The Mets Are a MESS 

Will the Mets be fine?

the mets have to overcome the marlins before even worrying about the braves

This is what happens when you build a team from the top down. The few good players you sign to big contracts have to produce because there's nothing behind them. Last year they produced but not this year. The Mets are basically the east coast version of the Angels. Hell, they even hired their old general manager.

bro even forgot to mention jose quintana who is getting paid 13M this year and will get another 13M next year. he hasn’t thrown a pitch for the mets yet.

Urinatingtree’s “Meet the Mets: 2023 Edition” is about to be a real banger🔥🔥

Mets fan here. If I'm being honest with myself, we were a fluke in 2022. If you look at our record post September 1st, we went 18-13 (54.5%) against by far the easiest part of our schedule. Pre-September 1st we went 83-48 (63.4%). There was clearly a decline at the end of the year and this carried into 2023. I liked what we did with the starting pitching. I think Carrasco is a dependable, albeit below average arm. I thought Peterson would continue to be a versatile above average pitcher with a lot of upside, which obviously hasn't panned out. I can't believe Megill still hasn't taken that next step to becoming a competent major league starter. Verlander and Max have suddenly gone from great to average in the span of 7 months. Ultimately, we got very unlucky with our starters and this has put a lot of pressure on a top heavy bullpen. Ottavino and Robertson have been brutally overworked and are gassed at this point. Drew Smith and Jeff Brigham are fine. Stephen Nogosek and Dominic Leone make me want to drink bleach. So on our entire $150 million pitching staff we have about 3 average arms and a bunch of garbage outside of that. The lineup has some players of excellence. We've lost a few very high scoring games. 13-10 @ Atlanta, 11-10 @ Colorado, and 10-7 @ Colorado in just the past 2 weeks. This offense can put runs on the board, but rely on a couple of players to make that happen. Alonso has been great, but he doesn't get on base consistently enough to be considered the clear cut best 1st baseman in the NL. McNeil is in a slump, but should bounce back. Lindor is a gold glove candidate, but he's been abysmal with his bat. Nimmo has been awesome in the field and at the plate. I wish he had a little more power, but I'm cool with a gold glove CF that can sit around the .290-.300 BA range. Baty cannot field as a MLB 3rd baseman, but he's got a solid bat and I think he can become a very good hitter. Canha and Escobar are a little below average. Vientos hasn't shown me anything to make me believes he can be an everyday starter at some point, although maybe if we DH Baty and start Vientos at 3rd base my opinion will change. Alvarez will be the best catcher in baseball at some point in the future, even better than Adley. Marte needs to retire. Vogelbach gets a lot of hate and the media is starting to really get to him. His numbers have tumbled, but I think it's more mental than anything. Overall, this team isn't bad, but we are very mediocre and that won't cut it considering we are paying $500 million this year. We are literally going into the red on the books and this team may not even make the postseason. It's extremely frustrating cause it feels like we have nowhere to go now from here. We're basically stuck until Verlander and Scherzer's contracts expire and we can afford some relievers. We've actually overpayed so much that we are going to have to go moneyball mode like the Rays and A's despite being in the NY market. It feels like I'm stuck on the train tracks and I can see the headlights in the distance. I'm basically just waiting for the train to hit me, which will be when the Marlins take the last NL WC spot from the Mets. Thanks for allowing me to vent...

What we're seeing is another chapter of LOLMETS being written. When the Marlins are ahead of you in the standings, something is going terribly wrong.

You could do a video on the madness that is the AL East at the moment. The forth place Jays would be leading the AL & NL Central which is nuts. They could conceivably take up every single wild card spot come September if the Astros can't keep up.

I'm a die-hard Met fan since 1978. Any question about is x-player really worth X amount of millions of dollars?...That's Steve Cohen's problem. He can afford it. I'm sure the Mets appreciate my money when I renew my 20 game plan in the winter. But, the amount of hot dogs I would have to consume to get even close to what Max Scherzer makes in a week, Joey Chestnut couldn't even handle. I am not as narcissistic as most fans who think they alone are paying Francisco Lindor to strike out. No, that's not your money, Ralph. That's Cohen's hedge fund profits. Drink your Coors Light.

But but… throwing money at players makes a team better instantly!

