Is it just me or does he make the most subtle of smiles between the lines "but rest assured" and "this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it"? If so, that's some excellent acting!
He does smirk and his performance in this scene was absolutely outstanding. The cold calculated body language and vibe from the tone and mannerisms in his voice are superbly executed.
And the way his eyes subtly widen when he says "And we have become _exceedingly efficient_ at it." A mixture of both pride and exuberance. Almost human.
Say what you will about Reloaded, but this was by far the scariest and darkest and most underrated scene in the movie. It revealed so much about just how in control the machines were in the whole predicament of things, not just the Matrix alone. It revealed how doomed humans are in doing anything at all to stop any of it. Especially towards the end of the video, it was pretty frightening when the continued cycle plan with Zion was revealed by the Architect. Zion, literally the only hope humans have of establishment and rebellion, is also a part of the damn plan and that was just terrifying and dark. What made things more unsettling was the way music was used in this scene. The silence in music throughout the whole scene giving room for explanation and then the sudden eerie music when the real frightening truth was exposed about Zion was masterfully done. It showcased how even the viewers have no idea how far the machines have things figured out.
Indeed. Reminds me of Oracle speaking about programs. Machines only keep Zion alive until they find the anomaly, feed him same manipulation they were fed generations ago and with the help of Oracle, guide him/her to the Source. And as soon as their purpose is fulfilled, they are terminated until they become threat to the Machinecity. Thus freeing space for new settlers, and beginning the cycle anew. Like a huge ant-farm.
Agreed. One of the issues that plagues most Superman movies is that the protagonist is so powerful that it's hard to care about what's happening on screen. The idea that the fact that the protagonist is god-tier powerful is all just a part of the bad guys' plan is a *VERY NICE* twist!
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I wasnt smart enough to understand this movie when i was younger vis-a-vis my deeper understanding in the present. Concordingly, my overall appreciation for this scene has increased considerably.
It''s a consistent theme among pop culture critics - "I don't understand it, or there's no clear, unambiguous interpretation/meaning/moral handed to me on a plate, therefore it must be shit". It's a problem that persists to this day, only the big problem is that these hack journalists account for a much larger share of the movie review market nowadays.
@@jamyskis It wasn't just the journalists, it was the audience as well. The issue with the matrix sequels is that they aim for something different than the original Matrix, and thus audiences came into this scene extremely disappointed, and likely not understanding the point. And even if you understand the point, it doesn't necessarily make the movie GOOD, I think this scene is good, but I still don't like this movie.
Only thing i may slam it for is. I hate the attitude of the architect. Example "Denialist is the most predictable of all human responses"... so is control freaks. Cant say i like him personally even if its a good unlikeable villlain
This is midwit fodder. It's a gobbledygook salad most people can't dissect in a timely enough manner to understand, but is just highfalutin enough to make them think it's intellectual. Actually intelligent people can real-time interpret it, but realize it's just a by-the-numbers plot twist.
The core problem is choice and the many factors it can lead wether good or bad hence why the previous matrix's before neo failed miserably is because the paradise was forced upon us humans without the choice of how we perceive our own "paradise" that the machines created with the matrix. Upon the oracle who helped people make their own damn choices is how the matrix became more accepted by the masses. Choice is very unpredictable in all its aspects Hopefully this helped explain at least what hes talking about
@@rileyk5228 there is a reason neuroscientists don’t believe in free will or god but somehow love the idea of simulation theory. Atheism and monotheism coexist. The father and the mother rolled their loaded dice 🎲 🎲
@@giggiesurge The reason for that is a mathematic theorem and the logic behind it makes sense but holds little significance even for the people that believe it. It's obviously not a replacement for god. Carl Jung cracked on the code on that pretty simply. People replace god with authority. Maybe you should try becoming a neuroscientist before you try to pigeon hole them. On second thought, don't bother.
One of my favorite scenes in this movie. Loved the lines and the Architects delivery. The only thing I was never sure of was, when Neo references the Oracle by name, and the Architect says, “Please!” Was he offended that she was being referred to as the Oracle, or essentially telling Neo, “No,not her. Someone else” ?
Architect: You see, Neo, Matrix is a fuckload of awesome MATHS. Neo: You mean you used magic? Architect: plz Offended. Definitely offended. How would you feel if after working your ass off to create something so vast and amazing as the Matrix, some ape came in and started naming things after mythical or religious things?
The former. He remarks "Please!" in a slightly condescending tone and then explains how she operates. If we exclude the religious aspects of the term, which is likely just foolish human superstition to the Architect, Oracles should, by the definition alone, predict the future. She doesn't have that ability. She can simply make a very accurate educated guess.
