The Most BRUTAL Boys Episode 😬 | The Boys 4x8 "Season 4 Finale" | Normies Group Reaction! 

FINALE TIME!!!! Was this the grossest season? Where did it measure amongst the other seasons?

Kimiko screaming "NO" as they took Frenchie away is heart-wrenching. Just imagine her forcing the word out and having to experience losing *AGAIN* someone that she loved is really heartbreaking.

Hughie and Marvin trying to nod, laugh and smile their way out of a confrontation with the Shifter was A+

What Ryan did to Mallory is not due to Butcher, it was due to Mallory.

Wasnt Butchers fault, it 100% went wrong because of Mallory. Butcher giving Ryan the option to leave or stay solely depending on how he feels showed that he trusted Ryan enough to make the right decision as long as he was actually allowed to choose his fate for himself. Ryan cant trust somebody that doesnt trust him, thats why he was so apprehensive when he realized what Mallory was implying. Dumping years of trauma onto a kid with superpowers then telling him he HAS to kill his dad in the span of 2 minutes would obviously evoke an emotional reaction. Ryan is a kid who has honestly been through alot, so it was obvious to Butcher that the best way to engage with Ryan was by showing mutual trust and forming a real bond through common interests. Butcher was actually being a real father in these moments despite the added motives. He was trying to guide Ryan slowly into forming his own opinion based on what he knows is right or wrong, thats why he was so proud when Ryan spoke up on the live broadcast with the puppets. He knew the lessons him and Becca instilled in Ryan were sinking in and he was realizing the reality of the situation. Trying to tell him you're going to gas him and lock him in a cage until he can kill his dad would obviously make him feel scared, betrayed, panicked, etc. Mallory really just ruined The Boys greatest potential asset smh.

I like how almost none of yall reacted to Kimiko finally speaking LOL.

I'm confused on how anyone would consider the ryan situation butcher's fault, mallory escalated the whole thing

Starlight blasting off like that was pretty badass

Fun Fact: Hughie and Neuman are a real-life couple.

that shot of Ashley running from the meeting room while the camera focuses on the Atrain statue is so beautiful and might be my favourite shot of the episode and one of the best in the show. The simplicity of the shot telling us that A-Train made the decision to leave (and made a great decision) and offered to bring Ashley but she denied, and she now needs to leave but can’t so she has to resort to taking V is such great storytelling. All she had to do was go with the GOAT, A-Train.

Hell of a season finale...S4 was good but mainly character development season which is good, obviously now S5 being the final season needs to be a full plot season, especially also being only 8 episodes

I don’t think enough people are making the parallel between Homelander and Sage. When she reveals she did it to “see if I could” Homelanders eerie violin theme played as she smiled, giggled and became excited about the opportunity.

Don't forget that newmen was bullet proof and even homelanders laser couldn't damage her but the man himself tear her apart so butcher got some power now 21:24

How they blaming Butcher for what happened with Ryan he was trying to take it slow and deescalate

The coolest moment highlighting Butcher with his parasitic symbiote. ''OI'' FUCKING INCREDIBLE

Looks like they’re actually going to go through with Butcher’s villain arc from the comics.. Season 5 is going to be wilddddd

The negotiating with Ryan was completely Mallory's fault tbh

See everyone’s problem with sage being the smartest person in the world is the assumption that the “smartest” person is a “good” person, because when ur the smartest things like good and bad don’t really matter all that does is can u actually apply ur smarts to real world applications. This is just a chest game between her and the rest of the world and she just took the strongest piece on the board

Aren't we forgetting someone? Marie Moreau. Neuman is dead, but Marie is very much alive.

Nah, blaming Butcher is straight up dumb, I'm sorry. Grace ruined everything by info-dumping Ryan that hard & threatened to lock him up. What did she think was gonna happen? All that was 100% her fault.

Honestly i think butcher was trying to convince ryan with love etc but mallory let her desperation get the better of her, cause he played connect 4 wanted to explain what homelander did slowy but mallory like hughie said left no mercy, also i jusf noticed this we see ashely take the v and start changing but thats it so we dont know if she has a insane power or what

"3 episodes in a row, give this man a happy ending" Cuts to S5, Hughie getting SA'ed in prison.

