The Messed Up Origins of Peter Pan | Disney Explained - Jon Solo 

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"he gets lost boys by luring them away from their parents at public parks" he W H A T

wendy:I love you Peter Peter pan: u are like a mother to me #motherzoned

wendy: i'll love you forever peter peter: stfu and read bedtime stories

Kids: *Ages up* Pan: Your free trial of life has expired

I learned a version where Peter Pan is the villain. So, he forces the lost boys to stay with him, or he'll punish them. Hook was a lost boy, but wanted to grow up. Peter didn't like that, so he chopped off Hook's hand. Once Hook grows up, he comes back to kill Peter as revenge. I didn't learn anything else besides that, but I wanna know if anyone else was told this.

The comment section is filled with different versions of Peter Pan 🤣🤣🤣

Am I the only one who remembers when the mermaids say: “We’re sorry peter” *”we were only trying to drown her :3”*

another really messed up part about jm barriers childhood: after his brother died, barries sister encouraged him to act like his brother. he took on his brothers mannerisms and adopted his personality, all in the hope that it would help their mother cope better. his mother even had him dress up in his dead brother clothes. he took on the persona of his dead brother up until he got too old to physically resemble his brother. because of this, he lost a large portion of his own identity which is part of why he became obsessed with children and eternal youth (hence why peter pan never grows up).

Captain Hook was a symbol of adulthood. The crocodile with the ticking clock was his greatest fear because it reminded him that time was finite and death was forever pursuing him. Tick tock, tick tock. The crocodile was always there. He knew, that at some point, the crocodile (death) would eventually claim him. In mythology, Pan was a shepard and a god of the wild. The Lost Boys were his flock, which he guarded jealously. He was prone to kill anyone who threatened him, including his followers. His flute of reeds (seen in the film) contained the soul of a female who would not heed to his beckon, so he transformed her into a reed. Not knowing which one was her, he fashioned it into an instrument that he always kept with him. When Wendy wished to return to London, this angered him because she defied his wishes. Tinkerbell could be interpreted as an externalization of his hostility since she openly threatened Wendy. Pan was prone to anger. His temper created “panic”. Neverland, the lost boys and even the “Indians” represent the untamed wilderness that Pan ferociously protected. That interpretation may not have been the author’s intent. I can’t really comment on that since I don’t know much about him. However, the above has always been my understanding of the story.

You left out the part where J.M. Barrie's mother used to dress him up in his dead brother's clothing...

I actually always loved the scene in “Hook” where Wendy was being honored for her child care foundation and various men (presumably former lost boys) stand up one by one to show her respect. She really became more of a savior than a mother to them.

Once Upon A Time really explains about Peter Pan accurately... 👏 Just like what Captain Hook said, "He's a bloody demon..."

I heard Peter Pan kidnapped children and took them to neverland, but once the children grew up Peter killed them. Captain Hook was trying to save them from being killed but Peter made it look like he was the enemy.

Fun Fact: J.M. Barrie was originally going to have Peter Pan be the bad guy. But then Captain Hook was introduced, so he made Hook the bad guy. This is the reason why it didn't surprise me when OUAT made Peter Pan evil.

I have always thought of Peter Pan to be kind of tragic. He loved Wendy but she had to go back. Wendy grew up, had kids, and lived a full happy life but Peter will never get that chance. I have always sensed a feeling of loneliness in the ending of Peter Pan.

Peter Pan has no flaws in his acting. He invites children to neverland, makes them think Captain Hook is their enemy, and eventually if the children aren’t freed from his control, they will be stunned to never age, in fact, the children there could be like 200 years old but nothing ever changes. Captain Hook and his crew were old men because they weren’t affected by the magic and they will do everything they can to rescue those children from Peter pan’s control before it’s too late. I feel so sorry for the people who watched the movie multiple times and can’t think about the plot’s true intentions.

A baby flying around 😂

Don't forget to mention that Peter Davies grew up embarrassed of Peter Pan, became an alcoholic, and killed himself in the 60's.

