelligence operatives maybe, or it could even function as a covert transport craft due to the unlikeliness of VIPs travelling by glorified guard post.

Logistics!!!! Yay

@@Omniseed Reading this was like an all-you-can-eat buffet for me

Have you ever heard of the CL-1201? It was a real life proposal for uh... just check it out.

Wierdo lol

Reminds me of Eli Vanto lol

That dude I saw on Space Engineer ( Super Freighter ): Hold my cargo.

All hail President Skroob ✊LOL

@@hellsfirefreedomtube6984 1,2,3,4,5? Found anything yet?

I laughed about 5 and a half times more than I should’ve at that

Sorry, but air can only be blown or sucked... What will it be, blow or suck? 😂

Food and fuel and stuff, certainly, but ammo? Its laser guns lol, they don't use "ammo," just directed energy. EDIT: YES, MFS, I KNOW BLASTERS "UsE gAs aS ThEiR AmMo HurRrr" but that's not my fuckin point, use your brains. My main point was to say that "ammo" is a useless term for star wars because the empire and NO major star wars military is using those ancient "slug throwers" en mass, and as such, ammo was nowhere near as huge of a problem as it is for our current militaries. Gas is VERY easily directly collected, compressed, and stored in massive amounts with a small amount of physical space and weight required. And as far as I'm aware, the bulk of the devastating effect of the blaster or turboLASER shot comes in the form of the energy put into the shot from batteries or generators or capacitors, etc etc, NOT the gas by itself. A gas is just a gas, useless withouth the massive amount of energy needed to ionize, direct, and keep the ionized gas togerher. On top of all that it must not be a problem, as I've personally never read, heard, or discussed a situation where a major battle or action was won or lost by anyone in Star Wars going "Oh no! Our laser gas ran out! We're out of ammo!" So short story long asf for your freaks, gas isn't a problem. Be "realistic," use your brains, I know you all have them somewhere in there

@@Salamandra40k . Torpedo's , Mines Etc . Pretty sure Laser weapons use some type of " Magazine " in some instances .

The Nostromo was certainly a Logistics ship . A Tug Towing a Refinery .

@@johncunningham4820 In the case of the empire's handheld weaponry, you mean...batteries, lol, they still use energy weapons. Mines and torpedos are a good one, I didnt think of those, but I've never seen a Star Destroyer using anything except its turbolasers, which definitely don't have "magazines"

@@Salamandra40k Star Wars energy weapons aren't actually lasers, or even "directed energy", outside of rare exceptions like the Death Star or the ball turrets on Republic Gunships. What they fire is superheated ionized gas, like what's harvested by Cloud City. THAT does run out, as well as the power packs of blasters, and needs to be replenished periodically.

I think the Falcon is the equivalent to a box truck that makes local deliveries.

@@JDSleeper Agreed, but that left the issue of how to feed a planetary metropolis or the vast shipyards above Kuat. You can't keep a shipyard operational if you have a guy in a pickup truck deliver all the parts. So this video cleared up an old question of mine.

@@l0rf i think it'd probably be doing a lot more work moving data and information - seeing as there doesn't seem to be great galactic "internet" or whatever and their equivalent to a usb seems to often be the size of a briefcase

I've wondered about the same, but I figured it was a more opposite system. (both have their flaws). Given the stupid number of people, govts, businesses etc, anything but big govt jobs would do better with a more diverse, smaller shipping size. They can know the territory, laws and how to avoid etc, plus a dispersed network is more stable. Granted, corruption, bad luck etc, but the law of averages favors dispersed vs central. You lose one giant transport....what was that container that got stuck in the suez? Much bigger impact. Granted, if you're getting 20 a day, not so much, but if you're blockaded....

@@blackc1479 But imagine the sheer quantity of goods a metropolis world requires. There's probably not a single inch of farmland on a world like Muunilinst, but billions of people that need to be fed and require water. You could probably not land the freighters fast enough if they were as small as the Falcon.

The WEG sourcebooks are an absolute gold mine, and a big part of what took me from someone who liked scifi including Star Wars, to a Star Wars superfan when I was younger.

Those are on the fringes with less intense need.

I know!😂

Wouldnt there have to be

Probably. Even in real life cargo ships are larger than military vessels

I would imagine that most of the freighters we see in movies and what not are designed to move smaller amounts of more specialist goods, we see several times colossal cargo ships which we can imagine are more common in transporting simple goods, but ships like the XS-Freighter moving stuff that was exotic like spice and and ornate blasters.

Pre-Empire it was the Trade Federation. They essentially got federalized after the Clone Wars and became another arm of the imperial machine. They probably just put the Lucrehulk fleet back to work.

There were many models of civilian super freighters and other large scale bulk transports - we probably dont see them because they would likely never enter atmosphere due to raw size, pricing, and other stuff and space traffic is dubious to pick appart/barely shown at all otherwise

I personally believe the Lancer, Victory, Dominator SD, and Tie Interceptor are the most useful classes of Imperial vessels, and I love the Executor as a command ship. I personally think the Tie Defender is good, but modifying the TIE Interceptor design to add shields and a bit more power output would be far more cost-effective on the scale the Empire needs. Replace the production of lesser fighters with Interceptor MK2's and Assault Gunboats, replace most light support craft with Lancers (when they would be better for the role), use Dominator lockdown to support Victory patrols in star systems, and Executors as the centerpiece of massive fleet actions.

