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For anyone talking about the "pulling the string off the fretboard for the squeal" part. Watch my new video about it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ttotdcaKKSA.html
Hi Mike! I've watched your videos about some TAB scores and how bad they are transcripted some times. Would you recommend using scores or better try to guess what they do by ear directly?
Anyone else remember these days just eating all kinds of jacked up? You wanted to assume it was legit but realized it was probably some guy being paid below minimum wage to crank all these books out? LOL
Dude. I was given this book when I was 16 years old. But I didn't figure out that any of it was incorrect! Wow, you've certainly enlightened me! The way you play the riffs certainly sounds heavier! But I did try that 'pull the string off the fretboard' trick more than once. Damn!
I have many of these boojs.played slot of guitar,early to late 90,s.I figured out,20 in 1995 the dive part.back then. And the g with the 3 open strinds,and d chords..I learned back then myself,it didn't sound right. I talked with 2 or 3 techs online early 2000s.they all said,they thought the author of those books,prob did slot of coke,writing the tabs.
You're mistaken. This is the tab book for Pastor of Muppets, a concept album by Metal Licker featuring such hit songs as "Welcome home (Sanitary Pads)," "Disposable Wipes" and "Onion."
what...you meen its perfekt or what...if so,i did not get it. there is all these open e along whit 7freet on a.string"also e" and the say to play it 16times in strait line
You’ve no idea how much these videos have made me feel better about my childhood guitar playing. Convinced I just couldn’t play guitar for years 😂. Thank you, dude 🙏!
I had all these books (MOP & AJFA) and I genuinely thought I was just a shit guitar player. Turns out I am a shit guitar player, just not as bad as those books made me feel when I couldn't get the songs to sound right.
Me too! I had the cunning stunts VHS, that helped me see that everything on these books was horrible, could not get the songs from the video anyways I had to have some help, I only knew something was wrong, then, I noticed they tuned to Eb... and the gates of the kingdom of guitar greatness opened up before my eyes!!! :)
Some days I'm happy ya know, life is good and my brain goes "hey daily reminder that the MOP Tab book made the bass solo in Orion labeled as a guitar solo" and I start to choke on pure cringe. I die thinking of that.
For so many years growing up, I believed that James and Kirk were out of this world being able to play what was stated in the tab books and being in awe that they must be amazing virtuosos.
@@anthonykargoglou7205 there is no such a thing as "ryhtm player", you are either playing the all thing or not. James is just a ok "guitar player" but amazing artist.
“I can’t picture Kirk doing this live.” Except he actually did something similar, on accident, earlier in the same solo. He’s been trying to recreate said accident every since.
You guys are referencing the wrong part he's talking about. Yes, there is a part where he pulls the string off the fretboard on the 19th fret and produces a high pitched sound. This isn't the part he's referencing. There's a part where he actually hits a pinch harmonic and jumps on the whammy bar, and the book says to pull the string off the fretboard,, all the way to the pickup, then hit the whammy. He did his homework.
I often get the feeling that all these old tabs were actually written out as sheet music, and then somehow (automatically?) transposed to tabs, which would explain some of the ridiculous stuff.
A lot of the guys back then used these little half speed machines and the pitch would change and then they would make an educated guess as to how it was recorded… it was a job with deadlines. And there were no RU-vid videos to reference, and thrash metal was a fairly new groundbreaking genre
@@poopsebeb yeah, i'd figured the guys writing these tabs wouldn't see nor remember how Metallica plays them, that 22 fret solo bit is possibly the fault of that
I love this whole series! Few questions: 1) Who transcribes these books? 2) Is the transcriber a guitar player? 3) Are the people who transcribe this stuff even able to play their own transcriptions? Would be interesting to interview person who transcribed this and just ask them wth were they thinking???
The "we sold our soul for rock n roll" is full of errors, wrong tunings, missing notes...NOTHING in there is accurate😂 They even have Sabbath Bloody Sabbath in the wrong key!
its so messed up when you consider that these books cost more than the albums, $25, $30, $40.. an they didnt even bother proofreading it. maybe every band does this but its not right. i always wondered what id ask metallica if i ever got to meet them, now im just gonna hand them my tab books and say "dont bother autographing it, keep it."
Oh man, I'm with you all the way!!! For decades I thought I had pure gold in my hands. MOP was my first tab book and everyone was jealous of me, and I could not play all the cool parts right, thinking I had no guitarplaying talent. But now, finally thanx to you (and Ben Eller), I find out I CAN play guitar!!! And I'm enjoying it at age ( almost ) 53. You're never too old to rock!!!
I'm almost starting to think that partly reason for some tabs showing the wrong location of a note is that it probaly was written as sheet music and then translated into tabulature instead of being tab first with the sheet doing the rythm value. Like the G5 chords that are written 300 instead of 355 usually screams that for me when looking at tabs.
