The "Melee" of Competitive Pokemon. 

Careful, bc rock slide is -8 on shield after L-cancel and swampert has a frame 6 out-of-shield option in the form of upB hydro pump

Got a chuckle out of me

@@lulu82oi have no idea what this means lmao

Celeste enjoyer?

Did he just walk up slowly and Hidden Power Grass?!?!??!?!?!

Is there a video of this on RU-vid? Sounds amazing

@shevankaseneviratne1724 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-c7nVChlTVl8.html&ab_channel=NickHarperPkm

Yes! There is lots of ADV VGC content on RU-vid, I don’t believe any raw footage of that moment of the event exists though. I could be wrong

​@@LRXC1there actually is! A channel uploaded information about the PCNY and stuff, I think it's im a blissy?

Its a good love letter to the Gen3 !

People don't appreciate the gem that is gen 3

@@viewer6152 okay chill out man, I wasn't making a deep statement, I just wanted to say that I don't see gen 3 getting as appreciated as 4,7 or 5. Nothing more than that , haha. But I still agree with your comment, MOST (95%) Pokémon games have been great but it just needs time to get the appreciation it deserves. But again those are just a portion of the community, either the manchilds that hate the old gens for no reason or the crybabies that hate on new games out of bandwagon. Happens a lot.

the current gen wave is harsh lmao

​@@darthvader7886what are you talking about emerald is still widely considered the best pokemon game

The lack of physical special split is not bad, just different. I actually prefer it, it made movepool choices more strategic instead of always picking STAB Oh and mixed attackers were reasonably common which is extremely rare now

​@@bluegum6438I wouldn't mind the split so much if it wasn't for Dark and and Ghost seemingly having classes switched. Just the thought of Dark being special and Ghost being physical makes me not want to even try.

@@JesterQueenAnne I personally think it makes sense. As I'm sure you know the only Ghost type move was Lick yadda yadda, and Dark is drawing power from malice, which is kind of "energy" rather than a physical force. A lot of Dark moves involve physical contact, but the stat that powers the damage inflicted is Special. Like an INT infusion in DS.

​@@bluegum6438I think another reason why it should've been switched was the fact that a lot of dark types back then couldn't take advantage of their higher physical attack stat. You also have Gengar who has two types that were physical even though he was more of a special attacker.

​@@udonnauchegbu2018that turned gengar into more of a support mon, and ttar is already the best pokemon on the tier so pursuit being special makes it less spammable on physical sets, plus it gives houndoom a niche for being the pursuiter with the highest special attack I agree that it is a good change on modern gens and it only works on adv because the power level is way more balanced without braindead risk free moves or every wall having access to roost or recover and immunity to passive damage (I can't speak for gen 1 and 2 because I don't play those tiers)

Reading this is making me wonder how to fit Mawile, Cradily and Chimecho into a semi-competitive team just because I like them.

This kind of thought leads me to wonder whether there is a nice way to mathematically formalize the thing you said about the meta having a tendency to change over time. I saw a paper a while back, which gave one possible formalization of a notion of a game having like, a high skill ceiling, or something like that (I forget the exact details) where they talked about the space of strategies for the game having like, many “layers” of cycles, where like, within any particular level, there is a kind of rock-paper-scissors type thing going on, with nothing in the level having a clear advantage over everything else in the same level, but where strategies in the next level up will tend to beat strategies in the level below them. I think the idea with that was that there would be a linear order on the levels, where better players play strategies at higher levels. But, if we want to describe a meta changing over time, rather than just “skill level”, maybe the idea should be modified so that there may be multiple possible incomparable “levels” “above” a given level? I suppose we could think of things like, maybe “levels” consist of a distribution over some subset of possible strategies that is (approximately?) a Nash equilibrium when strategies are restricted to that subset, but where some other distribution over some other subset of possible strategies, has a clear advantage over the first one, and, where there is a long network of such distributions, where the number of deterministic strategies each distribution is over, is required to be bounded in size to be something small compared to the total number of possible deterministic strategies, and where I guess maybe require of the “levels” that no deterministic strategy dominates it? And like, if we want to talk about how long the meta can keep changing, that could be depicted/represented/approximated by something about how big the digraph of “this level can become (i.e. is-beaten-by) this level” is, where “how big” is about how long the non-extendable paths in it are. Potentially these paths could have loops. If these loops were too tight, I imagine that instead of the community going around in that cycle, would instead move to an average of the places in that cycle, and so wouldn’t really make an active meta. But, longer loops, that seems like something that could happen. But, how to make this more precise? I’m not sure.

