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Vaporeon’s Secret Weapon in Gen 3 OU. 

Jimothy Cool
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Pokemon Competitive Singles in Gen 3 has a long history. Vaporeon was once only seen as a defensive water type, where it was largely outclassed by Suicune, Milotic and Starmie.
But in recent years creative gamers have reinvented the identity of Vaporeon. Now most active Gen 3 players associate Vaporeon with its vital role on Hyper Offense teams as an aggressive lead.
A brilliant Vaporeon set emerged that had positive matchups against every common lead, helping the consistency of Aggressive teams by assuring that the early game went well.
This is insane.
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@jimothycool
@jimothycool 10 месяцев назад
jimothycool.com/ Get your very own Iron Mugulis! Currently only available in US, Australia and NZ. Ask me on Discord in discord.gg/hssyGya3 or email me at jimothycool.store@gmail.com for any questions about the mug.
@nezantra
@nezantra 10 месяцев назад
Iron Mugy was a shut in just like me?! Now I have to buy one of his clones and continue his outdoor education
@CubeBizz
@CubeBizz 10 месяцев назад
this is insane
@FrogInShorts
@FrogInShorts 10 месяцев назад
Lore reveal for Iron Mugulis having contempt for being a mug to hold drinks when what he truly desires is to be a planter to hold flowers.
@a-s-greig
@a-s-greig 10 месяцев назад
That makes sense to me. Being a mug is draining.
@FrogInShorts
@FrogInShorts 10 месяцев назад
@@a-s-greig You really gotta look at it glass half full.
@mamutepeq
@mamutepeq 10 месяцев назад
Hey guys, did you know that you probably think of Vaporeon as a primarily defensive Pokémon
@Mystic_DW
@Mystic_DW 10 месяцев назад
It was definitely designed that way, with its massive HP stat.
@ZeroForPresident
@ZeroForPresident 10 месяцев назад
Not to mention it's utility movepool, and it's defensively oriented water absorb ability.
@DkKobaADV
@DkKobaADV 10 месяцев назад
pokemon community stop making unfunny jokes challenge [failed]
@appelofdoom8211
@appelofdoom8211 10 месяцев назад
As well as its good defensive typing
@appelofdoom8211
@appelofdoom8211 10 месяцев назад
​@@DkKobaADVthis copypasta is only accetable when its subverted instead of cut off or played straight
@joetalentoh
@joetalentoh 10 месяцев назад
I honestly don't know what's more insane, a bulky water reinventing itself as a HO lead or the prize pool for ADV revival surging past $4k.
@xendra333
@xendra333 10 месяцев назад
Tbf, Gen 3 is one of the few gens where you can get away from running "Chinese" ev spreads because of how unique the interactions in this gen are compare to now, where everyone runs 252/252/4 spreads.
@nitro5247
@nitro5247 10 месяцев назад
@@xendra333nah the REAL tech is to run 252/252/1/1/1/1 for that ✨optimal mirror coat damage✨
@petrie911
@petrie911 10 месяцев назад
Vaporeon has the highest special attack of all water types in OU and UUBL. Not all that surprising its best use would be offensive, though subsalac baton pass is certainly quite the spicy set.
@Omar_ZX
@Omar_ZX 10 месяцев назад
I am very ready for the vaporeons that are gonna be filling the ladder after this video like blaziken or regirock
@sassafrassanid5718
@sassafrassanid5718 10 месяцев назад
Jimothy Cool can make a video about any Pokémon he wants to see more usage for in ADV and people will use it
@hiei49
@hiei49 10 месяцев назад
Don't forget buterfree lol
@leonardobarbosatelles2779
@leonardobarbosatelles2779 10 месяцев назад
Is there any more solid records of Haunter being used as a 2nd Gengar? A video on that topic would be epic
@appelofdoom8211
@appelofdoom8211 10 месяцев назад
I mean someone used duskull as a second dusclops in the adv revival tournament so its probably out there somewhere
@jimothycool
@jimothycool 10 месяцев назад
I saw BKC use it in a vid once I think
@hv433
@hv433 10 месяцев назад
In Stadium Rentals, Gengar is used as a 2nd Haunter, is that kind of a record...?