Like I said in the no hitter watch yesterday, I love the content you’ve been making. Keep up the great work!

A lot of the teams that threw big money away to get better have all been mediocre or downright awful (aforementioned Mets, my Phillies, the Padres ... even the Dodgers are only 9 games over .500). I don't know if it will get better and all of the annoyingly overperforming "bad" teams - like the Marlins - will eventually regress to the mean, but we will have to wait and see.

I could have told you Lindor was going to be the player he is right now as soon as he was traded... the skill level of competition(pitching) he faced as a hitter in the AL Central is significantly weaker and less talented, measured by almost any metric or stat available, then the pitching he has seen since playing in the NL East

The Mets traditionally overpay free agent players who are decreasing in performance, are aging, and get injured. Their owners begin the trend by always overpaying for the team and working the numbers for profits, not winning. They're not the Yankees, do not have the same quality farm system, and would do better as a "small ball" team with a much smaller payroll, but try to compete with them by fielding the same kind of squad. Even when they had the best team in MLB in 1986, they degenerated in succeeding years. It's their model. They make $ because they're the only other team in NYC and there are too many fans for the Yankees alone. Thus, they can afford to throw away $ on questionable free agents, field lower quality teams, and remain content to put out just enough quality ro fill the seats and pay the bills. It's a business model that works in NYC, like the Angels do in L.A. There's no tradition of quality, consistency, nor a rabid fan base. There is a tradition of doing just enough to make money, which their ownership and stockholders are contented with. 81-81 and a little better sells in NYC. Wait till next year. Ka-ching!

I think what’s not talked about is going out and buying champions like Verlander. They have already won a title and now you pay them, there isn’t a lot of hunger there. The Braves system works because the players knowingly take a pay cut to win so it becomes a hunger.

Alonso talked all that shit hitting a HR against Elder in game 1, only to end up striking out in the 9th and losing, and then his wrist gets hurt, he gonna miss 3 weeks, and they got fucking swept by the Braves after having a 3 run advantage in each of those games, LMAO

Remember when Mets fans use alway cry to Yankees fans with “YoU caN’t bUY cHaMpiONshIps” (insert curb your enthusiasm music)

Can you do a video on the Mariners? I feel like on paper, their pitching rotation and batting lineup is up there but they seem to struggle getting above .500.

Yes! Batting average does matter. Getting on base with walks means nothing if nobody is hitting them in.

Money has literally never led to a championship… I think we have been through this w NFL and NBA teams and even other MLB teams… when will they learn. You can’t buy cohesion etc..

Wait!? The Mets are Mets-ing up….no surprise.

What's Bonilla gonna make this year?

All good points. Thorough analysis. Sad for Met fans.

Braves' fans regarding this video: Show it again! Show it again, please! Show it again!

As a Mets fan, this year has been the most frustrating. The starting rotation is too old and inconsistent, the bats are either completely on or off, and the bullpen feels the pressure of eating so many innings and missing Sugar. Makes me want to give up on them completely in 2023.

This is just yet another typical Mets season. Who would have known that giving money to AARP members was a bad idea

Remeber last spring training when the Mets were practicing their World Series celebrations?… hahhahahaha…….

I know Mets fans are probably done with Buck, but appearing on Seinfeld makes you an absolute legend in my book

"the worst teams have the worst batting averages and the best teams have the best batting averages." There you go.

THROW IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!

6:19 the jays fans in the back 💀

Money doesn’t buy championships. Homegrown talent is always a huge plus. That’s why the Astros are so good, we develop players really well. Lost your star shortstop Carlos Correa, just bring up Jeremy Pena to replace him and now he’s a star at a way lower price. MLB isn’t just about who can throw the most money at players, it’s about who can build the best roster of balanced players.

RU-vid knows too much. I just clicked on the Mets v Astros (6/20/23) game on my tv and this got recommended 😬

Just because you go to another team for more money doesn't mean youll be good Verlander in Houston they knew his limits and coaching staff really knew how to work with him Dusty really took care of him

Frank the tank fleming is having a ruf time right now

Oh my. In the 3 weeks since this video was made, the Mets have gone straight downhill. Today 19 games behind the Braves. And this before the All Star game.