5:20 picture 7:54 outed 9:24 ryan 18:46 truth bomb 20:46 f it up 21:45 welcome 22:26 sage plan 26:12 post reaction discussion 33:30 create monsters 40:04 regret 49:20 v highschool

I love how they are all sitting there wondering why Butcher is suddenly evil as if the previous scene didn't make it obviously clear he gave himself up to Kessler after Mallory screw up with Ryan

Classic Normies, making the assumptions thinking its Billy's fault. Lol

Just because you don’t like Butcher doesn’t make everything his fault

the girl cosplaying starlight would have fucking nailed it if she was cosplaying neuman instead 😭

It’s wild to me how many people online were defending Annie saying she was “correct” to get mad at, and blame, Hughie for being r*p*d. And again correct for “forgiving” him by telling him to shut up and get tested. Wild wild wild. The victim blaming was astounding.

When annie arrived at the bunker i was like how'd she get there so fast

I predict that Starlight is gonna try and find A-Train, also Sam and Cate’s aura is crazy , Sam really no diffed kimiko and restrained her like a toddler

"Billy you did this" When a minute earlier he was telling her to wait💀

Next Season, we’re gonna have to look to A-train, Butcher, and Starlight Wild Cards: Ashley, Ryan and Gen V characters

I don’t understand why people don’t get that mallariy and butcher were under a time constraint after the assaination attempt.

@Thenormies idk how you guys came to the conclusion that Butcher messed things up with Ryan. His approach worked until Mallory fucked it up. You guys have to be sane.😂

The original title for this episode was 'Assassination Run', by the way.

Yeah one of the worst things about this season is how Hughie was treated. Dude got r*ped multiple times and it's all for laughs. Not treating it with any seriousness was such a dumb writing decision. The writing for Hughie this season was just horrible all around.

The one good thing I can point out of this episode is that is that at least A train is still alive when everyone keep saying he gonna die this season

This finale was peak for the boys,homelander finally snapped and is calling the shots,shapeshifter is dead,ASHLEY TOOK COMPOUND V,noir and the deep duo,ryan killing grace,evil butcher finally in control AND KILLED NEUMAN,sister sage is back,sam and katie jump kimiko then SHE FINALLY TALKED and frenchie GETS KIDNAPPED,love sauasage whacking mm with his you know what,Cindy the bald psychic/telekinesis girl from season 1is back,That part where starlight activates her powers and flys off into the sky near the end was sooo badass,THEN SOILDER BOY AT THE END,This was perfect writing what a way to end a season,I knew A-train would survive but noone believed me,WHAT A SEASON FINALE STRAIGHT 🔥🔥FR 😂😂👏🏾.

They definitely set up a dark vibe for the final season with that Nirvana song

Butcher stood on business no Deals 😂

Who else is on board with Butcher’s plans?

This episode is prime reactions from Spidey, I reacted the same as him throughout the episode. "She hung her like a coat" and he was just laughing all episode

Them instantly blaming Billy proves how inept they are seeing whats literally right in front of them. "Normies" couldn't be more spot on to describe this couch full of simple minded people.

Whoawhoawhoa. Billy didn't ruin things with Ryan, Mallory did by escalating too fast. The literal only thing they could do is appeal to Ryan in the first place so they had to talk eventually. They were also on a time limit.

So the kid murders someone and yall blame the person who got killed. He has killed two ppl and you just ignore it

After this I'm really starting to think either the writers hate Hughie or really hate Jack Quaid. Not only does he get sexually assaulted once and it's played for laughs but then he's basically raped/sexually assaulted 20 times, which is also kind of played as a joke, and the show kinda blames him for it.

20:00 what?? Y'all are fucking joking right? Hilarity 😂 Butcher tried easing him into it

How was Neuman the only hope we had left? Are you delusional? I honestly don’t think you guys have been paying attention. She was a villain. She was not going to help or be on our side, she just had no way out and wanted a deal that would benefit her, not us. Also, Butcher is the only one that actually cares about Ryan. How can you watch this episode and see anything else? Really strange 😂 Everything Butcher has done in this season was necessary and made full sense. They have the virus because of Butcher, meaning they now have the only way to take him out. There is a bit of good inside of Ryan, because of Butcher. Neuman was a high level threat that killed multiple innocent people. All it would take is Homelander to kidnap her daughter for her to be his weapon again. She had to be taken out. No deals. Atleast he didn’t kill her kid. Sometimes I honestly wonder if you guys can follow a simple story ffs.

