The MiG-23ML Is To Be Nerfed After The Sales

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@Threxer 27 дней назад

Goon Sesh: Paused

@DEFYN 27 дней назад

do not pause the goonsesh!

@Threxer 27 дней назад

@@DEFYN Goon Sesh: Resumed

@juicemeister1984 27 дней назад

Gooners never stop 😩

@carroteer 26 дней назад

goon while watching

@johnadams614 26 дней назад

lemme join you

@mig29gaming 27 дней назад

0:48 ok but that was the cleanest double kill ever

@Someone-qu3lx 25 дней назад

@surrealtom 26 дней назад

10:49 "you wanna stay above .9 Mach in every plane" Im trying, Defyn, but im in a Yak 3....

@erviplayer 26 дней назад

the guy in a reserve in the toptier game

@raketny_hvost 24 дня назад

You can try it even with Abrams if you just believe and don't activate 500%

@bardicmissiles 27 дней назад

" Dont buy this plane " - *proceeds to drop a double kill in .2 seconds* DEFYN YOUR FUCKING WITH MY DOPAMINE

@mogus6271 26 дней назад

because its being nerfed

@blaken3824 26 дней назад

*you're

@muhuashen196 26 дней назад

Its rly fun

@user-jy6cn3jy8g 26 дней назад

Well, you can do triple kill in 0.2 seconds in F-4S but it doesn’t make it any good

@muhuashen196 26 дней назад

@@user-jy6cn3jy8g true words

@EricThyKaiser 27 дней назад

DEFYN coming in clutch saving everyone's money

@salltyboi 27 дней назад

*nerfs after selling* classic gaijin

@pcfree4994 27 дней назад

Remember when they sold the T2 early... then removed it and added the F4 ATDW.... just 7 weeks later? or the M1 KVT being replaced by the "click bait" after 6 months?

@Retronyx 27 дней назад

Basically scamming

@thombrick 27 дней назад

Yeah, but both of your examples weren't half price before the better premium came out, you should never buy a premium at full price anyway. @@pcfree4994

@ollilaine6763 27 дней назад

Would be more stupid for them to keep unrealistic features in the game just because you can pay for it. The timing of the bug report though is quite a coincidence lol

@user-nu1qh5vc7n 26 дней назад

For the first time i think the F4S is actually better

@GeneralLee2000 27 дней назад

Watch them move the MiG-23ML to 11.0 after this 😭

@reesekilpatrick241 27 дней назад

If they do the mla needs to go with it

@kingghidorah8106 27 дней назад

not like the mig23 ml/mla/mld aren't 11.7 worth or anything 💀 if they nerf it they better nerf the radar.

@oIX3N0NIo 27 дней назад

the 23ML is perfectly fine at 11.3, a lot of other planes first would need to go down before it budges even slightly.

@ryanfreeman5083 27 дней назад

@@kingghidorah8106 They aren't

@kingghidorah8106 26 дней назад

@@oIX3N0NIo how is it fine? the thing is literally better than every single 11.3 in game. Flight performance and armament wise. The only thing that comes close to it is the f4j but it has an awful flight model.

@Frosty_43 27 дней назад

3:44 🤨📸

@LordTomi2011 27 дней назад

Ah, so this is why you were flying out the Mig-23ML. You almost shot my stock F-15J down before I ended up having some of the best and most fun fights I've had so far, and I only found out about this a few days later, when I opened the replay, so I could experience it again. I hope next time we end up in the same match, it'll be on the same team! :D

@MrDinoChungus 27 дней назад

Geachte DEFYN, koning Willem-Alexander der Nederlanden requests that you do the griddy.

@AbsolutVodka1789 26 дней назад

my man wont stop asking for that griddy

@Radar_2 27 дней назад

gritty NOW ‼️

@DEFYN 27 дней назад

i am hitting the griddy so hard rn

@nicholashritcu7236 27 дней назад

I got this plane a year or more ago not even on sale and its my only WT purchase i dont regret. literally such an amazing jett, amazing acceleration, Amazing turning, 4X R60Ms are good, R24Rs are insane, radar is decent. i love every single thing about it

@Snail_Thunder_ 27 дней назад

NO NOT MY FLOGGER 🐌💯💯🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️💥💥💥

@MacWithGun 27 дней назад

Gaijin keeps getting these brilliant ideas that nobody asks for…

@huntingfox3351 27 дней назад

It's a player reported bug report...

@nathaaab 27 дней назад

It's a FM fix it was always overperforming anyways.