@mattzr1550
@mattzr1550 10 месяцев назад
You really really shouldnt
@azeria1
@azeria1 10 месяцев назад
Wolfy used a haunter and gengar once I think made a video on it as well
@senpai2.054
@senpai2.054 10 месяцев назад
"hey uhhh our smeargle lead is kinda not working out, how can we fix this?" "add another lead!"
@boop53
@boop53 10 месяцев назад
I really like vaporeon’s moveset its like the safest counter to banded or boosted gyarados in dpp ou
@WildBandit300
@WildBandit300 10 месяцев назад
Im happy the fishdog still gets some recognition. It had pretty solid niches all the way to gen 5 only to get killed by power creep and then butchered by internet memes.
@VJ-Vice
@VJ-Vice 10 месяцев назад
Roar on lead subpass vaporeon is also a very good option to counteract stuff like roar suicune. I saw mcmeghan use it on a cmpass team and it’s super good since you can cmpass to vaporeon and roar before the opponent and roar you out. The cmpass celebi is also a good switch in for lead zapdos since you’re dropping ice beam and using lefties with this set
@yoshineitor
@yoshineitor 10 месяцев назад
21 years later, people are still maturing the meta. Respect for Jimothy and all those guys labbing this stuff.
@apiratcc
@apiratcc 10 месяцев назад
You probably think of Vaporeon as a primary defensive Pokemon. It was definitely design that way.
@appelofdoom8211
@appelofdoom8211 10 месяцев назад
I mean in gen 1 it had an excellent special stat so it was probably meant as a bulky attacker
@Turtle-p8d
@Turtle-p8d 10 месяцев назад
With it's massive HP stat, utility movepool
@Claudehopper
@Claudehopper 10 месяцев назад
Wow a vaporeon video and not a single comment about its "compatibility"? Well done everyone.
@ursaminor2732
@ursaminor2732 10 месяцев назад
yet here you are
@vivian2798
@vivian2798 10 месяцев назад
Wow i actually did think of vaporeon as a primarily defensive pokemon how did you know
@TheSandwhichman108
@TheSandwhichman108 10 месяцев назад
I actually used a vaporeon in fire red. I desperately needed a water type and I didn’t want lapras or a starmie since I’d have to grind a fair amount of levels to get starmie caught up. So I chose vaporeon. It definitely held its own. Plus it got a pretty solid move set early on.
@hot-headedloosewire6878
@hot-headedloosewire6878 2 месяца назад
What's a best nature for a Vaporeon? In gen 3
@TheSandwhichman108
@TheSandwhichman108 2 месяца назад
@@hot-headedloosewire6878 If you’re going for stall the best nature would be a special def raising and physical atk lowering nature. Then put most of your ev’s into hp and special def. The remaining in either special atk or physical def. A toxic stall set is probably your best bet. With moves like amnesia,rest, toxic and hydro pump for a more stall focused build for example. For a more special attack focus build go for a special atk raising and physical atk lowering nature. Put your ev’s in hp and then split between special atk and special def. A more aggresive rest talk set with Surf and ice beam are a good option. Hydro pump is a good option but Surf is the better alternative if you prefer reliable stab over pure power.
@StriiderEclipse
@StriiderEclipse 10 месяцев назад
It’s good to see iron mugulis mellow out after discovering the natural wonders of the world, im proud
@nocsu4850
@nocsu4850 10 месяцев назад
How do I get my Vaporeon to crit 70% of Hydro Pumps like the one shown in the clips?
@hangoverbirdman6339
@hangoverbirdman6339 10 месяцев назад
Saaaaay the line, Bart...