Need a public apology for the butcher blaming

This being blamed on Butcher is insane to me, he was handling that situation perfectly. The only thing I blame Butcher for is not seeing how Mallory could’ve fucked that up.

HOW WAS THIS BUTCHERS FAULT?????!!!!!????

I’m surprised and confused that y’all were so quick to blame Butcher. He was actually handling the situation wonderfully, Grace got desperate and escalated it

Yall are blaming Grace’s fuck up on Butcher? Insane

A couch of five people and they all share a single braincell that isnt even there lmao 😂😂 dam Normies blaming the wrong person

Grace shouldn't have dumped all that on Ryan, she didnt listen to Butcher and just riled ryan up. This is Grace's fault.

I like how in every single reaction to this episode everyone completely overlooks kamikos ability to talk lol

I love and hate this season for a lot of reasons, but Kimiko finally speaking will forever break my heart

Wonder if Sage is actually working with Maev. Looked like her notepad had her sticker on it.

Poor Hughie. The dude has been sexually abused and raped but then gets blamed for it.

Is Navi wearing the exact same starlight outfit that Rana wore to the season 3 finale?

The fact that starlight isn’t more considerate of the fact that he got raped is fucking pissing me off

Hopefully Starlight finds A-Train and Maeve to form a team to save The Boys.

Lmao that zoom in to Suraj tummy noise was a good chuckle 😂

I was shocked to see butcher's powers and Kimiko is talking.

Nice cosplay, but is that the real Navilight or the shifter?

This wasn’t butchers fault at all. Butcher was coming at this from a place of kindness. Now he’s trying to clean up everyone’s messes. Hughie’s, Mallory’s, Annie’s , and everyone’s at this point

how was butcher to blame? he was being very empathetic with ryan, mallory brought about her own death, she made ryan feel like a weapon when she started spouting about the "training to kill your father" stuff

You all saying Billy did that but that was on Mallory. Butcher was trying to ease hime into it and tell it to him in a better way.

Butcher was not at fault here Mallory screwed it up he was easing into telling Ryan the truth Mallory just needed to shut up and let the kid think Butcher would've let the kid go Mallory messed up Butcher's only good choice so he was forced to make a Bargain with the Supe Cancer aka Negan to take out Homelander instead of Ryan Butcher was very against the idea he wouldn't force the kid to do it because of his promise to his wife I'm seeing a similarity from the comic on what Butcher is gonna do at the end of the series but we never know because its different from comic in general

LET'S GO A-TRAIN

Butcher tried his best to fight against his worse self. He did say he wanted him to go with Grace to be protected and thas what his mom wanted, but when Ryan said he wanted to go back to the tower Butcher literally said if you feel safest with Homelander thas where i want you to go... and Ryan stayed to play the game with Mallory looking at Butcher like wyd... and then the whole time she was talking he was saying chill and as Ryan was saying get out of my way Butcher was yelling in his weak voice "Grace!!" She thought what she wanted was more important than what Ryan wanted, i have loved Ryan's character this season. Being his own man, saying how he feels and calling out all the hypocritical bs and lame sh&t he sees... She literally threatened to keep him hostage and he can see thru the wall, she thought she was sneaking her hand to the button??!! Time is literally slowed down in xray for Ryan... when he said he'll be back she should had let him go. It was working. But at this point Butcher knows he's gonna die and he cant trust Ryan to not be Homelander 2.0 in the time he has left to do something about it so... burn it all... the writing is just elite, the shock value... the acting was great this episode. One of the best Boys episodes

Butcher was saying NO he did not want Grace to drop all those truth bombs on Ryan!!!

I love how basically everyone that watches this show didn’t realize Kimiko was speaking until her 3rd scream because of all the crazy shit going on

why tf u guys hating and blaming butcher ? that was perfect

30:35 I thought Hughie was saying “less than 20” as a joking way of saying multiple times but I didn’t keep count.

