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The Modern Misfiring of Chekhov's Gun | Trope Notes 

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@CloudKitten
@CloudKitten 2 года назад
I couldn't think of all that many methods for hiding guns or subverting them, so if you think of something I missed or have one you really love, drop a comment!
@ashwinarun9649
@ashwinarun9649 Год назад
You have the deepest writer advice videos. If you get enough writers as fans, that itself will get you a lot of readers from that pool. If you don't consistently post videos. RU-vid algorithm will unbless you. Whatever the consistency- whether it's one video a week or one video or month.... Stay consistent in it I miss your videos. Your videos are like a Bible to me and many others
@sonoio869
@sonoio869 2 года назад
I dont know, i think that principle still holds up, even though not making the set up so sbvoius is absolutely better, the worst stories i have aver seen were the ones that made stuff up out of nowhere because they tried to be quirky and wanting to "subvert our expectations" and when they didn't shot the gun it always comes up as a waste of time for an unfanny joke for me
@CloudKitten
@CloudKitten 2 года назад
I agree that obvious setups definitely still require payoffs. I think we just need to get more clever with hiding them because audiences are getting too good at predicting outcomes.
@sonoio869
@sonoio869 2 года назад
@@CloudKitten absolutely, i said that because i would rather see a story that has everything played out to the audience and that makes sense rather than the exact opposite 😊
@ashwinarun9649
@ashwinarun9649 Год назад
If you don't consistently post videos. RU-vid algorithm will unbless you. Whatever the consistency- whether it's one video a week or one video or month.... Stay consistent in it
@CloudKitten
@CloudKitten 2 года назад
PS: I know that no one is ready to process Inside, so forgive me my transgressions. But I couldn't not reference it
@JoshuaGoudreau
@JoshuaGoudreau 2 года назад
I'm so glad I started watching your videos. You are one of the most engaging and fun writing advice channels without sacrificing the actual informational parts
@thebraxtonater8466
@thebraxtonater8466 Год назад
Hey Megan! I hope you are well!
@brittvaughn9447
@brittvaughn9447 Год назад
Just found your channel and love the vids. Lemme just say, starting this video now, that it'll be a pure tragedy if you don't mention Arcane in this context. Of course, I think Arcane should be mentioned in every context, so there's that. 😅 They just did such an amazing job of creating those guns and then having them go off with their natural consequences.
@brittvaughn9447
@brittvaughn9447 Год назад
YES! 💨
@CloudKitten
@CloudKitten Год назад
I wish I could have mentioned Arcane WAY more, but I didn't want spoilers to get too out of hand. I could probably do an entire video on just the Chekhov's guns in Arcane though. That show is truly a master-class in everything from writing to visuals
@a.j.torres3131
@a.j.torres3131 2 года назад
Oooh thank you for the new vid Megan ❤🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤🤍
@CloudKitten
@CloudKitten 2 года назад
And thank you for the view and colorful comment
@a.j.torres3131
@a.j.torres3131 2 года назад
@@CloudKitten You're very welcome 😘
@blaiseandthebambina
@blaiseandthebambina Год назад
Hey girl. Where have you been? We miss you and your great content. Everything ok?!?
@CloudKitten
@CloudKitten Год назад
Thank you for asking
@DyeBlue
@DyeBlue 2 года назад
I love your videos! They are interesting, fun and seem very thoroughly researched 😄. This one made me think about literature in general, and also about some potential twists and red herrings I could carefully thread into my WIP. Thank you!