@kheireddineattala1281
@kheireddineattala1281 10 месяцев назад
did you know that in terms of saying the line, Bart is the most compatible character to say it?
@maskofthedragon
@maskofthedragon 10 месяцев назад
This is insane...
@maskofthedragon
@maskofthedragon 10 месяцев назад
I can't wait for Iron Mugulus to start his reign of terror on the 3rd dimension!
@rotem6033
@rotem6033 10 месяцев назад
Video suggestion: what happened to TSS rock spam after gen3? Where does it stand in DPP onwards?
@andersolson44
@andersolson44 10 месяцев назад
TSS is usually outclassed by stealth rocks in gen 4, and there are a large amount of strong ground and steel mons in newer gens who just don't care about rock type attacks. 8 Ground Types in OU is a meme for a reason, and ground's been a strong type for a good 6 generations in a row now
@majorscrub2856
@majorscrub2856 10 месяцев назад
@@andersolson44 Yeah, the existence of stealth rock warps the meta, and in a roundabout way, makes rock types worse. With stealth rock, rock weak pokemon are disenfranchised from the metagame, while pokemon who are neutral, or resistant, actively gain value. Defensively, rock types are also pre much just worse steel types, with the main types they resist being pushed out by stealth rock, similarly.
@MatterMadeMoot
@MatterMadeMoot 10 месяцев назад
No, thank YOU Jimothy
@blunderpolicy
@blunderpolicy 10 месяцев назад
A little bit of Haunter gaming has been spotted in this Gen 3 OU video. This is surprising.
@catandfishfc
@catandfishfc 10 месяцев назад
More food for my lead Starmie team
@rainbowgg___
@rainbowgg___ 10 месяцев назад
It sure counters my fav suicune set [max hp/spd rest, sleep talk, cm, surf]
@hanswurst9120
@hanswurst9120 10 месяцев назад
Thank god Iron Mugulis hasn't come to Europe yet. I will celebrate safety alongside my fellow Europeans.
@VioletLunaChan
@VioletLunaChan 10 месяцев назад
Will Iron Fellow ever become a product too?
@codyfelts9531
@codyfelts9531 10 месяцев назад
Vaporeons secret... the forbidden lingerie.
@RecycleYourStyrofoam
@RecycleYourStyrofoam 10 месяцев назад
As an HO player, I would like to give some advice to anyone looking to join the archetype: dont mess up
@RecycleYourStyrofoam
@RecycleYourStyrofoam 10 месяцев назад
The person who replied to this comment is not Jimothy Cool. It is a spam bot. Please do not click on the channel, just report for spam. Thanks
@RecycleYourStyrofoam
@RecycleYourStyrofoam 10 месяцев назад
UPDATE: We got him lads
@hagetsuuu
@hagetsuuu 10 месяцев назад
gratz on 57k subs
@sudoornator3000
@sudoornator3000 10 месяцев назад
Winning is about using your favorite Pokémon
@the_PvP_expert
@the_PvP_expert 10 месяцев назад
Hey jim i saw you made a video on this team about a year ago expect with registeel , how come you tell us about it just now?
@superpancake4872
@superpancake4872 10 месяцев назад
You probably think of Vaporeon as a primarily Vaporeon Vaporeon
@2im36
@2im36 10 месяцев назад
bro went from 3k to 57k subs in one year, absolutely insane
@hairdeduction4337
@hairdeduction4337 10 месяцев назад
holy hell
@DusBeforeDawn2008
@DusBeforeDawn2008 10 месяцев назад
So you're saying its compatible in terms of the gen 3 metagame?
@blueskyalchemist623
@blueskyalchemist623 10 месяцев назад
This is insane
@tecul1
@tecul1 10 месяцев назад
zf used haunter. this is insane.
@midend
@midend 10 месяцев назад
any plans to ship the mug to sea?
@SamaelDionysus
@SamaelDionysus 10 месяцев назад
I mean it 𝘪𝘴 just as strong as Jolteon, after all!