Not them talking over Kimiko talking for the first time, and totally not billys fault with Ryan, he was handling it slowly but surely and grace fucked it up

Bro, the Shifter had Annie's BRAIN 🧠. She could read minds, could probably read Hughie's mind! Said stuff only they knew. You can't blame him much for that!

Y’all are welcome to y’all opinion but I’m sorry, IN NO WAY DID BUTCHER INVOLVE HIMSELF INTO REASON OF RYAN CRASHING OUT😭 butcher was the voice of reason advocating for Ryan to have that choice of what he sees as right and what’s best for him, where Grace’s trauma from the supe shit that it enabled her to be forceful and dump so many bombs on literally everything in one sitting. Not saying she didn’t have a right under the circumstances but also knowing the connection she made with Ryan as much as Butcher, she would sympathize and be patient with him😭

"butcher you did this" Oh shut up, no he didn't

21:06 "He's not Butcher anymore.......he's NEGAN."

Okay i need a press conference from the normies present on the couch today , in which they need to address the issue and apologize to butcher . Mallory was the one to be blamed he was easing him into yhe situation but mallory rushed the kid and stopped him from leaving.😅

And now, personality wise: THATS COMIC BOOK BUTCHER

28:49 but Annie knew that the shifter bragged about it when they talked

Mallory f'd up more than billy. she was pressing to hard

I think phase two that Sage was talking about is Butcher. She'd already corrupted Homelander (I know he was already corrupted, but she made sure to destroy the last sane braincell in his mind) now it's Butcher's turn, she's going to make them fight each other and create the biggest war between Superheroes, just like in the comics. Imagine Butcher with his new found abilities, Homelander, Soldier Boy and the rest of the superheroes fighting each other, each one of them fighting for personal gains and not for the people. it'll be Diabolical.

Remembers normies, Mal was keeping him safe and normal, then she starts hating butcher because he let's homelander take him from her care- which then brings the weapon plan in full swing

mf how is that butchers fault?

Look at these people. Being upset over a person's death who has killed hundreds of innocents. Butcher always wanted to kill her from the get go. And so did Hughie after finding her nature. Just because she a good mother and protective one she needs to be forgiven? This is what the show does best. Makes people question their allegiance again and again.

Genuinely how is that Billy’s fault? He wasn’t forcing Ryan to choose. He told him if he wanted to choose to be with Homelander that he wouldn’t stop him. Am I missing something? Grace is the one who was pressing Ryan and forcing him to chose a path

The fuck are the guys blaming Billy for? He's not the one rushing a bunch of information to Ryan all at once.

How was any of that butchers fault?. he was handling the situation in a very calm manner and even gave Ryan where he could go back to Homelander or stay with him. Grace was the one dumping heavy information on him and making him feel like a caged lab subject. So what happened to Grace is Grace’s fault not butchers at all.

It’s straight up Grace fault or at least 90% her fault, she straight up told him 4 huge bombshells to him about his father and his entire existence. That was not butcher

Normies being Normies with that blame on Butcher

That's a...weird take blaming Butcher when he was asking Mallory to stop. How can he be blamed for the actions of Grace Mallory? Did he make her push the button or withhold Ryan? How is it that he's guilty by association? Or is it just because it's Butcher?

They did Show a quick scene of butcher looking into the rearview mirror, and we can see Jeffery dean character in the reflection. Showing he took over.

It WASN'T BILLY'S FAULT. Y'all are delulu

Jack Quaid really channeling his Superman for that last speech🦸‍♂️

Did anyone catch the subtle Avengers assemble music when the camera panned over to Soldier Boy?

Sometimes I wonder wtf is wrong with yall...like,common sense shit goes completely over your head. Clearly, bringing Ryan in and using him as a weapon was Mallorys idea..Butcher was always against it and he reluctantly went with it because Mallory was footing his hospital bill. He turned to the dark side when Ryan killed Mallory and walked away with no remorse. This flipped his mind that Ryan was one of the unrepentant superheroes and they were all the same and they should all die ....I mean, this was obvious. The fact that yall don't understand this is simply mind-boggling

I agree with most of these comments how are yall blaming Butcher for ryan killing mallory when it was literally her fault for throwing all that on him at once & then ask for him to kill his dad. Butcher tried to deescalate the situation because he knew ryan would eventually come around. She might as well hav thrown herself into that wall instead