The mermaids were always creepy to me. "We were only trying to drown her"

This could use a horror movie reboot. Peter Pan: Escape from Neverland. At the begining Peter offers to take the kids on an adventure, which they excitedly agree upon. After arriving they all have fun until Wendy starts noticing the oddities in the Lost Boys that follow him: why does one of them look differently than he did yesterday, why are they all kids, why did one of them say a boys name and the others quickly hushed him?... Despite this she finds herself becoming deeply infatuated with Peter, but strangely every time he holds her, she hears a strange female voice telling her to run, until Peter removes his Flute of Reeds in annoyance and puts it in his room before bolting the door. As one of the lost boys 18th birthday approaches, he's unreasonably scared. Just before his birthday the pirates attack, appearing the villains at first, as they kidnap the soon to be 18 year old and the lost boys pursue to rescue him. Wendy was told to stay at the base, but having recently built a friendship with the boy who was kidnapped, she dresses as a boy and follows, knowing Peter with his nativity wont realize the difference. As chaotic combat ensues aboard the ship, she follows Peter's shadow into Hooks cabin, wherein to her surprise, Hook is acting quite fatherly, trying to reassure and calm down the boy. But just as Hook is about to reveal the truth, Pan's shadow creeps up behind the boy and slits his throat. Hook draws his sword and Wendy flees. Back at the base, Wendy tries to get her brothers and return home, only her brothers have already been indoctrinated and don't want to leave. Tinkerbell overhears Wendy trying to convince them to leave, and reports to Peter, who takes Wendy to the -mermaids- (lets call them what they are) Sirens, to teach Wendy a lesson, letting them almost drown her before he saves her at the last minute and tells her that she shouldn't think of leaving anymore, before locking her in his room. While she is sitting there crying, his Flute of Reeds glows before a female ghost appears, and explains that she was the previous woman Peter brought to be the mother of his lost boys, until she too, realized Peter's evil deeds and rebelled. The ghost tells her to take her brothers to visit the natives. The natives, who on the surface have a good relationship with Peter and a bad one with the pirates, actually sneak lost boys to the pirates. Not trusting Wendy, Tinkerbell secretly follows her. The native princess consoles Wendy, before her father and their warriors escort her to the hidden cove where they secretly meet with the pirates. Having learned of the natives treachery, Tinkerbell waits for the chief and warriors to leave, at which point she coats the princess in fairy dust, raising her into the sky, before blowing away the dust and letting her fall to her death. She then flys to get Peter. Along the way, her brothers argue they don't want to leave, which slows them down. The chief and one of the warriors pick her brothers up and throw them over their shoulder, saying Peter is evil they don't have time to explain now, but everything will make sense later. Her youngest brother refuses to listen however, and takes the warriors knife and stabs him in the neck, shouting "liar, traitor!" Unfortunately for him, they are walking aside a cliff when this happens and both the dead warrior and the brother he was carrying fall to the rocks below, where the brother dies. The older brother now wants revenge for his younger brother, but decides this isn't the time or place. Hook arrives at the cove and the chief successfully completes the hand off, but just as he is about to leave, Peters shadow appears behind him and stabs him in the back. At the same time the lost boys launch a surprise attack at the warriors and pirates, killing many. But even so Hook, Wendy, and her eldest brother make it aboard his ship and set sail. Hook offers them a life as pirates, but Wendy wants to go home. To do that however, they have to return to Peter's base and kidnap Tinkerbell. Wendys brother, who had a "change of heart" after learning the truth, accompanies Wendy and Hook on this mission. But once they reach he base he shouts to wake the lost boys. A fight ensues that results in their capture. After Wendy asks her brother 'why', he says he doesn't believe them, the only thing he knows is his brother is dead and someone has to pay for it. Captain Hook is tied to a poll near the swamp, and Wendy is held forcibly to watch as the crocodile approaches him. As the crocodile nears Hook, he hears the pocket watch inside the crocodile ticking and has a flashback to when he was a lost boy himself. He had a prized pocket watch given to him by his father, which he would look at with longing, each time he asked Peter to go back home, and was refused by him. Peter got angry and threw his pocket watch into the swamp. Hook went into the swamp to retrieve it, but his hand, and the watch it held, were eaten by the crocodile. Peter tells him its good the watch is gone, and to let the lost hand be a lesson, its time to forget his father, he has a new family now. Hook then runs away from the lost boys to join a nearby pirate crew. The flashback ends, and Peter tells him he can finally be reunited with his memories of his dear father, and the crocodile eats him. Realizing Peter's fear/hatred is that of growing up, and playing on his ignorance, she works her way into his bed where she takes his first time, and then after tells him he is an adult now. His expression changes from pleasure to horror and his shadow strangles himself to death, before flying across the ground and into the body of Wendy's brother. With Peter dead, Wendy runs to her brother to try once more to talk sense into him, but he says she has been naughty and Tinkerbell knocks her out. Later we see her brother, dressed as Peter Pan, placing a Thimble next to his flute, with Wendy's voice now joining that of the previous unfortunate girl. Her brother then looks at Tinkerbell and says they need to go to London and find a new mother.

