The MLM2PRO has one major problem…. 

My standard reply in the facebook group is "gotta pop it up into the air" when chipping with MLM2Pro. Short bump and runs simply do not read reliably, need to scoop it the air with a more lofted chip and the reads are far more reliable.

i agree joe the chipping was much more stable a couple of firmware upgrades ago..thanks for the video and highlighting the issue

Thanks for highlighting this and testing it systematically!

I’ve noticed the same thing lately also, my chip shots in GSPro have been very frustrating lately.

Thank you for testing Joe! You tell it like it is! 😉 I have not used my MLM2Pro since the golf season started (it’s short here in Canada so you have to get your rounds in quick!😂) This motivated me to do a quick test myself because chipping was perfect for me when I last left my garage. For info: App 2.10.8 FW 3.8.20 I hit into a canvas and project to a tv in front of me. My ball sits 8’ from LM I have about 12’ to the canvas. I used a Prov1 w/ ball dots. I used a 60 LW I tested with both GSpro and Rapsodo target range like you. Results: No issues, same as I had last left it, I’m happy to say! Even chips less than 2yd (9 mph ball speed) registered. I checked and the ball was not even in the alignment window… it was above it. I the repositioned the LM so the ball was in the middle of the box and had no issues either. When I checked the impact vision, the club would hit the ball by the time it reached a 1/4 of the total capture. This left plenty of ball tracking time, which I estimated was about 1.5 revolutions… That I believe is the key but I have no idea why some get less ball capture… or why it could vary from one day to the next??? I feel fortunate and grateful because I bought mine some time ago so I did struggle with connectivity problems and bad chipping!!! Now with Springbok’s connector, playing GSpro is a breeze! I’m really sorry for those struggling! I wish I could have figured something out during testing… then again I don’t believe that one should have to resort to “witchcraft” to have this work!? 😉

Have you tried it without that annoying spotlight? Maybe its confusing the auto focus by dropping out of the light mid flight?

Thanks, Joe. If it were just the failures to read, I could live with the Rapsodo. But the three things driving me away from continuing to play GS Pro with the Rapsodo MLM2 Pro are way out of line spins on short chip or pitch shots 11-12, 000 spin on a 13 yard carry shot and 300 yard plus pitches when practicing 25-35 yard pitches in GSPRO. These happen when I supinate my left wrist closing the club face. When you playing a scored round, these two failures make the unit unusable. The third is really bad customer support. I'm using RPT balls, Claire's leveler, and my ball is within the white box. I also have the latest firmware version for the Rapsodo MLM2 Pro and the latest Springbok connector.

My guess is it is something to do with the club speed. I have noticed that the video clip is registering more of the club movement and not so muc of the ball. Maybe you could see if there is a certain club speed where it doesn't register using one of your other monitors. All the shots that registered seemed to be over 11mph

The chipping is what made me return my MLM2Pro. I could deal with it myself but it was so frustrating when I’d play with friends and family and we’d have misreads. To compensate, you’d have to chip it too far because it reads longer chips better. So we’d be chipping over the green completely, then from the other side we’d chip it over the green the other way to land on the original spot. 😂 When you’re introducing sim golf to people who haven’t tried it and are used to real golf, it makes a bad first impression on them. Once I got a different launch monitor I had to convince them to give it another try.

Agree with all your comments in the video. Very frustrating for the individuals working on there short game nippers. 15yards and in. Thanks Joe

I just recently got an MLM2pro and have only had this latest firmware. I tried a few more things to solve my chipping issues: I added carpet to cover up all the garage concrete from the mlm's view I raised the mlm unit up to my mat hitting height, and tried even a little higher too I hit shots closer and further away from the mlm's "optimum distance" I tried toe down chips with a 60, i tried regular chips with a 60, i tried pitch and runs with a 7/8 I tried with gspro connecting with springbok's latest BT connector, and I tried with the rapsodo software on the new target range. none of these seem to make any difference. 8/10 no reads... 2/10 really wild reads with 80-100 mph ball speed and shots that run across the ground.

I have trouble with target range pitching. It makes me sad since I was excited to work on wedge work.

What I found helped with gspro was to not use the LW club, some reason it doesn’t seem to like it.

I have the same issues, i also have issues with some of my drives aslos. I also get a blue light then it will go green

I was just about ready to upgrade from my Garmin R10 to the MLM2Pro. Seemed the logical next step in my simulator journey. Having watched this video and the previous Joe Lagowski video (Playing 18 holes on GSPro) I am now very hesitant. I thought all the reconnect and no reads (especially chipping) had been basically resolved. Think I will stay with the Garmin for a few more months!

Joe. Are you able to check impact vision chip shot from when it was working ok to now to see if there is any difference?

