Also, Giorno vs Goku depends on what you count for both. Mainline canon is a stalemate, Heroes Goku beats canon Giorno, and Novel Giorno beats all forms of Goku.
Giorno can absolutely kill Goku,since stands can be made intangible, Giorno can easily destroy Goku heart while he is in the revert action,killing Goku
@@badroboudjerda4394 That's not how it works, GER is a ghost, so it goes straight through goku's body straight to the heart and just, stops it. Of course Goku has to stay in the same spot long enough for that to happen
@@NulnhilityOh stop it, Stand intangibility is one of the most inconsistent things in JoJo's. It doesn't help that Gold Experience had to open Polpo's safe to turn the gun into a banana, showing that he HAD to open it, not just phase right through it. Also, point still stands, Goku's durability is too high. GER would need great amounts of strength to do anything to Goku's insides.
@@isabellejoestar2455 Well aware Stand Intangibility is wacky. Still, GE creates life, could just make another heart virus. Still doesn't solve the issue of Goku being too fast but eh
The guy forgot to mention if you kill one of Giornos life forms he creates than you take the same damage so if he creates a billion ants and you kill just one you’d die too
@@ZeallustImmortalNot really? Giorno's fights were always too busy and chaotic for him to immediately use the damage reflection ability. A lot of enemies were targeting him and wouldn't give him time to create stuff like frogs.
Any sort of attack directed towards the user or stand will be nullified and returned to zero But I see what you are saying because the deathnote book is like WOU calamity can touch giorno BUT GER the stand itself is sentient so it would help it's user and normal ge can create life GER probably can return life
Yall forgetting ger literally shot lasers out of a pebble and turned it into scorpions 💀 sure the stand isnt insanely strong but he can do enough dmg to harm them. i mean if he shot a laser at goku and scorpions bit him, goku doesnt have immunity to deadly scorpions im pretty sure..
@@getawayfromme44Goku has been hurt by relatively mundane means on multiple occasions, his durability is much lower outside of combat. Hes been scratched by regular gunshots even recently in the story by being caught off guard. A scorpion probably isnt gonna sting harder than a bullet though, and the bullets literally only scratched him. GE is kinda weird and can make animals that dont really exist too, in theory could make a scorpion with super specific saiyan slaying venom and an unreasonably sharp stinger. But thats a stretch lol The more dangerous thing would be if Goku attacked the scorpion, because attacking the life forms GE makes reflects the damage to you instead. Its not very consistent though.
"a stalemate" when they're trapped in an infinite loop 💀 its more like a one-sided soft lock. he doesn't need to do anything to anyone bcs he can literally live in his own world. thats not a stalemate. it's a utopia, an eternal victory. maybe a curse, i mean, the arrowhead literally CRAWLED INTO HIM. 😭💀
Y’all talking about RTZ ability like it can’t reset calamity, it can. Everything that’s ever a possibility can be reset. Time, space, people, danger. Literally everything can be reset to zero. GER can move faster than time it’s self to negate danger by reversing it to zero
The problem is that requires logic and Calamity is logic, and even RTZ has to make sense to work, so if we use Jojo metaphysics then GER loses to calamity.
"I think Goku could still beat him cuz bro the stuff Goku been doin-" well Goku wouldnt be doing anything lol. GER probably couldnt beat Goku, but Goku wouldnt be beating GER either. GER is hype and awesome, but im glad it only existed for a short time. Would be no fun to have this guy running around for the rest of the show lmao
a genjutsu but it's real is incredibly accurate. and something that didn't get mentioned is Giorno has a damage reflection ability, it's a bit tricky since it has to be something he bestowed life on but like in the first fight of part 5 a man accidentally kills himself by hitting a frog Giorno was hiding on his body. so anyone who cannot survive a hit they can dish out isn't gonna be living through a fit with giorno. (think like the third raikage striking himself with the ultimate spear)
GER is heavily misunderstood stand, bro it's not even nearly the strongest one in it's own verse (not even mentioning whole anime/manga verse) , some don't even rank it even as top 10 stand. My view on this is that it's below time stoppers but above Diavolo. That would put it like this in my eyes: 1. Soft and Wet: Go Beyond 2. Wonder of U 3. Tusk act 4 4. D4C: Love train 5. Made in heaven 6. Star Platinum/The World (yes, Star Platinum even after GER was said in Stone Ocean to have time stop, which is the strongest stand ability ever seen; of course until Made in Heaven came up; not to mention rtz wasn't able to do anything in even time skip, but right after it, which proved lethal to Diavolo since Diavolo can attack only outside of time skip unlike Jotaro/DIO can do in time stop, whatever they want; also GER's reaction just gets very very heavily speed blitzed by Pucci; with the top 4, they all basically have just higher dimensionality hax being low multiversal at bare minimum; not even gonna mention Wonder of U and Soft and Wet since that would be just unfair to even compare; so yea, the strongest character Giorno beats is Diavolo which even narratively makes sense, GER is perfect stand to counter King Crimson which all requiem arrow is about, to overcome your obstacles) 7. Gold Experience Requiem 8. King Crimson 9. Weather Report and Heavy Weather 10. Killer Queen: Bites the dust (assuming Kira has stand user nearby but doesn't have bites the dust attached to him yet, it would be pretty damn tough to rank this stand otherwise, it's basically all about reaction time)