Thank you for these! Learning these songs with the tab book way before the era of RU-vid made me think I was really terrible at guitar. The amount of material now available on the net is really awesome - no more frustrating insane tab books!
No idea how I got this video in my youtube recommendations, but I'm glad I did. I remember trying to learn some of these riffs from the very same book since my local library used to have it. I don't remember any specifics, but I do remember being extremely confused at all of major chords in place of regular power chords. IIRC, it was a repeated theme in even some of the Testament and Slayer tab books... SLAYER! I was just a kid back then and only just learning the instrument, so I was naive enough not to question the tabs in the books. I thought the makers knew better than I. I just remember being extremely confused at some of the chords like "wow, it doesn't sound like this on the record - I guess I must be hearing it wrong". Thanks for taking me down the memory lane, man! :)
i love these tab book videos. it looks to me that they were made by people that know musical theory but probably arent used to metal and normally doing notations for orchestra or vice versa transcribing classical music or whatever. i think for doing this just by ear its pretty close. their mind in the right place, theyre just not used to metal music. like when theyre trying to replicate a dive bomb without knowing it exists or the high orion bass part that would sound like a distorted guitar
The Master of Puppets pre-chorus is also wrong. I was playing it wrong for years thanks to this book. It took a minute to unlearn the years of muscle memory of playing it wrong.
The harmonic /pick up / dive bomb thing was a mistake Kirk made tracking the solo and loved it so they kept it in knowing that it couldn't be reproduced live. But yeah, I remember trying to learn MOP from this book and wondering why it sounded so shit🤣
Actually it’s misunderstood. The part he pulls off the fretboard was right before the harmonic whammy bar part. You can hear it as he’s doing his phrase.
@@TheArtofGuitar I just learned something. Always thought the part where he pulled the string off was the harmonic too. Dang I may have a chance of playing this now LOL
Oh, and also... the way they transcribed the chorus for Master of Puppets... I actually still to this day play a hybrid version of the way the book has it, and the way its actually played. Like the part where it shows a full D chord being played... I always kinda liked the way that sounded. But instead of the full D, I leave out the high F# and only play the chord through the D on the B string.
Leper messiah, the first song they had us play live in music school. I'm excited to see more of your channel. It hurt knowing these tab books were wrong growing up.
For every video in this series I have learned that I have been living a lie for almost 30 years. Unlike most people (it seems) I haven't realized that a lot of the stuff is wrong until NOW! It's honestly shocking a lot of times.
Yeah.... holy shit... the Master of Puppets tab book has everything played double and backwards.... like wtf... suprised he didn't mention the bridge to Puppets or the solo to Orion...
Wow, I am amazed that the tab books are this bad. I watched the Nevermind video as well. Once upon a time these books were the only thing available and highly regarded. This really puts it all in perspective and tells me I was right when I abandoned these tab books and decided to learn from other musicians and eventually from internet tabs in the late 90's. I think the problem stems from the fact that these books were written by contracted educated musicians that weren't interested in the bands and didn't listen to the material on a regular basis, they just rushed through it to make a buck on downtime between paying live gigs.
I've been waiting for this video. Now I know why I struggled to learn so many of these riffs when I got into guitar. I still have the tab book but I might go chuck it in the recycling now. Cheers!
I used to have the tab book for Def Leppard's "High 'n' Dry" and "Pyromania". They were close (especially "high 'n' dry") but they were also flat-out missing parts. I think they didn't even bother to transcribe the solos on a few songs.
I am feeling shit right now. I spended hundreds of hours 25 years ago when i was a child to play this master of puppets perfectly as it was in book and now you destroyed all my memories 😂
I remember having so many of these books as a kid and giving up on so many songs cause I couldn’t make it sound like the recording, and then as an adult just learning them by ear🤦♂️
Awesome, I remember learning Appetite For Destruction from the tabs, and being shocked by how differently Slash played all of it. Then I got the GnR live in Tokyo and meticulously watched his hands, and relearned the songs. The tablature and notation is never perfect, but it is very helpful. Just be prepared to read between the lines!
The major barre chords make a little more sense when you think about how the major 3rd is one of the stronger overtones in the series and and the album's very distorted tone brings that overtone out pretty clearly. It's not pronounced enough to hear it as a real note being played but technically it can be heard so it's not as crazy as it originally seems
Anyone who plays metallica should know that most chords are fifth rather than standard chords. So it helps a lot to know that there is a transcription error.
I think I like this series so much because it takes so much experience and talent to play something wrong perfectly out of a book just to show as an example. Extremely impressive.
I had this book when I was 14, still got it actually. Even then I knew a lot of stuff in the book was wrong and just odd. I just played it how I thought it was played and used the book as a guideline basically.
Thanks for setting the record straight Mike. Argh!!! Sucks that those were the only referrences we had in the 80's. I always knew that those TAB books were more misleading than helpful and not what original artists did.