@interpl6089 27 дней назад

@@nathaaab Then lower its BR

@testpilot. 27 дней назад

@@nathaaabthe mig 29 and su 27 are underpreforming but you never hear people about that.

@nathaaab 27 дней назад

@@interpl6089 if players end up doing so bad in it then it will happen

@Shizwiz 27 дней назад

Floggersisters, it's so over for us... 😥💔

@krisxx9732 26 дней назад

Jover indeed

@jonathonspears7736 27 дней назад

I enjoyed my time with the ML. It got me up through the Russian tree with little effort. R-24s just clap. and 2 kills a game with a premium plane and premium time is all you need to efficiently grind

@lazarj 26 дней назад

Love this plane. 70% win rate, 3.4kd. Grinded from La-5 to Su-27 with it.

@tewsgcdcfgechk908 24 дня назад

Hey Defyn, could you maybe put the current BR on the plane you are flying into the description? Like where you post convergence etc. It would really help to know when watching old videos in the future.

@defus6590 27 дней назад

are you going to be making an updated video on the F-5C when it goes on sale?

@Last_Baguette0001 26 дней назад

I HAVE to ignore my family of 4 to watch Defyn.

@Albertc1357 27 дней назад

that double at the beginning was so unbelievably fucking clean

@ryanfreeman5083 26 дней назад

I wonder how much longer the F-5s will keep their insane flight models

@iansysoev9462 26 дней назад

As long as US players buy them

@3601christopher 27 дней назад

Literally been thinking about buying this plane for about 2 months now. Thanks for saving me my cash

@yovollow1370 26 дней назад

Yeah me too but now idk what to buy

@Mucky_Muck 26 дней назад

@@yovollow1370 buy some fun game instead of paying snail

@suzanarubi9254 26 дней назад

@@yovollow1370 A new game

@lvcx001 26 дней назад

x3...and yes, idk what to buy too

@3601christopher 26 дней назад

@@yovollow1370 same, kinda disappointed now

@tobi2233 27 дней назад

New Russian top tier premium is probably coming that could be why they nerfed this plane

@ducemasanori6208 26 дней назад

The Mig-23ML is probably one of the best premiums I've ever bought in WT for the purpose of SL grinding and research. There's also a unique feature (unsure if this is present on other aircrafts) that the Mig-23ML can IR lock onto other jets which gives you an advantage when using R-60Ms or R-24Ts. So unless if your target is aware of you, they won't know a missile is launched because it's IR locking and not radar locking.

@97coolio99 27 дней назад

Will DEFYN oil up after the sales as well? Asking for a friend

@mrbombastic6478 25 дней назад

Nice Aim! What are your camera sensitivity settings and mouse dpi numbers I always wonder

@GreasePotato 27 дней назад

will the kfir canard get nerfed? I’ve heard only good things about it so i’ll probably pick it up if it goes on sale.

@gustavowindsor5841 26 дней назад

No problems, don't worry guys, this sales was a piece of shit

@Cohuatl 26 дней назад

"We will adjust this plane FM (We are going to nerf it to the ground)" - Gaijin

@Dylan-ji1xx 26 дней назад

people dont seem to realise that the MiG-23 can pull really high AOA with its wings swept fully back and at lower speed. I use it to catch people off gaurd for the first turn. I wouldn't be surprised if it could beat a mirage in a rolling scissors.

@mochabear88 26 дней назад

@gummonster1 24 дня назад

I agree, I Talisman'd my MiG-23 MLD and never looked back. Same with the F-5E and J-7E. All great jets perfectly suited for air RB, even with the curse of 16v16 where no one can really clutch up consistently anymore. But, hey, the Ta-152 H has always been the king of air RB, and has been for many years now. I remember a time when it just came out it was so horrible. Same with Do-335, all great planes now. Just insane how 1 letter difference makes the MLD and ML premium so different in performance overall in this current meta.

@hugostrom4576 27 дней назад

Is this for all Mig 23s or only the Mig23ML? Cause i like the MIG23MLD so is the mld gonna get nerfed aswell?

@MD-wn4ui 27 дней назад

All MIG23/27’s

@sever472 26 дней назад

Hmm remembering how shit R-23Rs, radar, 12 flares and Fm would be on Mig 23M/MF they might get downtierd to 10.7.

@Anonymous_1210 25 дней назад

I feel like this guy is Max from the youtube channel Auto TopNL

@RyzawaVT 24 дня назад

Crazy my friend bought this just over a week ago, luckily he almost has the su-27 already, so he doesn't have much need for this thing by the time it gets nerfed.

