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I was a lil bit soured on your opinion of FF16 but the you using SOR2 music for this video redeems it😂 not to mention this choice of music so PERFECTLY matches the vibe and era of yuyu hakusho
I don't like how everyone's clothing is just too clean. Avatar has the same problem. Feels like a fresh outfit was pulled off the rack before every scene was filmed
I wrote this on another video on this subject but I'll just do a copy-pasta here because why not? I don't know why they went up to the end of Dark Tournament. 5 hours just isn't enough. I originally wrote that they should've just gone up to the end of the first Toguro fight and rescue Yukina but the more I wrote, the more I realized that even the first 25 episodes was too much. Really, things should've ended with the 4 Saint Beasts. And it's fits perfectly. We see Yusuke resurrected, we get his encounters with Gouki, showing Yusuke isn't just a good fighter but he's smart, able to think out a clever way to win against a stronger fighter (shooting Gouki in the mouth when he realized he could never get through the tough skin). We see how kind he is and willing to sacrifice with Kurama and he cares for Keiko, which we see with his fight against Hiei (and again, being clever with the mirror). The tournament with Genkai introduces us to her and it buffs him up. Then we get the gang all together, for 4 Saint Beasts. Yusuke brings along his rival Kuwabara along with Kurama and Hiei, 3 enemies now turned allies. We get to see them fight and they put it all on the line to save the city from the 4 Saint Beasts. Perfect! Yes, we don't get the favorite parts from the anime, the Toguro Brothers and Dark Tournament, but fans would much rather have it done competently than haphazardly. And saving that for S2 would be better. It gives it more time, plus rescuing Yukina is perfect for the first part of S2. We see Yusuke and Kawabara just clean up demons, showing that they're way above most normal enemies. It gives weight to the strength of the Toguro brothers.
Ya this is much better. Tbh I'd probably stop when he started training with genkai. That's how much slower I would pace this. Bc the first season of yuyu was so different from everything after. He was actually a detective.
Ok, I'm just going to say straight up that I feel the same way about the Netflix series as I do about Three Kings: there's some really great stuff, and some very low points as well. I am 100% on board that the pacing was awful. I'm on board that a lot of things were skipped out and some character development was lost (especially with Genkai). That was disappointing. But at the same time, I thought the fight scenes were probably the best I've ever seen, Keiko's more active role, the characters I love were there, the acting was solid and I could see the effort put into it. Don't clobber me for saying that, I'm coming at it from my film and theatre background. There WAS effort put into this, even if sometimes misplaced. And Kuwabara? I was most worried about his character from the images and trailers but I truly thought his characterisation was one of the best things about the series. The basics of the storyline were there, if INSANELY rushed. The things I disliked don't take away from what I did like. And I am really, REALLY tired of the mud-slinging, particularly the ones saying "the whole franchise is ruined" or "You're not a real fan if you found the slightest positive aspect in the series!" However you feel about the Netflix series is fine and perfectly valid. But the LA hasn't ruined YYH. The manga and anime are still there; they haven't vanished. I honestly found this experience decent if flawed. And I know for a fact that it has brought new fans to the franchise. That can only be a good thing. I highly recommend checking out the two excellent stage productions. Each covers one half of the spirit detective saga and is done brilliantly. As always, your analytical style is fabulous. And I'm glad you said what you did at the beginning about art being subjective. YYH is arguably my favourite anime. I didn't love the LA, but I certainly didn't hate it either. I guess I'm in the middle where I fully acknowledge the flaws and enjoy the parts that worked.
That's the thing about media criticism and discussion that people forget; there can be, and often is, a middle ground when it comes to how you feel once it's all said and done. Just because I personally didn't like something doesn't mean it's objectively terrible. It just isn't for me, which I can always acknowledge. People gotta learn to agree to disagree on certain things. Now, there ARE pieces of media that are just BAD, but everyone tends to agree on those when they happen lmao.