@ctfunk
@ctfunk 10 месяцев назад
I too like Vaporeon
@hecorter3834
@hecorter3834 10 месяцев назад
"Hey guys, did you know that you probably think of Vaporeon as a primarily defensive Pokémon" *Looks at the special attack stat* yea about that..
@user-AADZ
@user-AADZ 10 месяцев назад
Funny bulky water type
@brimstoner982
@brimstoner982 10 месяцев назад
You probably think of Vaporeon as a primarily defensive pokemon
@haloeightYT
@haloeightYT 10 месяцев назад
Why This is Insane
@-_soy_-888
@-_soy_-888 10 месяцев назад
Get ready This comment section is going to get very degen very quickly
@subtodicerat8305
@subtodicerat8305 10 месяцев назад
dont talk about that copypasta. vaporeon is better than that
@immagns
@immagns 10 месяцев назад
That's cool but did you know that "Unfortunate" doesn't begin to describe my series, this game rewards blind luck and nothing else, I am beyond convinced at this point. After getting completely tooled by scheduling with my opponent changing times on me last minute and refusing to provide confirmation prior to the day of the match as to play times, losing this way somehow felt even worse than I had thought possible. My preparation was superior, my play was superior, and I lost, so I don't see a reason to continue engaging in an activity where what is within my control is overwhelmingly outweighed by what is not.
@nicocchi
@nicocchi 10 месяцев назад
Hey guys did you know that in terms of having funny jokes made around it, Vaporeon has fkin none
@MelonSeedOfficial
@MelonSeedOfficial 10 месяцев назад
Hey guys, did you know that in terms of human Pokémon compatibility Vaporeon is Probably thought of as a primarily defensive Pokémon
@switchbro6622
@switchbro6622 10 месяцев назад
Phishhhh
@pookiegaming75
@pookiegaming75 10 месяцев назад
The comments on this vid are gonna be insane
@DkKobaADV
@DkKobaADV 10 месяцев назад
so many unfunny references to a bad copypasta
@iamwilson6922
@iamwilson6922 10 месяцев назад
Vaporeon being a primarily defensive Pokemon is the second thing that I think about it
@IDESTROYER236
@IDESTROYER236 10 месяцев назад
*DID YOU KNOW THAT IN TERMS OF...*
@EnjoyGengar
@EnjoyGengar 10 месяцев назад
Vape nation
@Dankfort
@Dankfort 10 месяцев назад
Hey guys did you know that in terms of
@Ieozawa
@Ieozawa 10 месяцев назад
did you know?
@MattyHAM
@MattyHAM 10 месяцев назад
Hey guys, did you know that in terms of male human and female Pokémon breeding, Vaporeon is the most compatible Pokémon for humans? Not only are they in the field egg group, which is mostly comprised of mammals, Vaporeon are an average of 3”03’ tall and 63.9 pounds, this means they’re large enough to be able handle human d*cks, and with their impressive Base Stats for HP and access to Acid Armor, you can be rough with one.
@glassbead9339
@glassbead9339 10 месяцев назад
Hey guys, did you know that if you gave Carbink Prankster, it is possible for it to force out Iron Mugulis? Carbink typically runs two sets, Stealth Rock and Iron Defense, both of which benefit from Prankster.
@meinthefuture789
@meinthefuture789 10 месяцев назад
did you know in terms of...
@ShadowXeldron
@ShadowXeldron 10 месяцев назад
Truth be told, I don't actually think of Vaporeon as a defensive bulky water type... I think of it as an unfunny meme. I also associate it with Ice Beam; whatever you do don't do level caps in a FireRed Water monotype or you'll have to grind a Magikarp to level 20 to beat Misty and gamble it all on the slots for the Ice Beam TM in order to beat Erika. And don't get me started on the fact that Kabuto is only given out at level 5 in that game...