Came here to vote "Professor Eck's", this is the superior pun and gets my vote. - "Eck's Wing"

I'm running a Star Wars RPG campaign using the West End Games system. I've downloaded all the modules as PDFs, and I'm looking forward to throwing Black Ice at my friends!😁

same is true for us civilians!

Just a few issues with that. First, it would be like strapping the current USS Enterprise's nuclear engine on the one from WW2. The technologies are almost alien to each other and the same would stand for your senario. The next big one is the age and generation of your colony ships engines. Yes, they would produce obscene amounts of power, but like IRL power plant tech each subsequent generation is going to be exponentially more powerful & more efficient than the prior ones. This means the newer smaller power plants will likely outperform them colony ship by a stupid margin. Finally there's the superstructure. Can a preftl even handle the stresses of ftl or space travel? Their size makes this even more pertinent. I think your better off delving into the "white elephant" aspect of such a find. Yeah, it would be an incredible resource, just as a mobile platform, but there would an endless glut of issues due to it's age & outdated tech. Btw something to think about for abandoned vessels. The vacuum of space does *not* prevent the degradation of abandoned objects. The extreme temperatures break down many metals & plastics. The metal in circuitry will react with the cold to grow "tin whiskers" that can easily short out a vessel. Besides, clunkers are more interesting settings

The Holonet was nationalized for use only by the Imperial military. Real time FTL communication, what Palpatine used to talk to Vader in ESB.

And where the Holonet did not extend the empire had Plexus droid vessels playing courier from system to system (WEG imperial sourcebook 1e 1989 p35) although watching the movies and tv shows created since then suggests that there is at least short range interstellar real-time communications small enough to fit in starfighters. While these super freighters are in the Black Ice adventure, The video suggests they are at least mentioned in the Imperial sourcebook. I am unable to find it. Can anyone point me to the citation?

and they strap engines to a huge deathstar and make it battle another, stationary deathstar, which was captured by a tactics wizard.

Laserdisk, DVD, or Neue Thesis? Or just read the novels?

@@DIEGhostfish I think Laserdisk is technically considered a higher quality home release format than DVD. There's also a Blu-Ray, but the English release of it was prohibitively expensive. I don't know which version Hi-Dive has, but that service is probably the most convenient way to watch the original series at the moment. Personally I like the art style of the classic series more than New Thesis, but I understand that some of the fights aren't the most visually interesting due to budgetary limitations. New Thesis isn't complete yet, so I'd still recommend the original series just for that reason. If you look hard enough, there's also an extremely high quality rip of the blu-ray you can find that uses the original fan subs from back before the show had an official translation (it took decades for an official translation), but it's a lot more convenient for most people to just use an officially sanctioned streaming service like Hi-Dive anyway.

@@Kevin_Anderson Remake lacks most of the charm for me due to original music. I remember that in original it took like five seasons to even mention any FTL mechanic and never show jump on screen. :D

@@antonisauren8998 I haven't watched the remake yet, but it's really funny to me how waifu-ified all the character designs are in it. I'm not a very big fan of CG in anime if it can be avoided, so it made me sad that the ships are all CG in the new one, but lackluster space battle animation is a valid criticism of the original imo (though being caught up on their flashiness misses the point), so I understand why someone would like the newer one more. I will also give New Thesis credit for the ship designs. They may be a bit over the top, but the designs of the unique ships (esp. Reinhard's and Yang's) in the original were so understated to the degree of being kinda lame. That's sad about the music, though. The original did a great job of selling the epicness of space.

Can't spare it.

I doubt they had just the one. Seeing as it could supply a fleet for a few weeks they might have had three or four on rotation, per fleet in the empire. Leaving you with many thosends or tens of thosends for their full armada across the galaxy when needed to keep the barbarians at the gates or to punish their citizens for rebellion.

Notice the notch at the front? That's for attaching cargo containers. The Falcon is a semi truck without a trailer. Because the trailers belong to the customers and you pick up and drop off at their spitulation. So the Falcon isn't a very low capacity freighter but it's actually a cargo hauler.

@@charlottewolery558 To add to this, the Falcon specifically had much of its interior cargo storage converted for other uses. It was more for comfort and smuggling, any cargo it carried was generally a cover.

@@LTButtstrong Well Yeah, an 'independent' YT 1400 owner would want to hedge their bets by becoming a private jet/yacht for hire when they couldn't find or arrange a cargo haul on the return trip. If you can't do bulk cargo, you can do high value cargo. If you can't do high value cargo you can do passengers. And most custom officials would be a little more understanding since they don't have the logistics to run all the background checks....within reason. Not like Han, but if you play closer to the rules.

That said, this thing reminds me of the Can-Hauler Super-freighters from Schlock Mercenary, a train of 900m wide cylinders whose form factor was designed for passing through wormhole gates. You could cram a decent battle-fleet into just one or two cans, and they usually carried dozens.

I seem to recl there was a flying death camp in a Boba fett comic