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The Miraculous Coming Forth of the Book of Mormon (Class 2 from The Book of Mormon: A Master Class) 

John Hilton III
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Welcome to "The Book of Mormon: A Master Class," by John Hilton III. To learn more about this course, visit johnhiltoniii.com/thebookofmo...
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May the Lord richly bless you as you seriously study the Book of Mormon!

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@amberbee6
@amberbee6 3 дня назад
What an uplifting class!
@WilmaMendoza-rw4wm
@WilmaMendoza-rw4wm 6 месяцев назад
Brother Hilton thank you so much for this master class. I am certain i will learn so much and abide in its teachings. The Book of Mormon converted me to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints at the age of 16. Thanks to the missionaries who invited and challenge me to read it as Moroni said in Moroni 10:3-5. I know Jesus Christ is my Savior. He atoned for my sins. Truly as we abide in the teachings of the book we will get closer to the Savior. I love Heavenly Father and His only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ. Iin the name of Jesus Christ. Ame.
@johnhiltoniii
@johnhiltoniii 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing this testimony!
@jodylivingston
@jodylivingston 6 месяцев назад
Over 21k views on this master class makes me very happy to see! Thanks for sharing these John!
@lucillethornton4100
@lucillethornton4100 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for this class. My goal is to gain a deeper understanding of the Book of Mormon and a stronger testimony.
@johnhiltoniii
@johnhiltoniii 6 месяцев назад
You're welcome! That's exactly what I hope will happen in this course
@Buincity2023
@Buincity2023 6 месяцев назад
I printed Emma S. Testimony and I inserted it to my BOM first pages of the 11 witnesses. It touch my heart and soul.
@johnhiltoniii
@johnhiltoniii 6 месяцев назад
Beautiful!
@eiffiesefenu4084
@eiffiesefenu4084 6 месяцев назад
I saw you at Follow Him Podcast and I thought i could use more of your insights. I like how you keep true to the words in scriptures and prophets. I hope to continue viewing these series. Truly, "you are so good, they made three of you"
@johnhiltoniii
@johnhiltoniii 6 месяцев назад
Haha, Hank is pretty funny! :) Thanks for your kind words.
@sb7320
@sb7320 6 месяцев назад
Very grateful and excited for this master class on the Book of Mormon. Thank you!
@johnhiltoniii
@johnhiltoniii 6 месяцев назад
Welcome to the course!
@eloiselovesdevi
@eloiselovesdevi 6 месяцев назад
Thank you Bro Hilton! I loved the Seeking Jesus course and really look forward to this one!!
@johnhiltoniii
@johnhiltoniii 6 месяцев назад
Thanks so much Eloise!
@shirrenegovender9288
@shirrenegovender9288 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for your efforts to make this video. It is so well explained and is helpful in my BYU studies of the Book Of Mormon.
@sclindah
@sclindah 6 месяцев назад
We have loved all of your videos and insights. It's blessed our studies. Thanks.
@johnhiltoniii
@johnhiltoniii 6 месяцев назад
You're welcome! I appreciate your kind words
@user-lj2fi9fq4r
@user-lj2fi9fq4r 6 месяцев назад
I do thank you for your time, inspiration. The area of your inspiration does fullfill my desire on my continuing with searching, seeking to magnify my understanding and strengthen my testimony and be a doer not just a hearer. Appreciate greatly . FYI Losa Patterson send the link to our gospel doctrine class. Grateful.
@dinocollins720
@dinocollins720 6 месяцев назад
Another fantastic lesson! Thanks brother Hilton!!!
@GinaMacArt
@GinaMacArt 7 месяцев назад
Hi John, thank you for creating "The Book of Mormon: A Master Class" for our Come Follow Me study for 2024. While I haven't completed the "Seeking Jesus" videos, I hope to be able to do that too this year. Happy New Year. From, Gina Mac of Queensland, Australia. 😊❤️🙏🇦🇺
@johnhiltoniii
@johnhiltoniii 6 месяцев назад
Gina, thank you for your kind words and connecting us across continents! I love that we can be in a class together!