Fun fact the reason why the Crocodile is always trying to eat Captain Hook is because captain hook was one the lost boys that grew up so peter pan cut off his hand and the crocodile enjoyed it and wanted more.

Someone once told me that peter takes kids to “neverland” and once they grow up he kills them. Someone also told me that he takes kids to heaven and that’s why they never grow up so... Idk

I always thought the story of Peter Pan was to give some hope and solace to kids who have had siblings kidnapped.

Peter Pan’s first appearance as a baby in “The Little White Bird” has him flying with fairies in a park at night only to find his mother holding another baby and the window locked when he tried to return. I always believed it was revealed that Peter Pan was dead in the ending and his mother was holding his lifeless body or was kidnapped by the fairies and replaced with a changeling.

Dang all the comment sections be making Peter Pan sound like such a creepy demon😭😭😂😂

There is a book called "lost boy" and Peter isn't exactly the friendliest, also lost boys die and he just doesn't care.

This is absolutely INSANE! As a child I remember seeing this film and thinking “I’m missing something “. Well, our friend Jon just filled us in a little.

There's nothing wrong with an adult and a child being good friends perse, but as soon as the adult is trying to get the kid to keep it a secret, that's at least slightly suspicious if not outright cause for concern.

This channel's name should be" ruining your childhood with Jon"

I had heard that Peter is dead and now an angel or ghost that's why he never grows up and the lost boys are souls of dead children he has collected 😱

Dang... people really didn’t know that old stories were actually dark/messed up? Disney just makes the stories kid friendly. If Disney made the movies how the stories were told and young children watch them, they would probably have nightmares (lol).

I love how Jon Solo tells his stories, he just makes everything interesting.

_"You're gonna want to watch this video all the way through"_ Me: You should just watch all the videos to the end since it's filled to the brim with information

I just realized that when it comes to memory, Peter Pan is basically like Dory from Finding Nemo!

5:15 "It turns out that a magical child with the memory of a goldfish. Not the best at raising children" -- Jon Solo.

I never understood how hook killed his own Pirates so easily with a gun but the crocodile was always there and no one ever tried to shoot it.

Solo: "he lures away lost boys in public parks" How I think he does that: HeY kIdS wAnT sOmE cAnDy-

Yeah Peter's biggest flaw is that he's so oblivious that he doesn't understand the concepts of good and evil, or the difference between reality and games

This made me realize how close the 2003 peter pan live-action film is to the original story. Down to every detail.

I too find Barrie's conduct towards the Davies children questionable. Due to the unfortunate experiences of our society as a whole, Barrie's words and deeds would not go unnoticed in the 21st century.

The only thing I really remember about the book is how the Darling children have no problem killing folks, as if the inability to tell reality from make believe Peter has is contagious as they spend time in Neverland.

In JM Barrie's original novel, Peter Pan made a deal with a demon (the shadow) who would kidnap children for him. Upon puberty, about 13, Peter would cull the herd to keep his eternal youth. Captain Hook was a spaniard whose daughter Peter had kidnapped and killed, then taunting Hook by dropping her necklace back to him while he grieved over her. Hook eventually found a way to Neverland, a kind of demonic dimension where only Peter Pan never aged, by stealing an artifact. Neverland was also a place where everything there, from mermaids to crocodiles to pixies, would try to kill children, all wanting to gain youth. Some of Hook's crew were former, rescued lost boys while some are like Hook, grieving, revenge-filled parents.