@cadesummers5866
@cadesummers5866 10 месяцев назад
People think that vaporeons best ability is water absorb but really it’s best one is the ability to bear human children
@nicoataiza7850
@nicoataiza7850 10 месяцев назад
I probably think of Vaporeon in terms of male human and female Pokemon breeding where Vaporeon is actually the most compatible Pokemon for humans.
@SendFoodz
@SendFoodz 10 месяцев назад
aww the way you say baton pass is so fun and British 🍵 🥐
@agiruda8380
@agiruda8380 10 месяцев назад
Has Iron Mugulis embarked on a journey of redemption? Will the power of nature and friendship set him straight? Have we been wrong all this time? Is there a larger lurking evil behind the scenes?
@mariokartwii6663
@mariokartwii6663 10 месяцев назад
It truly warms my heart to see that iron mugulis has discovered the wonders of nature ☺️
@shoogles_
@shoogles_ 10 месяцев назад
Vaporeon isn't just my favourite Eeveelution, it's one of my favourites of all time. It was the only Pokémon I could get consistently working back in DPP's Battle Tower, with Wish, Protect, Toxic, and Surf and I've loved it ever since. Always glad to see it carve out a niche for itself.
@AnarchoCatBoyEthan
@AnarchoCatBoyEthan 10 месяцев назад
man i love vaporeon. except not in that weird way lmao
@Discopope
@Discopope 10 месяцев назад
fishdog gang
@thisisdefinitelymyrealname
@thisisdefinitelymyrealname 10 месяцев назад
I've been messing around with the Kanto eeveelutions in ADV recently. So far Vaporeon is the only one I haven't had a lot of success with and haven't played too much. Jolteon is a horrifying lead with TWave + Sub to throw foes' off balance. This set also helps reveal what Blissey set foes use. Flareon walls Moltres all day and punishes Starmie and Gengar with Shadow Ball and Wish. It also denied a +2 DD Sala sweep with Quick Attack. I knew Vaporeon had some offensive utility-- compared to Suicune, Milotic, and Starmie, it has the highest SpA, but most of the time we end up thinking "Wish Sub Pass." ...But what if we combined all three?
@ToluElswordCEO
@ToluElswordCEO 10 месяцев назад
that hydro pump crit at 03:00 was nasty
@FlamingZelda3
@FlamingZelda3 10 месяцев назад
Can someone explain to me the competitive differences between gens 3 and 4 OU? I’ve played every other gen on showdown/Pokémon online
@techknight3753
@techknight3753 10 месяцев назад
Iron Mugulis redemption arc where they learn to embrace the beauty of nature???
@nibblerdoo
@nibblerdoo 10 месяцев назад
Dragon Dance Vaporeon: Am I a joke to you?
@BigfudgeRTN
@BigfudgeRTN 10 месяцев назад
No wonder I just saw 3 vap leads in the past hour lol
@armorbearer9702
@armorbearer9702 10 месяцев назад
Cool video! I am so glad Vaporeon has a niche in OU. I am a bit surprised Wish was never mentioned.
@goksir5845
@goksir5845 10 месяцев назад
i hope iron jugulis never finds out about the real world
@jimothycool
@jimothycool 10 месяцев назад
That would be a disaster.
@its_me_jamie
@its_me_jamie 10 месяцев назад
This is insane
@azeria1
@azeria1 10 месяцев назад
If only flareon could actually be good in anything like I don't think it's ever had a niche in uu or ou in almost any gen
@ThatGuyThai
@ThatGuyThai 10 месяцев назад
He can overheat baton pass...yeah there's not much I tried.
@theclew47
@theclew47 10 месяцев назад
Vaporeon. This thing's been bad-mouthed on the internet like crazy, yet still eaks out a niche as a bulky water in a lower tier. Or here, an early gen higher tier.