@superandonos_003
@superandonos_003 6 месяцев назад
Tengo 68 años ,hablo español. Gracias ,gracias ,amo este curso y lo seguiré en mi estudio serio del Libro de Mormón!
@sandyorme8864
@sandyorme8864 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for the time you spend in preparing and teaching. I really have enjoyed your insight.
@johnhiltoniii
@johnhiltoniii 6 месяцев назад
You are very welcome!
@paulconterio2757
@paulconterio2757 Месяц назад
Excellent podcast!
@johnhiltoniii
@johnhiltoniii Месяц назад
Thanks for being a part of the Master Class! :)
@KeepLearning4Ever
@KeepLearning4Ever 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for creating this resource.
@johnhiltoniii
@johnhiltoniii 6 месяцев назад
My pleasure...I hope it's helpful!
@trower64
@trower64 6 месяцев назад
How wonderful! Thank you so much!
@hanami_patrick
@hanami_patrick 6 месяцев назад
I appreciate the knowledge shared, kindly share a pdf format of the timeline for downloading 😁
@johnhiltoniii
@johnhiltoniii 6 месяцев назад
I don't have a PDF, but there's a PowerPoint of the visual that you could convert into a PDF. If you look at the link in the video description and go to the resources for this class, you can easily download the PPT. I hope that's helpful!
@capitulofernandez8991
@capitulofernandez8991 7 месяцев назад
thank you very much....
@johnhiltoniii
@johnhiltoniii 6 месяцев назад
You are most welcome!
@brettpinion4233
@brettpinion4233 6 месяцев назад
There is no place on earth that fits the BOM because it is not true. Thankfully, there is truth found in the Bible and the eternal, all powerful, perfect, only true God can be found in it. There is NO archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, botanical or dna evidence to support the Book of Mormon. LDS anthropologist Dee Green: “The first myth we need to eliminate is that BOM archaeology exists” conceding 20 years of research “left us empty-handed” (Green 1969 p. 77) NO trace of Jewish dna found in any Indian burial ground anywhere in the Americas from time period of BOM. Thomas W. Murphy, (Mormon scholar, DNA researcher):“We are in a dilemma, the genetic evidence shows that American Indians are not Hebrews, they are not Israelites. The Book of Mormon is not true.” John Whitmer Historical Association Journal 2005 IS THE GOD OF THE BOOK OF MORMON THE SAME ONE AS IN THE BIBLE? NO! In the LDS Church’s 147th Conf., Gen Authority Bernard P. Brockbank said: the Christ followed by Mormons is NOT THE CHRIST followed by traditional Christianity. (Ensign, May 1977 p. 26) "Before me NO god was formed, nor shall there be ANY after me.” (Isaiah 43:10) If Mormonism is true, then God could not make this claim, for he was just a man at one point; nor could he claim that no gods would come after him, for that is the goal of LDS members. Like Joseph Smith, this was the goal of Satan, to be like God and have worshipers. "I will exalt my throne above the stars of God ... I will be like the Most High”’ (Isaiah 14:12-14) NO truth: Book of Abraham published with 3 facsimiles taken from an ancient papyrus. The book is a funerary papyrus showing scenes from the Egyptian Book of the Dead. In Facsimiles Nos. 1 & 3, Smith misidentifies everything depicted. "LDS and non-LDS Egyptologists agree that the characters on the fragments do not match the translation given in the book of Abraham" Quote from LDS OFFICIAL WEB PAGE NO trace of the “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2), with iron, brass, breast-plates, shields, and armor. It would be impossible for these millions of dead warriors in armor to leave no trace. NO trace of the great city Zarahemla- it would be impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla (Alma 5:2; D&C 125:3) to leave no trace. NO temple like Solomon's described in 2 Nephi 5:16 has ever been found yet biblical temple is easily seen in Jerusalem. If the temple Nephi describes ever existed it could not disappear. NO Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings ever found anywhere as it is not a real language anywhere in the world. NO cities mentioned in the BOM have ever been located (none of 38) anywhere. It would be impossible for them to disappear unless they never existed. NO evidence: "The whole land was covered with buildings, and the people were as numerous, as it were the sand of the sea." Yet not one ever located. (Mormon 