One thing you're leaving out that was in the play Captain Hook was revealed to be Peter Pan's grown-up Self. When he tricks Peter into starting to become adult he starts to become Captain Hook and later on Wendy has to bring him to his senses with a kiss.

“I love you Peter” “Your like my mother Wendy *_*”

What if James saw himself as Peter pan-someone slowly luring boys away from there family to make one of his own in order to account for the lost time he lost with his brother. But ended up creating an unhealthy attachment to the boys wishing that their innocence could last as his was taken at such a young age. Overall I think james is creepy, and I feel like some of those red flags could have been seen a mile away. I feel like the reason this was recommended so heavily is because we knew something dark lies behind the surface ot maybe because we thought it would be interesting, I dunno.

Its sad to say but the real Peter hated being associated with the play/book. He turned to alcohol and committe suicide in the 1960s. Nico was the only kid to have lived full a life and liked Peter Pan. The while famiy's story is one big tragedy really.

i'm just writing this, not exactly referring to this video, but generally for all of jon's videos: the more i watch these videos, the more i realize i'm not only learning the origins of these stories, but more of HISTORY itself. when he goes into the detail regarding the time it was written and the different written pieces from the sources he researched, there's SO MUCH we are processing as viewers in terms of the language of those times, the culture of the area the source came from, what was the general mentality and beliefs of the people at that time, heck even the politics of those times! it's like watching a historical tv show like game of thrones, reign, without actually watching it, and no sugarcoating, just straight facts. jon, in other words, you've basically become a low-key source of history for us as well! thank you!!

I think the fear of modern day child predators makes it easy to find misconduct where there may not be.

Someone told me that Peter pan was a kidnapper who killed kids but captain hook tried to save them

Wendy : *takes on role of mother* Wendy : *Doesn't even have her period lol*

I LOVE this book. I cry at the end whenever i’ve read it.

When I was a kid I got a version of Peter Pan stuck in my head that I’ve never known where it came from but I think I hybrid the story of the Penguin from Batman. Anyway, I remember peters mother leaving him in his stroller in the park in the cold until he “went to never land” at the very beginning. I’ve always thought of neverland as limbo.

I personally believe that Peter Pan was written as a euphemism for childhood death, owning to the part where peter said that he ran away the day he was born, and he describes the lost boys as "children who fall out of their prams when their nurses are looking the other way." If a kid dies, and they're under the care of a nurse, that nurese is gonna say they dont know what happened. Also, all the adults in Neverland are made out to be bad guys, which is how kids tend to see adults. Neverland=child heaven, Peter=a sort of Grim Reaper for kids, ushering their souls to Neverland paradise, where they'll never grow up (because they're dead)

I love what once upon a time did with peter pan, neverland and especially hook

A creepy fact he left out is the fact the Davies boys mostly hated Peter Pan and how most of them died tragically. George killed in WW1, sniper. Jack died of lung disease. Michael drowned. Peter committed suicide. Only Nico, the youngest, died of old age.

This was pretty much the version I grew up knowing. Its almost identical to the musical Peter Pan. I had the VHS recording with Mary Martin. There are a few little details here and there they didn’t use but I think the biggest shocker is killing off the lost boys and making them “fit”.

"That's a whole another level of friendzone" omg I laughed so hard!

Omg all these versions are ruining my first childhood crush 😭😭😭😭

Peter Pan even kidnaps other toons and does illegal cosmetic surgery on them, and he even forced the toons to star in bootleg films.

i love peter pan, i liked the disney version as a kid, but it just became more interesting when i first heard the original story. and my favorite book of all time is probably christina henry's "lost boy" which is kinda like a prequel to peter pan, basically it's about how hook became hook. another *amazing* reinterpretation is "the child thief" by brom (which is only loosely based on peter pan tbh, but brom skillfully combines the structure of barrie's work with lots of fantasy, celtic/scottish mythology and his own twists and ideas). both definitely worth reading if you're a fan the boy wouldn't grow up :)

Tinker bell was always there’s for Peter Pan And Peter? He chose Wendy darling Edit: guys I’m just quoting a quote pls don’t attack me, this is a McDonald’s drive thru

Hold up Wendy had a daughter named JANE.... JANE from TARZAN!!!!