@AmberLB93
@AmberLB93 10 месяцев назад
Gen 3 OU has a modest power level and a low degree of overcentralization? Gen 3 OU is the polar opposite of Snorlaxused--I mean Gen 2 OU
@hot-headedloosewire6878
@hot-headedloosewire6878 2 месяца назад
So what's the best nature for a Vaporeon in gen 3?
@michaelmurphy1749
@michaelmurphy1749 10 месяцев назад
this setup is incredibly weak to blue offense with a calm mind roar Suicune lead, pretty much falls apart even if they switch to Gengar immediately
@haipydragon5965
@haipydragon5965 10 месяцев назад
You probably think of vaporeon as a primarily defensive Pokémon
@charlesf.9904
@charlesf.9904 10 месяцев назад
The money got different, cause of what I’m spending.
@danriley3770
@danriley3770 10 месяцев назад
Normally I would get an Iron Mugulus but I fear for my safety. (I don’t live in any of the countries with access to the merch)
@hiei49
@hiei49 10 месяцев назад
Couldnt zapdos hp grass vaporeon instead of tbolting on turn 1? Assuming its not hp ice
@jayscott9882
@jayscott9882 10 месяцев назад
The "jimothy cool effect" is real. The whole ladder was filled with this team yesterday 🤣
@pitchkinker
@pitchkinker 10 месяцев назад
Will the beauty of nature make iron mugulus less evil?
@FaceD0wnDagon
@FaceD0wnDagon 10 месяцев назад
I was about to say, it probably has to do with passing 101 HP subs, and I was right! :D
@cobrachicken1869
@cobrachicken1869 10 месяцев назад
Uhh... Yeah. When I see Vaporeon, I think of a primarily defensive Pokemon. Yup.
@noble0155
@noble0155 10 месяцев назад
i used to baton pass with blaziken. bulk up, sword dance, hone claws, whatever i felt like passing with the speed boost. drain punch for recovery if needed
@0001aardvark
@0001aardvark 10 месяцев назад
Blaziken doesn’t learn drain punch???
@chess_fella
@chess_fella 10 месяцев назад
Vaporeon has some other famous uses.
@nightmare_1337
@nightmare_1337 10 месяцев назад
Yes, I think of it as a primarily defensive Pokemon. What else an I supposed to think. It‘s not like the internet has shaped it‘s perception in any other kind of direction.
@aritra2116
@aritra2116 10 месяцев назад
Hey guys, did you know that in terms of making the same repetitive joke, the Pokemon community is the most adept?
@vez3834
@vez3834 10 месяцев назад
This is insane
@calebcalhoun9847
@calebcalhoun9847 10 месяцев назад
I primarily think of Vaporeon as a *Victim*
@settrasurfs1780
@settrasurfs1780 10 месяцев назад
Vaporeon named Oh no
@lulugaj5859
@lulugaj5859 10 месяцев назад
you should have started the video with "did you know...?" for no reason
@LosFloresLunares
@LosFloresLunares 10 месяцев назад
You don’t want to know I primarily think about vaporeon mr cool
@joejones
@joejones 10 месяцев назад
6:10 what is this lie? Every swampert is max spdef + max hp now way youre doing 75% on mixgross Mixgross cant kill blissey w/o booming. what are you gonna do about mence and dos? you need ice punch and you need boosting. AND you need the EQ. No mash? Yea right.
@jimothycool
@jimothycool 10 месяцев назад
You're making things up.
@G1mpG1mp
@G1mpG1mp 10 месяцев назад
do u know in terms off.......
@Isol8__
@Isol8__ 10 месяцев назад
Please don't 😭
@Submissive-Soul
@Submissive-Soul 10 месяцев назад
BUH TAWN not bat on idk why people can't say baton pass and truant like TRUE AUNT its TRUE ANT ive heard people say it like TRAWNT lmao
@jimothycool
@jimothycool 10 месяцев назад
That's vital
@Submissive-Soul
@Submissive-Soul 10 месяцев назад
@@jimothycool so is iron mugulis
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