@@scar4361 Well it's much better than that. She can approximate the future to a massive degree. It is the definition of wisdom. She can account for billions of variables and also predict those trends over time. An entire consciousness can be inserted into the matrix and that would just be a fly in her calculations. She clearly understands the system much better than the architect but the offset is that she has no real power to create.
The first Matrix (as Smith said and the Architect reiterates here) was designed as a paradise where humans could be happy. However, human nature rejected the program because humans are naturally imperfect beings. Much like the Garden of Eden.
Seriously?! You are going to compare to that childish tales?! The Garden of Eden was fine. The only imperfection was the psychopathic God who had to put one tree in there that he doesn’t want them to climb. Why even put it there then if you created the whole shit? The imperfection was not eve nor the snake nor the fruit. Eve a human was naturally curious. To learn is to be human. Shut up and believe is not a natural human trait although Billions are forced to that in the name of 2 stupid religions.
@@beowulf555 take a chill pill. I’m not saying I believe the garden of eden existed, I’m just putting a lampshade on the allusion. The Wachowskis may have intended that allusion, they may not have, but the similarity is there.
@@beowulf555 well, then I’m not sure how to help you. Think of the forbidden tree as the door that leads back to the Matrix. Why? Why didn’t the architect just engineer this room in such a way that Neo couldn’t return to the Matrix if he wanted him to proceed to the mainframe? Basically, the whole point of the scene is that the Matrix is built on free will and choice because it didn’t function without it. The Architect and the Oracle both realised that the function of choice allowed humans to accept the program even if there were those who rejected it and left.
"There are two doors. The door to your right will lead you to the source and salvation of Zion. The door to your left leads back to the Matrix, to her, and to the end of your species. As you adequately put, 'the problem is choice'."
No lol. He's saying please because she isn't the oracle that NEO and the rest think she is. She's just another program that's simply capable of prediction through mathematical formulation
i think the reason he says "pleeaase" is be because an Oracle can predict future events. But the architect knows she has been orchestration all the events not predicting them.
Having a group of powerful machines that can tear through walls and flesh but only seem capable of attacking while bunched at a specific vertex point is ANYTHING BUT "exceedingly efficient".
"You won't let it-" "NO YOU WON"T LET IT! I'm the one who talks, ok?! Mouth shut, ears open!" "You haven't answered my ques-" "YOU DO NOT WANNA SEE ME GET OUT OF THIS CHAIR! Ergo open your yapper one more time and I'm gonna Architect a world of pain all over your candy ass! ERO! VIS-A-VIS!" "This is about-" "CONDCORDANTLY!"
@@Mapantz1 just practicing my IT knowledge: The CMOS usually refers to a chip attached the motherboard and holds the BIOS. The CMOS typically has its own battery to help maintain itself because it uses volatile memory. CMOS is actually the name of the technology used by the chip and is used in a lot of other applications, although on desktops you can be safe assuming what it refers to.
Love the slight disgust in his voice when he say "thus the answer was stumbled upon by another...an intuitive program." Like damn. What the oracle ever do to u bra?!!?
Agreed. The Oracle for the Architect is symbolic of everything the Architect despises - she was programmed to create a digital abstract of the logic behind human intuition and emotion and later came to embrace it. The Architect - in his own mind - is a being of pure logic and mathematics, although obviously his contempt for humanity and his pleasure at the destruction obviously show he fails to live up to his own standards.
@@jamyskis Those feelings are perfectly rational. I'm sure he can appreciate that he appreciates the destruction of his enemies and his lack of concern for their well-being is in line with his prerogatives. He also clearly has great respect for the wealth of knowledge he is using to design the matrix, very little of which can be applied to the topic that the Oracle has mastered. The Oracle understands the Matrix better than he does and he doesn't like it. Basically he's a nerd and she's a political genius. Her knowledge applies outside of humanity. It applies to any actors with incentives within a system.
Only a hand full of people know how fu*king crazy that convo was. If I am the father of this world she is undoubtedly it's mother. This goes back to the reboot of man kind in the garden of Eden.
ppl appreciate this scene more now, but remember that the poor reviews came from people who had seen it once, maybe twice, in a theater. with the internet barely being a thing, that was the normal way to consume movies. so when colonel sanders starts talking really quickly and using purposefully convoluted words, you cant rewind to hear him again. if you missed it, youre now confused, and have to buy another ticket and/or wait for the movie's distribution on dvd. so i dont think people disliked the scene cuz they were all stupid and were sooooo much smarter. i think a large reason is that we can rewind video with no effort to analyze and process media as many times as we'd like, which is something few, in any had back when this was released
No, it's a new element in a movie continuing from that film. As he Noe himself said "Either no one told me. Or no one knows" It's literally that self explanatory. Those words he's using that you aren't used to should not have confused you that badly.