I just watched this and I’m fascinated in the story. Definitely going to look into it more. Also you asked for 5K subscribers when this came out glad to see you’re over 1 million

Watching the disney version and especially the parts where the lost boy, reminds me of my childhood. When they all talk amongst themselves, they start fighting and wrestling. Thats how it was with me and my 2 bros. Fishguts and pixy dust, blackeyes from stones in mudpies, and learning to solve problems with punches. Its a pirates life for me.:.:

Wendy:I love you Peter pan:im 110 years old Wendy: /:(

Just being honest this would be a great horror movie

A few little nuggets to add to this, J.M. Barrie got the inspiration for the setting of Neverland, from The Arboretum in Nottingham, England, My home town, as he was working at The Nottingham Journal, a newspaper company. The building, located within the 'old' part of Nottingham, is now a shop, but the original brickwork is still there, with a plaque stating this is where he worked. Some of the features of The Arboretum found it's way into the story. The part where the kids are flying out of their bedroom window, it is said that he may have got his inspiration from looking across the Park Estate towards the underground tunnel, in Nottingham. The Park Estate, a gated community in the heart of Nottingham, was once the hunting grounds for the Castle. Also, the part of Peter's Shadow may have came from when J.M. Barrie walked down Clifton Grove, a long and wooded path that lead from the town area to the old Clifton Village, and ending at the Clifton Family's Manor Home, Clifton Hall. It's said the an urchin was running round and a friend someone to Barrie, What's he doing? Looking for his shadow. No one knows if it's true or not, but the Grove has been known to be a path that has been used for hundreds of years to the present day, so who knows.

*Geez this makes Johnny Depp’s Finding Neverland more sinister, and that Once Upon A Time version’s Peter Pan is the closest adaption*

Peter Pan was a product of its time and place, which makes it hard for us to understand. I'd say it combines the earlier Victorian idea of children as "innocent" with the reality that even "innocent" children can do violent things. (Peter and the Lost Boys kill people. Period.) We're very attuned and repulsed by physical violence; people at that time were not, really. (Remember that battle was often still portrayed as romantic and heroic rather than the reality of carnage that WWI showed it to be. ) People at that time also did not search out child molesters under every tree and shrub. Sometimes the interactions that adults at that time had with children cause us to flinch: men having little girls (and some not-so-little girls) sit on their laps, men encouraging children to kiss them, and the whole fad of having children photographed in disheveled clothing. All of this makes us think the worst, but at that time these things were viewed in a completely different light....even if some child molesters took advantage of this. Actually, rather than Peter being a child-predator, it's the tension in his relationship with Wendy (is she his mother, his love-interest, or both?) that's more interesting. As for the "redskins" stereotype, remember these were English children. They might have read a book or lurid dime novel about Native Americans, seen romanticized pictures, or perhaps seen a wild west show, but to them the Native Americans culture was simply something wild, exciting, exotic, and extremely far-removed from dreary weather, healthy oatmeal, lessons, a play-nursery, and their governess or nurse. The "indians" and the "pirates" in Peter Pan are fictionalized, childish stereotypes (just as GI Joe is a fictionalized stereotype of a soldier), simply shadow-puppet enemies against which the boys can have adventures and play-act manly qualities of bravery and prowess in battle, just as Wendy play-acts being a mother to the Lost Boys and a potential love-interest for either Peter or Captain Hook.

my theory is peterpan: angel neverland: heaven captain hook: reality lost boys: suicide victims idk tho...

I LOVED THIS VIDEO great job John Solo! Keep up the good work!