Time has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH REALITY we clearly seen in the intro and the show that inside of diavolo time erase attempt to attack giorno THE STAND SPEAKS FOR ITSELF so it's SENTIENT it's not a normal stand anymore you can see reality building itself back around giorno the only reason we can see space in the background because of the term "bending time and space" so even THE WORLD AND STAR PLATINUM can and will have there time stop removed it would be like they never even used time stop at all because time stop and erasing time is not that different from each other I think you miss understand what GER capabilities are...not to mention any action toward GER such as a punch or even being in range of a time stop will be nullified then RTZ(Return to zero)
he couldnt do anything because it wasnt damaging giorno at all. ger can see the future and knows nothing will happen to the user, d4c cant do nun to ger and the top 2 would be 1 WOU 2 ger or soft and wet and 3 d4c
also king crimsons destroys star platinum and the world, he can see the future and see when they will stop time. when they do he will simply delete time and they cant do nothing about it, also it can be used to directly atack sp and tw
Also saying GER is not strong enough to damage naruto would be A SEVERE UNDERSTATEMENT. Since according to Death Battle (i konw lot of ya wont like this since its true) they scaled silver chariot's (another stand feom part 3) speed which ended up being 15 FKN THOUSAND TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT! Since star platinum was able to match silver chariot's speed,and dio's THE WORLD being faster than star platinum,AND CONSIDERING GER IS SAID TO BE THE STRONGEST STAND YET IN THE MAIN JOJO UNIVERSE, A nd considering stone free, a stand weaker than star platinum can throw punches WITH SEVERAL FKN HUNDREDS OF MEGATONS OF FORCE AT ALMOST AT THE SAME SPEED, AND GER BEING THE STRONEST STAND IN THE MAIN JOJO UNIVERSE, I NOT ONLY THINK...NO..KNOW THAT GER CAN DEFINITELY PUNCH FAST AS FK AND ALSO PUNCH HARD AS FK I DEFINITELY KNOW GER WOULD DEAL AN ABSOLUTE FATAL BLOW, HE DEFINITELY CAN AND WILL DEFEAT ANYONE COMING HIS WAY! Also considering non stand users cant see or interact or not even sense stands, goku, and other characters who are apparently "unbeatable" would have a hard time doing sh*t. AND SINCE STAND CAN BE INTANGIBLE WITH OBJECTS, AND GOKU HAVING PROBLEM WITH HIS HEART SOME TIMES, GER CAN JUST PUT HIS HAND THROUGH GOKU'S CHEST AND JUST DESTROY HIS HEART LIKE A BALLOON! Hope this cleared any of your misconceptions😊
Characters can't beat Giorno and Giorno's strength can't beat the characters with high defenses with his strength. But the thing is that Giorno's another ability which manipulate life can pull a uno reverse card. That sht is literally full counter His abilities in simple is that Stand : Just a ghost who can touch u Life From Manipulation : Just using life energy to what ever he want(Making body parts,healing,creating creatures etc) Life froms' passive : Uno Reverse Card or full counter but just 1x dmg Return To Zero : Na Uh Infinity Death Loop : It is an canon event
Giorno's hability is that you'll do one action, let's take the example of Diavolo, he knew that he'll kill Giorno, but when? Never He'll kill him, but never, that way he saw him killing Giorno in the future, also he'll die, but when? Never, that means that Diavolo "teleports" just before he dies
Stop the false facts dragon ball fans. Its confirmed because goku will lose to giorno, even with ultra instinct or his strongest form. It will appear the he had never had the form and he will be back to his base form, while giorno would kill goku through his body. But if gio is there giorno will lose you think someone that can be that powerful and controls the whole universe into his energy and hurt someone that controls reality itself? Good try that will never happen
bro is complicating it too much, Suppose goku does a kamehameha, GER does reverts everything back to normal. Basically goku always tried to do a kamehameha but GER just keep reverting everything back to normal. so goku just keeps on trying to do a kamehameha but GER prevents him to do that
I believe Saitama can defeat Giorno. Most people are misunderstanding Saitama's power, it's not just he's really strong. He actually has the ability to overcome reality (he can break through Phoenix Man's dimension and grab Garou's hyperspace portal). Basically the absolute plot armor, so Saitama will not and cannot lose to anyone (except Poorness)
Giorno can just revert any damage done to him,since Giorno doesn't need to sense Saitama and considering GER has its own consciousness, and also Saitama can't even sense or let alone see stands, and also considering GER can punch fast as more than 15 thousand times speed of light, Giorno can cause some damage surely
@@haventwatchedonepieceyet3552 you clearly didn't understand my comment. Just as I said, what Saitama has isn't absolute power but rather absolute force. Just like Soft & Wet: Go Beyond, he will just casually punch Giorno
Anyone who wants to fight and harm Giorno or GER there actions are hit with a NO, he can reverse any action. Also Goku can't just say no to that, so it's a stalemate
This guy kinda put it in an odd way I would have said that his ability makes it so any action with the intent to hurt giorno or GER is automatically cancelled and makes it so that action never happens
Or something with insanely high durability. Cause GER is a TEMPORARY ability. He doesn’t just have access to it at all times. He has to have constant access to the arrow for it to be prolonged. If your defense is high enough, you can outlast GER and beat him
@@John-fo4wpIt isn’t temporary, when the arrow got taken away from fully transformed silver charriot requiem he didn’t return to normal silver chariot. They never even said that ger returns to golden experience after the arrow is dropped and don’t take inspiration from the games ger returns to normal because else it would be too op just like why you can’t use rtz in the jojo games because giorno would be too op in the games.