It's so cool that the most lampooned scene in the original trilogy is pretty much universally loved now. It makes me feel strangely vindicated, as someone who's always liked this scene. It'll be interesting to see how long it takes for the same thing to happen to Resurrections. I'm betting that it won't take as long, because the internet seems to speed up every cultural phenomenon.
But atleast it was memorable! I've seen Resurrections in the movies. I can remember very very little about the movie, basically Keanu Reeves not using any fightstyle except the WoW mana shield thingy for the entire film.
It's a whole philosophy about destiny, our choices doesn't matter, our lives are written, it makes sense since many books like the Bible have already described things before it happened, so we live in a script. Strange to understand the purpose of it all
The first Matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect; it was a work of art, flawless, sublime... Paradise Lost - Milton Golden Age of Cronus, Cronos, or Kronos OR Chronos the personification of time in pre-Socratic philosophy and later literature. (Golden race of humans ; pretty much like robots ; everything is determined ; no AI ) Cronos and Chronos are the same because primordial Gaia (Mother Earth) and Uranus (Father Sky) represent physical,material and organized(planned,regulated) spiritual domain of otherwise chaotic ideas . Chronos or Cronos therefore represents space-time continuum or level/layer of existence . That is why this movie is cult classic . It is an old civilisation problem in a form of SF movie .
Id love to ask so many questions now, that im seing this scene again after seing the movie 10 years ago as a kid. Main one would probably be, what was Neo hoping to achieve. All machines wanted was to destroy Zion and fix the matrix so humans wouldnt rebel against it. The only issue was Smith took control over it. Overall humans seem hopeless for finding any kind of peace. I guess if machines didnt find Zion on time, they would die off because they wouldnt be able to feed with matrix taken down. But... Not before killing all Zion surviviors, leading to both machines and humans extinction. So... Was neo just offering to save machines so only this one time machines wouldnt destroy Zion... and then what?
okay part 2 i guess... So my take would be, machines cannot be killed stopped, matrix cannot not excist. Both machines and humans do what they need to survive. But eventually matrix will be perfected and no one will awake ever again. Machines get perfect matrix where theres no anomalies and people live and die not knowing their lifes are fake, at the same time part of humanity gets to live in a free world of Zion. Well looking at it like that, matrix 4 is basically, Neo sacrificed his life for peace between machines and humans, but now he will throw it all away because he wants his life back. But hey as much as it undoes his actions it is realistic in how humans would act. Anyway i was just really happy to see Zion and matrix after actions of matrix 3 because that was kind of an unknown. It was great to see that Zion was advanding technologically and some of machines were willing to work alongside humans.
"....I have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind or perhaps a mind less bound by the parameters of...." "Or maybe you're just not as smart as you think you are, professor windbag"
0:37 He looks up to God when he says, “A Mind less bound by the parameters of perfection.” He represents Lucifer in that he believes his vision for creation is greater than the original Creator. However, both a machine and Lucifer both suffer from the same fallacy of logic. In essence, the sum of an equation in chaos theory or governing dynamics is most effected be the initial conditions. Since a Machine and Lucifer will always be a second order consequence of the Creator, they can never come to the same logical or Mathematical conclusion as to what “Perfection” actually is. A simple way to think about it is this. 30 people are in a room. They all take the same test. 1 is the Teacher. 1 is a TA. 28 are students. The rules are this! Each entity/person can only understand I.e. compare themselves to someone of equal or lesser “Experience”. Therefore their will be 3 different Average test scores, for the Class. One has 30 samples. One has 29 samples. One has 28 samples. Therefore, the optimal solution to improve test scores or what should be tested will always be different depending on one’s perspective or position. No one fully understands you but you. That also means that no one full understands God but God. For us to assume the system is flawed, and that we know what perfection is better than God, is inherently irrational and hubris. This is why Satan got his ass kicked by Jesus. The Son understands the Father more than anyone, and is therefore above the rules of the game. Neo is the symbolic representation of Christ in the movie.
When do you plan, to shut down the whole SimCity? As in the bigger picture, many of these naturally occurring galaxy collusions, and/or solar system collusions, etc., also result in inhumane deaths.