Do you suppose the ball position at rest can be an issue? What I mean is if more dots are visible at the "top" of the ball while the club is approaching the ball. Perhaps if you viewed the impact camera when shots are captured versus when they are not. I think I noticed there was a lot of white showing on the ball when the club was approaching the ball. Good luck, thanks. Ray

I’m experiencing the same problem with chipping. It’s very frustrating because it appeared to be resolved in previous updates but has now returned 😢

Not to worry- they’ll have an optional chipping subscription soon so you only have to pay a little bit extra for perfect chipping :-P 😂

I have the latest upgrade and had only several chipping misreads over the course of the round and it was at the beginning of play!

Noticed this as well, thanks for highlighting this issue Joe, hopefully Rapsodo will fix this issue. Only thing I found was it was more reliable with more ball height, not easy to do on short shots.

I am still having trouble with distance been emaiing them back and forth and coming up with nothing. If i shot it 20 to 40 yrds off. On my pw to 5 iron bthere is on 30 to 40 yrd difference. I have someone else hit and it reads his within 5 yrds of his actual distance off his clubs, it reads his 5 iron at 180 yrds. When we go golf on we hit similar yrds with same clubs. I got 2 day before my 30 daya return is up, im thinking about returning it. It too bad i really like the features of it

I have some questions about how you have your rapsodo set up. Been playing with my setup and I'm trying to determine what distances I should have everything set up to. (Unfortunately I have to tear down and set up every time I use the unit). How far from your screen are you? How far behind you is the rapsodo? Do you have the rapsodo sitting directly on the ground or is it up on something? Thanks for the input and the video! Also I'm curious if it may be the low lighting of your setup that could cause some of these intermittent issues? I've been using my rapsodo strictly hitting into an outdoor net setup I have going across my car patio. About the only time I see issues like this is when I'm hitting later in the evening and it's getting dark outside. I actually have more issues with it reading high club head speed hits than slower ones. It seems every time I get a solid high speed driver shot it doesnt know what to do with it. Again thanks for the video and I feel the pain! I hate it when the unit doesnt read a shot (always seems to be the good ones that it misses lol ...never the bad ones ...)

Just for testing, I wonder if elevating the unit and angling it slightly down would yield the same results? This almost seems like they should change its code so that anything under 8 yards it will rely mostly on radar and if it has to, omit spin.

My mlm seems to be really good on these small chips , even inside gspro , the one thing that is currently making my mlm almost unusable for sim is it will randomly give me 12k spin on the driver , which as you would imagine drops 300y shots down to like 210

Joe for me I've noticed on short chips the club seems to block the ball from being picked up by the mlm2pro. If I add loft or distance then it picks it up. Thx for the vids

The hardware is great, all they need is to dial in the software and this will be the best value LM. Chipping is rough sometimes and I swear it was better a couple updates ago

I have an r10. Is it worth upgrading to the mlm pro or old SkyTrak or memo plus. I run on an iPad and don’t want a computer

It does not track chipping at all even using special chrome soft Rapsodo balls

I feel like if I slow my back swing down and almost give the camera more time to register the ball before my downswing and impact then it reads better. Also for some reason when I finish my follow thru and kind of hold my final position with the club head out front. It’s definitely weird and I don’t want to change my swing to suite the device.

It is definitely inconsistent. I don't know anything about how it knows when to start recording. I wonder if it starts at a certain mph to help with club wagglers.

yeah, it's completely put me off with the lack of chipping reading. Need to replace my OG Skytrak. Might just bit the bullet on an Eye Mini LIte

ive been getting the same inconsistency

If you're a person that wants the MLM2PRO for more "full swing" types of practice (omitting chipping altogether), does it still work OK? I could see myself buying this thing, primarily for range-type work (not for simulated rounds, but the simulated driving range). I have a friend who has one, and the combine and driving range looked really awesome and seemed fairly accurate to me.

I had one but i've sold it for an eye mini lite as it was to frustrating

Chipping was one of the many reasons why I jumped ship from MLM2Pro to a GC2. I don't want to change my swing to hit a ball in a way that might or might not help a launch monitor pickup a shot. GC2 gets them all and has native putting. Plus no subscription and no fear of a firmware update ruining the performance.

How are you connected. My buddy and I bought one at the same time he was using WiFi and I was using direct connect. He had all kinds of problems and I had virtually no issues.

does the ball have to hit the impact screen for it to measure?

So I'm not updating yet

I really wanna sell the Garmin R10 and get the Rapsodo for more accuracy with spin axis but seeing this I dont know what to do...My R10 never misses shots, not even little chips...

Same issue at the moment, unfortunately.

I’m having the same issue