Yall forgetting the real problem was BMW those years ago trading away our entire farm for not even a wild card spot back in 2019. Cohen already said that hes gonna have to buy short term pitching with the money due to the lack of pitchers in the system.

I love the Mets but I have to watch them always lose with a good team

It confuses me how the Mets can win a series against the best team in the mlb, the rays, and then lose to the marlins, reds, and Rockies.

its crazy they ever thought lindor was better than seager back when he signed with mets.

Original owner was affiliated with Bernie Madoff How you think CITI FIELD was built 🤣🥃🔥🇺🇸

As someone who has absolute disdain for the Mets all I can say is 😂

It's crazy to think someone will get paid over 40 million while making maybe 32 starts.. over a mil a start no matter what? Shyt

The LOLMets are still a thing.

30 years to the day of the 1993 Mets. The worst team money can buy.

Please do the Padres next. Their record is worse than the Mets. Thanks Issac!

The problem with this team didn't start with Edwin Diaz getting hurt in the WBC. It started way back early last season when both Alonso and Lindor got hit in the head and the face by pitches. Then Marte got hit in the hand and missed time due to a fracture in his finger. The Mets never bothered to retaliate. They never showed that getting hit without consequences wasn't going to fly for them. They let teams off the hook. Opposing teams knew that none of their top players would get hurt. Then in the last regular season series against Atlanta, losing the division after leading for so long completely broke them. In the offseason, they decided to keep more or less the same team as last season. They kept guys like Canha, Vogelbach, Ruf (until the very end of ST), and the majority of the pitching staff even after knowing Edwin was going to be missing for the season. The Mets scouting department is bottom tier in the MLB. They signed 2 catchers going into 2023 because they didn't believe Francisco Alvarez was going to be ready until 2024. They kept Brett Baty from making the MLB roster after having a good Spring Training because they didn't believe he was ready. Buck Showalter has lost his way and lost this team. 2023 is a continuation of the end of the season 2022 and they still haven't recovered.

Braves gonna keep owning the division

These big dollar, long-term contracts never seem to be worth it. I don't know why teams keep signing these franchise crippling contracts.

Well, at least we're not Oakland. Unless something goes EXTREMELY wrong, EXTREMELY fast, the Mets aren't leaving NY any time soon. Honestly, If they're still struggling at the end of the month, I'd take the expiring deals and get what we could for them. 2023 looks like a wash, punt and try again next year.

When you really look at it, the mets simply have a mid way overpaid roster. The braves, astros, rays and others are wayyyyy better. McNeil is still a very solid hitter but everyone else is so mediocre and Alonso does hit a ton of homeruns. At the end of the day though, not really a great team, not the worst but there is way better players they should be able to get with their payroll.

i think what Show Buckwalter was saying was he was proud of the offense vs Strider

Money doesn't win championship

As a braves fan, I've got this playing on a loop.

Ngl saying Lindor was never an elite bay is insane. Dude was the best SS in baseball for a few years and that was because of his work on offense

The mets gonna make a run you buggin!

As a die hard mets fan this has been such a disappointment so far. This team has no spark. And buck seems to throw random lineups every night. No leadership

Lindor looks like he is trying to crush the ball every swing. Nimmo is slumping. Alonso is hurt. Verlander is meh, scherzer is meh to good. Diaz is hurt. Its not looking good

DONT WORRY METS FANS: The Bob Nightengale Tweet from last night just guaranteed a postseason run this season.

The Mets fans wanted a Steinbrenner-like owner, but got the Steinbrenner of the 80s except Eppler and Buck would have been gone already.

tfw you have the highest payroll in all of baseball and are behind a team that's basically a restaurant

I like these longer videos.

Poor Buck Showalter. That man deserves a WS ring based purely on the fact that he's always worked for organizations that don't want to do what they need to do toget him there. 2014 Orioles. Made it all the way to the ALCS... Then the front office decided to partially dismantle the team... all while the team that beat them added the pieces they needed to win the WS the very next year.