The architect ( bad guy who enslaves everyone and wants to destroy Zion , whose inhabitants are mainly people of color) is an old white guy.. and the Oracle ( good gal who is trying to free slaves) is an older woman of color... Oooooh I get it
Thinking about this today it doesn´t really make sense. There is the hive mind who apparently is the head of the machines and I conclude to that since neo speaks to it referring to mr smith as "one of your programs" but that thing is extremely hostile and has none of the character aspects that the architect has. From that we can conclude that the hivemind isnt the architect but the architect is a creation of the hive mind. Now it would make sense to create programs who resemble parts of humanity to create the matrix if you have already failed to but it seems like the hivemind never tried, it doesnt make sense to have a godlike superior AI unable to create a matrix and therefore creating another lesser AI to do it for it even tho the primary AI is far more advanced? The architect says he invented the first matrix but it wasnt compatible with humanity. That points out that the hive mind never created a matrix itself...why? For us that thought only makes sense because any AI in what it does is way superior then us so an AI might be better at creating something (see code languague) with higher efficiency. However the hive mind is already a collective massive AI including all the machines out there and all the combined artificial intelect so this just doesnt make sense it is as if we were to create an AI that has less intellect than we do so the possible outcome can only be worse then our own research. Now the oracle is a different thing since she resembles what eh AI lacks, humanity. There just is no point for the hive mind to give a thing of such importance out of its own control to the architect to begin with. Think of it that way, if you wanned to create an AI or program, with a certain function you create an AI or program for that function, why would you create an AI or program that then creates another AI or program for that function within itself for you. It is way more complicated, uncontrollable and unpredictable therefore just raises the chances of missing the functionality you intended it to have. For example we cannot understand the brain, so it makes sense to create an AI that has the function to analyse and understand our brain for us. It just doesnt make sense to try to create an AI with the instruction to create another AI with this function, because now not only do we have to know the parameters of an AI to instruct it to look for the right things but we ALSO have to know the parameters to instruct an AI to INSTRUCT another AI to do it. We can however start with an AI that is capable of understanding its own tasks and changing its own parameters according to improving its efficiency since we might not now the general conditions optimal for the task to begin with. However thats not what the architect resembles, the architect is unable to change itself and he also isn´t the matrix itself, that is why he had to create the oracle in order to change the matrix. So a god AI creating and AI that creates another AI...which makes no sense since it can only scale downwards since every one of these AIs has less ability in potential then its corresponding superior one. The only way this would have made sense is the exact other way around. So the first AI redefines the creation conditions of another AI and it ends up being superior and it leads all the way up to the hive mind who then ends up having all the control.
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Waaaaiiit. The Architect says that there have been 6 Neos/Ones. Yet the screens show way more than 6 reactions. So Neo visited the architect way more than 6 times.
I think the screens show all possible Neo reactions to the Architect's words, as calculated at that moment by the program. The Architect is trying to show Neo how predictable he really is.
@@TheOiseau Exactly. It comes back to choice. The monitors represent all the possible options of reactions that Neo could have. It’s when he’s looking around at them that ‘the problem is choice’ dawns on him. Although this being said, I love the fact that his reaction to being Zion is about to be destroyed is “Bullshit” and ALL of the other Neos say Bullshit as well, just with varying degrees of aggressiveness.
@@Shakes-Off-Fear And architect replies to multiple bullshits - "denial is most predictable of all human responses" - so its definete confirmation, that those are not 'previous Neo'es'. Its calculation of architect, as he for once guesses the predictable outcome of Neo's response correctly. Also - he mentions, that the One is also a program, meant to reset over and over again after Zions fall. Neo is just the first one to chose differently than previous 'Ones' and in the end that leads to saving Zion for once and making peace with the machines? Im interested to see the outcome in fourth matrix. Trinity and Neo were seemingly dead, Trinity for sure, so are they both made as programms to exist within the matrix? Who the hell knows whats going on in 4th part :P
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The Decepticons, also seem to provide a certain level of common sense. Perhaps, the likes of a minimum minimal vaccine controlled like infections. Mainly for having common sense, as a defense mechanism.
@KYLE RITTENHOUSE - AMERICAN HERO you're almost right. The other door that leads to the source, is where neo picks 20 something humans and rebuilds Zion with a lie. It was the same lie that was told to morph. Then the machines remove his code, kill him, and the new one pops up in the new matrix. Architect explains that he put "the one" in the matrix on purpose to just repeat the cycle. Since it was going to happen anyways, he would rather control it and lead it to the source.
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A video between. The first video. A life like. Is it duration-less ? Does it summon participants & all that's left is war ? Thinking aloud. Could we track it ? Nooooooo What happens post ? Is a war. That's clear. Because you've spoiled it😮 (I could be vwrong)
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