1:7) IMPOSSIBLE for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) & MILLIONS of people to have vanished. The BOM speaks of sheep, swine, silk, wool clothing & elephants existing in the Americas when they did not. 1 Ne.13:7; Alma 4:6; Ether 9:17 and 10:24 These were brought to America centuries later by Europeans. NO wheat, no goats, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no steel swords, no cattle, no chariot parts, no brass (Mosiah 8:10) no evidence of the listed Kings in BOM, no Jewish relics or Jewish Temples from supposed Jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly used, no middle eastern seeds growing, "which were brought from the land of Jerusalem ... and grew exceedingly" 1 Nephi 18:24 CAN WE IGNORE THE LACK OF EVIDENCE FOR THE THE BOOK OF MORMON AND JUST TRUST OUR HEARTS AS TO THE TRUTH OF IT EVEN THOUGH IT CONFLICTS WITH THE BIBLE? NO! D&C Section 9:8-9 - tell us that if something is true it will make our "bosom burn" and we will FEEL that it is right. Maroni 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you" The Bible warns us against this subjective type of truth test. Why? Because we have a sinful nature that can be deceived. Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusts in his own (bosom) heart is a FOOL." The Scriptures, however, are infallible and can never be wrong (John 17:17; Psalm 119:128; 33:4; 19:8; Romans 3:4). This is why the Bible frequently urges us to study and meditate on God's word. 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV "STUDY ... rightly dividing the word of TRUTH." Acts 17:11 "EXAMINE THE SCRIPTURES to see if what said is TRUE". 1John 4:1 says: "BELIEVE NOT EVERY SPIRIT, ... because MANY FALSE PROPHETS have gone out into the world." Mormonism claims the bible was corrupted to justify Joseph Smith's changing of the biblical, eternal God into an evolving, created god, who is not all powerful and is one of an endless number of gods . However, this is a PROVABLY FALSE claim. The Claim: In the BOM, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed after the 12 apostles and after the formation of the “great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this is the Catholic Church formed in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the Devil (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine the Bible & BOM. BIBLE: The Dead Sea Scrolls have been dated to as early as 350 BC. One is the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known copy of the Book of Isaiah dated to 180 BC. Do ANY ancient scrolls show Smith's "uncorrupted" version of scripture? NO! Yet they would if the scripture was later corrupted after the 12 apostles died as Smith and Nephi said. Also, if they had been corrupted, Jesus would have corrected scripture instead of affirming it! Jesus sd:“ I told you EVERYTHING written about me in the Law of Moses, the Books of the Prophets, and in the Psalms had to happen.” (Luke 24:44-46) Scripture is the same today as it was 2,100+ years ago with only minor spelling and punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. These scrolls pre-dated Catholics, and are Jewish scrolls and the BOM says the Jews had the Scriptures in their "purity". 1Nephi 13:25 LDS Apologist Wayne Ham admitted the Isaiah scroll does not support the the BOM. Apologist Dr. Sidney B. Sperry, of BYU, said the Dead Sea Scrolls do not help the case for the BOM. BYU Professor Joseph F. McConkie: "Rather than Joseph Smith as Found in Ancient Manuscripts, it ought be Joseph Smith as Lost in Ancient Manuscripts.” (Religious Studies Center, 1984) The new testament has not been corrupted either. See the book of John. Smith changed it to make Jesus a created being. Research a 1900 year old papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri of the book of John. (written 150 AD, around the Apostle John's time) John 1:1 "In the BEGINNING was the WORD and the WORD was WITH God and the WORD WAS God." ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ (look up this ancient Greek yourself on google) John 1:1 Joseph Smith translation: "In the beginning was the GOSPEL preached through the Son. And the GOSPEL was the word, and the word was with the Son, and the Son was with God, and the Son was of God." Smith's Jesus is no longer God in the flesh but the biblical Jesus is: "God was manifest in the flesh" 1Tim. 3:16 KJV There are 4,000 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament. Some go back to 350 AD and NONE support Joseph Smith's claims that the bible of today has been corrupted. Papyrus fragments exist of the New Testament dated to 175 AD and show that the new testament has NOT been "corrupted". (New Testament Docs: Are They Reliable? Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1967 pp. 15-17) The manuscript and archeological evidence for the BIBLE is the GREATEST in antiquity. I pray you know the true Jesus and not Joseph Smith's exalted man from another planet who is not eternal, not all powerful, not perfect but evolving, and was polygamous. God is much greater than the humanoid of Mormonism and NOT just ONE OF AN ENDLESS NUMBER OF EVOLVING GODS. Jesus said ALL scripture will NOT fade away but "many wolves in sheep's clothing" will come trying to add to the word. Mathew 7:15 Joseph Smith changed Jesus, the Father and taught you can become a GOD. It hurts my heart to see Mormons fall for the lie that we can become God when there is only one eternal God found in the bible. "The only men who become Gods, even the sons of Gods are those that enter into polygamy." (Brigham Young) Journal of Discourses 11 p.269 Apostle Orson Pratt, in The Seer, page 172, “the great Messiah who was the founder of the Christian religion was a Polygamist…the Messiah chose to take upon himself his seed; and by marrying many wives, … The son followed the example of his Father" God gave us critical thinking & logical reasoning for a reason, which is why he does tell us to EXAMINE and TEST what we are being taught for TRUTH. The bible withstands the truth test. Joseph Smith's version fails the truth test. It's your eternity, study it for yourself. God bless.
@happyjim8027
@happyjim8027 6 месяцев назад
Brother Hilton, do you know why The Church doesn’t use the original manuscript in the current version of The Book of Mormon? Thank you for sharing your great knowledge with us.
@johnhiltoniii
@johnhiltoniii 6 месяцев назад
I don't know. If I had to guess it would be that it's easier to maintain the current version, especially considering all of the language translations if changes to go back to some of the original readings. But that's just a guess!
@balduran2003
@balduran2003 6 месяцев назад
It was my understanding that the characters document shown at 3:15 is not the Anthon script, but a separate copy of Characters. Wasn't the anthon script lost?
@holo133
@holo133 6 месяцев назад
Riverside ❤
@Arone1418
@Arone1418 6 месяцев назад
I see eight classes on your website. How many will there be total? And will more than these four be uploaded to RU-vid? Thanks a bunch
@johnhiltoniii
@johnhiltoniii 6 месяцев назад
There will be 52 classes, one added each week throughout 2024
@roxannemorton
@roxannemorton 6 месяцев назад
I sometimes wonder if an angel came to take the pages, or if they were destroyed quickly without ever being read as they were never found, nobody seemed to claim responsibility for having stolen them (as far as I know the history) and I imagine it would have been irresistible for conspirers to release the pages at a later date, even years later, edited or not.
@johnhiltoniii
@johnhiltoniii 6 месяцев назад
I look forward to finding out more about this in the next life!
@trinanishitani8609
@trinanishitani8609 6 месяцев назад
Interesting thought...maybe?!?
@aaronrich6925
@aaronrich6925 6 месяцев назад
Joseph always said it was through the Urim and Thummin and was told he couldn't show the Urim and Thummin to people. Oliver Cowdrey said the same thing. Those are the two people that did almost all of the Book of Mormon we have. The "Nephite Interpreters".
@aaronrich6925
@aaronrich6925 6 месяцев назад
Love your stuff, good work 👍
@judithgiacomino3190
@judithgiacomino3190 6 месяцев назад
Brother Hilton, what is the title of the book you wrote that talks about Lehi’s (Nephi’s) Jerusalem? Have been unsuccessful in finding it anywhere. Thank you.
@johnhiltoniii
@johnhiltoniii 6 месяцев назад
It's called "Glimpses of Lehi's Jerusalem." I've linked to a free copy of it here: johnhiltoniii.com/thebookofmormon/class-3-1-nephi-1-5-now-i-know/
@judithgiacomino3190
@judithgiacomino3190 6 месяцев назад
Thank you very much! @@johnhiltoniii
@AgnesCongdon-xk8hr
@AgnesCongdon-xk8hr 6 месяцев назад
I get to write ✍ and do tomorrow's obsolete work daily.