@@SomewherePastNever Agreed! I said on one internet review that I found it a mixed bag, and another commenter told me that I was in denial and should just say the show is 100% trash and an insult to art itself… and I said I’m not going to say I thought something was irredeemable trash when I honestly didn’t think it was. Well…you can guess how well THAT went down 😂 I guess some people don’t understand nuance? Seriously though, I’ve got a long background in theatre and film making and I’ve been a professional theatre critic for 5 years now, and I’ve seen some TERRIBLE stuff 😂 but no matter what there’s always some aspect to praise, even if it’s a single performer, the set design, or in the case of the absolute worst theatrical play I ever sat through, the lighting (and even then, I had to REALLY think about what I could honestly praise. Trust me, it was BAD!) Yes, this Netflix series could have been better. It’s not as good as One Piece but we are not in DB Evolution territory either. I’ll tell you my favourite moment while watching the LA, though. I got to Kurama vs Karasu (aka nostalgic speed run) when my mother walked in… Mum: (glances at the TV, sees Karasu) Oh look, it’s Michael Jackson. (walks out)
@@AbStar_xx Your mom has a strong sense of humor lmao. Yeah, you can't really argue with people who are dead set on trying to make you bend the knee to their perspective rather than have a nuanced discussion about the art itself. It's why I always say "I'm not telling you why you shouldn't like ______, I'm just explaining why it doesn't work for ME." Y'know? Also, are you in the discord server? I genuinely have no idea, but I enjoy your insight on things! Let me know if you ever want to collab on a topic~
It's as if people feel like they HAVE to like these adaptations of anime and video games. They're so hungry for an adaptation that's actually good, that anything even slightly above quality is award winning to them.
The extreme degree to which they must condense the story to make it 5 episodes long for all the eay up through the end of thr Dark Tournament makes me somewhat fascinated my how they'll have to rearrange all of the pieces of the story and hence I'm curious to watch it.
shit i just sold one of my drawing tablets lol i do have 2 others one i might be willing to let go its the smaller Wacom 472 as i have the big brother the 672 i'd be willing to ship it to her
For the most part I’d agree with you but actually in the manga, Yusuke does ask the Forlorn Hope to take only part of each of their lives to fulfill the wish. I remember this because it was Yusuke showing more of a sense of pragmatism whereas in the anime Yusuke just offers up his own life without considering his own mother. While it seems like a stretch it seems like the writers seem to draw more from the manga- such as this bit and the photo displayed at Yusuke’s funeral. Not saying they do a good job of that either but at least there is some basis for Yusuke only offering up half of his life
So many live action remakes it's getting hard to keep track of them all. Only one I actually saw was the one piece one and I hope they use that to expand on the coby side of the story rather than Luffy as we already know his side. Coby could use the development as well as hibari prince gruce and co as they are basically the marine supernovas and oda really doesn't have the time to beef them up that fast or give them all more spotlight with what's going on. The live action can do that.
I swear if you don't like an adaptation the first defense is always someone saying "well it was never gonna be a 1 to 1 remake" like bro get Netflix nuts out your mouth and accept that it wasn't a good adaptation.
It is an interesting contrast between the quality of this, vs. the quality of the One Piece adaptation. It's clear that both want to condense it, but the One Piece one seems to only really want to remove some of the fluff and filler while maintaining the story, arcs, and characters as much as possible. It doesn't require you to see One Piece to enjoy the adaptation. And while I still hold that I had a blast watching the live Action YYH, if I hadn't seen the anime a dozen times half of what happened wouldn't have made sense, and in retrospect may be why I was more lenient because I wasn't even thinking about that at the time. Of course X and Y happen, because it was in the show and I know the meaning! but, others won't. So your question of "Who is this for?" Is the most important one, because I really don't know who this is for. Maybe it's for folks like me that are easily entertained, I do fall for the jingle keys. That said, I watched the anime again right after watching this and it was the perfect palette cleanser! It's not complete trash like The Death Note movie (Are we allowed to talk about that?) But it wasn't even close to the care that was put into One Piece. Love the video mate!
"I didn't know you could own sinkholes." I'm actually really curious about this. Usually we think of owning property as owning a specific area of physical land. But if that land got sinkholed, would a person be able to sell that sinkhole? I guess it would depend on the municipality and their rules and regulations on what could be done with the hole.