Theory: what if Captain Hook was a lost boy that Peter guarded maybe hook was lucky enough to run away from Peter Pan and become a adult so that’s why Peter Pan fed him

You missed the part where Peter returned to england but Wendy was too old, so he fell in love with her grand daughter, Moira. And that's when he decided he would never go back to neverland, because he wanted to be a daddy. Peter was then brought into the great ormond street hospital by "granny Wendy" until she found American parents who would adopt him. He was only 12, nearly 13! And that's when he became known as Peter Banning. He spent the 1960's as an accountant, and by the year 1991 he was Peter Banning: Attorney at Law - spearheading a company that specializes in mergers and aquisitions (while dabbling a bit in real estate). Now middle aged, Peter is a cold selfish man who drinks too much, is obsessed with success, and rund and hides from his wife and children. It has been 10 years between visits for Peter and granny Wendy, but him and his family travel on to England (although Peter hates to fly) to attend a ceremony for the board of trustees of the great ormond street hospital, which is dedicsting a wing of the building to Wendy. While Peter, Wendy, and Moira are out for the evening, hook kidnaps his 2 children Jack (10) and Maggie (8), in an attempt to Lure Peter back to Neverland for the final duel. (For you see, Hook killed that cunning crocodile, stuffed him, and turned him into a quiet clock). There's only one problem: He is Peter Pan alright, but he's been away from neverland so long, his mind's been pacified - HE'S FORGOTTEN EVERYTHING!

I watched this video yesterday, and had to read a bit more on the subject. Now, in the middle of the night, I woke up and everything seemed clear to me. You left out the fact J.M. Barrie was described as an asexual person by many, including Nico Llewellyn Davies. Nico and Michael were the closest ones to "uncle Jim", so he ought to know. As to the letter to Michael: I think it's a metaphor. This is what my brains had cooking during the night: candle stands for a friend. Just like stars and lamp posts in more recent ones: they don't shorten the way, but light it up. If a candle was burning bad or crooked, it wouldn't light very well and on the other hand, drip. Of being greasy: at that time, at least in Finland which is my home country, things were like this: wax candles were rare. They were better and more expensive, so they had them mostly in churches. If you hadn't got enough money, you would make your own candles out of grease. It didn't light that we'll and smelled a bit bad, but you had light. So, basically J.M. Barrie is telling Michael: I'm one of your friends and happy to be, though I suck at it. And what comes to post scriptum: he writes to a child who is one of five and used to being just one of the gang. Saying this makes him feel special. It might also be uncle Jim feel a bit guilty to have favourites among them, so he adds: don't tell anyone. I also find this part a bit childish, which correlates with my image of Barrie. He knows how child's mind works, and is actually closer to it than being an adult. In this letter he says to a fellow child: I'm a bit bad friend, but you are one special friend to me, and that's our secret. Let me tell you a secret: it's the way 7-year-olds make secrets all over the world. All day and every day. I would like to say case closed. But I'd like your comments on this?

This is my favourite since I was 7. I often rewatched before I go to bed. I also often to have some dreams, I was flying with Peter and Wendy in the Neverland.

*OMG* I used to watch you all the time and then for some rsn I stopped and completely forgot ab you but then i saw this thumbnail and decides to click and as soon as I heard that intro music all of the memories came rushing back and my mouth just went wide open cuz I got so exited😁😁😁

I mean all you have to do is watch once upon a time to know how creepy Peter Pan is

Other than its origins, one interesting thing about Peter Pan is how adults and children viewed him. Adults saw him as a bully and a mean character. Children saw him as a model to follow, a hero and leader - all around fun. I guess that the perception we acquire from newly gained experiences either allows us to gauge thinga better or completely ruins that innocense... Or both.

Always love your stuff Jon

As a native, growing up watching peter pan, my little 5 year old mind was like "what kind of indians are those? Must be a different tribe" 😂 i was bullied for being mixed with hopi and navajo and the stereotypes between two different tribes so i thought that "indian" stereotype was an entirely different nation

I once heard a scary version of this when I was a kid. It basically said that Peter was some kind of demon and the Darling girls were cursed to be visited/lured away from their family by him every generation.

Disney has always taken classic stories that were kind of weird or dark in their own right and turned them into more upbeat cartoons, but despite how much I love them, none of them really capture the real flavor of the stories because they take a lot of the edge out.

Oh my gosh! At 1:24, you reference a play from 1905 starring Maud Adams. Photos of this real-life actress inspired the movie "Somewhere in Time," which if you have not seen, please put it on your "must see" list, John. Also, you can google pictures of her and see what she looked like. She was a classic beauty for all ages!