@@gargamella69 prove it than on how GER beats them, do some research than make a comment about how GER beats them. As for now I’m going to rest and when I wake up in about 10 hours, I’m going to check if you made a comment, if you don’t make a comment on how GER beats them in the next 10 hours, than I can say for sure you don’t have a answer on how GER beats them.
@@comments930 Lets start telling u my personal Top strongest stands: 1-GER 2-MIH 3-TA4/KC 4-TW/SP 5-CREAM/D4C/B.I.G. 6-CMOON/HEAVY WHETHER 7-WOU/S&W GER Is stated to be the strongest stand by the databook, its called *The Definitive Stand That Turns Everything in Nothing*, his stats surpass all existing stands, he can out Speed MIH, he can out precision SP, he can out streaght TA4 and so on. He was able to move in a space where time doesnt exist, making his Speed Immensurable and also 4D/5D (depends on how u wanna scale him). Return to 0 Is a WILL biased ABILITY, of u have the intention to cause harm to GER or Giorno, Rt0 activates and everything will go the the point "0" (ex: the fight against Diavolo), since GER Is 4D, hes above concepts, WOU can cause harm to all that Is 3D (all that exists), S&W Go Beyond makes mini CREAM (same shit, cant sense It, cant touch It, like of It doesnt exist but still exist).
Basically GER's ability is "nope". Frieza destroyed the earth => No he didn't Sukuna used his domain => Never happened. Madara used his Susano => What's that? Giorno doesn't need to know he's being targeted, the stand knows and it WILL find you. Not aiming at Giorno and instead trying to hit him with the after effect, attacking from far away, or trying to attack him without malice don't work either So long as Giorno will be affected by it, it didn't happen. The second ability is if he beats you up. You get thrown into a time loop where you die constantly Oh and it isn't Genjutsu. You don't think you attacked, you did attack, GER simply altered reality
@@yacineyk9680 Oh hey a fellow JJK fan. How do you do? About the domains nullifying techniques. They don't. That's the main reason fallen blossom emotion works as a way to survive in domains. Domains overpower regular cursed techniques for 3 reasons : - The guaranteed hit effect that spawns an attack on your body - The environment of the domain buffing the technique - And attack speed, since it automatically spams your cursed technique on any valid target with a sheer output that a normal human cannot match. Fallen blossom emotion conditions your CE to use your technique to counter any attack that touches you, creating a semi automatic spam that doesn't need your conscious action, thus replicating the attack speed of a domain. Guess what works the same way? GER's negation. I think you're referring to how it specifically counters limitless. But that's because it relies on slowing down approaching attacks before they reach the body, it thus cannot stop an attack that spawns on the body itself.
first of all, FBE is cursed energy manipulation and it's not specified that you need a CT to actually counter the effects of a domain expansion, and when you have literal existence erasure slashes (not just space) that WILL hit you no matter what, and I don't really think conditioning your CE would be enough to stop this kind of attack that is illogical which we know GER is logical in how it works. @@animeworld5847
Depending on how the death loop actually operates, it could also be interpreted as either multi-dimensional or even universe creation, assuming Diavolo isn’t just teleporting all over earth forever to experience this. Or it could be a kind of illusion placed on his soul, which is a whole other can of worms.
The funny thing is, Golden experience operates on its own, even if you kill Giorno, if you get the chance, it survives, all of its stats are nullified, meaning basically anything, and he doesn’t have to kill you, like Trish said, she felt Diavolo still attached to the mortal plane, meaning he was actually alive each and every time
The only way to beat ger would to be far away and be strong enough to blow up the planet ger seems to not be able to affect things he isnt aware of So with his freeza example if freeza showed up and no warning blew up the earth giorno would die
No it doesn't work that way. GER is said to be completely automatic, Giorno awares it or not, it won't change a thing. Like Diavolo's time skip, in the skipped time, Giorno doesn't aware anything but GER is completely fine on its own. And it's not GER that has the awareness, it's just every attempt to harm Giorno directly or indirectly will not happen. So Freeza attacks from afar or not, won't make any different, if it can harm Giorno then it won't happen and that's it. The only way to beat Giorno is to not attack him but can still cause harm to him. Like Wonder Of U or Made In Heaven. Both of their abilities are natural and therefore, are not considered as an attack so GER couldn't reverse it
@@purplebeast8353my man, he doesn’t need to know he is being attacked. Just like when Diovolo attacked girono in the timeskip. Girono being completely unaware