I felt that it was meh! Some changes I liked but I agree that those moments we love so much happened because it took time to get there. Rushing to the finish line only made those moments feel cheap.
He does smoke in the Manga. Which at the time, it felt like they were paying homage. But when I saw people get angry about it, I realized not many know that. Then I realized maybe it was just as you said, an act of rebellion.
@@gIokk You know what I figured out what happened. This was years ago but I found the YYH anime online and was gonna watch the whole thing but got tired of half hour episodes so I found the manga instead and read the entire thing (up to the end of the tournament I think? I read 3000 pages in a day I remember that very clearly lol) in pretty much one sitting. So since I watched the first few episodes and then read the first few chapters right after my brain must have melded em together over the years. That was... 15 years ago fuck lol. Edit: and I own the DVD set now that I'm an adult, I haven't pirated anything in a real long time lol, it's not worth the risk nowadays, I don't like stealing content I enjoy, and honestly it's just easier to just pay lol. Just figured I'd throw this in in case someone wants to yell at me for pirating the series >.>
@@damiencouturee6240 lmfaoo brooo shits crazy man... thats how it be though, yyh is just too great tho. ill always rewatch it, i remember when I came across it again during the quaratine in 2020 and rewatched the series 😂, i first watched it when i was a kid in 2010, was hooked ever since man.
In regards to your intro I'm glad you said it because with Netflix avatar out its a lot of avatar fans who are just trying to outright shut down anyone who has a negative opinion on the show. Im like feel free to enjoy it but we not gonna act like the writing wasn't bad. You can make changes sure but when you make too many it generally doesn't end well.
I can honestly say, after watching the full LA and sitting with my thoughts for a bit, I'm extremely disappointed with this adaptation. It's not because I wanted more fight scenes, a better adherence to the original chronology, or something like that. There was so much missing in terms of dialogue, emotion, suspense, and character development. I keep reading responses to criticism cite a lack of budget or uncertainty about being renewed for a second season, but honestly this rework could have been given so much more heft if they had like 2 more episodes worth of mainly dialogue or perspective/flashbacks spliced into the existing episodes. I wish they would have ended the first season of the LA at the same place they ended in the anime, I could have lived with that. Just imagine the cliffhanger we would have gotten if we watched Yusuke walk away from the rigged fight believing he actually won, going back to reality with a newly found confidence, only to have Toguro standing in front of him and the season ending there.
My biggest problem with the show was the tone. Yu Yu Hakusho was funny, bold, tense. The live adaptation was none of those things. Part of the reason Koenma was such an interesting character was because his title of second in line ruler of the spirit world was juxtaposed by him literally being a baby. It was played off for laughs sometimes sure. But by the end of the series his physical transformation was a representation of the character growth he'd experienced throughout the series. One of the best things about yyh was those dark, serious storylines being tempered by the foolish humor of a young boy playing the whole thing off for laughs with a devil may care attitude. Yusuke dies before out story even begins, why shouldn't he see every scenario he's in as a joke? All and all you laid out a great essay of the problems with the live adaptation. But man, my biggest issue is it just wasn't fun. How the writers could miss the mark that much blows my mind.
Bro this show was so rushed 😢 Netflix abused a legendary show for humanity once again. . Literally like rewatching the live adaptation is like itachi putting Sasuke in a genjutsu as a child..
3:05 not going to lie that nuanced discussion on criticism and enjoying art just made me subscribed to your channel more people need to realize that. let people hate things as well as let people like things you think it's common sense but apparently not 💪🏿
This adaptation suffer the same thing Death Note did. IF you never see the original these are decent! But they take out alot of good content to just give a fast story.
I like to think that since Hiei gave himself the jagan eye by this shows logic it didn’t take all his power so live action hiei is just casually low B class.
Fucking hated this show. The action can be cool, and it can still shit on the show. The fact that this was bad and generally forgettable because of it means theres no hope of a surge in fan interest leading to additional content.