@user-lc3nm2kf1v 27 дней назад

DEFYN can you try CL-13B Mk.6?

@ReaperCheGuevara 26 дней назад

F105d flaps don't deploy after takeoff anymore. I'm not sure if other aircraft have been experiencing that recently.

@vegetassgss3307 27 дней назад

Do you mind if I ask where you heard that it was going to be nerfed?

@a.anonymous1318 27 дней назад

I put a talisman on my MLD when i spaded it But uts good to know gaijin is gonna break my favourite jet

@bleach3ye893 27 дней назад

I want to be at the top now :D

@MoskusMoskiferus1611 26 дней назад

0:47 Top Gun Defyn

@tahapolat5300 26 дней назад

What should I buy during the sales?

@ferrariman7695 27 дней назад

Like will that affect the grind tho?

@brunovictorpizate5516 26 дней назад

Gonna buy kfir canard on a sale, i know it has only to missiles but the br is convincing enough

@underpaidguy 27 дней назад

Good thing I didn’t buy it

@tobi2233 27 дней назад

It’s still worth it tho

@user-nu1qh5vc7n 26 дней назад

@@tobi2233Iam not sure it will be like the f4s with less missile

@ah-64apache92 27 дней назад

Of course they will change it AFTER saled what a scummy devs

@ah-64apache92 27 дней назад

AND after that they will be happy to and NEW rank VIII russian air premium wow

@adoplwt 27 дней назад

So it’s a last weeks of mig23 being actually good in arb?

@NicoGrosso78 26 дней назад

just when I was close to getting the mig23 for germany :(

@blaken3824 26 дней назад

2:10 some might consider that phrase as something good

@Likeaworm 25 дней назад

Gaijin with the bait and switch sales

@ofir123456789o 27 дней назад

Gaijin moment

@silent_j6198 27 дней назад

So they'll nerf the Mig-23 but keep the UFO-16 and Grippen FM's the same? I can't even...

@user45g-4c5rf 26 дней назад

Above all, the Gripen needs a nerve of its heat signature... He's banned from competitions because of that, he doesn't give off much heat and above all yes he's a little more efficient than irl. The F16 remains consistent.

@incognito3678 26 дней назад

Russian bias they say

@Hagop64 26 дней назад

Well if I can't easily win 1v3 fights in this, then it's clearly terrible! Always good stuff Defyn.

@demomanweed8175 26 дней назад

How do we know that the flogger flight models will be redone? What's the source

@DEFYN 26 дней назад

Its confirmed on the forums

@demomanweed8175 26 дней назад

@@DEFYN do we know how bad will they mess up the flight model? Like will they still be usable?

@darealsherlock8026 27 дней назад

Out radar jousting a F14 at 1:33 Crazy

@ccclll987 26 дней назад

This thing in sim is a beast because it sits at 11.0 and it is the best plane at that br, together with the first viggen.

@kuunoooo7293 26 дней назад

The only problem i have, and aperantly only me, my radar simply wont lock anybody anymore, i havent experianced this with my mig23ml ever before. Every time i try to lock an enemy now it locks for 0.5 seconds and then the lock fumbles. It has made the r24r's useless to me and sadly i cant really use this plane anymore becaus r24t's are really good but everybody constantly flares

@FlightIsLife 26 дней назад

I wonder if this might make the mig23 v phantom fight less of a joke

@o_gpotterhead 26 дней назад

Can you play the f 86 A 5 please it would be interesting to see what it can do at 8.0

@farmcat9873 27 дней назад

Dont forget that the rip speed is lower than people think and said it well the thing will rip itself apart before you know it, just like a Russian made plane irl

@Gekayos 26 дней назад

Thank god I already got my au-27 with this thing

@Yucioq- 26 дней назад

Same already grinded the whole tree with it and got it from the last sale

@betelgeuse_99 26 дней назад

I should have done that. I'm stuck grinding with a talisman'd Mig-21 SMT

@leff2438 26 дней назад

@@betelgeuse_99tbh 21smt is better and 23 (other than mld maybe) due to a matchmaker

@Wafuren-Ch 26 дней назад

is this only for the ML or also for the MLA?

@thegenericguy8309 26 дней назад

man the Soviets just straight up aren’t allowed to have energy retention at higher tiers huh

@kylemelder5118 26 дней назад

They should have made better engines and not been so shit at metallurgy and structure work. The 27 and 29 in game already have much better thrust to weight than in real life in all altitudes, while the 16c is lower than real life.