The ABSOLUTE worst one was Alice Cooper’s Trash album book. I really wanted to learn the song Poison and I had zero knowledge other than tabs…those chords ..were just unreal 😂
It is books like those that make you quit playing sometimes... Back in the 2010s I had a book with many different songs and sometimes I would find a load of BS that would make my fingers cry in agony.
I recently got hold of this version after learning from the UK release. Even using both, slightly different, transcriptions, you don't get fully accurate tab.
I gave up learning to play a lot of them songs in the lid 90s because of that tab book. Wow. I'm gonna go back and learnt these songs now. Thanks for this video. I just thought James had some magic to the way he played it that i didn't.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually a Mustaine riff that they didn't credit him for. Over the years they've slowly changed their tune from "nope he has nothing to do with it" to "ok maybe he inspired it", while sounding nothing like anything they've wrote before or since.
Won't lie, some of the tabs i've read or attempted to play definitely made me scratch my head. Seeing this and seeing you perform the songs, makes me feel better that, I wasn't alone on the head scratching.
Haha! About Sanitarium. The part you showed. My book says the EXACT same thing. I had a gut feeling that something was not right. Thanks for clearing that up.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="179">2:59</a> I remember back in the day a transcription of "Shine" by Collective Soul in Guitar World magazine had a similar transcription during the solo. It said, "Let string pull off the fretboard." I thought it was total crap. I see now they meant to say, "Slide up the fretboard until your finger leaves it." Maybe that's what they were trying to say in the MoP book?
i have this exact tab book!!! at first i was impressed at how well set out the book is and then after a while i started finding so many holes and notes that are wrong
@@K1llerTunes Absolutely not! You couldn't be further from the truth. All of these tab books mentioned in this video series were made before Guitar Pro was even invented. The transcribers knew more about notation than tab back then. There are a few factors that make the end result so bad for these books. The first one being "time = money" which means that the company wants the product to be done as quickly as possible, which leads the transcribers to hurry up getting finished and that of course means that they often make many mistakes. Another one is that back in the days of these books, you couldn't just go online and get live footage for how bands played their songs, so there was not as much information like that available. Yet another reason is that sometimes the transcribers working on these books weren't necessarily all that familiar with the genre, which makes things much harder. That fact, in combination with how distortion works, makes it somewhat understandable that they could hear a distorted power chord and imagine that it's a full major chord, simply because distortion introduces harmonics to the sound (check out "harmonic distortion" if you want to learn more about how that works). These added harmonics are in no way near as impactful as the actual notes played, but it's sometimes enough to fool the ear that a major chord is played when it's actually just a heavily distorted power chord. With more experience in the genre, you'd know that, and you'd be less inclined to make that mistake. The bottom line is that the companies selling these books don't really care if the end result is 100% accurate, they just want the product out on the market as quickly as possible to make as much money as possible, and enough people are bying the books to justify their actions even though many people complain. Thankfully, newer companies like Sheet Happens are working together with the artists to create more accurate tab books, but the downside (at least for someone old-school like me) is that they only have the rhythmic tab staff from Guitar Pro, no standard notation.
@@adboss145 No, that's not what they're doing. It has to do with how distortion works. It introduces harmonics to the sound (check out "harmonic distortion" if you want to learn more about how that works). These added harmonics are in no way near as impactful as the actual notes played, but it's sometimes enough to fool the ear that a major chord is played when it's actually just a heavily distorted power chord, and this is especially true if you aren't that familiar with the genre of music that you're transcribing.
Love your "shitty tab books" series :) However on the original recording Kirk actually pulled the string off the fretboard by accident :) Pretty sure they also butchered the main Damage, Inc. riff, and more stuff.
The first transcription book i ever bought had "Ace of Spades" in Eb and had clearly been worked out by someone on a piano. Started my scepticism of formal methods on day 1.
Well. Kirk has said interviews that the high harmonic in the solo was made by accident when he bent the string off the fretboard and caught the fret and he never has been able to reproduce it. So that part was technically right.
It’s funny because I have just bought the full set of Metallica guitar’ books (used) in order to have the official way to play everything. How naive can I be????
Had this book and the master of puppets tab was the same as what was in guitar for practicing musician magazine. I had learned most of it a year later and knew it was wrong at 14 and 15 year's old. Great lesson as always sir, great time in life and music that 84 to 88 Era was really good.
Ozzy and Randy Tribute tab book is really spot on its almost scary (its the first tab book I purchased) and my next purchase was Metallica MOP and I knew instantly that it was incorrect. Battery fooled us all because it is almost accurate so it makes you think the rest of the tabs in MOP are good to go.
I remember buying a dream Theater tab book of 'Images and words' Most of it (e.g. the Time signatures) was wrong, but can I blame the people who transcribed it?