The blacklist cameo at the beginning! 🤣

I don't know we aren't even at the all star break, lots of things happen in the second half

The New York Bonillas

400 million worth of 💩! As a Yankees fan I love watching the Mets fail!😂

As a Mets fan, I honestly don’t know if it’s ever gonna get better and we become a consistently good team, we seem to make one fluke playoff/WS appearence and then fall off the face of the earth, I want to jump ship to the yanks but I’m so emotionally attached to this team that I can’t leave them, I guess we have to say the same thing over and over again, fire buck, and release everyone besides our pitchers, Alvarez and Pete, just start over again I guess I mean like the next era of Mets baseball is gonna be any different, THE METS WILL NEVER CONSTANTLY SUCCEED AND I IT PAINS ME TO SAY IT

Age catches up to everyone. (Except LeBron.) Verlander was historically great but he's done. It'll boggle your mind but Tim Lincecum has been out the league five years, and he's a year younger than Verlander. This Mets team has never recovered from the collapse last season. Time to make some moves, the pitching is truly terrible and they can't hit for shit either.

Lmao they liquidated hard

"Verlander still as good as ever", i dunno about that.

Not a mess anymore. Playing great!

Money can buy you players,but it can't buy you a team.

Please do a video on players who sign big contracts and how they never produce after those big contracts.

Degrom has gone from best pitcher in baseball to most injured

Pirates 14 Mets 7 Tonight 6/9/23

I can’t imagine when LolMets comedy club continues in London next year.

lol if only you saw the game from tonight!

Pete Alonso was targeted by the Baseball Gods after he showed up Bryce Elder while in the dugout. He should have kept his mouth shut.

As a Braves fan I was scared of the 2022 Mets but I'm glad that the Mets haven't been very good this year.

I'm a pirates fan and we absolutely obliterated the Mets tonight14-7 and quite frankly I think we're a better team than the Mets this year objectively. We only have a quarter the payroll the Mets do honestly I think always signing big-time free agents to huge contracts most of the time does more harm than good in the long run the most important thing always is growing your own talent in the farm every time.

Pete said Throw it again Please ! They sure did right on the wrist smh

Players also need to "click" together. Can pay all the money in the world. But good team chemistry keeps morale high, and motivation consistent.

The METS are a MESS! Seattle Mariners: Hold my beer...

Love the Mets, all about the Mets baby! Hit a home run, let’s go Mets! It’s _ALL_ about the Mets!

Money doesn't always buy champions!

As a Mets fans, I’m sad. But that’s kind of always how I feel.

My Astros are struggling, the Mets are struggling, and the Padres are unbelievably doing bad, baseball is a weird sport😅.

It's almost like Cohen never did the math. Trying to pay an entire 40 man MLB roster is impossibly expensive. If you want to win you gotta focus on the farm, not signing monster deals. But the season isn't over so I guess we will see.

During the pirates / mets game the other day they couldn't stop dropping the ball to save their lives. They looked like a damn high-school team. Still got the win. But it wasnt by much and it was an ugly path to it. The night before they got destroyed 14 to 7. Against the pirates ..who spend 70 mil a year vs the mets 380. Thats ...pretty abysmal. Fresh of a 7 game losing streak to add insult to injury.

I’ll start wearing my NY Mess tshirt from here on. Hope they fire Eppler and dfa Vogelbach 🤞🏽

Its crazy how weak their lineup is considering the payroll

The 2023 edition of LOLMETS

Losing slugger Pete Alonso for 4 to 5 weeks will sink the Good Ship Mets. Steve Cohen must do something drastic.

Takeaways. Baseball needs a salary cap; surplus profits go back to the fans via cheaper prices for ticket, food and parking. If you miss a season due to injury, you don't get your full salary that year. If you choose to play in the World Baseball Classic and get injured, you don't get your salary that year. This is getting ridiculous, players have too much power.

The NY MesS and SD SADres

They're trying to go down the same street the Yankees have done - "buy our rings". That just doesn't work as well nowadays as it did back in the Yanks' heyday. You have to spot the great YOUNG players. These old guys break down too soon. Giving multi-year deals to guys in their 30's just isn't very bright.

THROW IT AGAIN 🪓🪓🪓🪓🪓🪓🪓🪓🪓🪓🪓🪓🪓🪓🪓🪓🪓🪓🪓🪓🪓

Throw it again

Maybe it'd not the best idea to overpay for a bunch of players on long contracts in a sport where a large percentage of players can decline quickly