You forgot the part where Captain Hook and the pirates actually find the Lost Boys’ hideout and plan to make a poisoned cake for the lost boys and fails

I'm surprised he never mentioned the movie Hook, which seemed to take a lot of stuff from the books. Peter's origin story was pretty much the White bird story where fairies came and took him from his cradle. He also found bars on his windows when he tried to go back home. At least one of the Lost Boys went home with Wendy and grew old, and Wendy did start an orphanage/children's hospital. Peter did forget about Wendy and came back to find her old, the difference being that he _married_ her granddaughter instead of taking her to Neverland. He also forgot about his children for a while when he reverted back to Peter Pan. And he did serve the Lost Boys imaginary food. I'm pretty sure Ruffio, at least, was an invention of the 90s. XD

I seem to remember Peter saying that the lost boys fell out of their pram and appeared Neverland, nothing about Kensington Gardens. And that when Peter rescues everyone, he only ends up with them in the cabin of the ship because he spooks the pirates and incites them to throw the kids into the cabin to eliminate a "ghost."

There is a biography of J.M. Berrie that the author interviewed the youngest Lewellyn-Davies son (Nico) multiple times before he passed away and he always said the relationship was never inappropriate and he remained close with Berry until he died. In the letter he probable meant not to tell his brothers and the clothes he said he wished he could she him wear it not change into it. People want there to be something sinister in the relationship so they look for it.

On the original version there is a place called “Nowhere land” where Peter takes the lost boys who grow up

I heard that Peter had the habit of changing sides. Sometimes he'd get bored and fight the other side of the fight out of nowhere just for fun. I think it was my brother that told me but I likely misunderstood what he said.

I love your channel keep up the great stuff!

You should do Hunchback of Notre Dame! I know the movie itself is dark but the original story is also really dark

The forgetfulness of Peter Pan could be the author's way of describing dissociative episodes consistent with someone who has their own terrible trauma. Interesting information!

It is an interesting pattern that fairy tales usually began as stories that were dark enough to give Edgar Allen Poe a good shudder but gradually became sanitized after the Victorian period when Freud came on the scene and it was no longer cool to tell children that goblins hid under their beds. Barrie sounds like he had urges for sure but did he act on them? The whole obsession with a particular demographic that was allegedly triggered by the loss of his brother is very much like the trigger for Humbert Humbert's obsession with girls in their tweens and early teens after a girl he loved died at that age when he was a boy in "Lolita."

The original title of Peter Pan was Bad Mothers. Maud Adams, the 1st actress to play Peter Pan, was the inspiration for the character Elise McKenna from the book Bid Time Return by Richard Matheson and the film Somewhere In Time, based on the novel, starring Christopher Reeve, Jane Seymour and Christopher Plummer. Maud Adams was the darling of the college girl set and was America's most beloved actress of her day, known for her generosity and kindness. She starred in other Barrie plays such as The Little Gypsy and Major Barbara. Adams and Barrie corresponded for years but Adams burnt the letters shortly before her death. The role of Peter Pan has traditionally been played by a woman, most famously by Mary Martin who held the role at age 42.

I have never seen Peter Pan the movie nor ever read the story. I came here curious because I have been following stories on Michael Jackson and he keeps bringing up Peter Pan. There is so much irony here and I am really creeped out right now.

That’s a whole nother level of friend zone

Peter Pan is one of my favourite stories of all time in fact I have grown up in the town where J.M.Barrie was very first inspired to write the story of Peter Pan and also where he went to high school at least for the first few years I am obsessed with the museum in fact I’m there whenever I can be 😊❤️ xx

Did you know, the name Wendy was made up just for the story. There had never been a recorded person named Wendy before.

I read Barrie's sutobiography. He wrote this well before Freudian selfconciouslness. His older brother was favoured by his mother, and when the boy was killed in that accident, it broke his mother's heart. In an attempt to cheer her up, he dressed in his brother's clothes and crept into his mother's room. She said, "is it you??", and James replied, "No, it's only me." Anyway, James became very successful in London. However, his mother never honoured him for this, or even thanked him for the money he sent to her. Awful. .