The Mist of Avalon Guide (Part 1) Mistress of Magic 

It should break your heart to find out about the author's crimes.

Hi new best friend. hahaha

I wept so hard at the end of Mists. I was young at the time in 8th grade, but I remember the similar feeling of the end of an era- there’s actually no word I can find for the odd grief.

Try the Lightbringer series next. And maybe Mistborn series too.

All I'll say is - Agreed!

Rothur The Paladin me too! I may be a little older- the movie was coming out around that time and I remember being thrilled my favourite book was going to be a movie. It was a TV movie but I personally found the costuming and the acting beautiful. When Morgaine was unable to get back to Avalon and her mother sees her on the side of the lake where she is a nun at the abbey. That was one of the most heart wrenching- I loved the acting so much.

I was so moved by the story when I first read it, but knowing what I know now, I find the idea of reading it to be nauseating.

Learning the truth about MZB was hard for me because when I first encountered "The Mists of Avalon" through the mini-series and later the book, both meant a lot to me and helped me on my spiritual path. It was heartbreaking to learn of not only the horrible things she had done, but to see the effects they had on her daughter. Her daughter, from what I've read and seen on RU-vid, has become extremely bigoted towards the LGBTQ+ community, Pagans, politically left-leaning people, making them all guilty by association because her parents happened to be in those groups. It's really sad that, rather than seeking full healing and proper professional help for her trauma, she's instead gone down the path of scapegoating entire communities for the monstrous acts of her parents. She's also become a hardcore Catholic, which seems super ironic to me given the Church's well-publicized, infamous cases of child sexual abuse. Of course, I don't blame her for any of these things, as everyone reacts to abuse differently, it's just tragic to me and seems to indicate she hasn't found peace yet, and I sincerely hope she does.

I didn't know about what she was/did until very recently (few years ago i found out about her husband, but I was kind of in denial, i guess? And then last month i found out about the whole thing and had a huge crisis. Didn't try and re-read Mists again (and I've been doing it every year since 2001) cause I'm afraid i won't be able to separate things in my mind. Which is really sad, cause it's my favorite book series

@@KassWinnie I have to think that Bradley was channeling from a greater source when she wrote the book. It's so full of wonderful ideas about women, the old religion, a classic fantasy tale, etc., that it seems hard to believe those things could come only from the brain of such a horrible person. I tried to re-read the book and all I could picture was MZB unwinding from a long day of writing by doing gods-know-what to her child. It was an especially troubling image to me because I'm a writer myself and after a long, productive day, I unwind with a good dinner or a hot bath or a few drinks--you know, things normal people do. I could never picture myself closing my word document for the day and turning around to do unspeakable evils that completely contradict what I'd just written. At least an author like, say. H.P. Lovecraft wove his own asshole-ish views into his stories. Bradley presented this wonderfully egalitarian world in her depiction of the old religion, showing Avalon as a place where children are brought to be trained to their best strengths, of their own free will, where no harm comes to them. But once she stepped away from her typewriter . . . ugh, it's just awful to think about.

I read it as a teenager, and reread it last yer, 20 odd years later. It wasn't as good as I remembered and certain things about the writing irritated me, though I loved the story's pretext and points of view. However I knew nothing about the things you mention, and having now found out what the accusations are I have to say I am sickened, and had I known I would never have reread it - especially as I was nursing my baby daughter at the time. A truly horrible story about Bradley.

your loss. and you're limiting yourself, frankly, by only reading people who pass your virtue tests. so well done for taking a stand about an allegation from the past about a dead person. we all think you are gandhi.

+MrTonyInchpractice True, good art sometimes comes from artist that are terrible people which is ok because art is in the eyes of the beholder not the creator.

I think you are making an assumption about my personality that just isn't true (I find someone accusing me of all people of virtue signaling as humorous), and while I I am not really appreciative of the slightly hostile tone you have taken with my comment, I will say it has made me think on my stance on this for a moment. If we were being 100% truthful here, the real reason why I won't read this is because I am not fond of reading Arthurian legends. It just isn't my cup of tea. And while I do indeed care about the allegations levied against the author (considering a lot of the evidence and accusations seem credible), I realized in saying such that I have put myself in a bit of a hypocritical position since I read Lovecraft, who was widely known to be a racist. Now, if we were going to rank atrocities in a hierarchy, I would say that sexual assault is a few rungs higher than Lovecraft's closet racism so I actually still may well be within the right in saying that I will not read the works of an alleged rapist as determined by rules I place on myself that are in line with my own beliefs, BUT that still doesn't really excuse the content of the original comment which was typed in self error. So I will restate my stance now that I have thought this through a little more, what I meant to say was, "I am glad you are covering this. I am probably not going to read this series due to my preferences in the fantasy genre, and plus on a more minor note, the author has been accused of sexual assault against her own daughter so I am just glad to get a nice overview here of what this series is about." So whether you intended to or not, give yourself a pat on the back. You managed to shift my stance on this.

lol at ur denial of virtue signalling in the same message as talking about victimhood hierarchies. i think u'd really enjoy this book- it moans about hierarchies, male dominance, it's anti-christian a bit- there's probably even a rape scene so u can wring ur hands vicariously at the toxicity of masculinity... pretty sure my assumptions are near the mark.

Yes! ❤

I second the Chronicles of Amber by Roger Zelazny.

DOSBoxMom may I recommend that you read them all!! They are all amazing

I'll have to do that!

some of them weren't written by the zimmer. and some of them are a bit samey.

The sequels were cowritten by Marrion Zimmer Bradley and Diana L Paxton. Diana Paxton continued the series after Bradley passed away.

five points for you! she was a good friend of hers, wasn't she? same coven or something lol.

It's not when she is dying, but when Uther is dying that he appears to her and she recognises him from a past life. Vivienne herself is murdered years later by Balan in front of Arthur's throne. If my memory serves, at the very end of the book, Morgaine realises that she didn't fail Avalon and the Goddess has not abandoned mankind, but simply wears another face as Mary the Virgin.

Also, have you read the prequel, Lady of Avalon? It's about Viviane's life as a young woman. As a priestess in training, Viviane meets the Roman chief Vortimer, who ends up dying in her arms of sepsis. Same thing happens, she sees his face at the moment of his death and realises that they knew each other in a past life and she didn't spot it. So her vision of Uther at his death is actually the second time she's failed to recognise her reincarnated lover . I mean, come on, get it together, Viviane!

@@chooseyourpoison5105 Viviane, despite her efforts, always fails epically when it comes to love, both showing or recognizing it. It's so sad...

Bright Glory good serie

well obviously.

Ixor779 yes don’t think it was sci fy

It was TNT, but yeah it was a pretty well done adaptation.

It wasn't bad, though it did trim the story back quite a bit. It's a long book that even a miniseries can't cover all of.

Cardinal Doomsday. Ahh. I kinda enjoyed the movie. Some great actresses. Nothing compares to the books tho.

Movie? Movies? Anyways, my brain choose just to erase the memories..

She's on Her way! :-)