@jeffturner8927
@jeffturner8927 7 месяцев назад
Maybe I’m missing something but I can’t understand why losing the 116 pages was a problem. Joseph Smith still had access to the plates so why couldn’t he just start again?
@johnhiltoniii
@johnhiltoniii 6 месяцев назад
This article could be helpful: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/lost-manuscript-of-the-book-of-mormon?lang=eng
@normanfobert7272
@normanfobert7272 6 месяцев назад
If Joseph Smith ‘re-translated’ the same portion and had any differences from the first translation it could be used by any enemy of the work in possession of the “lost” pages to criticize the work.
@deboraholsen2504
@deboraholsen2504 6 месяцев назад
The power of Satan is real. So if Joseph Smith had attempted to re-translate the lost portion, the old portion would have been compared to the new portion by evil people, which could have discredited him by people who do not care enough to thoroughly research before they condemn. Many, many people do this, and it would potentially keep the truth from even the righteous. In addition, prophets, although they are great servants of God and witnesses of Jesus Christ, this does not mean they can know the future in every instance. Therefore, it was too great a risk for Joseph to re-translate, for the above reasons. And even more importantly, God specifically told him not to do so, saying that evil men would try to thwart the truth. Isn’t all this enough evidence for you? You probably should study Church history from sources from the Church, if you still don’t see the gravity of the situation. A good source is “Revelations in Context”, a book by Matthew McBride and James Goldberg. Happy searching!
@brettpinion4233
@brettpinion4233 6 месяцев назад
There is no place on earth that fits the BOM because it is not true. Thankfully, there is truth found in the Bible and the eternal, all powerful, perfect, only true God can be found in it. There is NO archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, botanical or dna evidence to support the Book of Mormon. LDS anthropologist Dee Green: “The first myth we need to eliminate is that BOM archaeology exists” conceding 20 years of research “left us empty-handed” (Green 1969 p. 77) NO trace of Jewish dna found in any Indian burial ground anywhere in the Americas from time period of BOM. Thomas W. Murphy, (Mormon scholar, DNA researcher):“We are in a dilemma, the genetic evidence shows that American Indians are not Hebrews, they are not Israelites. The Book of Mormon is not true.” John Whitmer Historical Association Journal 2005 IS THE GOD OF THE BOOK OF MORMON THE SAME ONE AS IN THE BIBLE? NO! In the LDS Church’s 147th Conf., Gen Authority Bernard P. Brockbank said: the Christ followed by Mormons is NOT THE CHRIST followed by traditional Christianity. (Ensign, May 1977 p. 26) "Before me NO god was formed, nor shall there be ANY after me.” (Isaiah 43:10) If Mormonism is true, then God could not make this claim, for he was just a man at one point; nor could he claim that no gods would come after him, for that is the goal of LDS members. Like Joseph Smith, this was the goal of Satan, to be like God and have worshipers. "I will exalt my throne above the stars of God ... I will be like the Most High”’ (Isaiah 14:12-14) NO truth: Book of Abraham published with 3 facsimiles taken from an ancient papyrus. The book is a funerary papyrus showing scenes from the Egyptian Book of the Dead. In Facsimiles Nos. 1 & 3, Smith misidentifies everything depicted. "LDS and non-LDS Egyptologists agree that the characters on the fragments do not match the translation given in the book of Abraham" Quote from LDS OFFICIAL WEB PAGE NO trace of the “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2), with iron, brass, breast-plates, shields, and armor. It would be impossible for these millions of dead warriors in armor to leave no trace. NO trace of the great city Zarahemla- it would be impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla (Alma 5:2; D&C 125:3) to leave no trace. NO temple like Solomon's described in 2 Nephi 5:16 has ever been found yet biblical temple is easily seen in Jerusalem. If the temple Nephi describes ever existed it could not disappear. NO Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings ever found anywhere as it is not a real language anywhere in the world. NO cities mentioned in the BOM have ever been located (none of 38) anywhere. It would be impossible for them to disappear