@@drdca8263 Read about Nash equilibriums

@@jakedewey3686 I did mention Nash equilibria in my comment?

The outro hit different, cause of Jim's spitting

Do you know, perchance, what that rap version is called?

@@MacAnters You'll Goin Magneton? Hidden Power Ground Bich ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hVnVyu9K02A.html I believe it was one of Viper's songs Jim remixed with Verdanturf theme

@@honjon666 Amazing! Thanks a lot!

We still got setup sweepers who only need one turn haha

Yeah but it's in the end of the game to clean up, with a lot of preparation. In gen 7, you send Drizzle Pelipper turn 1, U-turn into Mega Swampert /Ash Greninja and it's gg for most teams :/

You should try ADV draft league!

@@melikmourali2072no no no you don’t lead peliper on mega swampert rain then sand is up because peliper is too fast to have the rain go up second. You lead a pivot ( probably zapdos) pivot into peliper then uturn into mega swampert. Nat dex rain makes it especially easy cuz you can lead mega swampert.

Gen 1: Smash 64

Hackmons: rivals of aether workshop

I used to play Peach actually. I was very bad

Less corporational oversight I'd guess

Thanks Ludvix. Love your vids!

I had a similar experience too. I feel that low ladder gen 3 has a much higher concentration of good players than any other meta

This story has a better plot then most Netflix original series

Sit in the chat rooms and you'll find.just for fun ADV tournaments hosted regularly. I'm terrible at competitive pokemon but ADV ou is so interesting that I just keep playing

What's camerupt niche?

No, the powercreep from gen 4 to 5 was insane.

​@@Dziobothehobothe powercreep from gen 5 to 6 was insane

@@_M_4 the powercreep from gen 6 to 7 was insane

​@@gabrielmartinez8292the powercreep from Gen 7 to 8 was insane

​@@Squirtle_Squad_SupremacyThe Gholdengo was Insane

Gen V easily lol

Defo gen 5

Five !

gen 1

It's definitely GSC. It even has its own version of Meta Knight

E.g. not showering?

@@alLEDP wow this joke gets funnier every time it is said

​@@alLEDPspeaking as a melee player its always the newer generation players that smell like shit lmao

@@skycrimestv7165the melee community always smelled like shit

Yikes, that sounds terrible and frightening.

Imo bw "engine" is the best in the series mechanically

Tbf the sleep system in BW would be fucked no matter the pokemon in the gen, plus gems are absurdly broken if used smartly

@@funkymachine how so? I genuinenly don't know. I think perma weather and sleep being fucked make it worse mechanically than newer gens

@@juannaym8488 well gen 3/4 has perma weather too, and perma sand at least is fantastic for metas. as well as a few of the modern gen changes we like while still having good things like perma weather and 6.3% crits

@funkymachine the updated crits system is actually something that made me much happier to pick up the more modern gens. It removes alot of the rng bullshit from matches and I think have a good level of impact now where they will rarely ever flat out win you the game and can usually be played around, but can keep things interesting and some match ups to be less 100% guaranteed. I'm actually quite happy with the level of random bullshit that pokemon throws at you nowadays, with some exeptions like dire claw (and also freeze fuck freeze bring back the P:LA freeze gamefreak)

And I love it because I love focus punch

Tbh fury cutter is bad cheese already and really won't work in any meta.

@@nicolaistuhlmuller8718 I just ended up using normal strategies and now even though I can't beat any people on ladder atleast none of my friends can beat me

Well, there’s BKC…

Nobody outside of the few people who do play in the tournaments cares who anyone is. The tournaments are not like Melee tournaments in attracting high levels of spectatorship and coverage. There's this dichotomy where people who do follow tournaments say only tournaments matter, but the vast majority of the playerbase only play on ladder and don't even care or acknowledge who's high ranking or who isn't. This is a "love of the game" game where you will mostly exist in your own little world unless you immerse yourself in the smogon bubble, which again, most people do not. There are some personalities and recognizable names, but you only get recognized for winning all the time, or for bringing something unconventional and succeeding with it. I suppose that's hardly different from Melee fame.

That was SEA's team from a recent CI set. He's got good taste!

@@jimothycool hell yeah he do

Glad to see you here, you taught me gen 3 glitches and I'm very thankful for that!

@@playstationarusu