@beetlusjuicus4013 24 дня назад

@@kylemelder5118 non of top tiers planes are performing realistically

@timharnans 26 дней назад

I bought this two months ago. Now its getting nerfed. I bought the IS-6 about 4 months before it was nerfed I bought the 2S38 and now it's getting nerfed I bought the M728 then they broke HESH sigh

@contemptordreadnought 6 часов назад

In two months of grinding you should have top russia

@janchovanec8624 26 дней назад

Mig-23's are an absolute Pigs IRL. USA purchased Mig-23 from Egypt during the Cold War. The Navy F-4's run circles around them. F-4E absolutely clowned it in a turn fight. USSR purchased F-5's from USA's ally and during their tests, the F-5 clowned both Mig-21s and 23s and mind you, the F-5 was piloted by a Russian pilot with like 4h of flight time on that thing. Mig-23's only good side was the acceleration, for it could out-accelerate F-14A for the brief moment before the lock was acquired.

@muhuashen196 26 дней назад

As some1 with a positive kd+around 600games in the ML, I'd say this plane is perfect even if its a 11.7. A few nerfs will be rly good for other planes to compete at this rank since this since dominates rn.

@localdrugseller6431 26 дней назад

I edge to your videos lil bro

@No1harris_98 27 дней назад

Top tier SIM content when??

@aceofthunder9868 27 дней назад

The mig23mld was my one of my all time favorites. When i played it the teams were insanely good, around 75 percent winrate, and the flight model was very good, being able tobasically everything at your own br and being able to rate fight better planes than you

@gansior4744 27 дней назад

"teams were insanely good"- aka russian planes were unhistorically buffed and performed way better than they should

@barbarapitenthusiast7103 27 дней назад

@@gansior4744 opposite the mig29s flight performance is nerfed and so is the su27. And we have declasified mi29 and su27sk manuals to prove it

@testpilot. 27 дней назад

@@gansior4744nha man US main are the wost player imo followed by germany. The best players are the rusians and French for some reason. Funny how the best planes pull the worsed players

@p_filippouz 27 дней назад

@@gansior4744 not at all lmao, it's the opposite.

@gansior4744 24 дня назад

@@testpilot. Definietly Russian players are not best. They are fuckin braindead and their handheld vehicles suit them perfectly. But I would agree that Minor nations are some of the best performing

@retsE777 27 дней назад

Edging streak: paused

@Catsmurf1234 27 дней назад

Defyn can you make a video on the Sagittario 2 pls😭😭🥺🥺

@bencurran3204 26 дней назад

If their flight model gets hit itll make farming them easier in my f.3

@12345678907830 26 дней назад

Def would you say the russian SU22M3 is a better purchase due to its 6xR60MK loadout

@MikoHere 27 дней назад

is this because gaijin wants to add the SU-30 (pls gaijin I need more russian bias) F-5+F-15=f-20 Su-27+Su-3 = Su-30 2 non premium turn into premium, pls gaijin. BTW DEFYN if you read this then should I get the J35XS or MIG-23ML, neither or both.

@panagiotis6609 26 дней назад

Are the gonna be 50% sales

@jez_77 26 дней назад

I had 5 downtiers in 150 games in Mig-23MLD. The rest was only 12.0 and 12.3 . After nerf its gonna be so much fun I suppose...

@corbynxavier1162 26 дней назад

Is the German mig 23 mla being nerfed? I just put a talisman on it 😢

@Valkaze111 27 дней назад

Mig 23ML on simple planes, X-plane 11, Strike fighters 2 ✅ Mig 23ML on War thunder ❌

@Past10Performance 26 дней назад

Man ive just been starting to enjoy the mig23s in sim, nerfing the flight model on the mig 23 when its the only plane in its br bracket that can really stand up to the bigger usa/brit/french teams is really going to kill the 10.3-11.3 sim bracket. You allready struggle to find a game playing usa because there is no one playing the other team, making the only good plane the other team has worse is going to compound that. Defyn do you ever do sim content? Would love some of your break downs for sim matches

@askamikaze3936 26 дней назад

Classic gaijin

@TomPrickVixen 26 дней назад

Typical! I finally brought my 1st (not a premium) MiG-23 during the sale, and gets instant nerfed, so i have to skip another jet(s). Just like my French rank 5 ground setup, that has no place to be at 8.0!

@Juho-uf8si 27 дней назад

what? i was just about to buy it and start grinding for su27 :< well maybe i just finish US tree instead

@YukarisGearReviews 26 дней назад

P47N? Appreciate the buying advice.