@MWinklerBooks
@MWinklerBooks 2 года назад
YAY! I missed your videos! this was fun to watch. I'm half asleep though, so I'll have to watch it again to make any meaningful comments on the actual content.... so..... um, bye 😅
@CloudKitten
@CloudKitten 2 года назад
Hey that gives me an extra view so don't mind. Also this one is pretty fast paced so a second viewing is probably beneficial anyways. Thank you so much for stopping by and being the first viewer and commenter
@MWinklerBooks
@MWinklerBooks 2 года назад
Anytime 😁 I just watched it again, but your mentioning the video about how to make readers cry intrigued me, so now I'm watchign that and taking notes.🤩 As for this video, I love the cutaway for revealing secrets. Actually made me laugh out loud. So perfect. Chekhov's Guns are like a mini game we play with the audience/reader. When I'm consuming content, I'm always trying to guess which details are actual CGs. When they're obvious, the game is to figure out when they'll be fired as soon as possible. As a writer... yeah, it's so hard to get them in there so they're not obvious but have the right payoff. Thanks for all the examples. I took notes and will definitely be refering to them as I work on finishing this series. ❤❤
@tropetrinitytrilogy8533
@tropetrinitytrilogy8533 2 года назад
I've seen videos about Chekhov's Gun before, but never one about concealing it from the savvy reader/viewer. This was great! I hope you're doing well!
@CloudKitten
@CloudKitten 2 года назад
Thank you! I am well, though just moved and got a new puppy, so things are pretty hectic lol
@tropetrinitytrilogy8533
@tropetrinitytrilogy8533 2 года назад
@@CloudKitten ooh! What does your puppy look like? Also I'm moving soon too so I can relate lol
@bilalkhares4932
@bilalkhares4932 Год назад
I really don't mind not being surprised
@CloudKitten
@CloudKitten Год назад
I think it really varies genre to genre and story to story. Not being surprised isn't an issue so long as the story is providing well in other areas. But predictability lends itself to forgettability and is something writers need to be cautious of.
@PartridgeQuill
@PartridgeQuill 2 года назад
Welcome back! Glad to see you making videos again!
@CloudKitten
@CloudKitten 2 года назад
Same. Hopefully I can keep it up this time around lol
@5Gburn
@5Gburn 8 месяцев назад
My reaction to your coming-up-on-two-years' absence: Rose to Jack: "Come back...come back!"
@CloudKitten
@CloudKitten 7 месяцев назад
I am working on ramping back up, and comments like this help keep me motivated. So thank you
@ashwinarun9649
@ashwinarun9649 Месяц назад
🎉​@@CloudKitten
@Sailortwilight
@Sailortwilight 2 года назад
I'm so glad that you're back again!!!
@CloudKitten
@CloudKitten 2 года назад
Same! now if I could just stay back that would be good lol
@AntonWongVideo
@AntonWongVideo 2 года назад
ok, I can see that you're really progressing and getting better at making videos! those meme moments!
@CloudKitten
@CloudKitten 2 года назад
Thabk you! Trope notes tend to be easier to meme than some other topics, but I'm working on getting a better eye for it. I've been 'studying' meme compilations in my procrastination time.
@theothercomicguy
@theothercomicguy 2 года назад
Very much enjoyed this, thank you 👍
@JennJarrett
@JennJarrett 2 года назад
the internet song references had me cackling! Great video! my muse is stirring!
@CloudKitten
@CloudKitten 2 года назад
I saw the opportunity and it would have been criminal to not seize it.
@EvoluteCreator
@EvoluteCreator 2 года назад
I'm so happy I found your channel! I love it! And you're very underrated
@CloudKitten
@CloudKitten 2 года назад
Aww thank you!
@animanya394
@animanya394 Год назад
The word choice in this video is just bizarre… But more importantly: that’s not what Chekhov’s gun means! You would know this, if you cared to read even a Wikipedia article. Then you would know that a) the first gun he was talking about was a specific monologue in a specific play, b) he was only, only and only referring to plays, he never used the word “chapter”, only “play” and “stage”, and c) he repeated it throughout his career so talking about “just three lines” is maddeningly incorrect. That’s just the most glaring mistakes. Terrible video.
@thebraxtonater8466
@thebraxtonater8466 Год назад
But it applies to books too. My editor mentioned it in the comments of my end of the copy edits. If something is stated it’s going to happen therefore it must. Or something like that.
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