unless they never existed. NO evidence: "The whole land was covered with buildings, and the people were as numerous, as it were the sand of the sea." Yet not one ever located. (Mormon 1:7) IMPOSSIBLE for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) & MILLIONS of people to have vanished. The BOM speaks of sheep, swine, silk, wool clothing & elephants existing in the Americas when they did not. 1 Ne.13:7; Alma 4:6; Ether 9:17 and 10:24 These were brought to America centuries later by Europeans. NO wheat, no goats, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no steel swords, no cattle, no chariot parts, no brass (Mosiah 8:10) no evidence of the listed Kings in BOM, no Jewish relics or Jewish Temples from supposed Jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly used, no middle eastern seeds growing, "which were brought from the land of Jerusalem ... and grew exceedingly" 1 Nephi 18:24 CAN WE IGNORE THE LACK OF EVIDENCE FOR THE THE BOOK OF MORMON AND JUST TRUST OUR HEARTS AS TO THE TRUTH OF IT EVEN THOUGH IT CONFLICTS WITH THE BIBLE? NO! D&C Section 9:8-9 - tell us that if something is true it will make our "bosom burn" and we will FEEL that it is right. Maroni 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you" The Bible warns us against this subjective type of truth test. Why? Because we have a sinful nature that can be deceived. Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusts in his own (bosom) heart is a FOOL." The Scriptures, however, are infallible and can never be wrong (John 17:17; Psalm 119:128; 33:4; 19:8; Romans 3:4). This is why the Bible frequently urges us to study and meditate on God's word. 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV "STUDY ... rightly dividing the word of TRUTH." Acts 17:11 "EXAMINE THE SCRIPTURES to see if what said is TRUE". 1John 4:1 says: "BELIEVE NOT EVERY SPIRIT, ... because MANY FALSE PROPHETS have gone out into the world." Mormonism claims the bible was corrupted to justify Joseph Smith's changing of the biblical, eternal God into an evolving, created god, who is not all powerful and is one of an endless number of gods . However, this is a PROVABLY FALSE claim. The Claim: In the BOM, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed after the 12 apostles and after the formation of the “great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this is the Catholic Church formed in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the Devil (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine the Bible & BOM. BIBLE: The Dead Sea Scrolls have been dated to as early as 350 BC. One is the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known copy of the Book of Isaiah dated to 180 BC. Do ANY ancient scrolls show Smith's "uncorrupted" version of scripture? NO! Yet they would if the scripture was later corrupted after the 12 apostles died as Smith and Nephi said. Also, if they had been corrupted, Jesus would have corrected scripture instead of affirming it! Jesus sd:“ I told you EVERYTHING written about me in the Law of Moses, the Books of the Prophets, and in the Psalms had to happen.” (Luke 24:44-46) Scripture is the same today as it was 2,100+ years ago with only minor spelling and punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. These scrolls pre-dated Catholics, and are Jewish scrolls and the BOM says the Jews had the Scriptures in their "purity". 1Nephi 13:25 LDS Apologist Wayne Ham admitted the Isaiah scroll does not support the the BOM. Apologist Dr. Sidney B. Sperry, of BYU, said the Dead Sea Scrolls do not help the case for the BOM. BYU Professor Joseph F. McConkie: "Rather than Joseph Smith as Found in Ancient Manuscripts, it ought be Joseph Smith as Lost in Ancient Manuscripts.” (Religious Studies Center, 1984) The new testament has not been corrupted either. See the book of John. Smith changed it to make Jesus a created being. Research a 1900 year old papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri of the book of John. (written 150 AD, around the Apostle John's time) John 1:1 "In the BEGINNING was the WORD and the WORD was WITH God and the WORD WAS God." ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ (look up this ancient Greek yourself on google) John 1:1 Joseph Smith translation: "In the beginning was the GOSPEL preached through the Son. And the GOSPEL was the word, and the word was with the Son, and the Son was with God, and the Son was of God." Smith's Jesus is no longer God in the flesh but the biblical Jesus is: "God was manifest in the flesh" 1Tim. 3:16 KJV There are 4,000 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament. Some go back to 350 AD and NONE support Joseph Smith's claims that the bible of today has been corrupted. Papyrus fragments exist of the New Testament dated to 175 AD and show that the new testament has NOT been "corrupted". (New Testament Docs: Are They Reliable? Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1967 pp. 15-17) The manuscript and archeological evidence for the BIBLE is the GREATEST in antiquity. I pray you know the true Jesus and not Joseph Smith's exalted man from another planet who is not eternal, not all powerful, not perfect but evolving, and was polygamous. God is much greater than the humanoid of Mormonism and NOT just ONE OF AN ENDLESS NUMBER OF EVOLVING GODS. Jesus said ALL scripture will NOT fade away but "many wolves in sheep's clothing" will come trying to add to the word. Mathew 7:15 Joseph Smith changed Jesus, the Father and taught you can become a GOD. It hurts my heart to see Mormons fall for the lie that we can become God when there is only one eternal God found in the bible. "The only men who become Gods, even the sons of Gods are those that enter into polygamy." (Brigham Young) Journal of Discourses 11 p.269 Apostle Orson Pratt, in The Seer, page 172, “the great Messiah who was the founder of the Christian religion was a Polygamist…the Messiah chose to take upon himself his seed; and by marrying many wives, … The son followed the example of his Father" God gave us critical thinking & logical reasoning for a reason, which is why he does tell us to EXAMINE and TEST what we are being taught for TRUTH. The bible withstands the truth test. Joseph Smith's version fails the truth test. It's your eternity, study it for yourself. God bless.
@danacowles2848
@danacowles2848 6 месяцев назад
@@deboraholsen2504good explanation
@sharondoty7145
@sharondoty7145 6 месяцев назад
III nephi 28 suggests there could not have been a total apostasy... ??
@Jer-zp7zv
@Jer-zp7zv 6 месяцев назад
3rd Nephi 28 is so beautiful as Mormon tells us the account of the 12 apostles being granted their heart's desire by Jesus Christ and then talking about their mission which is continuing today. His description of their ministry to the lost tribes and the restoration in fulfilment of Isiah 29:14,15 is glorious. Mormons testimony or the fate of those that reject the Book of Mormon (3rd Nephi 28:31-35 is unbelievable and in conjunction with Nephi's in 2nd Nephi 33: 31-35 are my favorite scriptures. These 3 apostles were changed Mormon said that "insomuch that Satan could have no power over them" They are with us today.
@sharondoty7145
@sharondoty7145 6 месяцев назад
if they were around in Joseph Smith's day, saying ALL churches were wrong would have been a lie.
@donnavaughn9409
@donnavaughn9409 6 месяцев назад
why doesn't he ever blink?
@DelzaPauladaMotaSwallom
@DelzaPauladaMotaSwallom 5 месяцев назад
He's an angel 😇
@seugatalatasitoloa621
@seugatalatasitoloa621 6 месяцев назад
FAAFETAI TELE LAVA
@kj7653
@kj7653 2 месяца назад
John, I have enjoyed listening to these RU-vid presentations. BUT ... your examples of the importance of punctuation are in poor taste. (around 22) They are crass. Surely you could find better examples to prove your point.
@lauriefrost8822
@lauriefrost8822 6 месяцев назад
You have made many contributions to gospel scholarship. I was disappointed to see that in this master class, you neglect Joseph and Oliver’s statements that Joseph translated the plates with the Urim and Thummim which “came with the plates.” Joseph NEVER said he used the “seerstone” to translate. Yet you and so many scholars say he “used both,” as if both theories have reliable credibility. You reference unreliable, impeachable statements of Emma Smith, David Whitmer, & Martin Harris, alleging that Joseph “frequently” used the stone in a hat to “translate.” (“Translate” does not in any etymological way equate to “read words off a rock.”) You also use the frequently quoted but obviously unsubstantiated portrayal by Emma of Joseph as ignorant and illiterate. I respect your scholarship and feel you would benefit from a study of the works of lawyer and historian Jonathan Neville. He coauthored with another lawyer historian, James Lucas “By Means of the Urim and Thummim (Restoring Translation to the Restoration.”)
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