@DEFYN 26 дней назад

thanks! It's shit :)

@YukarisGearReviews 26 дней назад

@@DEFYN If I offered more money would you do a video? My birthday is next month and I was hoping for one. If not, I'm still giving you money, your advice over the years has been helpful and the gameplay/commentary very entertaining.

@DEFYN 26 дней назад

@@YukarisGearReviews when's the birthday? I gotta cover it tbh it's been overdue, dw about the money.

@YukarisGearReviews 26 дней назад

@@DEFYN 27 on June 17! Thank you man! I'm still sending you some dosh when it drops

@ZeePanzer 26 дней назад

The ML being more of a brick will be too sad for me, i love it, and R24Rs at 11.0 are ridiculous, gaijin wont do this mistake. Isnt the fact that the R24R are a great missile for the br, but the fact that half the RWRs at the BR cant get pings from the radar that guides it, makes it a great weapon.

@Rururudenko 26 дней назад

The M at 11.0 has 12 flare and no R24

@ZeePanzer 26 дней назад

worse FM worse engine worse radar... but the MiG 23M at 10.7 would be a menace on downtiers.

@martinwellhoefer9159 26 дней назад

Now im not even sure if i should crew the mig 23 mla or skip it.

@wulfaxe7661 26 дней назад

i've had a blast in the MLA, but with these changes idk man, it's my best plane now

@beetlusjuicus4013 24 дня назад

I would wait and see how it does post nerf

@wulfaxe7661 26 дней назад

But my MLA? :c i love that thing

@gonz_daddy 25 дней назад

Man, I wanted to grind the Russian Air tree with this thing and they go and nerf it. Whats a better option in y'all's opinion?

@itmejac6945 22 дня назад

If you enjoy sim the su-39 will get you a ton of research and so from taking out bases and has two r-73s

@gonz_daddy 22 дня назад

@@itmejac6945 I've been enjoying sim more lately after getting a flight stick. And I've been eyeing the su 39 for a while. Maybe I'll grab it whenever it goes half off. Thanks for the input 💯

@user-nu1qh5vc7n 26 дней назад

For the first time i think the F4S is actually better to buy. The mig will be like the f4s with less missile and worse radar

@Zorthal 26 дней назад

R24T's no good ?

@rav3727 27 дней назад

A Soviet jet that gets nerfed into a missile boat? Just anothwr day with gaijin, waiting for the phantoms to get buffed out of nowhere to be able to assrape the floggers now, they seem to like this trend

@spoon6937 26 дней назад

Funny when you take into account that us gets phantoms for all its entirety of the11.0-11.3 tech tree, u cant dogfight and the us doesnt have main access to all aspect in a fighter airframe until 12.0 unlike russia which has it in 11.3

@beetlusjuicus4013 24 дня назад

@@spoon6937the j can’t but the e certainly can

@intechio9013 11 дней назад

@@spoon6937 the f-14 at 11.7 has all aspect missiles and uses a fighter airframe wym

@AlfieLegTerd-ll7ee 26 дней назад

Damn I love the mig I just had a game where I killed a f16 f15 and mig 29 with r24t. Personally I wouldn’t recommend the r24r because of the radar because it just seems inconsistent. And also it’s all personal preference cus I followed what everyone else said (the r24r ) and I was only getting like 7k each game and I tried the r24t and now on average I get like 23k

@Yucioq- 26 дней назад

But the r24r is pretty strong in headons or side aspect with mti radar easy kills but if enemy pays attention and drops 2 flares even when not even flaring bc of your missile the r24t will miss so radar is better

@Bigcheif-hm1nt 26 дней назад

Ofcourse of damn course this is my main jet I’m almost in tier 6 of the Soviet tree trying to get to top tier and they want to nerf it

@carlosadonayguardadogaleas6150 27 дней назад

😢

@loivw 27 дней назад

im jelqing rn

@XSpamDragonX 26 дней назад

god I hate getting uptiered against this, R24Rs are actually insufferable when you get literally zero warning

@trolski1618 27 дней назад

F1C-200 owners rejoice?

@lukegrant9526 26 дней назад

Yes Magic 2 are goat :)

@DzinkyDzink 26 дней назад

And when they roll out Premium Rank VIII SuperMiG-21 they are gonna nerf R73 as well.

@pearelectronics3083 26 дней назад

finally someone else illustrating just how shit the R60M is, I find it hilarious that some people compare it to the aim 9L in terms of performance, but the 9L wins every time, I wish the soviets developed a missile better than the r60m but worse than the R73 so we would not have this problem