I really wanted to give it a chance but it felt too inconsistent with the narrative they were going for. It's not a great dub because it makes the direction of the actors disjointed. Pacing is too fast, great fight scenes to keep it short
I believe Netflix one piece is a great example of how an adaptation should be. True to the source but has an identity of its own and brings new fans to the series
They also had a much bigger budget and more episodes to work with. Plus Oda was 100% involved. It had a lot more behind it. If YYH Netflix had been three seasons or so, just image how much better it would have been. That being said, there was still a fair bit to admire, like the action scenes. I found it a mixed bag.
I haven't seem the OPLA because I'm not familiar with One Piece aside from hazy memories of watching the first few episodes on 4KidsTV waaaay back in the day lol.
I don’t care what anybody say this was definitely the best live action anime out there before avatar came so definitely didn’t have high expectation. Definitely loved it then most.
This is yet another perfect example of why I just never watch anything anymore. ESPECIALLY not re-makes/re-boots/re-imaginings/adaptations. For years, 99.9 percent of every attempt has been trash by either writers who hate the source material, or people who are crushed by soulless shot-calling suits and budgetary issues.
I hated what Episode 4 did to Kuwabara. In Episode 3, he figured out how to use Spirit Sword but in the following Episode, he doesn't bother to try using it even when he knows Keiko and especially Yukina would've gotten hurt by the monster that tries attacking him. What was the point of his speech abouting being a man if he's gonna be treated as powerless as the girls when in the anime, Kuwabara would've easily dealt with a monster like that from the same arc?
I like this video but just wanted to say maybe sprinkle the patreon and sponsor stuff throughout bc its kinda hard to want to keep watching after 6 minutes of plugs and ads good work just wanted to throw in my 2 cents
I'd have preferred if the show never even made it to the dark tournament rather than getting the shit show of a "dark tournament" we did get. What wasted potential :'(
one of my favorite things about yu yu hakusho that this adaptation missed was something that a lot of action anime miss now which is the 4 or 5 episodes (i forgot) that yusuke had to grow and communicate with his friends even making friends with kuwubara and kuwubara's episode not being included where he helped his friends that episode was surprising and touching showing that kuwubara isnt the punk we saw in episode 1 and there was no building with yusuke and keiko's romantic hints while yusuke is dead and isnt able to easily talk with keiko.
i wish they made it just like how the people made one piece live adaption.. its sad asf.. yyh is my top 3 anime n i dont really like the rest of the episodes of the live adaption
Utter disappointment but not surprising, the only positive note is that maybe more people might enjoy the anime! Loved your video! Would love to do a meetup! Do you know why netflix even green lit the project ? I just dont understand why did they approach one piece differently than yu yu?? One piece is garbage overrrated shit compared to yyh
I haven't the slightest idea why Netflix decided to green light this, especially because YYH hasn't been in the mainstream eye for a LONG time. So maybe they thought not enough people would care if it turned out poorly?
I honestly felt like it wasn't that bad, but I agree I would have just preferred to have seen the actual anime instead considering how much gets cut and changed yet trying to keep the "highlights" of the show without the proper context. For me, the worse parts were mainky the Genkai training being reduced to just a training arc, instead of at least a mini tournament where Yusuke and Kuwabara may have gotten to fight against Randou or anothwr similar antagonist, and while I don't mind that Hiei kind of changed because the Yukina backstory came probably years after he was introduced - where he kind of is just a flat villain (at least that was my perception before he joined Team Yurameshi) - I found that I didn't like that it basically meant that he lost not only his history but also that according to this series, Hiei doesn't have that transformation that he used to fight Yusuke in the anime. I was legit wondering if they were gonna just skip the Hiei vs Yusuke fight until I saw Keiko was kidnapped by the fake Hiei. I do agree: the main issue this show has is mainly the writting and cuts, because for the most part, the actors do a decent job (did take me time to get used to Yusuke, but Kuwabara for me was the highlight, even if this one was more superficial; I thought the actor did a pretty good job encapsulating a "real life" Kuwabara, even with the lack of overexaggerated expressions.
